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"Nazism" is essentially just Nationalism, but it has been slandered and demonised by the ruling elite, who adhere to Globalism.
Are you happy for your country to descend into third world chaos and lose it's white majority status?
Nationalism did have a part to play in Nazism, but you might also consider the marriage of state and production at the expense of the individual. At least such was the case in Germany in the mid 30s to mid 40's, hence "National Socialism" from which the term Nazism is derived. Given the individual's rights were abrogated and interfered with to such an extent so that the marriage of business and state might flourish (an arguable necessity in the aftermath of the Treaty of Versailles and the near two decade long fiscal war waged on Germany by the British and the French particularly) a certain level of authoritarianism was necessary.
I do find it ironic that the exact same socialist hallmarks are present in Globalism today and I put it to you that its key proponents are dark on Nazism in large part because the
That leaves Nationalism, the belief in and devotion to the interests or culture of a specific nation or state and the ideal that it benefits from acting independently rather than collectively. That's anathema to Globalism right there - the goons overseeing the entire Globalism agenda (many of them German and German-adjacent, go figure) are pissed that they were not the ones who stood to benefit under the Nazi regime any more than they were under Trump's, but if they can shuffle all the nationalist movements into the one tent and call the contents Bad Mojo, then throwing the odd socialism failure in on top of the pile (you know, the really egregious socialistic fuckups) then it stands a better chance of giving them the excuse to repeat said fuckups for their own benefit. They are after all not National Socialiists, they are Democratic Socialists, right? Right.
Most lefties don't get it. Mimsy (much as I liked her as a person and a moderator) sure as fuck didn't, which is why you see her blithely following in the footsteps of the German citizenry of the late 1930s. She genuinely believes she is doing the right thing, but then so did they. You at least I believe through past experience are a little more receptive to the discussion. I don't demonize Nazism out of hand, the nationalism component is something I agree with or I wouldn't have found favour in it when Trump sought to "Make America Great Again. But I will find fault in Nazism for its socialist component. That shit caused a lot of pain and misery - so much so my grandparents fought a war against it. The same pain and misery that is being wheeled out now under the Globalism banner. I cherish individualism over collectivism myself, but to each their own.
As for Kiebers, I can't speak for him of course, I just get the impression he doesnt like you very much. It happens.