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Garraty_47

Quote from: Dove on July 08, 2024, 01:55:17 AMNot too mention, the things in project 2025 (from the Heritage Foubdation....it isn't even a political plan) are being very misrepresented.

 People are melting down....and by people I mean women...about people having to prove their age to watch porn.

 Why the fuck would anyone have a problem with THAT?!

I have to admit I haven't paid much attention to the 'age verification to watch porn' thing for a couple of reasons:

  • I'm not a porn connoisseur and won't be affected either way
  • This is the internet we're talking about for fuck's sake! That's an ultimately unenforceable proposition that is never going to actually solve the "problem" but it does play well among certain portions of the electorate and *that's* why it's even being discussed.

I will say it's funny that often it's the same people bemoaning any other types of regulation who are championing this particular invasive and complicated and essentially pointless regulation.

It's a lever to be used for control; one of those laws that will be broadly ignored (because it's fundamentally unenforceable) until/unless they want to use it on a person  or corporate entity they're punishing for wrongthink or some other unrelated source of friction.
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Biggie Smiles

Quote from: Dove on July 08, 2024, 01:52:20 AMYou have no idea what my stance is.

 And I could sit here and bluntly and plainly explain it, and you still won't get it. I know because I've tried.

 Also I'm willing to bet by "rights" you mean abortion and if women cannot get abortions...we are left with no rights.

 You probably don't know what a right even is. You don't know the difference between rights and things you can purchase. It's a very spoiled, first world view that shows a good portion of the country doesn't even value our rights, are not even informed on what our rights actually are.

 Thusly you believe we all have a RIGHT to the labor of another person.

To hear leftists shriek about the subject you'd think women are just walking down the street when they happen meet face to face with the airborne contagion known as pregnancy.

Don't want to get pregnant? Don't fuck. Use any one of a dozen or so preventive measures. But why in the world would any normal and logical person conclude that it is within a woman's right to commit a murder simply because of future inconvenience. ESPECIALLY when the very same people who are demanding this right would happily strip you of your right to resist an experimental drug which ultimately affects no one but yourself.

Hypocrites of the highest order. 
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Thiel

Quote from: Dove on July 08, 2024, 01:55:17 AMNot too mention, the things in project 2025 (from the Heritage Foubdation....it isn't even a political plan) are being very misrepresented.

 People are melting down....and by people I mean women...about people having to prove their age to watch porn.

 Why the fuck would anyone have a problem with THAT?!
It is not part of Trunp's platform, but Democrat voters are saying it is. They also have no clue what is really in Project 2025.
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gay, conservative and proud

Biggie Smiles

Quote from: Thiel on July 08, 2024, 01:09:23 PMIt is not part of Trunp's platform, but Democrat voters are saying it is. They also have no clue what is really in Project 2025.

This is why it is pointless to debate with them. They don't even know what they believe, they only believe what they are told and don't seem to understand the difference.

This is the reaction you get out of simpleton libtards when you construct a logical post with more than 8 werdz... it really pierces their very souls

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DKG

My offer is still on the table Gremlin. We both read Project 2025 and debate it.

DKG

Gremlin, here is page 750/751 of Project 2025. Show me exactly where it says aid will be eliminated for families and businesses to rebuild after storms. It must be there because your meme says it is and we all know memes are one hundred percent factual all the time.


THE SBA IN A CONSERVATIVE ADMINISTRATION
Reforming and restructuring the SBA under a conservative Administration
would meet the needs of America's small-business owners and entrepreneurs,
not special interests in Washington, D.C. Entrepreneurs believe the SBA is fairly
archaic in its operations and programming and must be transformed to serve
small businesses in the modern economy effectively.33 Therefore, a restructured
and reformed SBA would end the long-term deficiencies, practices, and problems
that have prolonged the decades-long cycle of waste, fraud, and mismanagement.
Moreover, the SBA Administrator and leadership can provide significant value to
all small businesses by strongly advocating for their policy needs and fostering an
agencywide culture that values all small-business owners and does not exclude
certain groups. Under a conservative Administration, success would yield:


