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Started by Herman, December 24, 2022, 12:41:25 AM

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Oerdin

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DKG

File this under climate craziness.



Government officials in Ireland are considering a plan to kill 200,000 cows to combat climate change, according to reports.



There were multiple reports this week that the Irish government was contemplating a plan to cull 200,000 cows within three years to fight climate change. The Irish Mirror stated that "the cows would have to be 'culled' at a cost of €600,000 to taxpayers over the next three years to meet climate emissions targets."

Herman

Climate myths proven wrong.

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Adolf Oliver Bush

I got bad news for climate alarmists. The climate is going to do what it's done for the last 4.3 billion years... "change". And there ain't a goddamned thing anyone can do about it.
Her fucking fupa looked like a pair of ass cheeks... like someone naked ran into her head first and got stuck. She was like "come eat me out" and I was like "nah I think I'll go snort some anthrax and light myself on fire instead"

 - Biggie Smiles

Herman

Justine's climate dreams are all over the place.



https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-liberal-climate-policy-reducing-emissions/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&fbclid=IwAR2xHJ8z2GMUfSQljM6sJdrquFGQhDQNQnFYX7W2z75DvPN0t6Qk7iu__jE">https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busines ... 6Qk7iu__jE">https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-liberal-climate-policy-reducing-emissions/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&fbclid=IwAR2xHJ8z2GMUfSQljM6sJdrquFGQhDQNQnFYX7W2z75DvPN0t6Qk7iu__jE

Justine's mandates contradict each other. To meet the requirements of the Clean Fuel Regulations, Canada needs significantly more investment in feedstocks, production and refining of clean fuels. But stacking the ZEV (zero-emissions vehicle) and clean electricity mandates on top of those regulations diminishes the market for even the cleanest fuels and totally undermines the business case for those investments.



Going by the ZEV mandate, refineries for clean fuels are destined to be uneconomic by 2035, the point at which all new light-duty vehicles must be electric. Why would companies want to make the necessary investments to meet the clean-fuel standards in the case? You can force industry to follow new laws, but you can't force it to lose money.



That lack of feasibility is what seemed to drive Parkland PKI-T, a Canadian fuel supplier, to cancel its plans for a renewable diesel refinery in Burnaby, B.C., in March. It cited "a lack of market certainty around emerging renewable fuels" alongside rising costs and competition from the United States.



Maybe this mishmash disincentive is what the government wants all along. Maybe policy makers do not want any gasoline or diesel, clean or unclean, and want all energy sources replaced by electricity.



That lack of feasibility is what seemed to drive Parkland PKI-T, a Canadian fuel supplier, to cancel its plans for a renewable diesel refinery in Burnaby, B.C., in March. It cited "a lack of market certainty around emerging renewable fuels" alongside rising costs and competition from the United States.



Maybe this mishmash disincentive is what the government wants all along. Maybe policy makers do not want any gasoline or diesel, clean or unclean, and want all energy sources replaced by electricity.



If that is the case, there is every reason to doubt we will achieve those ZEV targets. That's because they undermine another emissions-reduction mandate: the Clean Electricity Regulations.



It is already a stretch to decarbonize our grid in 12 years, as the government has committed under the Clean Electricity Regulations. We do not have the supply chain, the workers or a regulatory process that is fast enough to do so.



But to decarbonize the grid and add the electrical capacity necessary to accommodate the surge in ZEVs in the exact same time frame seems bolder than even Soviet economic planners would have dared propose. PwC, a consultancy, estimates the ZEV mandate will increase peak electricity demand by 25 per cent.



Not only do these mandates compete with each other for the same scarce resources – the electrical steel, copper, aluminum and other critical minerals required for the shift – but they also need to compete with the resource needs of our competitors who are also subsidizing electric vehicles and clean electrification and have the same abundance of ambition as us.



That competition will drive higher costs for these mandates than what policy makers have anticipated.



We might soon find out that these contradictory policies are less like a stack of pancakes, and more like a Jenga tower. Each mandate pulls out a block from Canada's climate strategy. It's starting to wobble.

Oerdin

It is not about climate change.  Just lowering the standards of living and impoverishing the people of the west.

Shen Li

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It is not about climate change.  Just lowering the standards of living and impoverishing the people of the west.

BULLSEYE!!

Adolf Oliver Bush

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It is not about climate change.  Just lowering the standards of living and impoverishing the people of the west.

BULLSEYE!!

The man gets it.



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Her fucking fupa looked like a pair of ass cheeks... like someone naked ran into her head first and got stuck. She was like "come eat me out" and I was like "nah I think I'll go snort some anthrax and light myself on fire instead"

 - Biggie Smiles

Shen Li

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BULLSEYE!!

The man gets it.



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Greta was yesterday's libtard muppet.

Oerdin

Anyone notice how all the radical left communists keep claiming we have to destroy the global economy and impoverish billions to "save the planet"?



https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/06/08/world-energy-council-world-energy-system-not-fit-for-purpose.html">https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/06/08/wor ... rpose.html">https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/06/08/world-energy-council-world-energy-system-not-fit-for-purpose.html

Shen Li

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Anyone notice how all the radical left communists keep claiming we have to destroy the global economy and impoverish billions to "save the planet"?



https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/06/08/world-energy-council-world-energy-system-not-fit-for-purpose.html">https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/06/08/wor ... rpose.html">https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/06/08/world-energy-council-world-energy-system-not-fit-for-purpose.html

It hasn't gone unnoticed.

Oliver Clotheshoffe

[size=150]Mr. Bean feels 'duped' by electric vehicle promises[/size]



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Life is too short to be in a hurry

Herman

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A celebrity who can think. :thumbup:

Oerdin

It is all just magical leftist thinking which falls apart on the details.  The bastards are destroying electricity production in the U.S. by forcing power plants to close, they are removing hydroelectric dams, they won't build any nuclear power, but they rainbow wind and solar can't keep the lights on.p

Adolf Oliver Bush

In fact it's worse than that; these same NIMBYists want the wind farms in YOUR backyard, but never theirs.
Her fucking fupa looked like a pair of ass cheeks... like someone naked ran into her head first and got stuck. She was like "come eat me out" and I was like "nah I think I'll go snort some anthrax and light myself on fire instead"

 - Biggie Smiles