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2015 By Far The Hottest Year In Recorded History

Started by Romero, January 20, 2016, 06:00:58 PM

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Bricktop

Without falling on either side of the argument, although 2015 did seem very hot to us, the problem with "cherry picking" the web is that there is a proliferation of web sites all proponents of various views and opinions, and these sites often get cited as a valid source.



Raw Story is not a valid source.

Romero

Do you believe NASA, NOAA, the UK Met Office and the Japan Meteorological Agency are not valid sources?

Anonymous

Unfortunately, alarmists look at the headline and not at the data.


QuoteLand temperatures broke the all-time warmest record," said Thomas Karl, director of NOAA's National Centers for Environmental Information, adding that the record for warmest month was broken in 10 of the last 12 months.



However, Karl also stated that 2015 was not the hottest year in the lower troposphere, the lowest section of the Earth's atmosphere, despite what could be an historically strong El Nino causing warmer-than-average temperatures.



According to satellite data that measures temperatures in the lower troposhere, 2015 was only the third warmest year on record, he said.



"We expected about 50 percent stronger response in the atmosphere because of El Nino," Karl told reporters, explaining that there was "very little response in the satellite and weather balloon data."



"There's no record in general in the lower atmosphere... but stay tuned for 2016," he said, explaining that "warmth occurs after the beginning of a subsequent calendar year."



Gavin Schmidt, director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, concurred, adding that because 2016 started with "a very strong El Nino, we expect it to be an exceeding warm year."



An analysis of the satellite data by John Christy, director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama/Huntsville, and his colleague, Roy Spencer, also found that 2015 was just the third warmest year on record - behind 1998 and 2010.

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Bricktop

Quote from: "Shen Li"Why the fuck is an ignorant, lying, dunce like Dicaprio addressing the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland?


Is that true??

Anonymous

Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "Shen Li"Why the fuck is an ignorant, lying, dunce like Dicaprio addressing the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland?


Is that true??

Yep. He was calling other people greedy too just like he did when he addressed the UN. You see, it's ok for ultra-rich celebutards to live opulent lifestyles with massive carbon footprints, but if you take a couple of trips a year you are greedy.

Bricktop

That's a good, and serious question.



My simple answer is...I don't know.



There seems to be some doubt over the methodologies used to measure the temperature of the planet. Geologists debate that it cannot be measured by space based instruments.



NASA claims it to be most accurate.



Yet so much doubt exists.



I won't argue with their conclusions, simply because I am completely unqualified to do so. I will agree, anecdotally, that this summer in Oz has been a searing bitch!!!

Anonymous

Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
Quote from: "Shen Li"Why the fuck is an ignorant, lying, dunce like Dicaprio addressing the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland?


Is that true??

He makes movies, so of course the World Economic Forum wants him to speak.

Romero

You don't know if the world's foremost scientific and meteorological agencies are valid sources?



Do you know of any valid sources on this subject or are you just going with your gut feeling?

Anonymous

Ten Years Ago This Week, Al Gore Gave The Earth Ten Years To Do What He Says

Ten grim (but highly profitable) years ago, Al Gore gave us all a deadline. Now we have to live with what we've done. Or, more precisely, what we haven't done. At least we won't have long to live with our regrets as a species.
QuoteFormer Vice President Al Gore is not all that comfortable being a star of the Sundance Film Festival. He's far more concerned that the celebrity watchers hear what he has to say.

The former vice president came to town for the premiere of "An Inconvenient Truth," a documentary chronicling what has become his crusade since losing the 2000 presidential election: Educating the masses that global warming is about to toast our ecology and our way of life...

And politicians and corporations have been ignoring the issue for decades, to the point that unless drastic measures to reduce greenhouse gases are taken within the next 10 years, the world will reach a point of no return, Gore said.



President of the Environment Al Gore did his best, but by his own metric, he has failed utterly. It's too late now. All his efforts have been for naught.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/26/ten-years-ago-this-week-al-gore-gave-the-earth-ten-years-to-do-what-he-says/">http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/26/ten-y ... t-he-says/">http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/26/ten-years-ago-this-week-al-gore-gave-the-earth-ten-years-to-do-what-he-says/


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reel

Quote from: "Mr Crowley"
There seems to be some doubt over the methodologies used to measure the temperature of the planet. Geologists debate that it cannot be measured by space based instruments.



NASA claims it to be most accurate.




NOAA doesn't use space based instruments.  They most likely have the most complete and accurate database sets in the world for land and ocean temperatures.  NASA saying it is one thing, NOAA another, and both independently coming to the same conclusion using completely different methodologies...?

Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li"Ten Years Ago This Week, Al Gore Gave The Earth Ten Years To Do What He Says

Ten grim (but highly profitable) years ago, Al Gore gave us all a deadline. Now we have to live with what we've done. Or, more precisely, what we haven't done. At least we won't have long to live with our regrets as a species.
QuoteFormer Vice President Al Gore is not all that comfortable being a star of the Sundance Film Festival. He's far more concerned that the celebrity watchers hear what he has to say.

The former vice president came to town for the premiere of "An Inconvenient Truth," a documentary chronicling what has become his crusade since losing the 2000 presidential election: Educating the masses that global warming is about to toast our ecology and our way of life...

And politicians and corporations have been ignoring the issue for decades, to the point that unless drastic measures to reduce greenhouse gases are taken within the next 10 years, the world will reach a point of no return, Gore said.



President of the Environment Al Gore did his best, but by his own metric, he has failed utterly. It's too late now. All his efforts have been for naught.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/26/ten-years-ago-this-week-al-gore-gave-the-earth-ten-years-to-do-what-he-says/">http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/26/ten-y ... t-he-says/">http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/26/ten-years-ago-this-week-al-gore-gave-the-earth-ten-years-to-do-what-he-says/


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Last year was a strong El Nino year, no doubt about it. The first half of this year will be a continuation of last. Expect in January of 2017 there will be stats claiming this was the hottest year on record and man made activity is responsible for it.

RW

What I want to know is why is there so much debate and skepticism around climate science?  It has a "the earth is flat" feel to it.
Beware of Gaslighters!

Anonymous

^^One would think 2015 would be a warmer year than what is was when you consider how the strength of this El Nino.

reel

Because we're just SO over science.  Now is the golden age of the conspiracy theory.  NOAA and NASA?  They are in league with the lizardmen who want to take away my freedom to pour sufuric acid into my local streams and ponds!  This random graph I finded on the interwebz is the real source fo TRUTH!!11

Anonymous

Quote from: "reel"Because we're just SO over science.  Now is the golden age of the conspiracy theory.  NOAA and NASA?  They are in league with the lizardmen who want to take away my freedom to pour sufuric acid into my local streams and ponds!  This random graph I finded on the interwebz is the real source fo TRUTH!!11

Hello reel, it's nice to see you here again.

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