l A highly qualified SBA Administrator and leadership team that can
competently run the agency and enthusiastically advocate for the policy
issues and needs of small-business owners and entrepreneurs.
l A tighter, more focused SBA that concentrates on congressionally
authorized programs.
l An accountable SBA Administrator and staff who report regularly to
Congress, respond on a timely basis to requests from individual Members
of Congress, and satisfactorily implement or respond to IG and GAO
recommendations.
l A full accounting of and an end to waste, fraud, and abuse in all COVID-19
relief programs, including the PPP and EIDL programs, and action that
follows the rule of law by ensuring that loan recipients who are not eligible
for loan forgiveness or who falsified loan applications either pay back the
funds or are referred to law enforcement.
l An end to SBA direct lending.
l An approach to small-business lending and capital programs that supports
a resilient small-business supply chain (for example, by financing
technological upgrades and capital expenditures).
l Outreach to all small businesses and those that are eligible for program
support across sectors and geographic areas. Through congressionally
authorized programs and collaboration with partners and business
associations, the SBA could use the latest technology and platforms to implement relevant initiatives to reach small businesses. Programs would
be nonduplicative and implemented on a first-come, first-served basis.
l A modern, revamped, and streamlined SBA that better utilizes current
technology and platforms for operations, for reporting, and in its programs
to reach, service, and engage small businesses.
l An Office of Advocacy that is strengthened by a renewed mandate and
additional resources to protect against overregulation along with a research
agenda that includes measuring the total cost that federal regulation
imposes on small businesses.
Accountability and Managerial Practice. The SBA lacks accountability and
managerial practices to measure the effectiveness, success, and integrity of its
various programs. As a future Administration evaluates agency structure and the
particulars of how the SBA is spending appropriated funds, it should immediately
require actions and procedures to compel a culture of accountability and performance. Specifically:
l Require performance metrics and internal procedures to safeguard
taxpayer dollars and program integrity. As noted in an October 2022
IG report, failure to adopt procedures that would reliably capture data and
information for various programs, coupled with significant challenges and
weaknesses regarding IT investments, systems development, and security
controls, presents significant risks to program integrity and increased
risk of waste, fraud, and abuse.34 Addressing these shortcomings and risks
should be a priority challenge and action item for the next Administration.
As underscored by the Inspector General in his introduction to the report,
"Pandemic response has, in many instances, magnified the challenging
systemic issues in SBA's mission-related work."

Biggie Smiles

Quote from: DKG on August 11, 2024, 10:30:53 AMGremlin, here is page 750/751 of Project 2025. Show me exactly where it says aid will be eliminated for families and businesses to rebuild after storms. It must be there because your meme says it is and we all know memes are one hundred percent factual all the time.


THE SBA IN A CONSERVATIVE ADMINISTRATION
Reforming and restructuring the SBA under a conservative Administration
would meet the needs of America's small-business owners and entrepreneurs,
not special interests in Washington, D.C. Entrepreneurs believe the SBA is fairly
archaic in its operations and programming and must be transformed to serve
small businesses in the modern economy effectively.33 Therefore, a restructured
and reformed SBA would end the long-term deficiencies, practices, and problems
that have prolonged the decades-long cycle of waste, fraud, and mismanagement.
Moreover, the SBA Administrator and leadership can provide significant value to
all small businesses by strongly advocating for their policy needs and fostering an
agencywide culture that values all small-business owners and does not exclude
certain groups. Under a conservative Administration, success would yield:


