Chinese-Canadians split on handling of Huawei case

[JOE]

Editorials have no effect on the American or Canadian justice system.

And yet, it remains a reported news fact that US President Donald Trump did offer to intervene to secure Meng's release:



https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/us-stocks-up-on-trump-possibly-intervening-for-huawei-cfo">https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/us ... huawei-cfo">https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/us-stocks-up-on-trump-possibly-intervening-for-huawei-cfo



Thats not 'fake news' or editorial content Fashionista. Its from a news source friendly to Trump and the Republican party.



Trump did offer to intervene which slightly contradicts your assertion that the Justice Department & the executive  branches of power are completely separate in the United States.

[Anonymous]

Editorials have no effect on the American or Canadian justice system.

And yet, it remains a reported news fact that US President Donald Trump did offer to intervene to secure Meng's release:



https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/us-stocks-up-on-trump-possibly-intervening-for-huawei-cfo">https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/us ... huawei-cfo">https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/us-stocks-up-on-trump-possibly-intervening-for-huawei-cfo



Thats not 'fake news' or editorial content Fashionista. Its from a news source friendly to Trump and the Republican party.



Trump did offer to intervene which slightly contradicts your assertion that the Justice Department & the executive  branches of power are completely separate in the United States.

This is out of the American president's hands..



Chinese believe a president or prime minister can make a call and have charges dropped because that's how it works in a country like China that doesn't have the rule of law.

[Anonymous]

Editorials have no effect on the American or Canadian justice system.

Why do you even bother responding to the sixty year virgin attention whore.

It's my choice.

[Anonymous]

LIE LOW'

Canadians in China advised to exercise caution after third Canuck is detained



TORONTO — An expert in Canada-china relations warns the recent detaining of an Alberta woman over what authorities have called employment issues could signal a ramping up of low-level harassment as the two countries remain locked in a diplomatic dispute.



Lynette Ong, with the Munk School of Global Affairs in Toronto, said Canada's relationship with China fundamentally changed with the arrest of Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of tech giant Huawei in Vancouver on Dec. 1.



"I think both sides have actually lost a lot of legitimacy," Ong said Thursday.



Wanzhou was arrested at the request of the United States, where she is wanted on fraud allegations.



Her arrest enraged China which demanded her release and warned of serious consequences.



Days after Meng's arrest, two Canadians were detained in Beijing for allegedly endangering China's national security. Entrepreneur Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig, a former diplomat on a leave of absence from Global Affairs. Both remain in custody.



China's Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said Thursday a Canadian woman had received an administrative penalty for illegal employment. She did not provide further details.



Several news outlets have reported that the Alberta woman who is being detained is Sarah Mciver. She has been teaching in China for months.



The National Post reported that she was teaching at a school in China when she was detained due to visa complications and that arrangements were being made for her return to Canada.



Consular officials are providing assistance to the detainee's family, Global Affairs Canada said.



Mciver had worked in multiple countries as a teacher, said Shaun Starr, whose brother was in a relationship with the Albertan a few years ago. While they haven't spoken in awhile, Starr said Mciver posts about her travels on Facebook and has always been adventurous.



"She's a well-spirited person," Starr said in an interview.



The Chinese government could be reacting to Meng's arrest by creating bureaucratic inconveniences for Canadians, Ong said. That could include cracking down on people who have overstayed their visas while awaiting their renewal.



Canadians who study or do business in China may want to lie low and keep a low profile, she said.



"In the short term, in the next couple of months, I would try to cease any operations in China," she said. "I would definitely avoid taking any risky activities because the political environment is just not conducive."



Law enforcement officials allege that Wanzhou lied to U.S. banks about a corporate structure devised to get around sanctions against Iran. In China, Ong said Canada is seen as helping the United States with its politically calculated strategy to contain their country.



The Chinese government likely wants to show it has bargaining power by making life difficult for Canadians and Canadian businesses, she said.

[JOE]

And thats what we get for getting involved in a Made in America's problem.



Shouldve told that ceo to go hone back to China



This problem didnt even concern Canada



Its America bitchin about the new kid on the block

LIE LOW'

Canadians in China advised to exercise caution after third Canuck is detained



TORONTO — An expert in Canada-china relations warns the recent detaining of an Alberta woman over what authorities have called employment issues could signal a ramping up of low-level harassment as the two countries remain locked in a diplomatic dispute.



Lynette Ong, with the Munk School of Global Affairs in Toronto, said Canada's relationship with China fundamentally changed with the arrest of Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of tech giant Huawei in Vancouver on Dec. 1.



"I think both sides have actually lost a lot of legitimacy," Ong said Thursday.



Wanzhou was arrested at the request of the United States, where she is wanted on fraud allegations.



Her arrest enraged China which demanded her release and warned of serious consequences.



Days after Meng's arrest, two Canadians were detained in Beijing for allegedly endangering China's national security. Entrepreneur Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig, a former diplomat on a leave of absence from Global Affairs. Both remain in custody.



