Quote from: Garraty_47 on April 22, 2024, 07:33:17 AMI'm sure they would love to do exactly that.
The democrats have proven with their primaries that they don't actually care about "democracy".

As for Kennedy, he's only the excuse they're queuing up to explain Biden's losses in those states. They're gonna give RFKJr the Jill Stein treatment (concoct ties to Russia/Putin, etc.) and unfortunately it'll probably work for a lot of people because Kennedy might gather even more votes than Stein did in 2016 thus making the "spoiler" accusation more believable.

In corporate media a candidate never loses because they suck or deserved to lose. It's always the dum-dum voters' fault, or "foreign interference", or a "spoiler", or simply "bad/ineffective messaging". Anything and everything to avoid admitting the candidate's policies and actions were unacceptable.

The one thing the corporate media will never ever do is suggest people ought to start questioning the systems themselves that elevate these yahoos and try to sell them to voters as viable options. That conversation, which leads rapidly to abandoning the entire wholly corrupt duopoly, is a non-starter for them.

the picture as to why they are importing so many new potential voters from third world shit holes becoming any clearer yet? They need people who will vote like drones 'blue no matter who' in order to survive.

plan A - get voting laws changed to ID - less and citizen less systems

if that doesn't work

plan b - wait out the 14 to 18 years it will take for all of the children born to these illegal migrants to come of voting age.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 22, 2024, 09:55:59 AMthe picture as to why they are importing so many new potential voters from third world shit holes becoming any clearer yet? They need people who will vote like drones 'blue no matter who' in order to survive.

plan A - get voting laws changed to ID - less and citizen less systems

if that doesn't work

plan b - wait out the 14 to 18 years it will take for all of the children born to these illegal migrants to come of voting age.

I don't personally believe it has anything to do with voting. That demographic is steadily drifting away from democrats and democrats don't really care about voters anyway. They'll be far more likely to rely on their own brand of voter *suppression* along with refined methods of fearmongering and other propaganda.

Immigration is about depressing wages and making sure all power in the workplace remains in the hands of owners/managers/investors. They want a never-ending supply of desperate and obsequious workers who won't dare ask questions or rock boats even while living in poverty.

It's the ages-old game of setting the peasants against each other so they don't form a mob and storm the castle.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on April 22, 2024, 12:35:15 PMI don't personally believe it has anything to do with voting. That demographic is steadily drifting away from democrats and democrats don't really care about voters anyway. They'll be far more likely to rely on their own brand of voter *suppression* along with refined methods of fearmongering and other propaganda.

Immigration is about depressing wages and making sure all power in the workplace remains in the hands of owners/managers/investors. They want a never-ending supply of desperate and obsequious workers who won't dare ask questions or rock boats even while living in poverty.

It's the ages-old game of setting the peasants against each other so they don't form a mob and storm the castle.

I don't think it's about cheap labor. 10 years ago yeah, but not with the advances they are making in AI.

Just look at California where they are manufacturing conditions ripe for the adoption of an AI/Robotics POC to swoop in and save the day as they will undoubtedly be on the brink of a fast food collapse in the state. And guess how much free marketing they will recieve when they do this? it's a win win for the corporate elite and their democrat puppets who dutifully do their bidding.

Why you think it was only a minimum wage hike for fast food workers? As if workers in other industries don't matter? Truth is, they don't cause this was never about making people earn a living wage. it's about creating the circumstances that will literally BEG for technology to fill the void and what better industry to POC than the fast food industry?

Quote from: Garraty_47 on April 22, 2024, 12:35:15 PMI don't personally believe it has anything to do with voting. That demographic is steadily drifting away from democrats and democrats don't really care about voters anyway. They'll be far more likely to rely on their own brand of voter *suppression* along with refined methods of fearmongering and other propaganda.

Immigration is about depressing wages and making sure all power in the workplace remains in the hands of owners/managers/investors. They want a never-ending supply of desperate and obsequious workers who won't dare ask questions or rock boats even while living in poverty.

It's the ages-old game of setting the peasants against each other so they don't form a mob and storm the castle.

I am an old style socialist. I remember when my former party, the NDP, opposed big annual immigration levels. Now that corporations are woke as fuck and control progressive parties, socialist parties have sold out working class voters.

It's not about the cheap labor

To climb up on a roof or clean a toilet. Yeah

But AI is going to wipe out much of the unskilled and a large contingent of the medium skilled workforce

Watch

AI amd cloud. The start of a consolidation of power

Think of the power Bill Gates wields in an environment where 80% of the countries technology assets/data is in his data centers

It's happening people

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 22, 2024, 12:42:10 PMI don't think it's about cheap labor. 10 years ago yeah, but not with the advances they are making in AI.

What jobs are AI actually threatening now?

And I'm not talking about automation like in factories and such.
That's been happening for a while and shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
You don't need an AI to perform a repetitive task, even a fairly complicated one.

You just need automation.

