Formerly--(Would you buy a house somebody was brutally murdered in?) which somehow became a Holocaust thread

[Bricktop]

The holocaust.

[Aryan]

The holocaust.

I deny that 6 million Jews died, (which has been proven to be false), and that gas chambers existed.  



So you believe every single part of the official tale?

[Bricktop]

Well, you stick to your story and I'll stick to mine. I'm not going to waste valuable time arguing with someone that the sky is green, the Queen is Chinese and pork pies are made from human flesh. If, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, you choose to believe in a lie, then expect the rest of your political claims to be equally invalidated.



And I don't believe ANY official tales. I believe only what I perceive from my own observations.

[Aryan]

Well, you stick to your story and I'll stick to mine. I'm not going to waste valuable time arguing with someone that the sky is green, the Queen is Chinese and pork pies are made from human flesh. If, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, you choose to believe in a lie, then expect the rest of your political claims to be equally invalidated.



And I don't believe ANY official tales. I believe only what I perceive from my own observations.

Comparing someone questioning the very dubious claim that 6 million Jews were murdered in gas chambers to a ludicrous notion that the sky is green is an extremely poor analogy.   ac_unsure



I'm actually curious why you haven't researched the topic yourself, considering the fact that you are very active online, because if you had, you would know full well that the official tale contains more holes than a block of Swiss cheese.

[Bricktop]

Do you see anywhere where I haven't "researched" the issue? Do I come across as someone who invents arguments without some semblance of factual corroboration?



The exact number is moot. The practice of Nazi Germany to eliminate Jews by execution is not. With the overwhelming amount of evidence in support of Nazi atrocities, arguing that it is a fantasy is indeed tantamount to arguing the sky is green. The fact that the sky is blue and that Auschwitz was used as a genocidal centre are beyond reasonable question, and should you argue against either, you render yourself illogical and irrational.



You may know that my cousin Warwick Davis did a TV special (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2795336/">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2795336/)  on the Dwarves of Auschwitz, in which he visited the standing memorial. He told me it was the most traumatic and disturbing experience of his life. You should try it. I do not expect you to change your political views, but I would expect you at least to accept tested, validated, corroborated first-hand evidence from both those interred and those who stood guard as they were slaughtered.

[Anonymous]

Did you get to sample the theater and swimming pool which existed in the 'death camp', or have they replaced them with gas chambers?  ac_lmfao

San Quentin has educational and vocational opportunities as well as sports. I guess the difference between the inmates at SQ and Auschwitz is that the SQ ones DESERVE to be there.

[Aryan]

Do you see anywhere where I haven't "researched" the issue? Do I come across as someone who invents arguments without some semblance of factual corroboration?



The exact number is moot. The practice of Nazi Germany to eliminate Jews by execution is not. With the overwhelming amount of evidence in support of Nazi atrocities, arguing that it is a fantasy is indeed tantamount to arguing the sky is green. The fact that the sky is blue and that Auschwitz was used as a genocidal centre are beyond reasonable question, and should you argue against either, you render yourself illogical and irrational.



You may know that my cousin Warwick Davis did a TV special (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2795336/">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2795336/)  on the Dwarves of Auschwitz, in which he visited the standing memorial. He told me it was the most traumatic and disturbing experience of his life. You should try it. I do not expect you to change your political views, but I would expect you at least to accept tested, validated, corroborated first-hand evidence from both those interred and those who stood guard as they were slaughtered.

Any particular reason why your cousin chose to hop on the Holocaust bandwagon, rather than do something a tad more noble, like produce something covering a topic which has been largely forgotten, like the Holodomor? The horrors of the red army and Communism in general have been swept aside thanks to the Jews and their Hollowco$$t industry.



For the record I'm not denying that Jews died, however I don't believe that gas chambers were used or anywhere near the amount of Jews perished which has been claimed. In a nutshell, we've all been lied to, big time.

[Bricktop]

Since when has the brutality of Stalin been swept under the rug??



"Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by Ukraine[13] and 15 other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people carried out by the Soviet government.[14]"



If this https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scrapbookpages.com%2FAuschwitzScrapbook%2F2005Photos%2FGasChamberBackWall.jpg&f=1"> is not a gas chamber, what is it?



If this is not a human remains disposal incinerator https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffathercatfish.com%2Fimages%2FHolocaust%2Fholocaust-gas.gif&f=1"> what is it?



If this is not a toxic powder that turns to lethal gas https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fjan27.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F01%2Fzyklon-b-can.jpg&f=1"> what is it?



If these are not civilians being incarcerated in a concentration camp https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-2sGtcWERjp0%2FUJ-Q05uQDBI%2FAAAAAAAAS8g%2FjsZDnerKcUI%2Fs640%2Fholocaust2GasChamber-2.gif&f=1">, what are they?



You verge on delusional to deny irrebuttable evidence.

[Anonymous]

BT, you got it all wrong. Concentration camps like Dachau and Auschwitz were the all inclusive resorts of their day. Jews, the physically and mentally disabled, Roma (gypsies), gays, Poles and other Slavic peoples, Jehovah's Witnesses, and members of political opposition groups were the lucky ones who got to enjoy a lengthy stay at a paradise concentration camp.

[Aryan]

Since when has the brutality of Stalin been swept under the rug??



"Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by Ukraine[13] and 15 other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people carried out by the Soviet government.[14]"

Since 2006.  ac_lmfao



By contrast, the holy Hollowco$$t has been rammed down everyone's throats since WW2 ended.  Not to mention endless Jewish endorsed Hollyweird movies which are nothing more than Jewish propaganda which contain little or no truth to them.



Are you honestly going to sit there and try saying that the Holodomor has had anywhere near the amount of hype and coverage as the Holocaust?

If this https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scrapbookpages.com%2FAuschwitzScrapbook%2F2005Photos%2FGasChamberBackWall.jpg&f=1"> is not a gas chamber, what is it?

Delousing chamber. You need to watch David Cole's visit to Auschwitz, it's on Youtube.

If this is not a human remains disposal incinerator https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffathercatfish.com%2Fimages%2FHolocaust%2Fholocaust-gas.gif&f=1"> what is it?

Correct it's an oven used to cremate bodies. Death in the camp was rife towards the end of the war due to supply routes being bombed, resulting in food or medicine being unable to get through.

If this is not a toxic powder that turns to lethal gas https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fjan27.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F01%2Fzyklon-b-can.jpg&f=1"> what is it?

That's Zyklon B. It was used for the delousing in the delousing chamber, oddly enough......

If these are not civilians being incarcerated in a concentration camp https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-2sGtcWERjp0%2FUJ-Q05uQDBI%2FAAAAAAAAS8g%2FjsZDnerKcUI%2Fs640%2Fholocaust2GasChamber-2.gif&f=1">, what are they?

They're people being incarcerated in a labour camp. You almost got that one right........ This wasn't exclusive treatment dished out by the Germans incidentally.

You verge on delusional to deny irrebuttable evidence.

So this is your evidence supposedly proving what the official tale of the Holocaust claims? Sorry but this does not prove that 6 million Jews were gassed by the evil nazis. Not by a long shot.

[Aryan]

BT, you got it all wrong. Concentration camps like Dachau and Auschwitz were the all inclusive resorts of their day. Jews, the physically and mentally disabled, Roma (gypsies), gays, Poles and other Slavic peoples, Jehovah's Witnesses, and members of political opposition groups were the lucky ones who got to enjoy a lengthy stay at a paradise concentration camp.

They were labour camps, not death camps like gullible morons like you think.



Go watch Swindler's list again.  

[Anonymous]

Did you get to sample the theater and swimming pool which existed in the 'death camp', or have they replaced them with gas chambers?  ac_lmfao

San Quentin has educational and vocational opportunities as well as sports. I guess the difference between the inmates at SQ and Auschwitz is that the SQ ones DESERVE to be there.

Good analogy.



I know I sure as hell would not want to be an inmate at Alcatraz. But, it would still be preferable to a German  run labor camp. Or even worse, a Japanese one.

[Bricktop]

BT, you got it all wrong. Concentration camps like Dachau and Auschwitz were the all inclusive resorts of their day. Jews, the physically and mentally disabled, Roma (gypsies), gays, Poles and other Slavic peoples, Jehovah's Witnesses, and members of political opposition groups were the lucky ones who got to enjoy a lengthy stay at a paradise concentration camp.

They were labour camps, not death camps like gullible morons like you think.



Go watch Swindler's list again.  

So, the gas chambers were for disinfecting after all. And the incinerators for the large amount of rubbish the ill-mannered jews left in their wake.



Jesus wept...

[Bricktop]

So this is your evidence supposedly proving what the official tale of the Holocaust claims? Sorry but this does not prove that 6 million Jews were gassed by the evil nazis. Not by a long shot.

It is not my mission to prove anything to you. Your beliefs are inconsequential to me and probably everybody else.



Nor is your reference to Stalin's inhuman brutality relevant. Two wrongs don't make a Reich.



The West has never shied away from referencing Stalin's abhorrent terror regime. It defined the Soviet Union, and ultimately its collapse. No-one I know would separate Stalin and Hitler in terms of tyrannical inhumanity. I certainly don't.



And I accept that the Jews have been very much more successful in maintaining the Holocaust as a significant event in their history, and I further accept that they use it to justify their conduct. They are the epitome of the use of victimhood to gain advantage.



I have no love for ANY state that is based on religion. They are as tyrannical and despotic as any dictatorship. They simply substitute religion in lieu of political ideology.

[Aryan]

So this is your evidence supposedly proving what the official tale of the Holocaust claims? Sorry but this does not prove that 6 million Jews were gassed by the evil nazis. Not by a long shot.

It is not my mission to prove anything to you. Your beliefs are inconsequential to me and probably everybody else.



Nor is your reference to Stalin's inhuman brutality relevant. Two wrongs don't make a Reich.



The West has never shied away from referencing Stalin's abhorrent terror regime. It defined the Soviet Union, and ultimately its collapse. No-one I know would separate Stalin and Hitler in terms of tyrannical inhumanity. I certainly don't.



And I accept that the Jews have been very much more successful in maintaining the Holocaust as a significant event in their history, and I further accept that they use it to justify their conduct. They are the epitome of the use of victimhood to gain advantage.



I have no love for ANY state that is based on religion. They are as tyrannical and despotic as any dictatorship. They simply substitute religion in lieu of political ideology.

You're right it isn't your mission, but considering the fact you appear to believe the Jewish version of the holocaust and vehemently reject any opposing views, I imagined you would have brought more to the table to support your argument.