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Renee

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Quote from: "Odinson"Why can´t the nigger loving liberals move to african jungle... It´s like nigger heaven in there.



Not that I don´t like paying for some useless limping niggers and a bunch of fatherless biracial babies sprung out by walking white diabetes´s aka fat white whales.


A better question is; why can't ignorant, racist, little man-boy, assholes like you just shut the fuck up?


How am I ignorant? Are they not over 90% unemployed? Are they not dominating the rape stats? Are they not dominating the STD stats?

Are they not liberals/commies/hippies by default?



Shouting racism in todays athmosphere is the easiest way but that doesn´t solve the problem now does it...



When a fawcett is leaking, do you want to fix it or do you just pay the excess amount of money forever?


Yeah know, you CAN get your point across and not use all those racist terms that make you look like an uneducated, ignorant, scumbag. Truth be told, I'm not exactly fond of where the black community as a whole has landed itself in recent years and I despise the culture of ignorance and violence and misogyny that they so openly worship but I can express my displeasure and criticism without looking like a FUCKING member of the KKK.

 

I guess that's the real difference between an intelligent, rational, and educated person and someone like you.
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


Renee

Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
It's funny that Romero feigns concern for people pouring milkshakes for a living because those are exactly the kinda jobs created under Obama's incredibly inept leadership.

 

Liberals don't want people to succeed because then they become the enemy. When you start making money and you start to see that your tax burden is increasing with each raise in pay you receive you start to resent the fact that you are being ripped off so that others can sit around and do nothing. For most people with a brain, that's when all that liberal horseshit you are fed in school about leveling the playing field and fairness at the expense of people who succeed goes down the shitter.



Liberals don't want people to make money, they want them to make just enough to survive and keep voting for the handout gang and their bankrupt ideology. Liberals think the pursuit of personal wealth is evil and amoral especially if you don't feel like giving half of it away to those who stick their hands out every chance they get. Romero is an example of exactly that. He thinks if the minimum wage is raised in the US is raised to $12 dollars an hour everything will be A-Okay. Of course it will because it will keep hundreds of thousands of people IN minimum wage jobs. He knows that there are tons of low info liberal public school educated voters out there that think if you can make $12 or $14 dollars an hour at your job at the car wash and then augment it with something like food stamps, why would you look for something better. You will keep surviving at a subsistence level and keep blaming the rich for you predicament and keep voting the liberal ticket.

 

Sorry to go off on a rant but that's the simple truth. That's exactly how those people think and that's exactly how they roll. They want a population that is barely surviving and beholden to the federal government

The effect of raising minimum wage will be fewer people being hired in entry-level jobs and more going out of business signs placed on little mom and pop shops.


That's the reality but that's not how people like Romero think.
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


Renee

Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"Liberals don't want people to succeed because then they become the enemy. When you start making money and you start to see that your tax burden is increasing with each raise in pay you receive you start to resent the fact that you are being ripped off so that others can sit around and do nothing. For most people with a brain, that's when all that liberal horseshit you are fed in school about leveling the playing field and fairness at the expense of people who succeed goes down the shitter.



Liberals don't want people to make money, they want them to make just enough to survive and keep voting for the handout gang and their bankrupt ideology. Liberals think the pursuit of personal wealth is evil and amoral especially if you don't feel like giving half of it away to those who stick their hands out every chance they get. Romero is an example of exactly that. He thinks if the minimum wage is raised in the US is raised to $12 dollars an hour everything will be A-Okay. Of course it will because it will keep hundreds of thousands of people IN minimum wage jobs. He knows that there are tons of low info liberal public school educated voters out there that think if you can make $12 or $14 dollars an hour at your job at the car wash and then augment it with something like food stamps, why would you look for something better. You will keep surviving at a subsistence level and keep blaming the rich for you predicament and keep voting the liberal ticket.



Sorry to go off on a rant but that's the simple truth. That's exactly how those people think and that's exactly how they roll. They want a population that is barely surviving and beholden to the federal government

So your argument against raising the minimum wage is liberals don't want people to make money. Classic.


