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The long term cost of lock downs

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Gaon

I am getting tired of the coronavirus measures. But, BC's restrictions are not as severe as in other parts of North America.
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Anonymous

Rash of student suicides push Las Vegas schools to partially reopen



Clark County School District in Nevada, the nation's fifth-largest school district, wants to reopen as "quickly as possible" following a rash of student suicides, according to a new report.



There were 18 suicides in the nine months that the schools were closed due to the coronavirus lockdown, which is double the amount of suicides in all of the previous year, according to the New York Times.

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Anonymous

The COVID recession may kill more Americans than COVID-19 does

https://fortune.com/2021/01/06/covid-pandemic-recession-unemployment-mortality-rate-increase/?fbclid=IwAR395MW1tlH8P02i1RaWIAlDMvV9AYPtBT_qd_gzcPMy1pc3QuYLgRLe0g8">https://fortune.com/2021/01/06/covid-pa ... uYLgRLe0g8">https://fortune.com/2021/01/06/covid-pandemic-recession-unemployment-mortality-rate-increase/?fbclid=IwAR395MW1tlH8P02i1RaWIAlDMvV9AYPtBT_qd_gzcPMy1pc3QuYLgRLe0g8



The economic effects of COVID-19 could prove deadlier than the disease itself.



So says just-released research, which concludes that the total lives lost to the virus in the U.S. may "far exceed those immediately related to the acute COVID-19 critical illness...The recession caused by the pandemic can jeopardize population health for the next two decades."



The new working paper, by authors at Duke University, Harvard Medical School, and the Johns Hopkins University business school, focuses on the almost instantaneous unemployment of millions of workers in March and April. The unemployment rate jumped from nearly the lowest in 50 years to the highest since the current measurement system began in 1948. While it has come down, it's still at its highest rate since the recovery from the 2008–09 financial crisis.  



The authors wondered how unemployment affects mortality and life expectancy years later. Little research on that question existed, so they conducted their own analysis using 67 years of data about unemployment, life expectancy, and death rates from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. They were able to separate the effects of the unprecedented 2020 unemployment spike from other factors that affect mortality and life expectancy.



Their main finding: Over the next 20 years, 1.37 million more people will die than would have died without the unemployment shock the pandemic caused, a number the researchers call "staggering." They find also that "excess deaths will disproportionately affect African-Americans." The implied increases in deaths per 100,000 individuals over the next 20 years are 32.6 for African-Americans versus 24.6 for white Americans. In all, about 3.2% more people would die in the U.S. over that span than would have died without the spike in joblessness.



These new findings further complicate the excruciating quandary facing policymakers. Lockdowns and other restrictions impose economic suffering but save lives. If it turns out that the economic suffering, while saving lives in the near term, also costs lives in later years, then what is the right policy response? The researchers emphasize that "we do not want to suggest that policymakers should refrain from ordering lockdowns as necessary lifesaving measures"; rather, policy should also provide "enhanced health and economic support for the most vulnerable portions of the population."



In the U.S., that support has been provided, at least partially, through stimulus checks, extra unemployment insurance, and other measures enacted last spring and in December. So could the new paper's predictions of excess deaths be overblown? Maybe, but other factors suggest they could be underestimated.

Anonymous

Quote from: Gaon post_id=399300 time=1611555302 user_id=3170
I am getting tired of the coronavirus measures. But, BC's restrictions are not as severe as in other parts of North America.

Without vaccines, we will not get back to normal.

Anonymous

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Quote from: Gaon post_id=399300 time=1611555302 user_id=3170
I am getting tired of the coronavirus measures. But, BC's restrictions are not as severe as in other parts of North America.

Without vaccines, we will not get back to normal.

Our current restrictions in Alberta will last longer than last spring.

Frood

Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=399564 time=1611712127 user_id=2015
Quote from: Gaon post_id=399300 time=1611555302 user_id=3170
I am getting tired of the coronavirus measures. But, BC's restrictions are not as severe as in other parts of North America.

Without vaccines, we will not get back to normal.




Or the human genome will suffer because of these vaccines...
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

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Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=399564 time=1611712127 user_id=2015
Quote from: Gaon post_id=399300 time=1611555302 user_id=3170
I am getting tired of the coronavirus measures. But, BC's restrictions are not as severe as in other parts of North America.

Without vaccines, we will not get back to normal.




Or the human genome will suffer because of these vaccines...

I get a flu vaccine every fall.

Frood

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Quote from: Gaon post_id=399300 time=1611555302 user_id=3170
I am getting tired of the coronavirus measures. But, BC's restrictions are not as severe as in other parts of North America.

Without vaccines, we will not get back to normal.




Or the human genome will suffer because of these vaccines...

I get a flu vaccine every fall.


I got it one time in 2009, which caused me to get swine flu and infect a whole region that was otherwise swine flu free.



I literally infected everyone in my business and then it spread from them onto their families and friends.



But that wasn't a mRNA vax... it was still much more safer and tested...
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

I get a flu shot every fall, and I've never had the swine flu.

Anonymous

Businesses in Alberta are facing closures are 'at a tipping point' as their patience wears thin with current restrictions.

