Sweden resisted a lockdown, and its capital Stockholm is expected to reach ‘herd immunity’ in weeks

Anonymous · May 03, 2020, 07:29:14 PM

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~~Quote from: "Gaon"~~Perhaps, I am overstepping my bounds, but it seems the reason cc, Herman and kiebers are not against lockdowns as a solution to the coronavirus is because they can afford to isolate.

And then there is Mel who just wants to be a bum. TVG is a healthy younger guy who is convinced he will die if he catches the coronavirus.

The chances of TVG getting really sick if he caught the coronavirus is quite low let alone dying from it. We could be a year or more away from a vaccine. We can slow, but we can't stop people from catching the virus, and why would we want to stop young healthy people from catching it. Without a vaccine that's how we build immunity. I know if I caught the virus, I will survive, and I'll be better off because of it. Who knows, maybe TVG has caught the virus and is asymptomatic. The guy is worrying himself needlessly.

Anonymous · May 03, 2020, 08:59:35 PM

~~Quote from: "Shen Li"~~
~~Quote from: "iron horse jockey"~~
~~Quote from: "Gaon"~~Perhaps, I am overstepping my bounds, but it seems the reason cc, Herman and kiebers are not against lockdowns as a solution to the coronavirus is because they can afford to isolate.

And then there is Mel who just wants to be a bum. TVG is a healthy younger guy who is convinced he will die if he catches the coronavirus.

The chances of TVG getting really sick if he caught the coronavirus is quite low let alone dying from it. We could be a year or more away from a vaccine. We can slow, but we can't stop people from catching the virus, and why would we want to stop young healthy people from catching it. Without a vaccine that's how we build immunity. I know if I caught the virus, I will survive, and I'll be better off because of it. Who knows, maybe TVG has caught the virus and is asymptomatic. The guy is worrying himself needlessly.

I talk almost everyday with somebody that caught the virus and is now almost completely recovered..

This person is older than TVG too..

I hope TVG doesn't catch the virus, but if he does I'm sure he'll make a full recovery if it make him sick.

Anonymous · May 03, 2020, 10:37:08 PM

~~Quote from: "Fashionista"~~
~~Quote from: "Shen Li"~~
~~Quote from: "iron horse jockey"~~
~~Quote from: "Gaon"~~Perhaps, I am overstepping my bounds, but it seems the reason cc, Herman and kiebers are not against lockdowns as a solution to the coronavirus is because they can afford to isolate.

And then there is Mel who just wants to be a bum. TVG is a healthy younger guy who is convinced he will die if he catches the coronavirus.

The chances of TVG getting really sick if he caught the coronavirus is quite low let alone dying from it. We could be a year or more away from a vaccine. We can slow, but we can't stop people from catching the virus, and why would we want to stop young healthy people from catching it. Without a vaccine that's how we build immunity. I know if I caught the virus, I will survive, and I'll be better off because of it. Who knows, maybe TVG has caught the virus and is asymptomatic. The guy is worrying himself needlessly.

I talk almost everyday with somebody that caught the virus and is now almost completely recovered..

This person is older than TVG too..

I hope TVG doesn't catch the virus, but if he does I'm sure he'll make a full recovery if it make him sick.

Maybe old TVG is asthmatic. But, if he aint, he shouldn't panic.

cc · May 04, 2020, 12:04:22 AM

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Anonymous · May 04, 2020, 12:07:11 AM

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Anonymous · May 04, 2020, 01:11:10 PM

~~Quote from: "Shen Li"~~
~~Quote from: "iron horse jockey"~~
~~Quote from: "Gaon"~~Perhaps, I am overstepping my bounds, but it seems the reason cc, Herman and kiebers are not against lockdowns as a solution to the coronavirus is because they can afford to isolate.

And then there is Mel who just wants to be a bum. TVG is a healthy younger guy who is convinced he will die if he catches the coronavirus.

The chances of TVG getting really sick if he caught the coronavirus is quite low let alone dying from it. We could be a year or more away from a vaccine. We can slow, but we can't stop people from catching the virus, and why would we want to stop young healthy people from catching it. Without a vaccine that's how we build immunity. I know if I caught the virus, I will survive, and I'll be better off because of it. Who knows, maybe TVG has caught the virus and is asymptomatic. The guy is worrying himself needlessly.

I read an article by a doctor from the United Kingdom who said that we need young, healthy people catching the coronavirus. He said that until there's a vaccine, herd immunity is the only real solution.

kiebers · May 04, 2020, 01:43:35 PM

~~Quote from: "Gaon"~~Perhaps, I am overstepping my bounds, but it seems the reason cc, Herman and kiebers are not against lockdowns as a solution to the coronavirus is because they can afford to isolate.

Don't think I have said that. I have said that's it's business as usual for the wife and I with no change other than masks when necessary. I'm retired and she is an essential worker. I'm not necessarily for lockdowns across the board but I do believe they may be necessary in some cities. I am so ready for it to be over with which is why I posted about Texas going back to work.