Quote from: "Shen Li"The effect of raising minimum wage will be fewer people being hired in entry-level jobs and more going out of business signs placed on little mom and pop shops.

Unemployment is lower in Canada where the minimum wage is higher. Nobody in their right mind would argue that Canada's minimum wage should be a paltry $7.25/hour.


Unemployment is lower in Canada because you don't have a certain significant racial community that has a 16 to 20% unemployment rate. Unemployment is lower in Canada because you don't have illegals pouring across your borders in waves taking American jobs. The minimum wage has nothing to do with employment rates. The fact of the matter is that the US has 3 times the population of Canada and NO real job creation since the liberal Messiah took office.



BTW, you know damn well that liberals only want people to make just enough to survive. You clowns hate people who make more money than the average because it flies in the face of your philosophy of the level playing field. It's completely counter to your ideas of fairness and a financially equal society. You refuse to believe that the widening gap between the "haves" and "have nots" is caused by the fact that there are too many people that expect something for nothing. To you the rich are the bad guys. You think nothing of punishing people for their hard work or their ambition to succeed because you want a world where everyone rises up to the level of mediocrity and never goes any further.
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


Anonymous

Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
 

Liberals don't want people to succeed because then they become the enemy. When you start making money and you start to see that your tax burden is increasing with each raise in pay you receive you start to resent the fact that you are being ripped off so that others can sit around and do nothing. For most people with a brain, that's when all that liberal horseshit you are fed in school about leveling the playing field and fairness at the expense of people who succeed goes down the shitter.



Liberals don't want people to make money, they want them to make just enough to survive and keep voting for the handout gang and their bankrupt ideology. Liberals think the pursuit of personal wealth is evil and amoral especially if you don't feel like giving half of it away to those who stick their hands out every chance they get. Romero is an example of exactly that. He thinks if the minimum wage is raised in the US is raised to $12 dollars an hour everything will be A-Okay. Of course it will because it will keep hundreds of thousands of people IN minimum wage jobs. He knows that there are tons of low info liberal public school educated voters out there that think if you can make $12 or $14 dollars an hour at your job at the car wash and then augment it with something like food stamps, why would you look for something better. You will keep surviving at a subsistence level and keep blaming the rich for you predicament and keep voting the liberal ticket.

 

Sorry to go off on a rant but that's the simple truth. That's exactly how those people think and that's exactly how they roll. They want a population that is barely surviving and beholden to the federal government

The effect of raising minimum wage will be fewer people being hired in entry-level jobs and more going out of business signs placed on little mom and pop shops.


That's the reality but that's not how people like Romero think.

There are so many different things the prez and congress could be doing to stimulate GOOD job creation. Raising costs for mom and pop businesses is definitely not one of them.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Renee"Unemployment is lower in Canada because you don't have a certain significant racial community that has a 16 to 20% unemployment rate. Unemployment is lower in Canada because you don't have illegals pouring across your borders in waves taking American jobs. The minimum wage has nothing to do with employment rates. The fact of the matter is that the US has 3 times the population of Canada and NO real job creation since the liberal Messiah took office.

I am going to have to correct you on a few things here Renee.



The unemployment rate for Aboriginals in Canada was just under 15% in 2006. Our population is about 34 million while the USA is about 312 million. We also have a fair number of illegal workers in this country. Some industries like residential construction and landscaping in certain cities have large numbers of people working illegally.



I do agree though about Obama's abysmal record. He is the first prez to come out of recession without a single quarter of 4% growth. This is despite the boom in the natural resource sector in the USA.

Romero

Quote from: "Renee"Unemployment is lower in Canada because you don't have a certain significant racial community that has a 16 to 20% unemployment rate.



The fact of the matter is that the US has 3 times the population of Canada and NO real job creation since the liberal Messiah took office.

Which "significant racial community" is that? I don't see any race at 16-20% unemployment.



There have been more jobs created under Obama than by George W. Bush.

