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Quote from: cc post_id=372098 time=1595275269 user_id=88
Today from all directions:



https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53463403">BBC - UK accuses China of 'gross' human rights abuses against Uighurs



UK Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab has accused China of "gross and egregious" human rights abuses against its Uighur population and said sanctions against those responsible cannot be ruled out.



Reports of forced sterilisation and wider persecution of the Muslim group were "reminiscent of something not seen for a long time", he told the BBC.



The UK would work with its allies to take appropriate action, he insisted.



China's UK ambassador said talk of concentration camps was "fake".



Liu Xiaoming told the BBC's Andrew Marr that the Uighurs received the same treatment under the law as other ethnic groups in his country.



Shown drone footage that appears to show Uighurs being blindfolded and led to trains, and which has been authenticated by Australian security services, he said he "did not know" what the video was showing and "sometimes you have a transfer of prisoners, in any country".



"There is no such concentration camps in Xinjiang," he added. "There's a lot of fake accusations against China."



It is believed that up to a million Uighur people have been detained over the past few years in what the Chinese state defines as "re-education camps".

The UK has child grooming. Any country that looks the other way while children are trafficked into sexual slavery is in no fucking position ti judge any country about human rights. The fucking nerve of Britain.

Anonymous

You're comparing apples to oranges Shen..



What's happening in Xinjiang is being carried out by the government and what is happening in the UK is organized crime.

Anonymous

John McCallum was China's ambassador to Canada, not the other way around.



The following is an excerpt from the book Hidden Hand by Clive Hamilton and Mareike Hamilton.



When Huawei's chief financial officer, Meng Wanzhou, was arrested in Canada



in December 2018, on an extradition request from the United States, she was accused of bank fraud, among other things. At the height of the angry diplomatic fight that ensued — in which Beijing made dire threats to Ottawa rather than Washington and jailed two Canadian citizens on trumped-up charges — Canada's ambassador to China, John McCallum, gave a press conference to Chinese-language media in Ontario in which he offered advice to



Meng as to how she could mount the best legal defence against extradition.



Already well known as a friend of China — he'd recently said that Canada had more in common with China than with the United States — McCallum listed what he saw as serious flaws in the extradition case.



Some suggested the ambassador sounded as if he were speaking for the government of China rather than defending Canada's position. In Beijing, the



Global Times praised McCallum for his 'truth-telling' and reproached Canadians for their lack of 'moral righteousness'. After widespread criticism of McCallum at home, his former chief of staff characterised his speech as a 'verbal miscue' and defended him as 'a fundamentally decent and optimistic man', a longstanding Sinophile who'd travelled often to China over three decades — all of which goes a long way towards explaining how the ambassador could have fallen victim to the CCP's psychological techniques.



A few days later McCallum followed up his advice to Meng on how to fight her extradition by saying it would be good for Canada to release her, thereby privileging the pacification of Beijing over Canada's legal obligation to the United States. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was forced to sack him, leaving observers to puzzle over how such an experienced politician and diplomat could misfire so badly.



Others like McCallum who are targets of the CCP are wooed not by inducements, but by playing to their vanity and their desire to be agreeable. As one headline writer sardonically put it, 'I think that Chinese official really likes me!'



One who did recognise why McCallum was saying the things he did in support of Meng Wanzhou was former Mexican ambassador to Beijing, Jorge Guajardo. He had been groomed in the same way.



Envoys new to Beijing are isolated from senior Chinese officials. After a time, a message is sent that a high-ranking official wishes to meet them. They meet and are told they have a 'unique understanding of the nuance and delicacy of the party's position'. They begin to see themselves as 'special'. They are granted rare access to top leaders and believe they've been entrusted with an unusual insight into the inner workings of Chinese politics.



Of course, other envoys are being groomed to believe the same. As special friends of China, the envoys' advice to their masters back home reflects their unique insight, and is exactly the advice Beijing wants them to communicate.

Anonymous


Anonymous

Poll: Majority Of Voters Say China Needs To Help Pay For Coronavirus Pandemic



https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/28/poll-majority-of-voters-blame-china-pay-for-coronavirus-pandemic/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=17NvsfkECQONCh_nWf6VLpRlTtYrsGNLxvodEYtz">https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/28/poll ... NLxvodEYtz">https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/28/poll-majority-of-voters-blame-china-pay-for-coronavirus-pandemic/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=17NvsfkECQONCh_nWf6VLpRlTtYrsGNLxvodEYtz



According to a recent poll, a majority of American voters believe China is primarily to blame for coronavirus and should help pay for the global costs of the pandemic.



A poll released Tuesday by Rasmussen Reports found that 53% of likely voters thought China should help pay at least some of the financial costs associated with the coronavirus pandemic. Another 31% of likely voters said China should not have to pay, while 16% said they were unsure.

