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[Biggie Smiles]

maybe Lotus should have started posting Fractals and given politics a rest.

There is nothing wrong with her passion for socialism. But, she uses it as an excuse to rant and rave and flame. I thought she is a troll, but Fash thinks she's just plain nuts.

I'm going to be honest.  I grew up in the liberal SF Bay Area. With very liberal parents, leftist Dad really...really left, as in LEFT. lol  I was much like Lotus when I first encountered forums online after the Yahoo discussion boards were closed. I was outraged that people could think like that!



I was arrogant that I knew what was what and didn't listen to other perspectives, I insulted people too.  Maybe not quite as quick as Lotus, but I got there eventually.  But as I encountered good people that were different than I and had different ideas I began to expand my thinking.   Some of my detractors say that I flip flop and have no core values or principles.



But they don't understand my core values and principles.  They are to learn, to seek truth and much of that is driven by data and history.  So, I'm more centrist as I've learned new things. I feel like it's good to grow and learn, not get stuck in one place.  Lotus, and those like her, are stuck.



 There are things I know we should do to take care of the more vulnerable populations that most people consider not worthy or throwaways, so I'll never be on the right wing - but let's leave that for another discussion on the politics board.



So, yeah she may have mental problems, but she also isn't opening to listening.  



Off soapbox.   Long story short (too late) I'm not perfect either.  But I try to improve my mind.

I think the most annoying thing about her is that she uses these pseudo intellectual catch phrases like "false dichotomy" and "non sequitur" to wiggle out of answering realistic and tough questions. Then calls you stupid. No one jives that.

[Oak]

maybe Lotus should have started posting Fractals and given politics a rest.

There is nothing wrong with her passion for socialism. But, she uses it as an excuse to rant and rave and flame. I thought she is a troll, but Fash thinks she's just plain nuts.

I'm going to be honest.  I grew up in the liberal SF Bay Area. With very liberal parents, leftist Dad really...really left, as in LEFT. lol  I was much like Lotus when I first encountered forums online after the Yahoo discussion boards were closed. I was outraged that people could think like that!



I was arrogant that I knew what was what and didn't listen to other perspectives, I insulted people too.  Maybe not quite as quick as Lotus, but I got there eventually.  But as I encountered good people that were different than I and had different ideas I began to expand my thinking.   Some of my detractors say that I flip flop and have no core values or principles.



But they don't understand my core values and principles.  They are to learn, to seek truth and much of that is driven by data and history.  So, I'm more centrist as I've learned new things. I feel like it's good to grow and learn, not get stuck in one place.  Lotus, and those like her, are stuck.



 There are things I know we should do to take care of the more vulnerable populations that most people consider not worthy or throwaways, so I'll never be on the right wing - but let's leave that for another discussion on the politics board.



So, yeah she may have mental problems, but she also isn't opening to listening.  



Off soapbox.   Long story short (too late) I'm not perfect either.  But I try to improve my mind.

I think the most annoying thing about her is that she uses these pseudo intellectual catch phrases like "false dichotomy" and "non sequitur" to wiggle out of answering realistic and tough questions. Then calls you stupid. No one jives that.

Yes, she's not an honest broker of true discussions.  And she doesn't know how to have fun.  Like, honestly do people here find her funny?   Some people claim they do...but she's never made me laugh, not once.

[Anonymous]

maybe Lotus should have started posting Fractals and given politics a rest.

There is nothing wrong with her passion for socialism. But, she uses it as an excuse to rant and rave and flame. I thought she is a troll, but Fash thinks she's just plain nuts.

I'm going to be honest.  I grew up in the liberal SF Bay Area. With very liberal parents, leftist Dad really...really left, as in LEFT. lol  I was much like Lotus when I first encountered forums online after the Yahoo discussion boards were closed. I was outraged that people could think like that!



I was arrogant that I knew what was what and didn't listen to other perspectives, I insulted people too.  Maybe not quite as quick as Lotus, but I got there eventually.  But as I encountered good people that were different than I and had different ideas I began to expand my thinking.   Some of my detractors say that I flip flop and have no core values or principles.



But they don't understand my core values and principles.  They are to learn, to seek truth and much of that is driven by data and history.  So, I'm more centrist as I've learned new things. I feel like it's good to grow and learn, not get stuck in one place.  Lotus, and those like her, are stuck.



