are we racist?

[Anonymous]

People can accuse me of whatever they want.



Accusations mean nothing.

There are consequences though Bricktop..



Being accused of racism in Canada can destroy a person's life.

So can the laws of slander.



Which anyone who fallaciously accuses me of anything will discover.

False or not, it makes no difference. I seem to recall a time when I defended a certain online someone against an especially ugly accusation that ultimately led to them being cancelled out of their community and dogged relentlessly for way longer than they might have served had they been found legitimately guilty in a jury of their real life peers. Their online peers on the other hand weren't interested in the minutia of what might have constituted a legitimate allegation to be investigated, the Word was redefined to mean whatever they wanted it to mean.



As were the definitions of words like "slander", "libel" and "defamation".



The consequences? They are what you make of them. To be clear, I wasn't overly impressed with a few aspects of the person in question, but I knew for fact they didn't stand up to the nasty things they were being dogged for and said so repeatedly. And was ignored, even by the target I was defending. Hey, I even wound up getting blamed for making the very charge I was defending the accused against... imagine that!



I carry that can to this day and refuse point blank to lose any sleep over it. I know what that person was guilty of and it wasn't what so many others insisted it be. That is all I need to know and the opinions of everyone else can go hang until they bother to stump up something concrete and irrefutable.



They haven't and i'm not holding my breath.

I'd be happy to discuss this further with you. But I do not engage with people too frightened to identify themselves.

I think you know my identity, certainly you suspect it enough to broadcast it to anyone you think matters. Additionally you have made the claim of not wanting to discuss things with "people too frightened to identify themselves" previously, whereas I recognise that in the absence of any identity at all (which is far from the case here) is the perfect platform for debating concepts and ideas in the absence of populism.



Besides, what can an account here possibly interest me with me that guest posting doesn't already provide? Your favour? I do beg your pardon.... who are you again?

[Zetsu]

While I didn't told my psychiatrist that I hate Chinese ppl since he never asked for my opnion, but he said I am a good man after he completed my analysis and mental health check.

Your mental health is probably a lot better than most of the people on these boards. Your psychological well-being is definitely better than the VF incels.

I don't deny I've said a lot of very disturbing insults against RW and eves, my only defense is that I've gone through at least 2 types of very severe hidden disability(border line psychopathic disorders or feels like I'm possessed by a ghost without realizing it but in a physically and verbally harmless way) for 19 years that ruined my ability to socialize with strangers or even be just standing or sitting next to them.  



Never accepted a single welfare check and still work to support myself, hence why I can never accept the socialist parasites like eves, RW and others.  It's just ironic that a lot of left wingers accuse us of racism like that it matters, but truth is that we all get along very well.

[Anonymous]

While I didn't told my psychiatrist that I hate Chinese ppl since he never asked for my opnion, but he said I am a good man after he completed my analysis and mental health check.

Your mental health is probably a lot better than most of the people on these boards. Your psychological well-being is definitely better than the VF incels.

I don't deny I've said a lot of very disturbing insults against RW and eves, my only defense is that I've gone through at least 2 types of very severe hidden disability(border line psychopathic disorders or feels like I'm possessed by a ghost without realizing it but in physically and verbally harmless way) for 19 years that ruined my ability to socialize with strangers or even be just standing or sitting next to them.  



Never accepted a single welfare check and still work to support myself, hence why I can never accept the socialist parasites like eves, RW and others.  It's just ironic that a lot of left wingers accuse us of racism like that it matters, but truth is that we all get along very well.

You're not the only one who can't accept that Zetsu.

[Anonymous]

In Canada, if you are accused of racism, you are guilty until proven innocent.

Wrong. You're still guilty of it in the court of public opinion even after you've been determined innocent in a court of law. Fash's point about consequences holds here, and let us be under no illusion the problem is confined to America's cap.



The Covington Kids episode should have taught you that. Yeah, it sucks... but then so does society and we really shouldn't be surprised.

Wrong. I am telling you when I was a wellsite supervisor that if a toolpush, driller or myself were accused of racism, we were off that lease until it was investigated. As I said, guilty until proven innocent.

But, you would have been entitled to your full wages lost if an investigation's verdict is that the accusation was false.

[Anonymous]

While I didn't told my psychiatrist that I hate Chinese ppl since he never asked for my opnion, but he said I am a good man after he completed my analysis and mental health check.

Welcome back.

[Anonymous]

I have called a racist more times than I can count. Outside of work, I don't care what progtards call me.

[cc]

I always like to see you here,  Zet ac_smile

[Anonymous]

I always like to see you here,  Zet ac_smile

Me too.

[cc]

....  I am telling you when I was a wellsite supervisor that if a toolpush, driller or myself were accused of racism, we were off that lease until it was investigated. As I said, guilty until proven innocent.

That's standard in Canadian workplaces and accompanies provincial employment law. An accusation of sexual harassment gets the same.

So wrong  .. but it's what our society has "de"volved to



For centuries we slowly grew as a society. Now we are going backward into very dark places.



 Fairness is one victim of a society controlled by a very negative element

[Anonymous]

....  I am telling you when I was a wellsite supervisor that if a toolpush, driller or myself were accused of racism, we were off that lease until it was investigated. As I said, guilty until proven innocent.

That's standard in Canadian workplaces and accompanies provincial employment law. An accusation of sexual harassment gets the same.

