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Anonymous

#75
December 16, 2021, 08:27:11 PM
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=431129 time=1639704202 user_id=1560
Here, the minimum wage is set by the Federal Wage Commission. It is an independent tribunal. The government makes submissions in the same manner as employees and employers, and is bound by the Commission's ruling.



I don't understand the desire to keep the minimum wage low. How does that help anyone?

I think there is a federal minimum wage, but it's only applicable to federal civil service jobs..



When there's a provincial minimum wage increase it seldom ever translates into more more money on people's paycheques.

Bricktop

#76
December 16, 2021, 09:21:15 PM
Weird.



Obviously a different system than ours.

Odinson

#77
December 16, 2021, 10:32:00 PM
Who pays taxes from tips.



You wish to be a citizen of the year or something?

Bricktop

#78
December 16, 2021, 11:05:41 PM
Nobody.



It's a rort.

Frood

#79
December 16, 2021, 11:09:05 PM
Only a rort if one views it through socialist glasses.
Blahhhhhh...

Bricktop

#80
December 17, 2021, 01:40:11 AM
No, it's a rort through any viewpoint because it is clearly intended to avoid paying a fair share.



Let me know when you come up with a public funding model that doesn't require direct taxation.

Frood

#81
December 17, 2021, 03:15:36 AM
Fair share?



 ac_toofunny
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

#82
December 17, 2021, 05:23:01 AM
Quote from: Odinson post_id=431154 time=1639711920 user_id=136
Who pays taxes from tips.



You wish to be a citizen of the year or something?

I reported it, but most hospitality workers don't.

Bricktop

#83
December 17, 2021, 05:05:56 PM
Then I cannot see how you can support and defend institutionalised tax evasion?



Or a minimum salary that ensures ALL workers get a living wage, particularly so at the lower end of the salary spectrum.



It should be highlighted that the more people are paid the more they spend, so ensuring a solid wage for all benefits everyone.

Anonymous

#84
December 18, 2021, 03:21:14 AM
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=431227 time=1639778756 user_id=1560
It should be highlighted that the more people are paid the more they spend, so ensuring a solid wage for all benefits everyone.

Then why do provincial governments lower wages by hiking the minimum wage and destroying the culture of tipping, Oh ya, they want to earn more money so they can spend more money.

Bricktop

#85
December 18, 2021, 04:53:16 AM
Because as I stated earlier, gratuity based remuneration is tax avoidance.



They don't pay tax, so you subsidies them when you pay yours.



Then you tip them for bringing a plate to your table.

Frood

#86
December 18, 2021, 07:36:59 AM
Yet tax is theft...



That sentiment more or less boils down to (in peace times).... "not fair... I'm on the hook but others may not be!"



In war time, "if we have to surrender our young for the machine, everybody must!".



And when a society or economic system is imploding, "why is that fair that my neighbours seem well fed and not suffering while my own and me can barely scrape together basic nutrition?"



The reason is socialism/communism and despite you purporting about being for fair, equitable, and liberty minded ideals, you spent your fiat currencies on shit for so long, you didn't even have the good sense to back up your lifestyle in diversified assets, monetary and physical.



Australia.... all of Australia is a shithole to your way of past thinking... and it's actually a really modern fail in the grand scheme of history.



One day, what little order we have will dissolve. It may be in your lifetime but more likely in mine.



Shit will go sideways like no other Aussie has seen before, and your sentiments now in 2021 and before, will be regaled to the dustbin of naivety..... kind of like the repurposed Eureka Stockade narrative.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

#87
December 18, 2021, 01:10:17 PM
Quote from: Herman post_id=431249 time=1639815674 user_id=1689
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=431227 time=1639778756 user_id=1560
It should be highlighted that the more people are paid the more they spend, so ensuring a solid wage for all benefits everyone.

Then why do provincial governments lower wages by hiking the minimum wage and destroying the culture of tipping, Oh ya, they want to earn more money so they can spend more money.

lol, you turned that one on Bricktop.

 :laugh:

Anonymous

#88
December 18, 2021, 01:12:14 PM
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=431258 time=1639821196 user_id=1560
Because as I stated earlier, gratuity based remuneration is tax avoidance.



They don't pay tax, so you subsidies them when you pay yours.



Then you tip them for bringing a plate to your table.

But, left wing provincial governments that do that aren't being honest..



They say they want to give people a raise.

 :001_rolleyes:

Zetsu

#89
December 18, 2021, 02:42:40 PM
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=431117 time=1639703076 user_id=1560
Quote from: Zetsu post_id=431114 time=1639702675 user_id=61
The problem is people that wants to raise minimum wage are the ones that never provided jobs for others with their own money.  


This is indeed true in Australia, where trade unions wield disproportionate influence on all aspects of the economy and government.


Since it's their idea to raise minimum wage, it would be nice if they could at least set an example for others to find out if their idea works or not.
Permanently off his rocker
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