 There are things I know we should do to take care of the more vulnerable populations that most people consider not worthy or throwaways, so I'll never be on the right wing - but let's leave that for another discussion on the politics board.



So, yeah she may have mental problems, but she also isn't opening to listening.  



Off soapbox.   Long story short (too late) I'm not perfect either.  But I try to improve my mind.

As you will see, I too have certain beliefs. Number one is liberty. But, I try to be pragmatic. We live in a pluralistic society. I like debating people who disagree with me.  Echo chambers are boring.

[Oak]

Oak isn't banned. I had a change of heart after ten minutes.

 ac_wot

I just checked for shits and giggles, still banned.

[Anonymous]

Oak isn't banned. I had a change of heart after ten minutes.

 ac_wot

I just checked for shits and giggles, still banned.

I'm going to make some lunch here and then login and take a peek. I'm working from now btw.

[Oak]

Oak isn't banned. I had a change of heart after ten minutes.

 ac_wot

I just checked for shits and giggles, still banned.

I'm going to make some lunch here and then login and take a peek. I'm working from now btw.

Working from home?  Good!

[Frood]

Oak, I suspect Lotus is mentally ill..



How can anybody be that angry all the time.

She is arrogant and has no respect for anyone.  And yeah, she's got mental issues.  She makes this big deal about leaving and then signs in to see if her manipulations worked.



They did.

Hey Oak, do you want me to go kung fu on Lotustwat's hairy old white ass?

Too late. I already did that  ac_lmfao

I basted her up for you...



...you stuck the pineapple in.

[Oak]

And I got blamed.  What a shit show!

[Biggie Smiles]

Yeah it was an odd one.



She wasn't very well liked among normal people.

[Anonymous]

Oak, I suspect Lotus is mentally ill..



How can anybody be that angry all the time.

She is arrogant and has no respect for anyone.  And yeah, she's got mental issues.  She makes this big deal about leaving and then signs in to see if her manipulations worked.



They did.

Hey Oak, do you want me to go kung fu on Lotustwat's hairy old white ass?

Too late. I already did that  ac_lmfao

I basted her up for you...



...you stuck the pineapple in.

Is Lotus back? I was just there and she wasn't there to greet me with flowers. I'm her favourite Chink. ac_dance

[Frood]

And I got blamed.  What a shit show!

You and I getting along together was her tipping point...  

[Frood]

Oak, I suspect Lotus is mentally ill..



How can anybody be that angry all the time.

She is arrogant and has no respect for anyone.  And yeah, she's got mental issues.  She makes this big deal about leaving and then signs in to see if her manipulations worked.



They did.

Hey Oak, do you want me to go kung fu on Lotustwat's hairy old white ass?

Too late. I already did that  ac_lmfao

I basted her up for you...



...you stuck the pineapple in.

Is Lotus back? I was just there and she wasn't there to greet me with flowers. I'm her favourite Chink. ac_dance

KFC does flowers?

[Biggie Smiles]

Oak, I suspect Lotus is mentally ill..



How can anybody be that angry all the time.

She is arrogant and has no respect for anyone.  And yeah, she's got mental issues.  She makes this big deal about leaving and then signs in to see if her manipulations worked.



They did.

Hey Oak, do you want me to go kung fu on Lotustwat's hairy old white ass?

Too late. I already did that  ac_lmfao

I basted her up for you...



...you stuck the pineapple in.

Is Lotus back? I was just there and she wasn't there to greet me with flowers. I'm her favourite Chink. ac_dance

No, she isnt. Just the rodents who are absolutely thrilled to see the stock market in a free fall because seeing Americans suffer helps to sooth their trump derangement syndrome. Because a virus that originates on the otherside of the world is Trump's fault after all. Of course. How wouldn't it be?

[Anonymous]

It's hard to believe there are people that brainwashed and stupid.

[Biggie Smiles]

Lmao... SkidmarksMajor is proposing himself as a pillar of content at SG if Flea agrees to rid the board of the big bad evil biggie.



Yeah, cause the forum could use 34 more threads a day gloating over a global economic collapse that will cost people their lives because it's all Trump's fault. Joe, Sea and Vigorous Failure will hold the fort down on the content front.





Which reminds me. I Have a story to tell you guys about my interactions with old SeaDork last week.