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Dreamers and DACA

Started by Harry, September 04, 2017, 11:50:13 PM

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Berry Sweet

Whats this threaf about CACA?   Did cocktop make more fudge?

mugwump

Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Whats this threaf about CACA?   Did cocktop make more fudge?

Brick's fudge is at the bottom of the caste system. Always getting blamed.

Wazzzup

Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Wazzzup"Trump says no DACA caca without a wall and an end to chain and lottery migration.



https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/946731576687235072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Ftrump-says-dreamers-wont-be-protected-without-a-wall-first%2F">https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... l-first%2F">https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/946731576687235072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Ftrump-says-dreamers-wont-be-protected-without-a-wall-first%2F



 ac_cool


Seems fair to me.  ac_umm

Which is why the Democrats won't go along with it.


Just as you predicted--



https://www.durbin.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/durbin-statement-on-new-white-house-immigration-proposal">https://www.durbin.senate.gov/newsroom/ ... n-proposal">https://www.durbin.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/durbin-statement-on-new-white-house-immigration-proposal


Quote"President Trump has said he may need a good government shutdown to get his wall. With this demand, he seems to be heading in that direction. I've been clear from the beginning that Senate Democrats will consider reasonable border security measures in order to pass the Dream Act into law. The Trump Administration set this crisis in motion when it ended DACA four months ago. It's outrageous that the White House would undercut months of bipartisan efforts by again trying to put its entire wish-list of hardline anti-immigrant bills—plus an additional $18 billion in wall funding—on the backs of these young people.


I think trump should say no daca, the senate should end the filibuster rule and fully fund the wall.  They were elected majority for a reason.

Anonymous

If there's a shutdown, the GOP will pay for it at the midterm elections.

Frood

Quote from: "Herman"If there's a shutdown, the GOP will pay for it at the midterm elections.


The US is a write off these days. I'm not sure anything matters.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"If there's a shutdown, the GOP will pay for it at the midterm elections.


The US is a write off these days. I'm not sure anything matters.

The US is doing really well under Trump. Some issues that have been neglected for decades are being addressed. But, this a four year blip on the road to ruin.

Frood

Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"If there's a shutdown, the GOP will pay for it at the midterm elections.


The US is a write off these days. I'm not sure anything matters.

The US is doing really well under Trump. Some issues that have been neglected for decades are being addressed. But, this a four year blip on the road to ruin.


I believe it will collapse in our lifetime.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Herman"If there's a shutdown, the GOP will pay for it at the midterm elections.


The US is a write off these days. I'm not sure anything matters.

The US is doing really well under Trump. Some issues that have been neglected for decades are being addressed. But, this a four year blip on the road to ruin.


I believe it will collapse in our lifetime.

I am predicting Sweden or France will be the first Western domino to fall. Don't get me wrong, the US will too.

Wazzzup

Quote from: "Herman"If there's a shutdown, the GOP will pay for it at the midterm elections.


that could be. Hard to say.  The media would certainly spin it as Trumps and the repubs fault, even though it wouldn't be.  (DACA has no bnusiness being part of a budget bill)  BUT Most likely the repubs will cave, or partly cave like they usually do.  IMO what they should really do is get rid of the filibuster rule like they did with judges, doing so would take away the dems ability to shut the government down.

Blazor

Quote from: "mugwump"
Quote from: "Berry Sweet"Whats this threaf about CACA?   Did cocktop make more fudge?

Brick's fudge is at the bottom of the caste system. Always getting blamed.


Shoulda had some of my fudge  :thumbup:
I've come here to chew bubble gum, and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

Wazzzup

Not like it wasn't known, but this is proof that this DACA CACA, much like most of US immigration policy, is a political weapon for democrats to use to increase their power.





http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/08/leaked-memo-dreamers-are-critical-to-dems-future-electoral-success/">http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/08/leake ... l-success/">http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/08/leaked-memo-dreamers-are-critical-to-dems-future-electoral-success/


QuoteThe Center For American Progress (CAP) Action Fund circulated a memo on Monday calling illegal immigrants brought here at a young age — so-called "Dreamers" — a "critical component of the Democratic Party's future electoral success."



The memo, co-authored by former Clinton communications director Jennifer Palmieri, was sent around to allies calling on Democrats to "refuse to offer any votes for Republican spending bills that do not offer a fix for Dreamers and instead appropriate funds to deport them."



"If Democrats don't try to do everything in their power to defend Dreamers, that will jeopardize Democrats' electoral chances in 2018 and beyond," reads the memo. "In short, the next few weeks will tell us a lot about the Democratic Party and its long-term electoral prospects."


I'm sick of the democrat party using immigration policy as a tool to gain more power.  Trump should say no deal on DACA, end the filibuster rule and get his wall funded by the republicans.

mugwump

Quote from: "Wazzzup"Not like it wasn't known, but this is proof that this DACA CACA, much like most of US immigration policy, is a political weapon for democrats to use to increase their power.





http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/08/leaked-memo-dreamers-are-critical-to-dems-future-electoral-success/">http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/08/leake ... l-success/">http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/08/leaked-memo-dreamers-are-critical-to-dems-future-electoral-success/


QuoteThe Center For American Progress (CAP) Action Fund circulated a memo on Monday calling illegal immigrants brought here at a young age — so-called "Dreamers" — a "critical component of the Democratic Party's future electoral success."



The memo, co-authored by former Clinton communications director Jennifer Palmieri, was sent around to allies calling on Democrats to "refuse to offer any votes for Republican spending bills that do not offer a fix for Dreamers and instead appropriate funds to deport them."



"If Democrats don't try to do everything in their power to defend Dreamers, that will jeopardize Democrats' electoral chances in 2018 and beyond," reads the memo. "In short, the next few weeks will tell us a lot about the Democratic Party and its long-term electoral prospects."


I'm sick of the democrat party using immigration policy as a tool to gain more power.  Trump should say no deal on DACA, end the filibuster rule and get his wall funded by the republicans.

I saw that Wazzzup and I was going to post it. I don't think anyone is really surprised by this revelation.

Lance Leftardashian

These people have travelled so far and overcome so many obstacles in their quest to enjoy a better life in America. We must help them realise their dreams.
I care, you pay

Anonymous

Quote from: "Lance Leftardashian"These people have travelled so far and overcome so many obstacles in their quest to enjoy a better life in America. We must help them realise their dreams.

Even boxers who pack their gloves with ball bearings? :icon_wink:

Wazzzup



http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/16/sen-dick-durbin-im-working-full-time-for-daca-illegal-aliens/">http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... al-aliens/">http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/16/sen-dick-durbin-im-working-full-time-for-daca-illegal-aliens/


Quote I'm focused on one thing — not that meeting — but on making sure that those who are being protected by DACA and eligible for the DREAM Act have a future in America. I am focused on that full time.


In other words, he could give a crap about Americans, he works for illegal aliens and their needs (and getting democrats like himself more votes).  Kind of what I figured.