Anonymous

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Poll: Majority Of Voters Say China Needs To Help Pay For Coronavirus Pandemic



https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/28/poll-majority-of-voters-blame-china-pay-for-coronavirus-pandemic/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=17NvsfkECQONCh_nWf6VLpRlTtYrsGNLxvodEYtz">https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/28/poll ... NLxvodEYtz">https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/28/poll-majority-of-voters-blame-china-pay-for-coronavirus-pandemic/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=17NvsfkECQONCh_nWf6VLpRlTtYrsGNLxvodEYtz



According to a recent poll, a majority of American voters believe China is primarily to blame for coronavirus and should help pay for the global costs of the pandemic.



A poll released Tuesday by Rasmussen Reports found that 53% of likely voters thought China should help pay at least some of the financial costs associated with the coronavirus pandemic. Another 31% of likely voters said China should not have to pay, while 16% said they were unsure.

They have a moral responsibility to pay. They caused this global pandemic.


cc

Only expedience .. whatever helps the CCP is Okey Dokey



Shen does have a point in that the UK system deliberately looked the other way so as to not appear anti-islamic ... something they really need to be if they wish to ultimately survive
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

The CCP will do whatever they feel is necessary to ensure the survival of their dynasty.

cc

I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

Things sure are heating up - Seems at least someone "gets it"



Chinese State Media Vows Tech 'Mortal Combat' in Response to TikTok Buyout Talks

https://newzealand.shafaqna.com/EN/AL/695239">https://newzealand.shafaqna.com/EN/AL/695239



Chinese state media has threatened retaliation after the Trump administration compelled short-video app TikTok to find an American buyer, citing national security concerns about the popular platform s Chinese ownership. In an editorial published on Aug. 4, state-run outlet China Daily said the Chinese regime would not accept the theft of a Chinese technology company
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

Beijing threatens retaliation over U.S. actions against Chinese journalists

https://www.theguardian.pe.ca/news/world/beijing-threatens-retaliation-over-us-actions-against-chinese-journalists-481011/">https://www.theguardian.pe.ca/news/worl ... ts-481011/">https://www.theguardian.pe.ca/news/world/beijing-threatens-retaliation-over-us-actions-against-chinese-journalists-481011/



BEIJING (Reuters) - China said on Tuesday it will retaliate if Washington continues what it described as hostile actions against Chinese journalists based in the United States.



Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin said the ministry understands that no Chinese journalist in the United States have had their application for a visa renewal approved since Washington in May moved to limit their visas to 90 days with an option for an extension.



(Reporting by Yew Lun Tian; writing by Se Young Lee; Editing by Andrew Heavens)
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=374077 time=1596592834 user_id=88
Things sure are heating up - Seems at least someone "gets it"



Chinese State Media Vows Tech 'Mortal Combat' in Response to TikTok Buyout Talks

https://newzealand.shafaqna.com/EN/AL/695239">https://newzealand.shafaqna.com/EN/AL/695239



Chinese state media has threatened retaliation after the Trump administration compelled short-video app TikTok to find an American buyer, citing national security concerns about the popular platform s Chinese ownership. In an editorial published on Aug. 4, state-run outlet China Daily said the Chinese regime would not accept the theft of a Chinese technology company

I don't use Tik Tok, but my daughter does..



I would never download an app from China.

Frood

My son visited China for a school trip. I wouldn't be caught dead there....
Blahhhhhh...

cc

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/08/04/hhs-secretary-alex-azar-lead-delegation-taiwan-in-first-visit-by-us-hhs-secretary.html">HHS Secretary Alex Azar to Lead Delegation to Taiwan in First Visit by a U.S. HHS Secretary



In the coming days, U.S. Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Alex Azar will lead a delegation to Taiwan. This marks the first visit to Taiwan by an HHS Secretary, the first Cabinet member to visit in six years, and the highest level visit by a U.S. Cabinet official since 1979.



"Taiwan has been a model of transparency and cooperation in global health during the COVID-19 pandemic and long before it," said HHS Secretary Alex Azar. "I look forward to conveying President Trump's support for Taiwan's global health leadership and underscoring our shared belief that free and democratic societies are the best model for protecting and promoting health. This trip represents an opportunity to strengthen our economic and public health cooperation with Taiwan, especially as the United States and other countries work to strengthen and diversify our sources for crucial medical products."



Secretary Azar's historic visit will strengthen the U.S.-Taiwan partnership and enhance U.S-Taiwan cooperation to combat the global COVID-19 pandemic. Taiwan's role in the international community is critical, as demonstrated by its remarkable success battling COVID-19 as a free and transparent democratic society.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell