Quote from: JOE on May 30, 2024, 07:25:03 PMWhile I'm no fan of Trump Bigly, I wonder why Trump is feared compared to George W Bush who came before him.

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They talk about Trump dismantling democracy in America & taking away all your rights, but I think a lot of that had already been done during the W Bush administration with the Democrats looking on in approval. Obama rolled back many rights of Americans too. Some of the things his administration did were appalling

 Well if you know what "dismantling democracy" actually means when they say it....it makes sense.

 They are panicking because Trump can start investigations into all the criminal and horrible shit that has been done. The Bidens...Fauci...Clinton's.

 Imagine the covid investigations.

Quote from: JOE on May 31, 2024, 12:55:52 AMWithout being that familiar with thos court case & being unaligned with either side, I'd have to say the verdict seemed too severe. Usu an accused is found guilty of a portion of the counts. But Trump? They threw the entire book at him. Guilty on all accounts. That does seem rather extreme and usu such verdicts are reserved for mass murderers not white collar crime.

On youtube a 1.5 hour speech of him talking to Minnesota people he outlined what he is going to do...

Apparently Biden undone a lot of things he made law. He is going to ban children being given hormone treatment for starters.

Let me find it...hang on. Watch in your own time and it is worthwhile.

It's pretty good. I like the casual way he delivers.

Quote from: Dove on May 31, 2024, 02:14:08 AMWell if you know what "dismantling democracy" actually means when they say it....it makes sense.

 They are panicking because Trump can start investigations into all the criminal and horrible shit that has been done. The Bidens...Fauci...Clinton's.

 Imagine the covid investigations.

Too much vindictiveness & retribution in your country Dove ove. One side gets in & then they nail the other side. Then the other gets in and they do it back and so on. And that Jeffrey Epstein incident- both Trump & Clinton appear to be complicit which the media hyped up. Such a witch hunt.

Yeah Fauci - if he were investigated they should do it to big pharma, the fda/cdc & Pfizer too. They all appear to have been guilty of profiteering & suppressing other vaccines/treatments which could have been useful during the pandemic.

Ie there was this free vaccine Corbavax - developed by 2 American scientists in Texas that was never approved for use in the USA but was quite effective treating covid. Pig Pharma/fda killed it which Americans were prohibited from having access to it. It was shipped off to India instead.

https://x.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1796326834012852327?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Quote from: Dove on May 31, 2024, 02:14:08 AMWell if you know what "dismantling democracy" actually means when they say it....it makes sense.

 They are panicking because Trump can start investigations into all the criminal and horrible shit that has been done. The Bidens...Fauci...Clinton's.

 Imagine the covid investigations.

Dove, there is no need to respond to Joe. If you do, don't be serious because he isn't.

He has derailed political threads at least least one hundred times with the same lame post you responded to.

He craves attention, but in my opinion, he does not deserve any.

Quote from: Oerdin on May 31, 2024, 06:59:39 AMhttps://x.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1796326834012852327?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

It is dangerous to prosecute your political opponents.

Quote from: caskur on May 31, 2024, 02:53:18 AMOn youtube a 1.5 hour speech of him talking to Minnesota people he outlined what he is going to do...

Apparently Biden undone a lot of things he made law. He is going to ban children being given hormone treatment for starters.

Let me find it...hang on. Watch in your own time and it is worthwhile.

It's pretty good. I like the casual way he delivers.

Caskur, this is how Biden should be trying to win the election. Have an electable platform that you can confidently convey to voters. Biden doesn't have a winning platform so he is trying to win by misusing the FBI and DOJ to persecute his main opponent.

Quote from: caskur on May 31, 2024, 12:11:23 AMJoe, the left are no longer the left of the old days where their main concern was for working men's rights. They have gone completely nuts and they are using us because it's about power now.

I not saying the right is better either... we have two extremists and both extremes are causing a great divide. We have to recognize it and we have to be clever about it..  I see Trump as being closer to middle ground because he isn't one of them power hungry politicians but a man who wants to work everything out... I could be wrong but I don't get that feeling.

I feel he did more right things than wrong things... what do you think?

First of all, Joe is an attention starved troll. He knows left and right no longer exist in North America.

The people who are voting for Trump would have voted Democrat in the eighties. The Democrats are the party of billionaires and woke corporations.   

Quote from: DKG on May 31, 2024, 07:36:50 AMIt is dangerous to prosecute your political opponents.

The left never thinks more than one step ahead.  They think the other side won't ever retaliate.

Quote from: Oerdin on May 31, 2024, 06:59:39 AMhttps://x.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1796326834012852327?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

He brings up a good point


democrats will always accuse others of what they are guilty of

so when you hear DeNiro Ranting "he will never leave office" he's basically blurting the quiet part they have planned out loud

Quote from: Oerdin on May 31, 2024, 08:09:00 AMThe left never thinks more than one step ahead.  They think the other side won't ever retaliate.

There is where you are wrong my friend.

They don't care if the other side retaliates because they are certain the other side will follow the rule of law when they do. So they weave their activities in such a way so that they are obfuscated entirely from any cursory  glances a judicial body might empower an """"independent""" third party of their choosing to conduct.

2 examples of what I am talking about

First up - the rampant ballot fraud which any person with an IQ above 25 can see was obviously a manufactured cheat. They'll rant and moan and highlight with glee the fact that those judges who bothered to invoke an ""investigation"" into the shenanigans via some lame ass recount is proof positive no ballot fraud was conducted.

Nevermind the fact that you had instances where 37 mailin ballots traced back to a one bedroom apartment which had been abandoned for years. the recount was sound. the math added up. the same fraudulent ballots which amounted to 5 million in total still add up to 5 million in total the second time you count them.

and second - You had the DOJ appoint a ""special"" counsel to investigate the classified documents situation with Biden. Found him technically guilty as fuck. And what ended up becoming of it? His report actually outlined that the guy was too fucking senile to stand trial or be held to account in any capacity. Too senile to face consequence for crimes they will happily throw trump under the jail for despite being just a few years younger, but NOT  senile enough for this discovery to lead to his removal from office as per the 25th amendment

This is the leading story on local news this morning.

Hubby and I both donating. A grand each


People who swore they'd never vote for Trump now say they are. I guarantee the rat libs are gonna do something on election night to stop what's coming.

Quote from: DKG on May 31, 2024, 07:39:25 AMCaskur, this is how Biden should be trying to win the election. Have an electable platform that you can confidently convey to voters. Biden doesn't have a winning platform so he is trying to win by misusing the FBI and DOJ to persecute his main opponent.

I am pretty sure that Biden wouldn't be able to tie his shoelaces now.

His geriatric condition is quite advanced. I will be surprised if he lasts another year.

 

Quote from: caskur on May 31, 2024, 09:46:24 AMI am pretty sure that Biden wouldn't be able to tie his shoelaces now.

His geriatric condition is quite advanced. I will be surprised if he lasts another year.

He doesn't need to last another year. They have their stand in replacement in long before then.

Anyone in the US needs to buckle up. This is gonna be one hell of a ride from this point forward.