Coronavirus Facts

[Anonymous]

"Just 6.1% of the population of Sweden had developed coronavirus antibodies by late May, a lower measure than some of its health agency's earlier models had predicted.



Uhm, fail.  All those deaths for no real protection.  Herd immunity is rare.



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You're cherry picking data. Belarus has never had a lock down, has few if any restrictions and yet has just 351 deaths from COVID. The Chinese province of Taiwan took a different approach than Western countries and has just 7 deaths to coronavirus.



We do know that 53,000 surgeries and treatments were postponed indefinitely in our largest province, Ontario that we will never know how deaths it caused. That's just one province.



We also know that lock downs will cause hundreds of thousands of deaths around the world due to famine alone.



Sweden has the same problem as Canada. Both countries have disproportionate numbers of deaths in senior's care facilities. Both countries should have locked down it's senior's care facilities. Locking down healthy populations for a virus that 99% recover from is the definition of insane. The world is paying the price for such madness.

[Anonymous]

I'm with Shen Li on the issue of lock downs, although I agreed with it at first..



In my province, we have experienced a bit of a spike in new coronavirus cases since we opened restaurants(100 per cent capacity), hair and nail salons, gyms, pools and so on..



But, we're finding that most people getting infected now are younger and don't require hospitalization..



Sweden like Canadian provinces, should've locked down elder care facilities instead of closing schools and important sectors of the economy as North America and most of Europe did.

[Anonymous]

The second wave is already here in a four of the world's largest countries. So, what do we do? Go back down into full lock down and create mass unemployment, famine, and death. Hell no.

[Anonymous]

Any public health official who recommends a return to full lock downs or anything less than a speedier reopening should be boiled in oil.

UPMC doctor says COVID-19 has become 'less prevalent' and isn't making people as sick



Fewer people are testing positive for COVID-19 and those who test positive don't seem to be getting as sick, a UPMC doctor said Thursday.



"All signs that we have available right now show that this virus is less prevalent than it was weeks ago," said Dr. Donald Yealy, the chair of emergency medicine at UPMC.



Yealy further said, among people who test positive, "the total amount of the virus the patient has is much less than in the earlier stages of the pandemic."



The proportion of people with COVID-19 getting so sick they need a breathing ventilator has fallen, according to Yealy.



"We see all of this as evidence that COVID-19 cases are less severe than when this first started," he said.



Yealy said those observations apply to western and central Pennsylvania along with communities in New York and Maryland served by UPMC.



Yealy said he doesn't know exactly why the prevalence and severity of COVID-19 seems to have fallen. He said it likely reflects an interplay of things including weather, possible genetic changes in the virus, people watching themselves more closely for symptoms, and better medical decisions and treatment.

He said UPMC has so far conducted about 30,000 coronavirus tests, with less than 4% showing positive. He further said UPMC has tested about 8,000 patients who had no symptoms, with those patients testing positive at a rate of about 1 in 400.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/06/upmc-doctor-says-covid-19-has-become-less-prevalent-and-less-severe.html">https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/06/u ... evere.html">https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/06/upmc-doctor-says-covid-19-has-become-less-prevalent-and-less-severe.html

[Anonymous]

Any public health official who recommends a return to full lock downs or anything less than a speedier reopening should be boiled in oil.

UPMC doctor says COVID-19 has become 'less prevalent' and isn't making people as sick



Fewer people are testing positive for COVID-19 and those who test positive don't seem to be getting as sick, a UPMC doctor said Thursday.



"All signs that we have available right now show that this virus is less prevalent than it was weeks ago," said Dr. Donald Yealy, the chair of emergency medicine at UPMC.



Yealy further said, among people who test positive, "the total amount of the virus the patient has is much less than in the earlier stages of the pandemic."



The proportion of people with COVID-19 getting so sick they need a breathing ventilator has fallen, according to Yealy.



"We see all of this as evidence that COVID-19 cases are less severe than when this first started," he said.



Yealy said those observations apply to western and central Pennsylvania along with communities in New York and Maryland served by UPMC.



Yealy said he doesn't know exactly why the prevalence and severity of COVID-19 seems to have fallen. He said it likely reflects an interplay of things including weather, possible genetic changes in the virus, people watching themselves more closely for symptoms, and better medical decisions and treatment.

He said UPMC has so far conducted about 30,000 coronavirus tests, with less than 4% showing positive. He further said UPMC has tested about 8,000 patients who had no symptoms, with those patients testing positive at a rate of about 1 in 400.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/06/upmc-doctor-says-covid-19-has-become-less-prevalent-and-less-severe.html">https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/06/u ... evere.html">https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/06/upmc-doctor-says-covid-19-has-become-less-prevalent-and-less-severe.html

cc posted something similar to this..