And your not overstepping any bounds as far as I'm concerned.

cc · May 04, 2020, 03:49:10 PM

Maybe he didn't see this post I made here

~~Quote from: "cc"~~ https://twitter.com/MaybeAmes/status/1256422097489997824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1256422097489997824&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2020%2F05%2Fmichigan-pilot-gives-special-f-u-shout-tyrannical-governor-whitmer-plane%2F">https://twitter.com/MaybeAmes/status/12 ... r-plane%2F">https://twitter.com/MaybeAmes/status/1256422097489997824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1256422097489997824&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2020%2F05%2Fmichigan-pilot-gives-special-f-u-shout-tyrannical-governor-whitmer-plane%2F

I'm fully aware how difficult things are at this time for Gaon. myself and 100s of Millions of others around the world

Last few days appear to show new cases in Sweden are decreasing .. good news if numbers are correct and that this short trend continues

A fact of life to understand also no matter what individual opinions are > many fail to know that unseen in the numbers is that many children have got it and died - and that others survived with various and permanent life-altering damages they will carry and suffer with for life .. This one is not a simple flu

Oak · May 04, 2020, 05:12:22 PM

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~~Quote from: "cc"~~Sweden is doing so well, they have today 2,500 less total cases today than yesterday

Fuck you progs playing your games with people's lives ... even Wordometer is playing games

I have followed it closely for many countries for 1 1/2 months ... They DO NOT make mistakes

Sweden Yesterday 24,520 Total Cases

Sweden Today 22,082 Total Cases

- Figure that one out!!!!

Maybe they made a mistake with either number.

You're no longer a case after you're dead. ac_smile

cc · May 04, 2020, 05:30:21 PM

~~Quote from: "seoulbro"~~
~~Quote from: "cc"~~Sweden is doing so well, they have today 2,500 less total cases today than yesterday

Fuck you progs playing your games with people's lives ... even Wordometer is playing games

I have followed it closely for many countries for 1 1/2 months ... They DO NOT make mistakes

Sweden Yesterday 24,520 Total Cases

Sweden Today 22,082 Total Cases

- Figure that one out!!!!

Maybe they made a mistake with either number.

Yes. Likely an error based on current numbers which appear to be improving

Strange as from my records Worldometer rarely screws up

Anonymous · May 04, 2020, 07:02:09 PM

~~Quote from: "Gaon"~~Perhaps, I am overstepping my bounds, but it seems the reason cc, Herman and kiebers are not against lockdowns as a solution to the coronavirus is because they can afford to isolate.

I missed this one.

I can tell you that I am semi retired and I own a working farm. I did pretty well when I was working full time and my old lady is professionally employed.

As I have said, I could isolate for a couple of years if I had to. But, my twenty nine year old son and his pregnant girlfriend cannot. My soon to be born grandchild will be paying for this lockdown. I want to open up for their sakes.

Gaon · May 04, 2020, 08:05:50 PM

Poverty and unemployment are a bigger disaster than the virus itself by any measure. Poor countries are unhealthy countries.

cc · May 04, 2020, 08:45:59 PM

First, I have no strong feelings either way. I see both arguments as valid BUT valid only based on the little we know

I'm after facts as we ALL know so little about it .. yet many are telling us what to do or not do without facts .. rather based on conjecture and assumptions

Of course, we all hope it will, but today we don't scientifically even know if immunity will last .. nor do we know if those asymptomatic are immune (that's a very important matter .. an unknown that many are basing their opinions on)

We have never been so dependent on and so in need of science acquiring accurate and reliable facts with which to use to make decisions .. It seems like forever, but science has been in 24/7 overdrive from the gitgo

Anonymous · May 04, 2020, 08:55:27 PM

~~Quote from: "Gaon"~~Poverty and unemployment are a bigger disaster than the virus itself by any measure. Poor countries are unhealthy countries.

You are right, crashing economies are disastrous. But, there are so many unknowns about COVID-19. We have been unable to get the information our epidemiologists need to know. We are learning as we go through a global pandemic. We are erring on the side of caution even though we do know it is creating so many other problems.

Oak · May 06, 2020, 03:53:02 PM

"The head of Sweden's coronavirus response said in a new interview that the country's high death toll had "come as a surprise" and was "really something we worry a lot about."

The state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell told "The Daily Show" that the Swedish strategy had still been successful in many ways.

But he said the no-lockdown strategy was not a conscious decision in favor of more deaths — instead he said the outsize toll was not part of the plan.

About half of Sweden's deaths have been in nursing homes, which prohibit visitors. Tegnell said health officials had thought it would be easier to keep the disease away from them.

The man leading Sweden's coronavirus response says the country's elevated death toll "really came as a surprise to us."

Dr. Anders Tegnell, Sweden's state epidemiologist, appeared on "The Daily Show with Trevor Noah" on Tuesday, when he described the country's controversial approach.

"We never really calculated with a high death toll initially, I must say," he said.

"We calculated on more people being sick, but the death toll really came as a surprise to us."

As of Tuesday, Sweden reported more than 2,700 COVID-19 deaths and more than 23,000 infections. That death toll is far higher than its Nordic neighbors' and many other countries that locked down."

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