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Quote from: "RW"Why do I have to cruely farm an animal to be ethical in killing it for food?  Do you know how fucked up that sounds?  "Let's take an animal out of it's natural environment, raise it in some shit hole, feed it stuff it doesn't normally eat, fill it full of antibiotics, then drive a spike through it's head.  It's the humane way!!!"  That's really messed up Oberon.



I think everyone should hunt for their meat then maybe people wouldn't be so overweight with over eating meat induced health issues.

"Cruelly"?



Have you evidence that our livestock are treated cruelly? Farmers are fully cognisant that producing substandard animals through poor management costs them big, when nobody buys their substandard meat.



And where is this "shithole" you speak of? Running cattle in a foodless desert isn't smart thinking.



Meanwhile, hunters kill wild animals humanely. First shot. Every time.



 :001_rolleyes:

Quote from: "Yeah Right"it seems to me the bolt and instant death is less cruel than throat cut and bleeding out.  



Either way though, throw the Muslims out and let them do whatever they want back in their own shithole countries.

Quote from: "GORDY GAMBINO"Wish I had some fucking drugs

Quote from: "SCOUSE"What are your views on this? Should they be banned? Or is it more important to avoid the potential shit storm it would cause?



The only reason I'm asking is because I'm seeing more and more people calling for Halal to be outlawed, even by people who are in the center ground on political issues...



Naturally if it was upto me I'd ban them both in a heartbeat.

Quote from: "Wulf"All commercial slaughter of animals is cruel. Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store and never see what the animal goes through, it doesn't make their lives any less traumatic.



Slicing an animals throat as in Halal or Kosher slaughter is nothing different than what farmers have been doing for centuries. Now here comes 21st century man with his fake high ideals and his faux concern for the welfare of Halal butchered animals while he consumes billions of pounds of penned up poorly treated livestock each year.

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Quote from: "Wulf"

Quote from: "SCOUSE"

Quote from: "Wulf"

Quote from: "SCOUSE"

Quote from: "Wulf"All commercial slaughter of animals is cruel. Just because you buy your meat from a grocery store and never see what the animal goes through, it doesn't make their lives any less traumatic.



Slicing an animals throat as in Halal or Kosher slaughter is nothing different than what farmers have been doing for centuries. Now here comes 21st century man with his fake high ideals and his faux concern for the welfare of Halal butchered animals while he consumes billions of pounds of penned up poorly treated livestock each year.



We all know what this is. Stop fucking around and call it what it is. Forbidding Halal practices is just one more little micro-aggression toward Muslims in the west because you all haven't got the stones to get rid of the problem proper.

They don't stun the animal prior to Halal or Kosher slaughter, because they believe the meat tastes better that way, so naturally the animal is terrified during the ordeal and feels excruciating pain.



I suggest you watch some Halal slaughter videos, if you've got the stomach for it, to get an idea of the cruelness and barbarity...

The "stomach for it"????



If slaughtering livestock offends your delicate sensibilities then how are you going to kill all the Jew's?



Have you ever killed anything, Sonny?



The potted plant in your mums loo that turned brown after your last nasty shit doesn't count.

I thought perhaps a reasonably civilised convo could be on the cards here, but clearly not, as the BIG BAD WULF persona has kicked in again.   :001_rolleyes:



Would sticking to the subject of the thread be too much to ask?

No problem, I was just asking a question.



But since we are on this subject, why don't you address my assertion that it's not the Halal or Kosher practice of slaughtering livestock that is at issue here. Banning these religious practices are actually just one more way to harass Muslim's and Jew's.



Don't give me this crap that cutting and animals throat is so abhorrent to the big bad wannabe Jew killer.

Actually I don't advocate killing Jews, I support the idea  that they aren't allowed to monopolise western mainstream media, banks and governments.... but thats another topic.



Sure I would prefer it if Jews and muslims would stay in the middle east, along with their fucked up stone age customs and traditions, but this halal and kosher issue affects us all, because we are often fed the meat without realising.