AI is most often mentioned as replacing writers, coders, artists, etc.
Those are white collar and/or highly skilled jobs.
But hardly the kind of work one associates with non-native language speakers or recent immigrants.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 22, 2024, 12:42:10 PMWhy you think it was only a minimum wage hike for fast food workers? As if workers in other industries don't matter?

The same reason they've ever thrown one group a few crumbs instead of tossing them to everybody.

Pandering.
Campaign rhetoric.
It's performative.

They'll pitch it as "looking out for the little guy" when all they did was sort of help a few people, maybe. It doesn't fundamentally change any fucking thing but it looks good on a bumper sticker.

Just like the Biden regime claiming it "lowered prescription costs" but not mentioning it only applies to a handful of drugs, only a few are reduced now with the rest being folded in over years, and if I recall correctly it only applied to seniors anyway.

It's all a show; it's all doing the bare minimum, if that, but then claiming to have done something historic.

It's bullshit all the way down.

Cloward Piven.

Its about eliminating the Constitution which limits government power.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on April 22, 2024, 04:54:40 PMWhat jobs are AI actually threatening now?

And I'm not talking about automation like in factories and such.
That's been happening for a while and shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
You don't need an AI to perform a repetitive task, even a fairly complicated one.

You just need automation.

The automotive companies first pushed system based manual automation. That reduced the number of employees needed due to efficiency.Robotics and WMS's carried it much further and reduced staffing levels even more. With AI, all that will be left are upper management (select group), certain programmers, and technicians to keep an eye out.

Less employees again...

Then there will be nobody... because AI will be able to handle it all.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on April 22, 2024, 07:33:17 AMAs for Kennedy, he's only the excuse they're queuing up to explain Biden's losses in those states. They're gonna give RFKJr the Jill Stein treatment (concoct ties to Russia/Putin, etc.) and unfortunately it'll probably work for a lot of people because Kennedy might gather even more votes than Stein did in 2016 thus making the "spoiler" accusation more believable.

The Dems do not believe in competition.

Without abortion, or depicting Republicans as MAGA terrorists, and perhaps millions of ballots turning up in suspicious circumstances, it may be hard for the Democrats to win.

The Democrats have lost almost all their their traditional working class base and they seem to be losing support among racial minorities, and young voters.

I could be wrong, and November could bring surprises. But, that is how it looks now.

Quote from: Brent on April 23, 2024, 01:40:54 PMWithout abortion, or depicting Republicans as MAGA terrorists, and perhaps millions of ballots turning up in suspicious circumstances, it may be hard for the Democrats to win.

The Democrats have lost almost all their their traditional working class base and they seem to be losing support among racial minorities, and young voters.

I could be wrong, and November could bring surprises. But, that is how it looks now.

I believe you're seeing things clearly.

There were already some fractures in Biden's base even before he became known as #GenocideJoe but those cracks are now big chunks that have fallen off and can't be glued back on with fearmongering bullying and bullshit.

Biden is a lame duck and the DNC have nobody to blame but themselves.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on April 23, 2024, 02:33:47 PMI believe you're seeing things clearly.

There were already some fractures in Biden's base even before he became known as #GenocideJoe but those cracks are now big chunks that have fallen off and can't be glued back on with fearmongering bullying and bullshit.

Biden is a lame duck and the DNC have nobody to blame but themselves.

Never count the Democrats out. They always find a way to win. And the end always justifies their nefarious means.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on April 23, 2024, 02:33:47 PMI believe you're seeing things clearly.

There were already some fractures in Biden's base even before he became known as #GenocideJoe but those cracks are now big chunks that have fallen off and can't be glued back on with fearmongering bullying and bullshit.

Biden is a lame duck and the DNC have nobody to blame but themselves.

Interesting thought so when Trump wins and dems have control of congress and and about take over the house (hope I'm saying this correctly)that makes Trump a sitting duck president correct?  So why can't the libs just leave him the heck alone?  He will make the economy better along with just being logical.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on April 23, 2024, 02:33:47 PMI believe you're seeing things clearly.

There were already some fractures in Biden's base even before he became known as #GenocideJoe but those cracks are now big chunks that have fallen off and can't be glued back on with fearmongering bullying and bullshit.

Biden is a lame duck and the DNC have nobody to blame but themselves.

Hence the reason they will jail or kill trump right before the election and just appoint Biden as the supreme leader due to the absence of an opposing viable candidate which can be called up on such short notice

This is already a done deal bro

Mark my words

Quote from: DKG on April 24, 2024, 07:32:50 AMNever count the Democrats out. They always find a way to win. And the end always justifies their nefarious means.

They didn't win in 2016 and once again they're running a historically unpopular candidate against Trump. Biden didn't walk away with a landslide victory in 2020 and back then he didn't have all the problems (of his own making) he does now. The only supporters Biden can count on are the hardcore 'vote blue no matter who' sycophants and they aren't going to be near enough.