Quote from: JOE on December 13, 2023, 09:54:04 AMNo. I'm just currently a plain old renter, Prowler.

Oh, I never knew that.

Canada's health care is reactive instead of proactive like Taiwanese health care..

We wait until small issues become big expensive serious problems before anything is done..

That is not a very efficient or humane way to deliver health care.

Quote from: Brent on December 11, 2023, 06:45:27 PMI don't know how we would save health care in Canada. I like how it is supposed to work in theory. I know I hate the US model. I want it to remain a single payer system.

The system should be rationed so that over users and repeat offenders pay extra.

They should be forewarned of the limits and that the healthcare system is not their daycare centre or nanny state.

also, they make the hospitals too damn comfy now.

And they cater too much to the whims of freeloaders and bums.
Back in the day, they were ugly inside and not meant to look like a hotel. They were painted green, grey shit colors so nobody would wanna stay in them for too long.

They  make these new hospitals look to pretty inside. Maybe that courtesy could be extended to old people who worked hard all their lives but nobody else. or sick Kids in a children's hosptial

Other than seniors or sick children, make the hospitals look like an army barrack for everybody else, especially the street bums.

I don't think those hoboes from the street should be allowed in a hospital. I'm sure in the States they frequently get turned away. "Sorry, no shoes, no shirt, no wash...no service. now gtfo."

Quote from: Lokmar on December 11, 2023, 06:15:11 PMNo, its shit. You cant lie to me, josephine. See, I worked for a big RV Dealership that had on-site camping and we hosted your fellow citizens every year. They all had the same thing to say about your shitty health care...ITS SHIT!, and the wait times are abysmal. The wait for simple things like an MRI is criminal in Canduhduh. People with cancer have to wait 6 months or more for procedures! One retired couple in particular, always came several times per year. I suspect that one of them were getting treatment for something...I didnt pry. I got along with them well and the woman would fix us the best cinnamon buns I've ever had. Anyway, they warned us that if we ever did the shit Canduhduh did, we'd be screwed. Viola! Along came O'Nigger Care!

...and yet, what is a stay at the hospital supposed to be like - a night at at 5 star Hilton?

Geez, I don't use the healthcare system here more than I absolutely have to. Even tho it's free and I could. Get in and then get the fuck out. Don't be a burden on the system and the taxpayer.

I would rather not spend any time or set foot in a hospital at all.

Quote from: formosan on December 13, 2023, 01:44:15 PMCanada's health care is reactive instead of proactive like Taiwanese health care..

We wait until small issues become big expensive serious problems before anything is done..

That is not a very efficient or humane way to deliver health care.

Wrong. Canada's health care woes are caused by the same thing that is causing homelessness and classroom overcrowding. We cannot take in one million immigrants, refugees and TFW's every year without these social ills.

Quote from: Seamajor1 on December 13, 2023, 11:11:45 AMInsurance and re insurance drive costs up in the USA. Drs visit here, $40. In California $460. Root canal $6000. Here $300. I visited an emergency room for Flu in Sonoma county community hospital. $2300. I would call insurance companies the exact reason for high pricing.

Last root canal I had was 1/3rd of that.

Insurance should be made illegal. Maybe allow catastrophic policies. Also, government negotiating prices for health care should be eliminated under penalty of death.

Problem solved.

Quote from: Lokmar on December 13, 2023, 07:44:16 PMInsurance should be made illegal. Maybe allow catastrophic policies. Also, government negotiating prices for health care should be eliminated under penalty of death.

Problem solved.

I like it. Drs insurance and re insurance does not exist here.

Quote from: Brent on December 13, 2023, 02:54:37 PMWrong. Canada's health care woes are caused by the same thing that is causing homelessness and classroom overcrowding. We cannot take in one million immigrants, refugees and TFW's every year without these social ills.

Regardless of what is causing our health care problems, Chief Medical Officers from several provinces including my own issued pleas to the public to stay away from emergency rooms over the Christmas holdays unless it's necessary.

I was reading Canada just had too provincial elections where the sorry state of health care was a top issue.

Nothing significant will change at the provincial level. The Canada Health Act itself has to change. It better happen soon too before public health care collapses from coast to coast.

Health was not a deciding factor for us to leave Canada. However, Canada's crumbling public health care was a consideration.

Canada's healthcare system ranks last among peer countries in terms of wait times. Reform is critical: patients deserve timely care, not endless waits.

Access to a waitlist is not access to health care. People are suffering and dying while waiting for care. That is proof of a failing system. Shifting to activity-based funding can incentivize productivity, increase efficiency, and help turn these trends around.

Health care is expensive and it sucks.

Health care was another reason we decided to emigrate. I read something like 1/4 of Canadians do not have a doctor. Canada has more people without basic health care than the US.