So wrong  .. but it's what our society has "de"volved to



For centuries we slowly grew as a society. Now we are going backward into very dark places

All I know is this, if there is an accusation of racial hostility or sexual harassment at CP I am instantly removed from the engineer's seat.

[Anonymous]

I always like to see you here,  Zet ac_smile

We've been posting together for many years..



I always look forward to Zetsu's appearances.

 ac_smile

[Anonymous]

Niceties like Habeus Corpus and the Magna Carta appear to have been suspended, which is a shame. I believe in both. In a good many people's eyes, that alone qualifies me as being a racist.



Inaccurately and retardedly as the claim might be, it has nonethelless been applied. This speaks to what I was saying to Fash earlier about definitions getting skewed and widened to go after people. Canada was a nice place, still is in many respects, but there are those in this world who cannot stand it whe other have Nice Things and as a consequence her days as a quietly proud and peace loving peoples is becoming a memory. Genuine regard for one another has taken a back seat to spurious allegations leveled by those willfully ignorant of The Word against those they have disagreement with.



It is a sad thing to see. You had something good going there once, worth fighting for and preserving. Something I too cherished enough to consider it a place to grow old in. That pride of being a decent and honourable people was harnessed and weaponized against you in much the same way as the CBT dolts are seeking to echo now. It sucks, I know, but there it is. You know if you're racist or not. Fash knows if she is racist or not. That ought to be enough, but it isn't - not in an environment where you can be booted off the island so to speak before you have had your day in court.



And that environment holds sway over a much greater tract of real estate than the second largest country on the planet might boast. Certainly greater than the microcosm of a small phpbb-fuelled pitstop on the information superhighway.



What can you do about it? I honestly don't know, I don't have all the answers myself, not even close. I do know this much though; marking time and defending yourself against improperly applied accusations isn't the answer. This is a big, ugly, many-tentacled beast that has come to your door and it will take and take and take until the little you have left is forever gone. It wants you broken for its own pleasure and churlish amusement. Those CBT assholes making the claim of racism are one such tentacle. You may have no option but to cede ground to it if it proves malicious enough to do more than simply call you nasty ad hominems, but that does not mean you cannot be quietly investing in something of your own elsewhere where its blind and spastic flailings are wholly unaware of.



You can still be proud, but only if you give yourself permission to be off the back of who you are. That goes for all of you here. You all have your differences, for the most part you are accepting enough of each others to a point where even the unnamed get a chance to air their grossly overpriced two cents worth in public. That sounds nothing like racism and everything like inclusionism to me. Inclusionism of a level that not even the pious ratbags of CBT cannot boast. Give a fuck if the odd off colour remark gets made, the overwhelming worth of the whole gives the lie to their churlish claims. You probably won't need to, but Bank a little of that anyway in the event you need it later. If there's one thing I've learned, it's this; the kind of asshole who wants to accuse you of something you're not is only interested in doing so because they want to cause you discomfort, if not outright miserable. But if you've still got something to feather your nest with (whatever form that might take) and their ignorance of what or where it is forbids them from taking that too, then all their fistbumps and self congratulatory backslaps are as empty and nutless as their lives.



A racist by their very nature would be limiting their options to effect this by this point. Ask yourself who the real racist is. You? Or the smooth brains leveling the allegation against "those asians"?



I think you know the answer.

[Odinson]

While I didn't told my psychiatrist that I hate Chinese ppl since he never asked for my opnion, but he said I am a good man after he completed my analysis and mental health check.

Your mental health is probably a lot better than most of the people on these boards. Your psychological well-being is definitely better than the VF incels.

I don't deny I've said a lot of very disturbing insults against RW and eves, my only defense is that I've gone through at least 2 types of very severe hidden disability(border line psychopathic disorders or feels like I'm possessed by a ghost without realizing it but in a physically and verbally harmless way) for 19 years that ruined my ability to socialize with strangers or even be just standing or sitting next to them.  



Never accepted a single welfare check and still work to support myself, hence why I can never accept the socialist parasites like eves, RW and others.  It's just ironic that a lot of left wingers accuse us of racism like that it matters, but truth is that we all get along very well.

Are you afraid of the psycho-Zetsu?

Do you try to contain him?

[Odinson]

In Canada, if you are accused of racism, you are guilty until proven innocent.

Wrong. You're still guilty of it in the court of public opinion even after you've been determined innocent in a court of law. Fash's point about consequences holds here, and let us be under no illusion the problem is confined to America's cap.



The Covington Kids episode should have taught you that. Yeah, it sucks... but then so does society and we really shouldn't be surprised.

Wrong. I am telling you when I was a wellsite supervisor that if a toolpush, driller or myself were accused of racism, we were off that lease until it was investigated. As I said, guilty until proven innocent.

I think the whole oil production has to be shut down until the tragedy has been thoroughly investigated.

[Zetsu]

You're not the only one who can't accept that Zetsu.

Welcome back.

I always like to see you here,  Zet ac_smile

I always like to see you here,  Zet ac_smile

Me too.

I always like to see you here,  Zet ac_smile

We've been posting together for many years..



I always look forward to Zetsu's appearances.

 ac_smile

Thanks guys  ac_cool , it always feels to good to see everyone again.  Despite my 11 day stay at the hospital and never feel so connected with other patients in my entire life, it's still always heart warming to be back in the TBC and along with society once again.