Quote from: Herman on January 07, 2024, 11:15:39 PMI don't want Christianity influencing politics. No frickin way.

Too late. The country's entire existence and form of government was mainly influenced and in fact based off what most people refer to as Christianity. In fact, read Blackstone sometime. The ENTIRETY of modern Western Civilization is based squarely on the shoulders of Judeo-Christianity.

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Quote from: Lokmar on January 07, 2024, 11:37:55 PMToo late. The country's entire existence and form of government was mainly influenced and in fact based off what most people refer to as Christianity. In fact, read Blackstone sometime. The ENTIRETY of modern Western Civilization is based squarely on the shoulders of Judeo-Christianity.

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Who cares. You have Catholic priests in the US coaching criminal gangs how to break the damned law and enter the US illegally. They are enabling the fentanyl crisis in the US. They hide behind their collars and their bibles.

No special privileges for Christianity.

Quote from: Moonie on January 07, 2024, 08:15:04 PMSo you think what Israel is doing is what Jesus would do??

that is exactly what he is going to do at Armageddon.

Quote from: Herman on January 07, 2024, 11:45:17 PMWho cares. You have Catholic priests in the US coaching criminal gangs how to break the damned law and enter the US illegally. They are enabling the fentanyl crisis in the US. They hide behind their collars and their bibles.

No special privileges for Christianity.

 If priests are breaking the law then they should be dealt with in court.

who said they should get special privileges?

Quote from: Herman on January 07, 2024, 11:45:17 PMWho cares. You have Catholic priests in the US coaching criminal gangs how to break the damned law and enter the US illegally. They are enabling the fentanyl crisis in the US. They hide behind their collars and their bibles.

No special privileges for Christianity.

That has absolutely NOTHING to do with America as founded.

For the record, catlicks poope is most likely the leader of the whore that sits on 7 hills as documented in Revelation.

Again, authority from God, The Bible and Judeo-Christianity are the ENTIRE foundation of America. This is indisputable. If you'd like, I can provide quotes proving this from the DOI and founders.

Oh yea, the Declaration of Independence is America's SOLE founding document. The Constitution didnt come along until YEARS later. Its an operating manual, NOT the founding document.

Quote from: caskur on January 07, 2024, 11:55:24 PMwho said they should get special privileges?

Its deflection nonsense.

Makes as much sense as saying "Christian troons are being bad so down with Christianity!" Its a fucking absurdity.

Quote from: caskur on January 07, 2024, 11:55:24 PMthat is exactly what he is going to do at Armageddon.
 If priests are breaking the law then they should be dealt with in court.

who said they should get special privileges?

Yes..but that is his end all.  My question is.  Is this what Jesus would want now?

Maybe what you mean it's the starting of the tribulation?  Because it may possibly cause world war. I don't know. All we can do is pray, repent and dig deeper in the word for answers.

I'm also curious regarding priests breaking laws too.  It doesn't surprise me.  They are human and sin like the rest of us. I mean look at the Pope.

Quote from: caskur on January 07, 2024, 11:55:24 PMthat is exactly what he is going to do at Armageddon.
 If priests are breaking the law then they should be dealt with in court.

who said they should get special privileges?

Jim Crow Joe Biden, that is who. And I agree with ya. Those woke priests cannot be allowed to hide behind their collars. They are enabling America's fentanyl crisis.

Quote from: Lokmar on January 07, 2024, 11:35:39 PMI base all my opinions off what is written in the Bible.

God made the following promise to Abraham:

In Genesis 15 God meets Abram again promising him the land of Canaan and defining its boundaries. Now a fuller description of the land was given to Abram. Now the land stretched from the Nile River of Egypt to the Euphrates River in Mesopotamia (Genesis 15:18-21). THIS PROMISE AND LAND DEED IS ETERNAL!!!!!! It did NOT go away during the diaspora.

    On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, "To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates: the Kenite and the Kenizzite and the Kadmonite and the Hittite and the Perizzite and the Rephaim and the Amorite and the Canaanite and the Girgashite and the Jebusite." Genesis 15:18–21 (NASB)

Exodus also describes the promised land as stretching from the boundary of the Red Sea to the Euphrates River (Exodus 23:28-31).

The West Bank AND Gaza are part of that deed!

Now, If you call yourself a Christian, do you believe The Bible or do you just "wing it"?


The promise is made in The Bible that Israel will return as a nation never to be thrown down again.