Renee

Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"Unemployment is lower in Canada because you don't have a certain significant racial community that has a 16 to 20% unemployment rate. Unemployment is lower in Canada because you don't have illegals pouring across your borders in waves taking American jobs. The minimum wage has nothing to do with employment rates. The fact of the matter is that the US has 3 times the population of Canada and NO real job creation since the liberal Messiah took office.

I am going to have to correct you on a few things here Renee.



The unemployment rate for Aboriginals in Canada was just under 15% in 2006. Our population is about 34 million while the USA is about 312 million. We also have a fair number of illegal workers in this country. Some industries like residential construction and landscaping in certain cities have large numbers of people working illegally.



I do agree though about Obama's abysmal record. He is the first prez to come out of recession without a single quarter of 4% growth. This is despite the boom in the natural resource sector in the USA.


Some industries? In the US it's just about ALL industries. I'm pretty sure Canada's illegal population doesn't even make a blip on the radar screen compared to the illegal population in the US. Not only that once many of the illegals come to the US and get a job they only work for a short time or work seasonal jobs and the rest of the time they jump on the unemployment and welfare rolls. Now you're probably thinking "Renee how can illegals collect unemployment and welfare?" Well they can and they do because all they need is a tax ID number or social security card and can show that they were once employed for the minimum time frame for eligibility.



It doesn't matter that their doc are false because the state unemployment agencies do not have the time or the manpower to check each and every application for fraud.



43% of all Food Stamps issued are to illegal aliens

41% of all unemployment checks issued in the U.S. are to illegal aliens

58% of all Welfare payments in the United States are issued to illegal aliens

https://wiki-land.wikispaces.com/Persuasive-+illegal+immigrants">https://wiki-land.wikispaces.com/Persua ... immigrants">https://wiki-land.wikispaces.com/Persuasive-+illegal+immigrants
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


Anonymous

Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"Unemployment is lower in Canada because you don't have a certain significant racial community that has a 16 to 20% unemployment rate.



The fact of the matter is that the US has 3 times the population of Canada and NO real job creation since the liberal Messiah took office.

Which "significant racial community" is that? I don't see any race currently at 16-20% unemployment.



There have been more jobs created under Obama than by George W. Bush.

That is grossly misleading and you know it. Bush left office at the height of the recession when jobs were being shed by the millions. Obama is the only president in history to oversee 54 consecutive months of unemployment over 7.5 percent. The highest unemployment rate during President Bush's entire eight years in office was his last month at 7.8%.



Again, Obama is the worst prez in US history.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"Unemployment is lower in Canada because you don't have a certain significant racial community that has a 16 to 20% unemployment rate. Unemployment is lower in Canada because you don't have illegals pouring across your borders in waves taking American jobs. The minimum wage has nothing to do with employment rates. The fact of the matter is that the US has 3 times the population of Canada and NO real job creation since the liberal Messiah took office.

I am going to have to correct you on a few things here Renee.



The unemployment rate for Aboriginals in Canada was just under 15% in 2006. Our population is about 34 million while the USA is about 312 million. We also have a fair number of illegal workers in this country. Some industries like residential construction and landscaping in certain cities have large numbers of people working illegally.



I do agree though about Obama's abysmal record. He is the first prez to come out of recession without a single quarter of 4% growth. This is despite the boom in the natural resource sector in the USA.


Some industries? In the US it's just about ALL industries. I'm pretty sure Canada's illegal population doesn't even make a blip on the radar screen compared to the illegal population in the US. Not only that once many of the illegals come to the US and get a job they only work for a short time or work seasonal jobs and the rest of the time they jump on the unemployment and welfare rolls. Now you're probably thinking "Renee how can illegals collect unemployment and welfare?" Well they can and they do because all they need is a tax ID number or social security card and can show that they were once employed for the minimum time frame for eligibility.



It doesn't matter that their doc are false because the state unemployment agencies do not have the time or the manpower to check each and every application for fraud.