l A highly qualified SBA Administrator and leadership team that can
competently run the agency and enthusiastically advocate for the policy
issues and needs of small-business owners and entrepreneurs.
l A tighter, more focused SBA that concentrates on congressionally
authorized programs.
l An accountable SBA Administrator and staff who report regularly to
Congress, respond on a timely basis to requests from individual Members
of Congress, and satisfactorily implement or respond to IG and GAO
recommendations.
l A full accounting of and an end to waste, fraud, and abuse in all COVID-19
relief programs, including the PPP and EIDL programs, and action that
follows the rule of law by ensuring that loan recipients who are not eligible
for loan forgiveness or who falsified loan applications either pay back the
funds or are referred to law enforcement.
l An end to SBA direct lending.
l An approach to small-business lending and capital programs that supports
a resilient small-business supply chain (for example, by financing
technological upgrades and capital expenditures).
l Outreach to all small businesses and those that are eligible for program
support across sectors and geographic areas. Through congressionally
authorized programs and collaboration with partners and business
associations, the SBA could use the latest technology and platforms to implement relevant initiatives to reach small businesses. Programs would
be nonduplicative and implemented on a first-come, first-served basis.
l A modern, revamped, and streamlined SBA that better utilizes current
technology and platforms for operations, for reporting, and in its programs
to reach, service, and engage small businesses.
l An Office of Advocacy that is strengthened by a renewed mandate and
additional resources to protect against overregulation along with a research
agenda that includes measuring the total cost that federal regulation
imposes on small businesses.
Accountability and Managerial Practice. The SBA lacks accountability and
managerial practices to measure the effectiveness, success, and integrity of its
various programs. As a future Administration evaluates agency structure and the
particulars of how the SBA is spending appropriated funds, it should immediately
require actions and procedures to compel a culture of accountability and performance. Specifically:
l Require performance metrics and internal procedures to safeguard
taxpayer dollars and program integrity. As noted in an October 2022
IG report, failure to adopt procedures that would reliably capture data and
information for various programs, coupled with significant challenges and
weaknesses regarding IT investments, systems development, and security
controls, presents significant risks to program integrity and increased
risk of waste, fraud, and abuse.34 Addressing these shortcomings and risks
should be a priority challenge and action item for the next Administration.
As underscored by the Inspector General in his introduction to the report,
"Pandemic response has, in many instances, magnified the challenging
systemic issues in SBA's mission-related work."

Oh gosh. You went and pulled page 750 of a publicly available document? It has too many Werdz! And avatar_Dove can explain to you better than I how the drooling hyenas at BF hate them some werdz.

Werdz be making their tiny brains bleed! Think of werdz and common sense in the frame of mind of Holy water, crosses, silver and sunlight and what effect those would have on your average vampire.

And you've presented over a thousand of them there, good sir. So there is a slim to none chance of this spastic fucktard actually reading it. And a minus ZERO chance of him ever understanding it even if he did

DKG

One would assume a person that appears to have an interest in a document would take the time to know what is in it. But, not Gremlin.

Biggie Smiles

Quote from: DKG on August 11, 2024, 10:49:41 AMOne would assume a person that appears to have an interest in a document would take the time to know what is in it. But, not Gremlin.
not any of them.

Every last one of those Monkeys were screeching in unison about a 4 page piece of legislation governing the rights of parents to know what their children in grades k through 3rd were being taught in schools that their tax dollars paid for.

this bill was effectively transformed into the "dont say gay" bill despite having no reference to homosexuality in any context and the word gay never appearing a single time within the bill.

If they can pull off that type of hysterical fear mongering among their idiotic imbecilic base they can get those morons to believe anything.
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Brent

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 11, 2024, 10:59:18 AMnot any of them.

Every last one of those Monkeys were screeching in unison about a 4 page piece of legislation governing the rights of parents to know what their children in grades k through 3rd were being taught in schools that their tax dollars paid for.

this bill was effectively transformed into the "dont say gay" bill despite having no reference to homosexuality in any context and the word gay never appearing a single time within the bill.

If they can pull off that type of hysterical fear mongering among their idiotic imbecilic base they can get those morons to believe anything.
Was that something that happened in Florida?

