Covid and lock downs in a nutshell

[cc]

Here's how you do it when the goin gets tough



Resign



https://globalnews.ca/news/7344771/canadas-public-health-agency-president-resigns-amid-rising-coronavirus-cases/?utm_source=NewsletterNational&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020">Canada's Public Health Agency president resigns amid rising coronavirus cases



Tina Namiesniowski, the president of the Public Health Agency of Canada, has resigned leaving the department in charge of leading country's response to the coronavirus without a leader, amid rising cases of the virus in some of Canada's most populous provinces.



In a letter to staff released by Health Canada, Namiesniowski said she needed "to take a break" and "step aside so someone else can step up" to lead the public health agency tasked with coordinating Canada's response to COVID-19. Namiesniowski was appointed to the job in May 2019.



Her resignation comes as caseloads of the virus have surged in Ontario, B.C. and Quebec and criticism about the federal government's response to the virus in the early stages of the pandemic has mounted.

[BEnzo]

Benzo is correct, lockdowns work. We went fast and very hard. Our boarder is locked still.  We now can do anything we want and travel inside our border bearing in mind our state is the size of 5 Texas states. Our economy is growing and we are not in a recession unlike the eastern side of Australia. IF our mines were affected by covid-19, then Australia would completely collapse.



Our Premier, Labor, Mark McGowan should be ruler of the world. He was a former Royal Australian Naval Officer who has heroically protected us all.



And young people have had Covid-19 more than once so the immunity theory is bullshit... hths

No point arguing, Cas. They don't accept facts and refuse to post any supporting facts of their own. All I know is I will be in a Sports bar this weekend wearing a mask shooting some darts and stick drinking Frosty's watching Football and feeling safe but being cautious.

Social distance, be safe-

I'm out of this one.

peace-

[Frood]

Benzo is correct, lockdowns work. We went fast and very hard. Our boarder is locked still.  We now can do anything we want and travel inside our border bearing in mind our state is the size of 5 Texas states. Our economy is growing and we are not in a recession unlike the eastern side of Australia. IF our mines were affected by covid-19, then Australia would completely collapse.



Our Premier, Labor, Mark McGowan should be ruler of the world. He was a former Royal Australian Naval Officer who has heroically protected us all.



And young people have had Covid-19 more than once so the immunity theory is bullshit... hths

No point arguing, Cas. They don't accept facts and refuse to post any supporting facts of their own. All I know is I will be in a Sports bar this weekend wearing a mask shooting some darts and stick drinking Frosty's watching Football and feeling safe but being cautious.

Social distance, be safe-

I'm out of this one.

peace-

Lock downs don't work. Further waves are inevitable:



https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/12616632">https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.ne ... e/12616632">https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/12616632

[Anonymous]

Also Covid-19 causes liver, kidney, lung and brain damage which is going to cause Major and very expensive health problems down the track.



We can't have a sick workforce.... you know, the guys that have to go out in all weathers to dig ditches and fix power lines. You mlght be able to push your pen around your desk but try fixing the plumbing when the plumber can't get to you because he is sick.



Victoria failed their hotel quarantine by using private contractors who failed in their jobs to the point of even having sex with the quarantined and so the catchy virus spread out into the community. Another right-wing notion that privitization of government services were going to save the world and failed to deliver.

People with kidney, liver,heart and brain issues died because their surgeries/treatments were cancelled and or postponed because of lock downs.

[Anonymous]

Benzo is correct, lockdowns work. We went fast and very hard. Our boarder is locked still.  We now can do anything we want and travel inside our border bearing in mind our state is the size of 5 Texas states. Our economy is growing and we are not in a recession unlike the eastern side of Australia. IF our mines were affected by covid-19, then Australia would completely collapse.



Our Premier, Labor, Mark McGowan should be ruler of the world. He was a former Royal Australian Naval Officer who has heroically protected us all.



And young people have had Covid-19 more than once so the immunity theory is bullshit... hths

BEnzo is incorrect. He doesn't understand science. Forcing people apart delays the inevitable. Most of the world has had lock downs, including Victoria and infections continue to rise. It is not a cure or even a real solution. What is has caused is excess deaths not related to COVID across the Western world and mass starvation in the developing world.



The only thing that works is immunity. You can try to achieve that the way India is doing through herd immunity(which I think is extremely dangerous) or a vaccine. As whole sectors of the global economy(tourism for example) are still shut down, we know lock downs neither work nor are they anything other than a delay of the inevitable. The world will only be reopened entirely when there is immunity. Lock downs are not immunity.

There's no substitute for it..



There seven and a half million active cases of COVID worldwide..



Hand washing, sanitizer, masks, and plastic dividers are good ideas, but they aren't treatments nor are they a vaccine.

[cc]

In New England we kicked the shit out of Covid. The rest of America should take note.

WTF are you trying to sell us?????, you snake-oil salesman





Using your own link, today, 55,527 total cases, 4,492 total died    .. 77 in hospital now ..  for a rinky dink baby state of 3 1/2 million ????



Your numbers are terrible   cases and deaths / million (or per any number you wish to compare by) are near the worse in your country



SHAME



Hell!! Our province is 1 1/2 X your population & we have 7,800 cases (1/7 th) total, 223 (1/20th) deaths total, !/2 the number in hospital today and less new cases

And we have opened up greatly ffs



Get a grip - You guys are up there with the worse of the worse





You sir, are full of 2 things - 1. yourself, and 2. shit

[caskur]

Also Covid-19 causes liver, kidney, lung and brain damage which is going to cause Major and very expensive health problems down the track.



We can't have a sick workforce.... you know, the guys that have to go out in all weathers to dig ditches and fix power lines. You mlght be able to push your pen around your desk but try fixing the plumbing when the plumber can't get to you because he is sick.



Victoria failed their hotel quarantine by using private contractors who failed in their jobs to the point of even having sex with the quarantined and so the catchy virus spread out into the community. Another right-wing notion that privitization of government services were going to save the world and failed to deliver.

People with kidney, liver,heart and brain issues died because their surgeries/treatments were cancelled and or postponed because of lock downs.

no, I am not talking about people with pre-conditions. The actual virus attacks healthy people's organs.

[BEnzo]

In New England we kicked the shit out of Covid. The rest of America should take note.

WTF are you trying to sell us?????, you snake-oil salesman





Using your own link, today, 55,527 total cases, 4,492 total died    .. 77 in hospital now ..  for a rinky dink baby state of 3 1/2 million ????



Your numbers are terrible   cases and deaths / million (or per any number you wish to compare by) are near the worse in your country



SHAME



Hell!! Our province is 1 1/2 X your population & we have 7,800 cases (1/7 th) total, 223 (1/20th) deaths total, !/2 the number in hospital today and less new cases

And we have opened up greatly ffs



Get a grip - You guys are up there with the worse of the worse





You sir, are full of 2 things - 1. yourself, and 2. shit

Have a nice evening.

I said peace-

[Anonymous]

All contagious diseases have disappeared under lockdown, and some those diseases killed people .  Regular flus and colds cost the community billions. Crime went down, car accident went down.



The wretched ccp went full lockdown because they knew it worked but really everyone should have followed the Taiwanese and worn masks right from the start.

There are vaccines for the flu and medicine for colds.



 I would have recommended a lock down of vulnerable populations and no quarantine, but mandatory masks for healthy people.

[caskur]

I don't care what you all do overseas or outside my state... Our Labor prem protected us like a Boss and our economy is thriving and completely negates everything said on this site so I can't be bothered informing any of you anymore.



I know a couple of people who got the flu after flu shots... So there you go.



Vaccinations aren't as great as they're made out to be... You still catch the diseases... and you can still die after being vaccinated. But death is kind... brain damage is not.

[Frood]

Swamp Logic....

[Anonymous]

I don't care what you all do overseas or outside my state... Our Labor prem protected us like a Boss and our economy is thriving and completely negates everything said on this site so I can't be bothered informing any of you anymore.



I know a couple of people who got the flu after flu shots... So there you go.



Vaccinations aren't as great as they're made out to be... You still catch the diseases... and you can still die after being vaccinated. But death is kind... brain damage is not.

WA's economy will contract 3.1 per cent predicted in the 2020–21 financial year as the economy takes a $12 billion hit. The State Government is bracing for a total of $12 billion to be wiped from the WA economy over the 15 months from April, and expects a $1.8 billion reduction in government revenue through to the end of the next financial year.



Treasurer Ben Wyatt said "The impact of the pandemic and social restrictions to contain its spread have been devastating for Western Australian businesses and households,"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-28/coronavirus-to-send-wa-economy-into-recession-ben-wyatt-confirms/12295316">https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-28/ ... s/12295316">https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-28/coronavirus-to-send-wa-economy-into-recession-ben-wyatt-confirms/12295316



And then there is the collateral damage.



Kids whose education has been disrupted due to our mandates that schools and universities move activities online, and young people who have lost their jobs or are entering the job market during the recession we have created, will carry the impact of these disruptions for years.



Discoveries of cures for diseases other than COVID-19 will be delayed; IVF babies won't be born; our progress on lifting up the tens of thousands of Australian children who live in poverty will be set back.



The future we'll now have is worse than the future we could have had without the policy responses we have seen.



That comparison of what-we-will-have to what-we-could-have-had can be expressed in terms of quality-adjusted life years (QALYs) and wellbeing-adjusted life years (WELLBYs), and compared directly to estimates of the QALY and WELLBY costs of the COVID-19 deaths and suffering that our policies have averted.



When you make this comparison, correctly, the evidence is clear that Australia's lockdown has been a mistake.

https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/correctly-counting-the-cost-shows-australia-s-lockdown-was-a-mistake-20200525-p54w1o">https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/corr ... 525-p54w1o">https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/correctly-counting-the-cost-shows-australia-s-lockdown-was-a-mistake-20200525-p54w1o



All of that and there could be another outbreak next week. What lock downs have shown is that Western countries are grossly unprepared for pandemics. Your state like every other jurisdiction in the Western world could have quarantined vulnerable populations, used high tech tracking and mandated mask wearing in public with the same TEMPORARY results you have now.

[caskur]

Our children missed 1 week of school only because the normal 2 week break was turned into a 3 week break. Your whole article where Western Australia is concerned is WRONG and written last April of all things. We've 2 1/4's of growth in a global catastrophe.



 WA isn't in a recession, we've, had NO FIRST WAVE and no WA citizen deaths. We now have almost full employment as everyone is allowed to open up business and instead of pissing off on overseas holidays,  we're told, holiday in our own state.... everybody is really, really happy and our Labor Premier Mark McGowan has 96% approval. I doubt our useless and I mean fucking useless conservatives will ever get back in power, again.

[caskur]

You probably don't realize how rich WA is. That's the problem.

[caskur]

https://jtsi.wa.gov.au/">https://jtsi.wa.gov.au/



You need to get your facts more up-to-date SoulBro.



VVV



https://jtsi.wa.gov.au/about-the-state/quality-of-life/economy#:~:text=The%20Western%20Australian%20economy%20grew,the%20early%20months%20of%202020.&text=In%20March%202020%2C%20the%20value,billion%20of%20iron%20ore%20exports">https://jtsi.wa.gov.au/about-the-state/ ... %20exports">https://jtsi.wa.gov.au/about-the-state/quality-of-life/economy#:~:text=The%20Western%20Australian%20economy%20grew,the%20early%20months%20of%202020.&text=In%20March%202020%2C%20the%20value,billion%20of%20iron%20ore%20exports.



Between May and July, we had job increases of 40,000 people.



Anyway, read it.. It's not a big secret.



https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/mark-mcgowan-for-pm-wa-punters-might-want-it-but-does-labor-20200805-p55ix6.html">https://www.watoday.com.au/national/wes ... 55ix6.html">https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/mark-mcgowan-for-pm-wa-punters-might-want-it-but-does-labor-20200805-p55ix6.html



The extraordinary popularity of WA Premier Mark McGowan in his home state is something few political pundits have ever seen before.



Published opinion polls consistently suggest he's one of the most popular political leaders in the country, online petitions in support of his handling of the coronavirus pandemic attract hundreds of thousands of signatures, and myriad social media campaigns have sprung up spontaneously to champion his cause.



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