43% of all Food Stamps issued are to illegal aliens

41% of all unemployment checks issued in the U.S. are to illegal aliens

58% of all Welfare payments in the United States are issued to illegal aliens
https://wiki-land.wikispaces.com/Persuasive-+illegal+immigrants">https://wiki-land.wikispaces.com/Persua ... immigrants">https://wiki-land.wikispaces.com/Persuasive-+illegal+immigrants

Oh fuck would I be pissed if I was an American citizen. As an immigrant to Canada I get really angry that people can use our refugee claimant system as backdoor entry into Canada. Should never be allowed to happen. I give kudos to the feds for at least trying to clamp down on that.

Renee

Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"Unemployment is lower in Canada because you don't have a certain significant racial community that has a 16 to 20% unemployment rate.



The fact of the matter is that the US has 3 times the population of Canada and NO real job creation since the liberal Messiah took office.

Which "significant racial community" is that? I don't see any race at 16-20% unemployment.



There have been more jobs created under Obama than by George W. Bush.


This from 2011 and things sure as shit haven't improved much in two years for blacks.



"While unemployment among the general population is about 9.1 percent, it's at 16.2 percent African Americans, and a bit higher still for African American males."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-20072425.html">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-20072425.html



"It soared over the first three years of Obama's first term to 16.7 percent by September 2011 (the worst jobless rate for black Americans since 1983). Unemployment among black teenagers exploded to 39.3 percent in July, 2012"



http://townhall.com/columnists/donaldlambro/2013/03/29/black-leaders-open-fire-on-obama-over-unemployment-n1552206/page/full">http://townhall.com/columnists/donaldla ... /page/full">http://townhall.com/columnists/donaldlambro/2013/03/29/black-leaders-open-fire-on-obama-over-unemployment-n1552206/page/full



BTW, most of the jobs created under Obama have been those minimum wage jobs that you have been crying about, oh and the others are part time jobs. Not only that the claim that under Obama more jobs have been created than under Bush is only a half-truth according to Politifact.com. It's a statement based on one metric of job creation and ignores the others that are less favorable. It's all leftwing word games designed to fool their low-info voter base.



http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/26/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-businesses-have-created-nearly-t/">http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... -nearly-t/">http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/26/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-businesses-have-created-nearly-t/
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


Romero

Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Romero"
Quote from: "Renee"Unemployment is lower in Canada because you don't have a certain significant racial community that has a 16 to 20% unemployment rate.



The fact of the matter is that the US has 3 times the population of Canada and NO real job creation since the liberal Messiah took office.

Which "significant racial community" is that? I don't see any race currently at 16-20% unemployment.



There have been more jobs created under Obama than by George W. Bush.

That is grossly misleading and you know it.

No it's not. Obama has created more jobs than GW Bush.


QuoteThe economy has added more jobs since Obama took office than it did in his predecessor's entire eight years in office.



http://www.factcheck.org/2013/04/obamas-numbers-quarterly-update/">//http://www.factcheck.org/2013/04/obamas-numbers-quarterly-update/

Quote from: "Renee"43% of all Food Stamps issued are to illegal aliens

41% of all unemployment checks issued in the U.S. are to illegal aliens

58% of all Welfare payments in the United States are issued to illegal aliens

https://wiki-land.wikispaces.com/Persuasive-+illegal+immigrants">https://wiki-land.wikispaces.com/Persua ... immigrants">https://wiki-land.wikispaces.com/Persuasive-+illegal+immigrants

Ugh. A bunch of anti-immigrant nonsense. Undocumented immigrants are not allowed to receive food stamps, unemployment checks or welfare. I can't believe you would fall for those ridiculous numbers.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Renee"["It soared over the first three years of Obama's first term to 16.7 percent by September 2011 (the worst jobless rate for black Americans since 1983). Unemployment among black teenagers exploded to 39.3 percent in July, 2012"



http://townhall.com/columnists/donaldlambro/2013/03/29/black-leaders-open-fire-on-obama-over-unemployment-n1552206/page/full">http://townhall.com/columnists/donaldla ... /page/full">http://townhall.com/columnists/donaldlambro/2013/03/29/black-leaders-open-fire-on-obama-over-unemployment-n1552206/page/full



BTW, most of the jobs created under Obama have been those minimum wage jobs that you have been crying about, oh and the others are part time jobs. Not only that the claim that under Obama more jobs have been created than under Bush is only a half-truth according to Politifact.com. It's a statement based on one metric of job creation and ignores the others that are less favorable. It's all leftwing word games designed to fool their low-info voter base.



http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/26/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-businesses-have-created-nearly-t/">http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... -nearly-t/">http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/26/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-businesses-have-created-nearly-t/

Bush's average black unemployment rate was 9.7 percent and an overall national average of 5.2 percent. Obama's lowest rate was 12.7 percent. When Bush was reelected unemployment was 5.4% while Odumbo was something like 8%.



The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports the monthly civilian labor force participation rate for April 2013 is stagnant at an abysmal 63.5 percent, close to the record low and 2.7 percent worse than Bush's average of 66.2 percent.

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/24693/images/obama-fail4-300x300.jpg">

Anonymous

The labour participation rate is lower under Obama and the unemployment rate higher.



Most of the jobs under Obomber have been low quality too.
QuoteWhen the payroll report was released last month, the world finally noticed what we had been saying for nearly three years: that the US was slowly being converted to a part-time worker society. This slow conversion accelerated drastically in the last few months, and especially in June, when part time jobs exploded higher by 360K while full time jobs dropped by 240K. In July we are sad to report that America's conversation to a part-time worker society is not "tapering": according to the Household Survey, of the 266K jobs created (note this number differs from the establishment survey), only 35% of jobs, or 92K, were full time. The rest were... not.
[/quote]

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/08/July%20Full%20Part%20time_0.jpg">

What is worse, however, is when one looks at job creation broken down by "quality" in all of 2013. The chart below does the bottom line some justice:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/08/Full%20Part%20time_0.jpg">

But what really shows what is going on in America at least in 2013, is the following summary: of the 953K jobs "created" so far in 2013, only 23%, or 222K, were full-time. Part-time jobs? 731K of the 953K total.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/08/2103%20Full%20Part%20time_0.jpg">



When it comes to economy, debt and jobs Odumbo is the WORST prez in US history.

Renee

Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"["It soared over the first three years of Obama's first term to 16.7 percent by September 2011 (the worst jobless rate for black Americans since 1983). Unemployment among black teenagers exploded to 39.3 percent in July, 2012"



http://townhall.com/columnists/donaldlambro/2013/03/29/black-leaders-open-fire-on-obama-over-unemployment-n1552206/page/full">http://townhall.com/columnists/donaldla ... /page/full">http://townhall.com/columnists/donaldlambro/2013/03/29/black-leaders-open-fire-on-obama-over-unemployment-n1552206/page/full



BTW, most of the jobs created under Obama have been those minimum wage jobs that you have been crying about, oh and the others are part time jobs. Not only that the claim that under Obama more jobs have been created than under Bush is only a half-truth according to Politifact.com. It's a statement based on one metric of job creation and ignores the others that are less favorable. It's all leftwing word games designed to fool their low-info voter base.



http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/26/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-businesses-have-created-nearly-t/">http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... -nearly-t/">http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/26/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-businesses-have-created-nearly-t/

Bush's average black unemployment rate was 9.7 percent and an overall national average of 5.2 percent. Obama's lowest rate was 12.7 percent. When Bush was reelected unemployment was 5.4% while Odumbo was something like 8%.



The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports the monthly civilian labor force participation rate for April 2013 is stagnant at an abysmal 63.5 percent, close to the record low and 2.7 percent worse than Bush's average of 66.2 percent.

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/24693/images/obama-fail4-300x300.jpg">


What Romero doesn't get or doesn't want to get is that even in a good economy black unemployment is on average 10% or higher in most states. So given the economic times we are in now an unemployment rate of over 16% is not surprising. In fact the number could very well be a conservative estimate and the actual number is probably a lot higher.
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


Anonymous

^^I have read that if the US calculated it's unemployment rate the same way we do the actual overall unemployment rate would indeed be double digits.