Biggie Smiles

Quote from: Brent on August 11, 2024, 01:02:35 PMWas that something that happened in Florida?
Yes. It's called the parental rights act

twisted and turned into some draconian measure aimed at persecuting people for being gay. When nothing could be further from the truth

Thiel

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 11, 2024, 02:10:35 PMYes. It's called the parental rights act

twisted and turned into some draconian measure aimed at persecuting people for being gay. When nothing could be further from the truth
Desantis always stands his ground. He always wins battles against wokism.
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Herman

Quote from: DKG on August 11, 2024, 10:30:53 AMGremlin, here is page 750/751 of Project 2025. Show me exactly where it says aid will be eliminated for families and businesses to rebuild after storms. It must be there because your meme says it is and we all know memes are one hundred percent factual all the time.


THE SBA IN A CONSERVATIVE ADMINISTRATION
Reforming and restructuring the SBA under a conservative Administration
would meet the needs of America's small-business owners and entrepreneurs,
not special interests in Washington, D.C. Entrepreneurs believe the SBA is fairly
archaic in its operations and programming and must be transformed to serve
small businesses in the modern economy effectively.33 Therefore, a restructured
and reformed SBA would end the long-term deficiencies, practices, and problems
that have prolonged the decades-long cycle of waste, fraud, and mismanagement.
Moreover, the SBA Administrator and leadership can provide significant value to
all small businesses by strongly advocating for their policy needs and fostering an
agencywide culture that values all small-business owners and does not exclude
certain groups. Under a conservative Administration, success would yield:


l A highly qualified SBA Administrator and leadership team that can
competently run the agency and enthusiastically advocate for the policy
issues and needs of small-business owners and entrepreneurs.
l A tighter, more focused SBA that concentrates on congressionally
authorized programs.
l An accountable SBA Administrator and staff who report regularly to
Congress, respond on a timely basis to requests from individual Members
of Congress, and satisfactorily implement or respond to IG and GAO
recommendations.
l A full accounting of and an end to waste, fraud, and abuse in all COVID-19
relief programs, including the PPP and EIDL programs, and action that
follows the rule of law by ensuring that loan recipients who are not eligible
for loan forgiveness or who falsified loan applications either pay back the
funds or are referred to law enforcement.
l An end to SBA direct lending.
l An approach to small-business lending and capital programs that supports
a resilient small-business supply chain (for example, by financing
technological upgrades and capital expenditures).
l Outreach to all small businesses and those that are eligible for program
support across sectors and geographic areas. Through congressionally
authorized programs and collaboration with partners and business
associations, the SBA could use the latest technology and platforms to implement relevant initiatives to reach small businesses. Programs would
be nonduplicative and implemented on a first-come, first-served basis.
l A modern, revamped, and streamlined SBA that better utilizes current
technology and platforms for operations, for reporting, and in its programs
to reach, service, and engage small businesses.
l An Office of Advocacy that is strengthened by a renewed mandate and
additional resources to protect against overregulation along with a research
agenda that includes measuring the total cost that federal regulation
imposes on small businesses.
Accountability and Managerial Practice. The SBA lacks accountability and
managerial practices to measure the effectiveness, success, and integrity of its
various programs. As a future Administration evaluates agency structure and the
particulars of how the SBA is spending appropriated funds, it should immediately
require actions and procedures to compel a culture of accountability and performance. Specifically:
l Require performance metrics and internal procedures to safeguard
taxpayer dollars and program integrity. As noted in an October 2022
IG report, failure to adopt procedures that would reliably capture data and
information for various programs, coupled with significant challenges and
weaknesses regarding IT investments, systems development, and security
controls, presents significant risks to program integrity and increased
risk of waste, fraud, and abuse.34 Addressing these shortcomings and risks
should be a priority challenge and action item for the next Administration.
As underscored by the Inspector General in his introduction to the report,
"Pandemic response has, in many instances, magnified the challenging
systemic issues in SBA's mission-related work."
This is a good cunting. :thumbup2: