Quote from: Dove post_id=493115 time=1675096553 user_id=3266
I think a lot of times people talk past eachother on this.



 The arguement that the country was founded on the principles of Christianity isnt the same as saying everyone in the country was walking the Christian walk. Or even that they had belief in the God of the bible. You can have human rights and liberty whether you believe in the God of the bible or not.



 And it's the principles of that world view that allow for that.



 It's a problem if we decide that our rights are no longer inalienable and granted to us by a power well beyond ourselves. Our Creator.  Because if we take the position that our rights are decided by humans....in the form of government....that means our rights are negotiable.



 This premise isnt asserting that everyone has to believe in the God of the bible. Its saying that humans didnt grant certain rights and thusly humans cannot remove those rights.  And philosophy matters.



 Everytime this is moved away from we end up with shit like Dred Scott chattel slavery and today the abolition of biological sex in favor of this disgusting and dangerous gender cult. And years of brutal, cruel slaughtering of our most vulnerable members of humanity (humans in utero).



 Everyone believes in something and everyone has a world view.  And we are going to act according to that view. Right now we have a godless and cruel government owned mostly by corporations that views God as archaic and unnecessary and has decided humans are God. And our basic rights are negotiable.



 I think well beyond homosexuals, its authoritarianism and marxism that are the real problem and virus impacting peoples minds. Its not that people are gay and we leave them alone. It's that things like race and homosexuality have divisive powers that can be exploited to the benefit of the elites.  I've had this argument with Lokmar. I understand where he is coming from. I just insist this problem is much deeper and larger than gayness.

Quote from: Lokmar post_id=493127 time=1675101181 user_id=3351

Quote from: Dove post_id=493115 time=1675096553 user_id=3266
I think a lot of times people talk past eachother on this.



 The arguement that the country was founded on the principles of Christianity isnt the same as saying everyone in the country was walking the Christian walk. Or even that they had belief in the God of the bible. You can have human rights and liberty whether you believe in the God of the bible or not.



 And it's the principles of that world view that allow for that.



 It's a problem if we decide that our rights are no longer inalienable and granted to us by a power well beyond ourselves. Our Creator.  Because if we take the position that our rights are decided by humans....in the form of government....that means our rights are negotiable.



 This premise isnt asserting that everyone has to believe in the God of the bible. Its saying that humans didnt grant certain rights and thusly humans cannot remove those rights.  And philosophy matters.



 Everytime this is moved away from we end up with shit like Dred Scott chattel slavery and today the abolition of biological sex in favor of this disgusting and dangerous gender cult. And years of brutal, cruel slaughtering of our most vulnerable members of humanity (humans in utero).



 Everyone believes in something and everyone has a world view.  And we are going to act according to that view. Right now we have a godless and cruel government owned mostly by corporations that views God as archaic and unnecessary and has decided humans are God. And our basic rights are negotiable.



 I think well beyond homosexuals, its authoritarianism and marxism that are the real problem and virus impacting peoples minds. Its not that people are gay and we leave them alone. It's that things like race and homosexuality have divisive powers that can be exploited to the benefit of the elites.  I've had this argument with Lokmar. I understand where he is coming from. I just insist this problem is much deeper and larger than gayness.

I'm an army of one and I LMFAO at how threatened people get over my positions. Seriously, I dont know ANYONE except the Ayatollah of Iran and God who share my views on homosexuals. I mean really, is there ANY so called Christian organization other than Westboro actively speaking out against kweirdos? And that one, no matter what you think of them, is ridiculed into obscurity. Hell, I dont even think they get any attention these days now that Phelps has croaked.



For years I've tried to reason with gaytheists that the concept of God Given Inalienable Rights is in their own best interests but the "REEEEEE" in them is far too strong. They still insist on ejecting the warp core of America's founding principals. Its gonna end very badly, mark my words.



I cannot and will not participate in the idea of accepting behavior because it doesnt harm me or affect me in my bedroom because thats never been the reality of that bullshit meme. I've watched over the last 45 years while acceptance of kweirdos has been forced upon everyone while I was told since the 80's that gays only want to be left alone. That just isnt the case. Jack Phillips lost another court case, this time for not baking a transition celebration cake. Kweirdos actively seek to attack decent Christians. Look faggits, just go to another of the 5 trillion OTHER cake baking businesses within a stones throw of your house! I say they should fucking die.



