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Treatment for Pedophiles

Started by RW, July 20, 2015, 05:15:48 PM

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Quote from: "RW"Before we get all "YAY GOD" up in here, pedophilia is not classed as an addiction and should not be treated as one.  It requires a different set of treatment than addiction.



It also seems to require a heaping pile of public education.
 CBT is CBT.  Different approaches perhaps, but it's still CBT.  And if you don't lay down accountability and boundaries that person is going to act out, whether with child porn or with a child.  In fact, I'm willing to state that person has already been using child porn before seeking help, and that is a crime.

RW

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Quote from: "RW"Before we get all "YAY GOD" up in here, pedophilia is not classed as an addiction and should not be treated as one.  It requires a different set of treatment than addiction.



It also seems to require a heaping pile of public education.
 CBT is CBT.  Different approaches perhaps, but it's still CBT.  And if you don't lay down accountability and boundaries that person is going to act out, whether with child porn or with a child.  In fact, I'm willing to state that person has already been using child porn before seeking help, and that is a crime.

CBT is an blanket term for various approaches that are based on the principle that our thoughts affect our feelings which affect our actions.  That is the basics of CBT.  Beyond that, there are different approaches within in depending on who is being treated.
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Wulf

Quote from: "RW"I dunno Wulf.  I just think ignorance isn't helping the situation.


You're correct, ignorance never helps but if it is a sexual preference, then you are never going to figure out what makes them tick.



I think that's why behavioral therapy as a treatment isn't very unreliable. IMHO, if you can't pinpoint what drives a person to do what they do you have lost most of the battle.

RW

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Quote from: "RW"I dunno Wulf.  I just think ignorance isn't helping the situation.


You're correct, ignorance never helps but if it is a sexual preference, then you are never going to figure out what makes them tick.



I think that's why behavioral therapy as a treatment isn't very unreliable. IMHO, if you can't pinpoint what drives a person to do what they do you have lost most of the battle.

They don't know what causes a lot of mental disorders.



The idea isn't to "cure" them so much as help them control their urges to offend.  Again, it boils down to treatment vs no treatment.  I would rather they be treated than not.
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Anonymous

You guys still on about this shit. A dull razor to the scrotum and the ped problem is solved. Just to show I am not heartless, I'd throw in a 26 pounder of rum before the fun began.

Wulf

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Quote from: "Wulf"
Quote from: "RW"I dunno Wulf.  I just think ignorance isn't helping the situation.


You're correct, ignorance never helps but if it is a sexual preference, then you are never going to figure out what makes them tick.



I think that's why behavioral therapy as a treatment isn't very unreliable. IMHO, if you can't pinpoint what drives a person to do what they do you have lost most of the battle.

They don't know what causes a lot of mental disorders.



The idea isn't to "cure" them so much as help them control their urges to offend.  Again, it boils down to treatment vs no treatment.  I would rather they be treated than not.


Well is it a mental disorder or a sexual preference?



Why can't the goal be to cure them? The current treatment is nothing but containment. Containment without monitoring is dangerous because as Dove indicated, there is no accountability.



Again, I don't know what the best course of action is but I kind of think the current course has to many holes in it to be effective. I guess time will tell but I doubt that the PC socialist powers that be will be objective with the eventual outcome.

RW

Well the DSM classed it as a sexual orientation but people went nuts so they changed orientation to interest and claimed it was a typo.



So you think treatment is worse than nothing?
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Anonymous

Jared from Subway likes the little girls.  FBI kicked his door in, and seized his shit.

Annie

REally? Jared? But he seems like such a nice young fellow...I'll have to go Google that...
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Anonymous

Quote from: "GrAnnie"But he seems like such a nice young fellow...

Ted Bundy was good looking and charming.

Annie

Well the news sites say they have really nothing yet but a woman's testimony of innapropriate (how do you spell that?) comments. But he looks as if he's gaining back all that weight.
Your mind is a garden. Your thoughts are the seeds. You can grow flowers or you can grow weeds.  ~ Anonymous

Annie

Ted Bundy was a serial killer....
Your mind is a garden. Your thoughts are the seeds. You can grow flowers or you can grow weeds.  ~ Anonymous

RW

#72
It's true they searched his home but all speculative at this point.
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Annie

Innocent until proven guilty. But he did gain the weight back soo who knows...
Your mind is a garden. Your thoughts are the seeds. You can grow flowers or you can grow weeds.  ~ Anonymous

Wulf

Quote from: "RW"Well the DSM classed it as a sexual orientation but people went nuts so they changed orientation to interest and claimed it was a typo.



So you think treatment is worse than nothing?


Treatment is worth a shot but I have my doubts on the current treatments effectiveness. I thought I made that pretty clear.