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It seems Trump may have worked out a deal with the Democrats to keep DACA in exchange for raising the debt ceiling.Quote from: "seoulbro"
Beside the border wall issue, the Democrats said Trump agreed to enshrine protections for the nearly 800,000 immigrants brought illegally to this country as kids who had benefited from the DACA program.Quote
Trump ended the program earlier this month and gave Congress six months to come up with a legislative fix before the statuses of the so-called Dreamers begin to expire.
House Speaker Paul Ryan, who also sat down with Pelosi to talk immigration Wednesday, said in an interview that deporting the so-called Dreamers was "not in our nation's interest," and said the president had "made the right call."
Trump says no DACA caca without a wall and an end to chain and lottery migration.Quote from: "Wazzzup"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/946731576687235072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Ftrump-says-dreamers-wont-be-protected-without-a-wall-first%2F"> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... l-first%2F">https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/946731576687235072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Ftrump-says-dreamers-wont-be-protected-without-a-wall-first%2F
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Trump says no DACA caca without a wall and an end to chain and lottery migration.Quote from: "Wazzzup"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/946731576687235072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Ftrump-says-dreamers-wont-be-protected-without-a-wall-first%2F"> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... l-first%2F">https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/946731576687235072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Ftrump-says-dreamers-wont-be-protected-without-a-wall-first%2F
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Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Trump says no DACA caca without a wall and an end to chain and lottery migration.Quote from: "Wazzzup"https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/946731576687235072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Ftrump-says-dreamers-wont-be-protected-without-a-wall-first%2F"> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... l-first%2F">https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/946731576687235072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Ftrump-says-dreamers-wont-be-protected-without-a-wall-first%2F
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Seems fair to me.ac_umm
According to Center for Immigration Studies Director of Research Steven Camarota, about 24 percent of illegal aliens who are eligible for DACA — which President Trump administration will officially end in March 2018 — overstate their English proficiency skills and are "below basic" or "functionally illiterate."Quote
Additionally, the research found that about 46 percent of DACA illegal aliens only have "basic" English proficiency skills, despite narratives from corporate interests and the open borders lobby that recipients of the program are vastly highly-educated.
How can that be if they have lived in the USA all or most of their lives?Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "seoulbro"How can that be if they have lived in the USA all or most of their lives?Quote from: "Fashionista"
The figure of 25% seems dubious.
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Quote from: "seoulbro"How can that be if they have lived in the USA all or most of their lives?Quote from: "Fashionista"
The figure of 25% seems dubious.
Not really. Acording to the US Census Nationwide, 21.6 percentof people speak a language other than English at home and 8.6 percent speak English less than very well.
In california 44.6% of people do not speak english at home. 35.6% in Texas; 34.5% in NM; 31.7% in NJ; 31.0% in NYhttps://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/census-bureau-446-california-dont-speak-english-home-356-texas-345-nm"> https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/te ... xas-345-nm">https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/census-bureau-446-california-dont-speak-english-home-356-texas-345-nm
Quote from: "seoulbro"Quote from: "Wazzzup"Quote from: "seoulbro"How can that be if they have lived in the USA all or most of their lives?Quote from: "Fashionista"
The figure of 25% seems dubious.
Not really. Acording to the US Census Nationwide, 21.6 percentof people speak a language other than English at home and 8.6 percent speak English less than very well.
In california 44.6% of people do not speak english at home. 35.6% in Texas; 34.5% in NM; 31.7% in NJ; 31.0% in NYhttps://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/census-bureau-446-california-dont-speak-english-home-356-texas-345-nm"> https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/te ... xas-345-nm">https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/census-bureau-446-california-dont-speak-english-home-356-texas-345-nm
I spoke a language other than English when I was a kid living with my parents in Toronto. That doesn't mean I'm functionally illiterate in English.
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Quote from: "seoulbro"Quote from: "Wazzzup"Quote from: "seoulbro"How can that be if they have lived in the USA all or most of their lives?Quote from: "Fashionista"
The figure of 25% seems dubious.
Not really. Acording to the US Census Nationwide, 21.6 percentof people speak a language other than English at home and 8.6 percent speak English less than very well.
In california 44.6% of people do not speak english at home. 35.6% in Texas; 34.5% in NM; 31.7% in NJ; 31.0% in NYhttps://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/census-bureau-446-california-dont-speak-english-home-356-texas-345-nm"> https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/te ... xas-345-nm">https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/census-bureau-446-california-dont-speak-english-home-356-texas-345-nm
I spoke a language other than English when I was a kid living with my parents in Toronto. That doesn't mean I'm functionally illiterate in English.
That would be anecdotal evidence. I know a tall woman, how can you say women are usually shorter than men? I know someone who was strangled by a seatbelt, how can you say seatbelts save lives?
The point is, as a general statement, someone who is not speaking english at home isMore Likelyto have trouble speaking and reading English.
I have no trouble believing that 1/4 of DACA kids have very poor English skills. Especially for those whose families speak only Spanish in the home, for those who watch spanish language TV, for those who have friends that speak only Spanish. Where is the need to learn english?
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