Quote from: caskur on June 20, 2024, 12:08:47 AMA base vaccine is already made and safely treated other covid virus so when a morphed covid virus appears they adjust the base product to suit the new virus.

That "base" is a gene therapy platform, not a vaccine platform.

Therein lies the major difference between the mRNA jabs and a traditional vaccine.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on June 20, 2024, 01:14:31 AMThat "base" is a gene therapy platform, not a vaccine platform.

Therein lies the major difference between the mRNA jabs and a traditional vaccine.

That is why I went for Novavax at the time because it was supposedly like a traditional vaccine.

Now I am an eye witness to EVERYONE I know who safely chose the mRNA and not one had any adverse affects then or now.

Naturally in 2022 I was very weary because I was silly enough to listen to the fools here. When my husband had his first shot and told me I burst into tears. I no longer listen to their skiddish rants.

Trump knew this virus was a heavy duty one but didn't tell Americans. I think he mishandled the pandemic and it cost him the election.... that and stacking the supreme court with cons only.

They can choose to hear the  co-developer virologist as I did or stay uninformed.


 

https://rumble.com/v14qkpt-overview-video-of-mrna-vaccine-technology-fundamentals-of-mechanisms-and-ri.html

Quote from: Frood on June 20, 2024, 04:54:07 AMhttps://rumble.com/v14qkpt-overview-video-of-mrna-vaccine-technology-fundamentals-of-mechanisms-and-ri.html

Yes yes... a doctor who is 160 yrs old must be adhered to...


When you watch my videos then I will watch yours dull and boring as the are..

From our agency that collects death information to vaccines.

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The TGA closely reviews all deaths reported in the days and weeks after COVID-19 vaccination. Read more about this process in a previous report. Since the beginning of the vaccine rollout to 16 April 2023, nearly 66 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given in Australia. The TGA has identified 14 reports where the cause of death was linked to vaccination from 985 reports received and reviewed. There have been no new vaccine-related deaths identified since 2022.

The 14 deaths likely to be related to vaccination occurred in people aged 21 - 81 years old. There have been no deaths in children or adolescents determined to be linked to COVID-19 vaccination. More detail on these deaths is available in the safety report published on 15 December 2022.

If we identify a new death likely to be related to vaccination, we will publish this information promptly in a vaccine safety report, as we have for all other cases since the start of the vaccine roll-out.

Quote from: caskur on June 20, 2024, 05:32:33 AMYes yes... a doctor who is 160 yrs old must be adhered to...


When you watch my videos then I will watch yours dull and boring as the are..

Robert Malone was the developer of mRNA injections who has been deadset against their use.

Quote from: caskur on June 20, 2024, 05:52:08 AMFrom our agency that collects death information to vaccines.

Vvvv

The TGA closely reviews all deaths reported in the days and weeks after COVID-19 vaccination. Read more about this process in a previous report. Since the beginning of the vaccine rollout to 16 April 2023, nearly 66 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given in Australia. The TGA has identified 14 reports where the cause of death was linked to vaccination from 985 reports received and reviewed. There have been no new vaccine-related deaths identified since 2022.

The 14 deaths likely to be related to vaccination occurred in people aged 21 - 81 years old. There have been no deaths in children or adolescents determined to be linked to COVID-19 vaccination. More detail on these deaths is available in the safety report published on 15 December 2022.

If we identify a new death likely to be related to vaccination, we will publish this information promptly in a vaccine safety report, as we have for all other cases since the start of the vaccine roll-out.

The TGA has always been a criminal organization. Very untrustworthy.

Quote from: Frood on June 20, 2024, 06:31:09 AMRobert Malone was the developer of mRNA injections who has been deadset against their use.

Well so far they have been a success so his concern has proven unfounded.

Quote from: Frood on June 20, 2024, 06:31:09 AMRobert Malone was the developer of mRNA injections who has been deadset against their use.

Wiki has a different view.... now I know Wiki isn't a reliable source but in this instance it could be..

"Robert Wallace Malone (born October 20, 1959) is an American physician and biochemist. His early work focused on mRNA technology,[3] pharmaceuticals, and drug repurposing research. During the COVID-19 pandemic, Malone promoted misinformation about the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines."

Quote from: caskur on June 19, 2024, 10:36:21 AMMaybe it didn't work because arseholes didn't wash their hands and didn't stick to the rules. 

Maybe another way like the Swedes did put 1000 in hospital not 100...

The idea at the time was to SLOW DOWN CASES so that hospitals could cope.

Why do I have to repeat myself... why don't you get it?

Oh for God sake caskur, you are grabbing at unscientific straws here.