Anonymous

Canada's economy lost 213,000 jobs in January, about five times more than what economists were expecting, as retail lockdowns forced more businesses to close their doors across the country.



tatistics Canada reported Friday that the jobless rate ticked up 0.6 percentage points to 9.4 per cent. That's the highest level since August. Overall employment also fell to its lowest level since that month.



January's drop means that overall, Canada now has 858,000 fewer jobs than it did in February of last year, before COVID-19 began. Another 529,000 people have managed to keep their job but are working less than they would normally because of the pandemic.



Almost all of the job losses came from Ontario and Quebec, which lost a combined 251,000 jobs — mostly in retail, accommodation and food services. That plunge was offset by slight job gains in Alberta, Manitoba, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island, while the jobs number held steady in British Columbia, Saskatchewan and New Brunswick.

Anonymous

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Canada's economy lost 213,000 jobs in January, about five times more than what economists were expecting, as retail lockdowns forced more businesses to close their doors across the country.



tatistics Canada reported Friday that the jobless rate ticked up 0.6 percentage points to 9.4 per cent. That's the highest level since August. Overall employment also fell to its lowest level since that month.



January's drop means that overall, Canada now has 858,000 fewer jobs than it did in February of last year, before COVID-19 began. Another 529,000 people have managed to keep their job but are working less than they would normally because of the pandemic.



Almost all of the job losses came from Ontario and Quebec, which lost a combined 251,000 jobs — mostly in retail, accommodation and food services. That plunge was offset by slight job gains in Alberta, Manitoba, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island, while the jobs number held steady in British Columbia, Saskatchewan and New Brunswick.

Canada, how do you like your trial run of Socialism?

Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=400870 time=1612591884 user_id=56
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=400768 time=1612551997 user_id=114
Canada's economy lost 213,000 jobs in January, about five times more than what economists were expecting, as retail lockdowns forced more businesses to close their doors across the country.



tatistics Canada reported Friday that the jobless rate ticked up 0.6 percentage points to 9.4 per cent. That's the highest level since August. Overall employment also fell to its lowest level since that month.



January's drop means that overall, Canada now has 858,000 fewer jobs than it did in February of last year, before COVID-19 began. Another 529,000 people have managed to keep their job but are working less than they would normally because of the pandemic.



Almost all of the job losses came from Ontario and Quebec, which lost a combined 251,000 jobs — mostly in retail, accommodation and food services. That plunge was offset by slight job gains in Alberta, Manitoba, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island, while the jobs number held steady in British Columbia, Saskatchewan and New Brunswick.

Canada, how do you like your trial run of Socialism?

Our country is collapsing and people keep voting for the cause.

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=400872 time=1612591994 user_id=1689
Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=400870 time=1612591884 user_id=56
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=400768 time=1612551997 user_id=114
Canada's economy lost 213,000 jobs in January, about five times more than what economists were expecting, as retail lockdowns forced more businesses to close their doors across the country.



tatistics Canada reported Friday that the jobless rate ticked up 0.6 percentage points to 9.4 per cent. That's the highest level since August. Overall employment also fell to its lowest level since that month.



January's drop means that overall, Canada now has 858,000 fewer jobs than it did in February of last year, before COVID-19 began. Another 529,000 people have managed to keep their job but are working less than they would normally because of the pandemic.



Almost all of the job losses came from Ontario and Quebec, which lost a combined 251,000 jobs — mostly in retail, accommodation and food services. That plunge was offset by slight job gains in Alberta, Manitoba, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island, while the jobs number held steady in British Columbia, Saskatchewan and New Brunswick.

Canada, how do you like your trial run of Socialism?

Our country is collapsing and people keep voting for the cause.

I don't understand what they like about his government.

 ac_dunno

Anonymous

The verdict is in.


QuoteNew Study Indicates Lockdowns Didn't Slow the Spread of Covid-19



team of Stanford University researchers recently published a study in the European Journal of Clinical Investigation concluding that harsh lockdown policies have had minimal impact on preventing the spread of Covid-19 compared to lighter policies.



I'm willing to admit I supported lockdowns in the beginning because they seemed to be good in theory. Sacrifice some freedom now to preserve long-term aggregate freedom and prosperity. Eventually, every intellectually honest and reasonable person needs to ask, where's the real evidence? After two weeks to flatten the curve turned into ten months and counting with a world undone, people are understandably skeptical of whether harsh lockdown policies had any benefit. Some studies such as this one published in Nature by a large team of epidemiologists state that lockdowns have drastically reduced the potential damage of Covid-19. However, such studies are unreliable as they rely on assumptions about what they think could have happened. They take the cases and deaths today and then make up a potential outcome for what would have happened without lockdowns, then claim that lockdowns worked.



Key Takeaways



lockdown policies around the world have failed to produce the results that we were told they would. Countries that locked down the hardest like Belgium and the United Kingdom also have some of the worst statistics per capita, even worse than the United States, the punching bag for lockdown supporters.

https://www.aier.org/article/new-study-indicates-lockdowns-didnt-slow-the-spread-of-covid-19/">https://www.aier.org/article/new-study- ... -covid-19/">https://www.aier.org/article/new-study-indicates-lockdowns-didnt-slow-the-spread-of-covid-19/