China's Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said Thursday a Canadian woman had received an administrative penalty for illegal employment. She did not provide further details.



Several news outlets have reported that the Alberta woman who is being detained is Sarah Mciver. She has been teaching in China for months.



The National Post reported that she was teaching at a school in China when she was detained due to visa complications and that arrangements were being made for her return to Canada.



Consular officials are providing assistance to the detainee's family, Global Affairs Canada said.



Mciver had worked in multiple countries as a teacher, said Shaun Starr, whose brother was in a relationship with the Albertan a few years ago. While they haven't spoken in awhile, Starr said Mciver posts about her travels on Facebook and has always been adventurous.



"She's a well-spirited person," Starr said in an interview.



The Chinese government could be reacting to Meng's arrest by creating bureaucratic inconveniences for Canadians, Ong said. That could include cracking down on people who have overstayed their visas while awaiting their renewal.



Canadians who study or do business in China may want to lie low and keep a low profile, she said.



"In the short term, in the next couple of months, I would try to cease any operations in China," she said. "I would definitely avoid taking any risky activities because the political environment is just not conducive."



Law enforcement officials allege that Wanzhou lied to U.S. banks about a corporate structure devised to get around sanctions against Iran. In China, Ong said Canada is seen as helping the United States with its politically calculated strategy to contain their country.



The Chinese government likely wants to show it has bargaining power by making life difficult for Canadians and Canadian businesses, she said.

[Anonymous]

And thats what we get for getting involved in a Made in America's problem.



Shouldve told that ceo to go hone back to China



This problem didnt even concern Canada



Its America bitchin about the new kid on the block

JOE this type of trolling is very rude and it's why Seoul ignores you..



Canada and the USA have an extradition treaty and we're honouring it, but you know that because it's been posted many times.

 :001_rolleyes:

[Gaon]

Meng is out on bail and living in a mansion while one of the detained Canadians is being held in a Chinese prison.

[Anonymous]

Huawei case shows how China's ambitions on collision course with U.S.



somewhere in the miniaturized guts of cellphones. China has been using its commercial leverage to spread its own wireless equipment around the world to extend its influence and control. And Beijing isn't coy about its ambitions: They are codified in its Made in China 2025 policy, announced in 2015 and restated since.



The battleground is "5G" – the next generation in wireless communications. 5G isn't just a faster version of 4G; it is qualitatively different. Currently, wireless phone calls are routed through cell towers. With 5G, that link will be nearly direct, cellphone to cellphone. As a result, 5G will have many positive applications. It is crucial for the advancement of technologies such as autonomous cars that will need to communicate with each other as they move down the highway. But it also creates the potential for much more precise levels of surveillance by governments and potential bad actors.



Huawei, founded by Ren Zhengfei, Meng's father and a former member of the Chinese military, just this year outstripped Apple in smartphone sales. Backed by Beijing, it has for some time been aggressively selling 5G products around the world, alarming the U.S. national-security establishment.



When a country floods a market with low or below-cost goods, economists refer to it as "dumping," which is prohibited by international trade law.



National-security experts are concerned that China, through Huawei and the smaller company ZTE, is engaging in a high-tech version of "standards dumping." They are selling 5G equipment at low prices, spreading their 5G standards and handsets around the world. The United States is concerned that Huawei is embedding technology in its equipment to help Chinese intelligence agencies keep track of users and their communications. One expert in the field refers to the strategy as a "Digital Iron Curtain" descending across countries willing to accept Chinese technology,



Many of Washington's allies are just as concerned. Australia, New Zealand and Japan have banned Huawei equipment from their telecom networks. BT (formerly British Telecom) has announced it will strip Huawei products from its networks; Canada also is mulling a ban.



The Justice Department accused Meng and Huawei of hiding their ownership of a subsidiary company to circumvent export-control laws and sell their products to Iran, a violation of U.S. sanctions. Our stark differences in core values – specifically the rule of law – are highlighted by Meng's treatment in Canada versus the treatment of two Canadians apparently detained by the Chinese in retaliation for her arrest. Meng was given several days of hearings in a public courtroom, jammed with reporters, her lawyers and some of her supporters. And she was able to make bail. Where are the two Canadians? We don't yet know.



Even as China agreed this week to buy more U.S. soybeans, reduce tariffs on imported cars and allow more foreign investment, the graver issue of state control will continue to divide the United States and the West from China.



President Xi Jinping has been very clear about his ambitions to make China the dominant player in the technologies of the future, asserting his country's global power and preserving the power of the Communist Party. Those ambitions are on a collision course with the U.S.-led international order.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/guest-column-huawei-case-shows-how-chinas-ambitions-on-collision-course-with-u-s">https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... e-with-u-s">https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/guest-column-huawei-case-shows-how-chinas-ambitions-on-collision-course-with-u-s

[Gaon]

China has a different ideas about the global power balance than China and Europe.

[Anonymous]

China has a different ideas about the global power balance than China and Europe.

[Anonymous]

China has a different ideas about the global power balance than China and Europe.