Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 21, 2023, 08:56:49 AMI was just on a cruise two weeks ago and there were quite a few ppl from Michigan there. 

They all seemed to hate living there according to them

I used to work with attorneys from there for workman compensation cases and they would call it the shit hole of America.

Quote from: Moonie on December 21, 2023, 09:45:41 AMI used to work with attorneys from there for workman compensation cases and they would call it the shit hole of America.

Nothing like our wonderful state.

Quote from: Moonie on December 21, 2023, 09:45:41 AMI used to work with attorneys from there for workman compensation cases and they would call it the shit hole of America.

Michigan does not make my top ten state list either. No offense Dove.

Quote from: Moonie on December 21, 2023, 09:45:41 AMI used to work with attorneys from there for workman compensation cases and they would call it the shit hole of America.

There are worse states but it definitely isn't one of the top states on my list.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 21, 2023, 08:56:49 AMI was just on a cruise two weeks ago and there were quite a few ppl from Michigan there. 

They all seemed to hate living there according to them

 They probably live in the metro area. 

 Everyone who hates living here lives in the metro area lol


 I love Michigan. We have everything here. Every season. Country. Cities. Small towns. Rural farm communities. Waterfalls. Islands. Lakes.  Everything.
 

Where is the logic of applying this insurrection provision when none of the Jan. 6 protesters has actually been convicted in court or even charged under the criminal statute that covers insurrection. Including Trump.

I have been reading since this outrageous court decision. I believe the Supreme Court strikes down the Colorado decision on procedural grounds and entirely ignores the substance of the case.

I'm referring to the political question doctrine in which judges can declare an issue as so fundamentally political that they have no business interfering in it. The court once laid out six factors in determining what qualifies as a political question.

Quote1 a textually demonstrable constitutional commitment of the issue to a coordinate political department; or
2 a lack of judicially discoverable and manageable standards for resolving it; or 3 the impossibility of deciding without an initial policy determination of a kind clearly for nonjudicial discretion; or
4 the impossibility of a court's undertaking independent resolution without expressing lack of the respect due coordinate branches of government; or [
5 an unusual need for unquestioning adherence to a political decision already made; or
6 the potentiality of embarrassment from multifarious pronouncements by various departments on one question

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This is the likeliest way 75 million+ Americans get to vote for the candidate of their choice.

Quote from: Shen Li on December 21, 2023, 03:49:40 PMWhere is the logic of applying this insurrection provision when none of the Jan. 6 protesters has actually been convicted in court or even charged under the criminal statute that covers insurrection. Including Trump.

 There is no logic. It's just "orange man bad"

 It's the establishment grasping.

Quote from: Dove on December 21, 2023, 04:43:41 PMThere is no logic. It's just "orange man bad"

 It's the establishment grasping.

I am finding myself in an awkward position. Like Oerdin, I'm not a Trump supporter. He wasn't able to accomplish much with congress in his first 2 years and he spent money like a socialist. However, denying millions and millions of Americans the right to cast a vote for the candidate of their choice is what Nicholas Maduro would do.

You should see how Chinese language media is reporting this. They are making the US out to be no better than North Korea with their political withch hunts.

The US is quickly losing credibility as as a transparent democracy on Biden's watch. Deservedly so too in my opinion.

The US is getting bad but at least it's not China....yet.

What a conundrum the vermin on the left have left themselves in

take trump off the ballot lose any shred a legitimacy you may have had

arrest trump for any of these bastardized claims you come up with and lose any shred a legitimacy you may have had

devise another way to cheat once again lose any shred a legitimacy you may have had

you can totally smell the fear oozing out of the pours of these rats as they run for higher ground on their sinking ship

scumbags

Quote from: Frood on December 21, 2023, 05:04:09 PMThe US is getting bad but at least it's not China....yet.

Canada is as bad as China now.

Quote from: Shen Li on December 21, 2023, 04:54:55 PMI am finding myself in an awkward position. Like Oerdin, I'm not a Trump supporter. He wasn't able to accomplish much with congress in his first 2 years and he spent money like a socialist. However, denying millions and millions of Americans the right to cast a vote for the candidate of their choice is what Nicholas Maduro would do.

You should see how Chinese language media is reporting this. They are making the US out to be no better than North Korea with their political withch hunts.

The US is quickly losing credibility as as a transparent democracy on Biden's watch. Deservedly so too in my opinion.

 Can't say that I disagree however....of course congress was gonna block and complicate anything Trump wanted.

 He did things I strongly oppose like the banning of bumpstocks and some overspending.

 I voted for him in 2016. 2020 and if I can ill vote for him in 2024.

 I didn't support the lockdowns either and he dropped the ball on that.

It's a beautiful vaccine

Yeah. Bullshit bro

But he's better than anyone they are running except Vivek

I'd actually prefer to see Vivek but it'll be a snow storm in hell before I ever vote for a stinking democrat for anything