The severity rate is falling even as cases rise in Alberta probably because the people who are catching it are younger.

[Anonymous]

We've lost our minds over something that most people shouldn't worry about.

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[Anonymous]

I know far more Canadians and Americans have the coronavirus than officially reported.



U.S. health officials estimate 20 million Americans have had coronavirus



WASHINGTON -- U.S. officials estimate that 20 million Americans have been infected with the coronavirus since it first arrived in the United States, meaning that the vast majority of the population remains susceptible.



Thursday's estimate is roughly 10 times as many infections as the 2.3 million cases that have been confirmed. Officials have long known that millions of people were infected without knowing it and that many cases are being missed because of gaps in testing.



Twenty million infections means that about 6% of the nation's 331 million people have been infected.



"It's clear that many individuals in this nation are still susceptible," Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said on a call with reporters Thursday. "Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually are 10 more infections."

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[Anonymous]

I know far more Canadians and Americans have the coronavirus than officially reported.



U.S. health officials estimate 20 million Americans have had coronavirus



WASHINGTON -- U.S. officials estimate that 20 million Americans have been infected with the coronavirus since it first arrived in the United States, meaning that the vast majority of the population remains susceptible.



Thursday's estimate is roughly 10 times as many infections as the 2.3 million cases that have been confirmed. Officials have long known that millions of people were infected without knowing it and that many cases are being missed because of gaps in testing.



Twenty million infections means that about 6% of the nation's 331 million people have been infected.



"It's clear that many individuals in this nation are still susceptible," Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said on a call with reporters Thursday. "Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually are 10 more infections."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/u-s-health-officials-estimate-20-million-americans-have-had-coronavirus-1.4999818">https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavir ... -1.4999818">https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/u-s-health-officials-estimate-20-million-americans-have-had-coronavirus-1.4999818

The actual number of infections is between 6 and 24 times higher than the official tally. By the time a vaccine is available, it might be too late.

[Anonymous]

I know far more Canadians and Americans have the coronavirus than officially reported.



U.S. health officials estimate 20 million Americans have had coronavirus



WASHINGTON -- U.S. officials estimate that 20 million Americans have been infected with the coronavirus since it first arrived in the United States, meaning that the vast majority of the population remains susceptible.



Thursday's estimate is roughly 10 times as many infections as the 2.3 million cases that have been confirmed. Officials have long known that millions of people were infected without knowing it and that many cases are being missed because of gaps in testing.



Twenty million infections means that about 6% of the nation's 331 million people have been infected.



"It's clear that many individuals in this nation are still susceptible," Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said on a call with reporters Thursday. "Our best estimate right now is that for every case that was reported, there actually are 10 more infections."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/u-s-health-officials-estimate-20-million-americans-have-had-coronavirus-1.4999818">https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavir ... -1.4999818">https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/u-s-health-officials-estimate-20-million-americans-have-had-coronavirus-1.4999818

The actual number of infections is between 6 and 24 times higher than the official tally. By the time a vaccine is available, it might be too late.

The USA might get some form of herd immunity.

[Anonymous]

The death rate for people who contract COVID-19 is uncertain but is probably closer to that of the seasonal flu than figures commonly reported by the press.



The actual death rate from COVID is similar to seasonal flu. In fact, since many people are asymptomatic, it's milder than the flu.

The average years of life lost from each COVID-19 death are significantly fewer than common causes of untimely death like accidents and suicides.



The virus that causes COVID-19 is "very vulnerable to antibody neutralization" and has limited ability to mutate, which means it is very unlikely to take lives year after year.



If 240,000 COVID-19 deaths ultimately occur in the United States, the virus will rob about 2.9 million years of life from all Americans who were alive at the outset of 2020, while accidents will rob them of about 409 million years—or about 140 times more than COVID-19.



On the other hand, elderly people and those with chronic ailments are extremely vulnerable to COVID-19. Furthermore, the disease is highly transmissible, which means it could spread like wildfire and overwhelm hospitals without extraordinary measures to contain it. This would greatly increase its death toll.



However, such precautionary measures often have economic and other impacts that can cost lives, and overreacting can ultimately kill more people than are saved.

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[Anonymous]

We should have locked down vulnerable populations only.

[@realAzhyaAryola]

Has anyone else here received a test?

[Anonymous]

Has anyone else here received a test?

Have you had one Azhya?



My husband and I will get tested when they are available in pharmacies.

[@realAzhyaAryola]

Has anyone else here received a test?

Have you had one Azhya?



My husband and I will get tested when they are available in pharmacies.

Not yet but I am considering getting tested.

[Anonymous]

I aint been tested. Obviously the Seoul brother has been tested a few times.