Gun didnt save this Guy

[JOE]

Here in Australia, it is illegal to keep our subpar weapons outside of a dedicated locker or loaded at any time, and the agreement with the firearms licence is that authorities can show up any time of the day or night to inspect the weapons. While that doesn't happen often, especially at night or without a courtesy call, it does happen when they're trying to entrap, investigate, prosecute someone or just shake them down because an altercation just took place on your sidewalk and you sided with the cop's victim/s.



There are multiple layers on how they go about it even while trespassing on your property and being told to vacate (fuck off).



I've had numerous home interactions where I filmed what was going on from my own property and was ordered to stop and desist, or the Aussie cops would take my phone and charge me with me obstruction... from my fucking doorstep.



Each and every time I'd calmly remind them that they're bullies, thieves, and thugs.... and that a decent human being with no other skills can still aspire to janitor or gas station attendant... oh, and get THE FUCK OFF OFF MY PROPERTY.



I'd also ask them if they were still in 10th grade when "The Cloud" system came out. And most of them are like "whatz thatz?"... and I'm like... my phone is irrelevant now but the footage of you demanding my phone is global.



Just as an aside though, I own no firearms here in Oz.



...but I could out-shoot 80 percent of them.... after pistol whipping them with their own gun.



I hold these video footage clips for safety. It's like gold and these problematic cops quickly leave me alone.

Thats just sickening. Sadly, some cops here are starting to act like that. Then again, the courts have re-affirmed our 2nd Amendment rights so the flip side is cops are prone to getting mowed down here.

If that was you, you woulda been shot dead outside yer home jes' like that guy in Texas, Lokmeer.



Only faster, eh?



The young guy was a second faster than you tho.



And if the Authorities really want yer guns, I suspect yer 2nd ammendment rights will mean doodly squat. They'll just take em away from ya long with the shirt on yer back.



Kinda like that scene in T2, eh Lokmeer?

[Zetsu]

Exactly, and another thing is the person calling 911 might not be telling the real or precise truth too.  Police are trained to not believe everything without solid evidence, especially in very dangerous situations after arriving and hearing gun shots at the scene.  Lets not forget their life (the officer's) is also a "human life" and should be taken as first priority like in nearly all emergency training.

Oh, so people lie, so pigs should gun down a guy before an attempt is made to find out what's going on??? Like a "swatting"?



No effort was made by the cops.



They murdered him.



It's what most modern day cops are trained to do.... shoot first and create a narrative later after the person they killed can't speak up for themselves.



AT THE VERY BASIC FUCKING MINIMUM, the cops should have adequately announced themselves and their intent to shoot the guy unless he quickly and fully complied with their directions.



No such favour was extended. Dude was executed by the Pig Force.



I know many of you so called conservative Canadians but in reality leftist leaners don't comprehend what I'm saying.



Unlike you, I still have a spine. That's the issue. Your childlike naivety and dogged resistance against letting your balls drop even in middle age (where you with life experience, should know better), is disgusting to me. I see similar shit here in Oz.



It's like all the muppet babies in the world for the last 50 years have been predominantly born and raised in Commonwealth countries.



Maybe it's a throwback to your subservient culture. Maybe it's that and a combination of estrogen mimicking micro-plastics in the water supply and food chain.... I dunno.... I can only guess. But I guarantee you that if I loathed myself enough to be a pig and encountered you on patrol pointing a pistol at your tackle, I'd try to talk to you before shooting you dead.

Well, maybe you gutless chickenshits should stop whining and help out instead by doing a better job?  



No, I'm not joking one bit, the problem with today's society is there's too many entitled ppl that can only cry but never get anything done or help out.  

[Zetsu]

If you're so unsatisfied you should become a police and show them how it's done the politically correct way.  It's always easy to judge when you're perfectly safe behind the monitor, when in reality the police barely have enough time to react, a lot of split second situations are determined by gut and adrenaline instincts.

The cop should have been terminated. He took an innocent life. IDGAF what the circumstances are, if you make a bad judgment call, you should be looking for a new career. You know, when a cop went through the simulator and shot the wrong person, they didnt get an award.....

Dude, this not a video game where there's a name tag or team names displayed over peoples head.  The cops arrived at the scene and saw and heard the suspect shooting into his own home, shooting a potentially highly dangerous person is ALWAYS justified.  If you don't like it go join the police force and see if you got the guts to what you say.

[Zetsu]

When you sign up to be a cop, you are accepting that you will find yourself in risky situations.



The cop did a shit job.  The cop could have found good cover and identified himself and given the guy a chance to lay down his weapon.



Some people have the ability to stay calm and follow proper procedures in a high-stress situation.  This cop does not.  Unfortunately, I think most do not.

It's b/c they're a cop, they must minimize the risk at all cost, it's called "probabilities" which we studied in elementary school.  



Police are "people" too, the only real moral difference between you and them is they're just wearing a "uniform" and we aren't.



Only way to get this solved is go become and police and do what you really mean.

[Frood]

Oh, so people lie, so pigs should gun down a guy before an attempt is made to find out what's going on??? Like a "swatting"?



No effort was made by the cops.



They murdered him.



It's what most modern day cops are trained to do.... shoot first and create a narrative later after the person they killed can't speak up for themselves.