Lockdowns are unscientific. The vaccines cut corners and they didn't work. Masking didn't work. Carrying bottles of snaitizer didn't work.

My concern is not that you believed all the unscientific nonsense we were force-fed. What is scary is that you learned nothing and you would not question it a second time.

What?  lockdowns are unscientific?

So that would mean isolation units in hospitals are unscientific.  Are they?

We should let puppies with parvo virus just mix with other puppies, should we?

I cannot believe you wrote that post with a straight face DKG.



Wow, that is news to me

Quote from: caskur on June 20, 2024, 08:17:44 AMWhat?  lockdowns are unscientific?

So that would mean isolation units in hospitals are unscientific.  Are they?

We should let puppies with parvo virus just mix with other puppies, should we?

I wasn't going to continue risking an argument with you but I think it's really important you see why those comparisons not only don't make sense, they're dangerously erroneous.

A hospital isolation unit is used only on the person or persons being isolated for cause. A lockdown is applied generally regardless of whether or not there's a valid reason for someone to be in isolation. If someone comes into a hospital with a communicable illness the hospital may isolate that person which would be logical. What they wouldn't do is isolate every doctor, nurse, visitor, and patient on the hospital grounds without regard for their exposure status.

In the puppy example, again, isolating the contagious puppy is logical but individually isolating every puppy in the building/county/state/country without regard for individual risk and health status is absurd.

If someone lets loose a particularly horrendous fart in an elevator do you lock down the entire building and systematically fumigate every room on every floor or do you isolate that one elevator until the offending gas has dispersed or been rendered innocuous?

And don't take it personally- by "do you" I only meant someone reasonable and with at least an average amount of common sense, of course.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on June 20, 2024, 08:48:26 AMI wasn't going to continue risking an argument with you but I think it's really important you see why those comparisons not only don't make sense, they're dangerously erroneous.

A hospital isolation unit is used only on the person or persons being isolated for cause. A lockdown is applied generally regardless of whether or not there's a valid reason for someone to be in isolation. If someone comes into a hospital with a communicable illness the hospital may isolate that person which would be logical. What they wouldn't do is isolate every doctor, nurse, visitor, and patient on the hospital grounds without regard for their exposure status.

In the puppy example, again, isolating the contagious puppy is logical but individually isolating every puppy in the building/county/state/country without regard for individual risk and health status is absurd.

If someone lets loose a particularly horrendous fart in an elevator do you lock down the entire building and systematically fumigate every room on every floor or do you isolate that one elevator until the offending gas has dispersed or been rendered innocuous?

And don't take it personally- by "do you" I only meant someone reasonable and with at least an average amount of common sense, of course.

OK but is your analogy taking into consideration that many people were seeded and before coming down with obvious symptoms they were seeding other people? Does that focus your attention to the right area of quarantining? Did you know Australia is the only continent that is Rabies free for one? We are also the only place that is Mad Cow disease free also?

Western Australia was in a unique position. We thrived during the pandemic... as far as I was concerned the pandemic could go on forever.

Obviously other people wanted to travel... ya Know, go overseas, screw Asian hookers and pick up herpes AIDS and whatnot.

And I can only go by our example. Other premieres in other states like Victoria were just cruel to the citizens and police were truly evil to fellow Australians.

Once vaccinated fully they couldn't keep us lockdowned.

Formerly, people couldn't afford to fly overseas.... that was truly a big deal if family members went abroad. NOW not so such. And travelling spreads diseases more quickly.

Lockdown slowed the spread but was not managed very well and some of it was bloody downright, stupid.

The other thing to Garraty_47 farts in elevators are not contagious so that analogy is a very, very large fail.

Quote from: caskur on June 20, 2024, 04:45:23 AMThat is why I went for Novavax at the time because it was supposedly like a traditional vaccine.

Now I am an eye witness to EVERYONE I know who safely chose the mRNA and not one had any adverse affects then or now.

Naturally in 2022 I was very weary because I was silly enough to listen to the fools here. When my husband had his first shot and told me I burst into tears. I no longer listen to their skiddish rants.

Trump knew this virus was a heavy duty one but didn't tell Americans. I think he mishandled the pandemic and it cost him the election.... that and stacking the supreme court with cons only.

They can choose to hear the  co-developer virologist as I did or stay uninformed.


 

The fact that you make important medical decisions based on what you read here tells me it is an utter waste of time trying to reason with you

So Trump nominated 3 conservative  justices while in office did he? What mean and nasty thing for a conservative president to do in nominating likeminded individuals to the highest court in the land

This is an outrage. And I'm going draft a very strongly worded letter and mail it to someone has this type treachery cannot stand unchallenged