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You are right on our failed system (http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/">See Canada's ranking) .. while allowing that politics, personal likes and dislikes and prejudice  plays a role especially for large countries with outfits like the WHO
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Bricktop

Firstly, that is a UN ranking, and thus its reliability is dubious.



Secondly, publishing a ranking WITHOUT stating the criterion upon which those ranks were calculate further adds to the sniff of subjectivity. I note Switzerland is 20th. I once fell ill with salmonella poisoning there (a fact which on its own is rather disconcerting) and was hospitalised for three days. I discharged myself without knowing what I was suffering from. The closest they got was "peritonitis".



I returned to the UK, where I was accurately diagnosed and treated within a day.



There was nothing notable about Swiss health care. On the other hand, UK health care has always been first class. As has Australian.

Chuck Bronson

Quote from: "cc"You are right on our failed system (http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/">See Canada's ranking) .. while allowing that politics, personal likes and dislikes and prejudice  plays a role especially for large countries with outfits like the WHO

I think Canada is actually much worse than that list depicts.  The US system is clearly better than Canada's, even though Canada ranks higher on that list...

Bricktop


Chuck Bronson

Quote from: "Bricktop"By what criteria?

I can state that I have a step-Uncle that was born and raised here, but he ended up meeting an American teacher (don't know how, and yes, she is extremely left-wing as could be expected, but he is not), and he's now a US citizen living in Iowa or somewhere around there, so has seen both systems up close and personal.



When he was in town a couple of years back, I asked him which system is better in his opinion...  He states the US system is better.

Bricktop

That's nice.



By what criteria. What is it about that question you find difficulty with?

Chuck Bronson

Quote from: "Bricktop"That's nice.

By what criteria. What is it about that question you find difficulty with?

If you have difficulties with my posts, which apparently you do all the fucking time, I'm pretty much done with you and your fucking stupidity here.



You now go on ignore, which I should have done ages ago, as I did with Oscar.



Go fuck yourself, idiot.

Wazzzup

New Governor of Florida,Ron DeSantis fires Scott Israel, the Sheriff of Broward county, whose deputies bungled the parkland shooting so badly.



https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-ne-ron-desantis-scott-israel-decision-20190110-story.html">https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/brow ... story.html">https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-ne-ron-desantis-scott-israel-decision-20190110-story.html


QuoteGov. Ron DeSantis removed Broward Sheriff Scott Israel from office Friday, replacing him after 10 months of turmoil spawned by the slaughter of 17 staff and students in Parkland.



"I have no interest in dancing on Scott Israel's political grave," DeSantis said of the Democratic former sheriff, "but suffice it to say the massacre might never have happened had Broward had better leadership in the sheriff's department."



In his executive order, the governor cited Israel for incompetence and neglect of duty. DeSantis said Israel "egregiously failed in his duties" by not properly training deputies, and not maintaining "a culture of vigilance and thoroughness," among other weaknesses.



The suspension caps a nearly year-long series of revelations that exposed the failure of Broward sheriff's deputies to run in to save children at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. Some deputies said they couldn't remember when they'd last been trained to handle an active shooter, even though the agency had a confused, chaotic response to a mass shooting at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport in 2017.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Wazzzup"New Governor of Florida,Ron DeSantis fires Scott Israel, the Sheriff of Broward county, whose deputies bungled the parkland shooting so badly.



https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-ne-ron-desantis-scott-israel-decision-20190110-story.html">https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/brow ... story.html">https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-ne-ron-desantis-scott-israel-decision-20190110-story.html


QuoteGov. Ron DeSantis removed Broward Sheriff Scott Israel from office Friday, replacing him after 10 months of turmoil spawned by the slaughter of 17 staff and students in Parkland.



"I have no interest in dancing on Scott Israel's political grave," DeSantis said of the Democratic former sheriff, "but suffice it to say the massacre might never have happened had Broward had better leadership in the sheriff's department."