AT THE VERY BASIC FUCKING MINIMUM, the cops should have adequately announced themselves and their intent to shoot the guy unless he quickly and fully complied with their directions.



No such favour was extended. Dude was executed by the Pig Force.



I know many of you so called conservative Canadians but in reality leftist leaners don't comprehend what I'm saying.



Unlike you, I still have a spine. That's the issue. Your childlike naivety and dogged resistance against letting your balls drop even in middle age (where you with life experience, should know better), is disgusting to me. I see similar shit here in Oz.



It's like all the muppet babies in the world for the last 50 years have been predominantly born and raised in Commonwealth countries.



Maybe it's a throwback to your subservient culture. Maybe it's that and a combination of estrogen mimicking micro-plastics in the water supply and food chain.... I dunno.... I can only guess. But I guarantee you that if I loathed myself enough to be a pig and encountered you on patrol pointing a pistol at your tackle, I'd try to talk to you before shooting you dead.

Well, maybe you gutless chickenshits should stop whining and help out instead by doing a better job?  



No, I'm not joking one bit, the problem with today's society is there's too many entitled ppl that can only cry but never get anything done or help out.  

No, the problem with today's society is we support the mentally ill and allow them a voice and a vote regardless of them living at home in a room full of bird shit and feathers.

[Blazor]

The guy who got shot, deserves a gold casket and 5 funerals. More so than Floyd. Change my Mind.

[Zetsu]

Well, maybe you gutless chickenshits should stop whining and help out instead by doing a better job?  



No, I'm not joking one bit, the problem with today's society is there's too many entitled ppl that can only cry but never get anything done or help out.  

No, the problem with today's society is we support the mentally ill and allow them a voice and a vote regardless of them living at home in a room full of bird shit and feathers.

And officially discriminating against the cops and crying behind the monitor isn't going to help.



This kind of whining reminds me of the immigrants that come here and complain about the least racist nation, but aren't willing to move, same with cop-haters, you're quick to judge but never got what it takes help out out or do the job.

[Zetsu]

The guy who got shot, deserves a gold casket and 5 funerals. More so than Floyd. Change my Mind.

Sadly I have to agree with this, the police did what they have to based on the situation, but the sh*t had to hit the fan for the guy.

[TheProwler]

Zetsu, you have suggested that people here should become cops to solve the "bad, trigger-happy police" problem at least half a dozen times in this thread.



So you think a handful of good cops would fix the problem?  Over 600,000 police in the USA, and 5 good ones will fix everything; that is a stupid thing to suggest.



And the idea that citizens cannot or should not criticize police actions is objectively wrong.  The police are funded by the taxpayers and the taxpayers do and should have a right to criticize them.



You have stated your case.  You think cops should not put themselves at risk.  Gotcha.  No need to repeat yourself.

[Odinson]

I gotta watch the video again but...



The cop did the best he could with the information he had.





The deceased should have minded his surroundings.



He looked like the attacker.

[Zetsu]

Zetsu, you have suggested that people here should become cops to solve the "bad, trigger-happy police" problem at least half a dozen times in this thread.



So you think a handful of good cops would fix the problem?  Over 600,000 police in the USA, and 5 good ones will fix everything; that is a stupid thing to suggest.



And the idea that citizens cannot or should not criticize police actions is objectively wrong.  The police are funded by the taxpayers and the taxpayers do and should have a right to criticize them.



You have stated your case.  You think cops should not put themselves at risk.  Gotcha.  No need to repeat yourself.

I wouldn't say he was trigger happy, it's hard to say, I wasn't able to see the suspect in the body cam footage.  Considering the US is plague with gun violence, I understand the cop for doing what was necessary based on the situation so he can go home for the day to see his wife and kids.



Sure it ain't stupid when there are A LOT of people that are quick to criticize the police for not fulfilling their expectations, not just 5, I'm sure there's millions of them.  No offence intended, but if everyone thinks like this, we won't even have a police force or an army to begin with.



I don't ever see paying tax is a justified excuse considering law enforcement and national defense are the most stressful job in the world and severely underpaid.  The only way to get better service is to stop demoralizing and help out OR pay more taxes to hire more police officers considering they're always under budget, more training, and 2 to 3x the wage, that's how police corruption are fixed in most countries.



Lets face it, no one wants to be a cop, people should be grateful there are people willing to risk their neck to keep the society safe and functioning, last thing we should do is rub dirt in their faces of the people that just wants to help and protect others.

[TheProwler]

Cop did a shit job.  Killed a guy that was no threat to him.



"But they are underpaid."



Fuck off.



I do not give a fuck if they are underpaid.  I do not give a fuck if they are volunteers.  You sign up to do a job, you do it right.



Or quit.

[Zetsu]

Cop did a shit job.  Killed a guy that was no threat to him.



"But they are underpaid."



Fuck off.



I do not give a fuck if they are underpaid.  I do not give a fuck if they are volunteers.  You sign up to do a job, you do it right.



Or quit.

Fuck you bitch

[TheProwler]

Cop did a shit job.  Killed a guy that was no threat to him.



"But they are underpaid."



Fuck off.



I do not give a fuck if they are underpaid.  I do not give a fuck if they are volunteers.  You sign up to do a job, you do it right.



Or quit.

Fuck you bitch

Hey, at least you said something new, you repetitive fuckwad.

[Zetsu]

He has done it properly btw, else he'll be convicted by the judge.