Meanwhile, a slew of so called freedom lovers act as if there's a fukin Spanish Inquisition going on. Speaking of, you'll hear retarded gaytheists "REEEEEEE" incessantly over the Inquisition and then take it to the next level of "REEEEEEEEEE!" when you inform them of the less than 5000 that were ACTUALLY killed during it. Fukin clowns.

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Quote from: Lokmar post_id=493127 time=1675101181 user_id=3351




I'm an army of one and I LMFAO at how threatened people get over my positions. Seriously, I dont know ANYONE except the Ayatollah of Iran and God who share my views on homosexuals. I mean really, is there ANY so called Christian organization other than Westboro actively speaking out against kweirdos? And that one, no matter what you think of them, is ridiculed into obscurity. Hell, I dont even think they get any attention these days now that Phelps has croaked.



For years I've tried to reason with gaytheists that the concept of God Given Inalienable Rights is in their own best interests but the "REEEEEE" in them is far too strong. They still insist on ejecting the warp core of America's founding principals. Its gonna end very badly, mark my words.



I cannot and will not participate in the idea of accepting behavior because it doesnt harm me or affect me in my bedroom because thats never been the reality of that bullshit meme. I've watched over the last 45 years while acceptance of kweirdos has been forced upon everyone while I was told since the 80's that gays only want to be left alone. That just isnt the case. Jack Phillips lost another court case, this time for not baking a transition celebration cake. Kweirdos actively seek to attack decent Christians. Look faggits, just go to another of the 5 trillion OTHER cake baking businesses within a stones throw of your house! I say they should fucking die.



Meanwhile, a slew of so called freedom lovers act as if there's a fukin Spanish Inquisition going on. Speaking of, you'll hear retarded gaytheists "REEEEEEE" incessantly over the Inquisition and then take it to the next level of "REEEEEEEEEE!" when you inform them of the less than 5000 that were ACTUALLY killed during it. Fukin clowns.

 Lots of Christian's go preach the gospel to homosexuals. You arent going to hear about that much because that's the way it is. If people saw how it's done they wouldnt be able to whine about how hateful Christian's are.

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 Lots of Christian's go preach the gospel to homosexuals. You arent going to hear about that much because that's the way it is. If people saw how it's done they wouldnt be able to whine about how hateful Christian's are.

Yep, and they preach to people in prison, on drugs, etc out of a desire to rescue them from their evils. Not only is that behavior misrepresented, the real desire is to persecute it until it is illegal.

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Yep, and they preach to people in prison, on drugs, etc out of a desire to rescue them from their evils. Not only is that behavior misrepresented, the real desire is to persecute it until it is illegal.

 I know. They call the cops on street preachers all the time.

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 I know. They call the cops on street preachers all the time.

Being a faithful christian is the only thing vile and grotesque to this vermin



Did you see what happened with that Russian Hockey player who refused to wear the fag jersey ?

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Quote from: Dove post_id=493147 time=1675110152 user_id=3266




 I know. They call the cops on street preachers all the time.

Being a faithful christian is the only thing vile and grotesque to this vermin



Did you see what happened with that Russian Hockey player who refused to wear the fag jersey ?

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Quote from: Dove post_id=493147 time=1675110152 user_id=3266




 I know. They call the cops on street preachers all the time.

Being a faithful christian is the only thing vile and grotesque to this vermin



Did you see what happened with that Russian Hockey player who refused to wear the fag jersey ?

Quote from: Herman post_id=493156 time=1675126460 user_id=3396

Quote from: "Biggie Smiles" post_id=493149 time=1675117341 user_id=3214




Being a faithful christian is the only thing vile and grotesque to this vermin



Did you see what happened with that Russian Hockey player who refused to wear the fag jersey ?

I read something about that. I think some woke sports commentator said he should be deported.

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Sure you are, you airclaimed my argument. It's okay, pure logic is a bastard and many will default to unsubstantiated claims in the face of it.



It's okay to be wrong you know. Admitting error is a strength and shows confidence of character. Were I a praying man, I might beseech the good lord to grant you some, only I'm not and I think that character only worth the bandwidth it's hosted on when it's earned, not given. And since you've taken your first faltering steps towards building such character by conceding your authoritarian nature, I know you've seen the door I'm holding open for you.



All that remains really is for you to walk through it. Baby steps Lokmar, baby steps.

Oh, so you accept that the Judeo-Christian Principals America was founded on are what made it great. Got it.