When Jesus returns, He's going to do a lot of smiting. "Turn the other cheek" Jesus isnt coming back according to the Bible. In fact, everything going on now will eventually lead to mankind nearly destroying the entire planet. Jesus returns and starts smoking people needing smoked. I suppose if the jews allow "from the river to the sea" to come to fruition, all the Palestinians would get everything they wanted and then "Christian" Palestinians would be promptly erased. This however would negate all the remaining promises God made so that is impossible.

Now to answer your question WWJD, I think all we can do here is evaluate WWJD where the second W is what WILL Jesus do! Again using the Bible as a guide, if Jesus had returned and was doing what we know He WILL do, that would be judging and smoking people in real time as He WILL do during His 1000 year reign. I can assure you, there wont be ANY muhzies so Hamas, along with anyone who wishes to be an active member, will be rotting in HELL!

If Jesus was here in real time, the Oct 7th attacks wouldnt have happened I suppose because all those scumbags would be instagibbed straight to hell. Thats WJWD.

Great Bible study thanks. Before Israel became a nation was there conflict? Did you hear of chaos and fighting?

Also there is a new covenant that your forgetting.  Jesus brought a new covenant. I'm not arguing you here about specifics of the Bible.  Some believe that the philistines are Palestinians. 

All I know is he is the ultimate one who will judge the actions of the wicked.  He is who is missing in this war.

Lokmar is my boy, but he is wrong on this one. Christianity cannot be allowed to meddle in politics like we see happening with immigration.

Quote from: Herman on January 08, 2024, 12:21:25 AMJim Crow Joe Biden, that is who. And I agree with ya. Those woke priests cannot be allowed to hide behind their collars. They are enabling America's fentanyl crisis.

So freaking sad and horrible.  I did not know this. Everything so corrupt.  I grew up Catholic.  I'm now non denominational because it's so corrupt. I will have to read about this. 

Quote from: Moonie on January 08, 2024, 12:36:37 AMGreat Bible study thanks. Before Israel became a nation was there conflict? Did you hear of chaos and fighting?

Also there is a new covenant that your forgetting.  Jesus brought a new covenant. I'm not arguing you here about specifics of the Bible.  Some believe that the philistines are Palestinians. 

All I know is he is the ultimate one who will judge the actions of the wicked.  He is who is missing in this war.

The New Covenant has no impact on Israel's eternal deed to the land and it has no impact on prophecy written after Jesus died affirming Israel would return to the land.

I dont know if this is relevant, but God told the Hebrews to exterminate ALL the people who lived there when He gave the land to them. They didnt and they paid. If the Palestinians are (which I dont believe) the descendants of the Philistines, I think it real dumb to play genocidal chicken again. If you evaded extermination COMMANDED by God once, it might be wise to be reeeeeal quiet!

Quote from: Lokmar on January 08, 2024, 12:44:21 AMThe New Covenant has no impact on Israel's eternal deed to the land and it has no impact on prophecy written after Jesus died affirming Israel would return to the land.

I dont know if this is relevant, but God told the Hebrews to exterminate ALL the people who lived there when He gave the land to them. They didnt and they paid. If the Palestinians are (which I dont believe) the descendants of the Philistines, I think it real dumb to play genocidal chicken again. If you evaded extermination COMMANDED by God once, it might be wise to be reeeeeal quiet!

You call yourself Christian.  Look I have heard your rants before how all Palestinians need to be exterminated bla bla bla. Satan knows the Bible and can quote it just like you.

Quote from: Herman on January 08, 2024, 12:38:11 AMLokmar is my boy, but he is wrong on this one. Christianity cannot be allowed to meddle in politics like we see happening with immigration.

Thats NOT whats happening with immigration. Ungodly assholes are allowing illegals to flood in. Now sure, some religious assholes are allowing mexcrements to reside withing their walls, BUT THAT IS CONDEMNED BY THE BIBLE! The Christian Bible SPECIFICALLY demands following the law of the land and The Bible does not state that we should hand over all our belongings to invaders. Christianity also SPECIFICALLY commands ALL faggits be tossed from the church! JESUS HIMSELF SAID THIS!

Again, Christianity has ALWAYS "meddled" in politics! In fact, the founders told us it should be a litmus test for public service! Now you might not agree with it, but here it is, from the first Chief Justice of the SCOTUS no less!

John Jay-America's first Supreme Court Chief Justice and Co-Author of the Federalist Papers

October 12, 1816

"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.

Quote from: Moonie on January 08, 2024, 12:48:25 AMYou call yourself Christian.  Look I have heard your rants before how all Palestinians need to be exterminated bla bla bla. Satan knows the Bible and can quote it just like you.

Fine, I'm satan. Still, The Bible says what it says. End of.

The biggest arguments I always seem to have is with people attributing to me that which is easily traced back to either Americas founders or God Himself.