In his executive order, the governor cited Israel for incompetence and neglect of duty. DeSantis said Israel "egregiously failed in his duties" by not properly training deputies, and not maintaining "a culture of vigilance and thoroughness," among other weaknesses.



The suspension caps a nearly year-long series of revelations that exposed the failure of Broward sheriff's deputies to run in to save children at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. Some deputies said they couldn't remember when they'd last been trained to handle an active shooter, even though the agency had a confused, chaotic response to a mass shooting at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport in 2017.

Scott Israel deserved to be fired.

Bricktop

Not before time.



That clown should have been sacked the day after that debacle.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"Not before time.



That clown should have been sacked the day after that debacle.

In Canada and the USA, it's not easy to terminate a policeman.

Bricktop

He would have been on a different employment contract, in which he can be removed by Government decree.

Wazzzup

Quote from: "Bricktop"He would have been on a different employment contract, in which he can be removed by Government decree.
I am surprised he was able to be removed since he is an elected official.n  I didn't know that could be done.



Apparently he is not going quietly



https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article224314950.html">https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/ ... 14950.html">https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article224314950.html


QuoteFlanked by members of a local African-American faith community, a defiant Scott Israel defended himself against allegations of incompetence on Friday and made clear he would fight his suspension on any front necessary — whether before the Florida Senate or in state or federal court.



Israel, 62, a two-term Democratic sheriff of Broward County, was suspended by Gov. Ron DeSantis three days after the new Republican governor was sworn into office.



But Israel, clad in a suit and tie rather than his usual sheriff's uniform, said DeSantis' actions were motivated by politics, not facts.



His lawyer, Stuart Kaplan, said that not only would Israel fight the governor's order, but he would run for re-election when his term ends in 2020.



Kaplan said that they were still exploring avenues to challenge the suspension, which the governor issued at his own news conference in Fort Lauderdale about an hour before.  


Not an ounce of shame.



BTW I found these pictures by the media somewhat curious.



https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/t74yyq/picture224330005/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/AP_19011817821729">

https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/jnpxwp/picture224330010/alternates/FREE_1140/AP_19011832954522">https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news ... 1832954522">https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/jnpxwp/picture224330010/alternates/FREE_1140/AP_19011832954522[/img]

[size=85]Suspended Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel, center, listens to comments by his attorney at a news conference after

new Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis suspended Israel, Friday, Jan. 11, 2019, in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., over his handling of the

massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.




It's almost like he's playing the race card even though he's white :laugh3:

Bricktop

He's an incompetent goof that cannot accept responsibility for his failures.

Gaon

Quote from: "Wazzzup"
Quote from: "Bricktop"He would have been on a different employment contract, in which he can be removed by Government decree.
I am surprised he was able to be removed since he is an elected official.n  I didn't know that could be done.



Apparently he is not going quietly



https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article224314950.html">https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/ ... 14950.html">https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article224314950.html


QuoteFlanked by members of a local African-American faith community, a defiant Scott Israel defended himself against allegations of incompetence on Friday and made clear he would fight his suspension on any front necessary — whether before the Florida Senate or in state or federal court.



Israel, 62, a two-term Democratic sheriff of Broward County, was suspended by Gov. Ron DeSantis three days after the new Republican governor was sworn into office.



But Israel, clad in a suit and tie rather than his usual sheriff's uniform, said DeSantis' actions were motivated by politics, not facts.



His lawyer, Stuart Kaplan, said that not only would Israel fight the governor's order, but he would run for re-election when his term ends in 2020.



Kaplan said that they were still exploring avenues to challenge the suspension, which the governor issued at his own news conference in Fort Lauderdale about an hour before.  


Not an ounce of shame.



BTW I found these pictures by the media somewhat curious.



https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/t74yyq/picture224330005/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1140/AP_19011817821729">

https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/jnpxwp/picture224330010/alternates/FREE_1140/AP_19011832954522">https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news ... 1832954522">https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/jnpxwp/picture224330010/alternates/FREE_1140/AP_19011832954522[/img]


He's an opportunist. He will use whatever he can.
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