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Zetsu

Quote from: "caskur"I'll use the quote system here better when I'm responding so you'll know which point I'm getting at to which person I am talking to.





My husband is home today and annoying me greatly.





China is a very, very big threat to Australia.





one of our Labor Prime Ministers, Julia Gillard gave a speech to the Chinese government... She wants China to prosper... I'm sure she wasn't referring to their upper echelon only. She meant, for the people in the country to prosper.





They aren't going to prosper on mainland China while health and safety concerns are largely ignored.


I do agree lack of moral is still a serious issue in China, especially in mainland China, but when it comes cause of death at work it's not all black and white, lack of concern for their worker I believe is a serious problem, corruption and cutting corners to save cost is another problem, and also lack of expertise and professional knowledge is a problem, working on projects that directors are unexperienced in similar to other developing nations are going through or the West have during the post-industrial revolution is a problem, in general China just has too many problems and just cause more problems than they can solve.
Permanently off his rocker

Zetsu

Quote from: "caskur"I'll give you a job as my head chef Zetsu if you can rustle me up some Char Kway Teow!



I'm going to be like Oprah when I win 22 million on lotto and hire myself a chef.


Tbh I never tried that dish or heard of it, but at least it looks tasty on google.  ac_cool  Though one thing I never understand is why a lot of White folks enjoy those China town food, my uncle from Hong Kong always calls it scamming foreigner food, lol.
Permanently off his rocker

caskur

Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "caskur"I'll give you a job as my head chef Zetsu if you can rustle me up some Char Kway Teow!



I'm going to be like Oprah when I win 22 million on lotto and hire myself a chef.


Tbh I never tried that dish or heard of it, but at least it looks tasty on google.  ac_cool  Though one thing I never understand is why a lot of White folks enjoy those China town food, my uncle from Hong Kong always calls it scamming foreigner food, lol.






Because rice noddles are so much nicer than bloody wheat noodles... They're not as heavy in the stomach.



My favourite Asian food is Thai and Vietnamese..



They cook Chinese too fatty in the western restaurants...





It's just the change... I love Indian as well but don't trust their hygeine practices...
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Anonymous

Quote from: "Zetsu"Sorry Caskur I just don't understand what exactly is your point, honestly your argument is all over the place.  First you're saying Apple and other investors are exploiting their workers, then deaths every year in mining and now Chinese hierarchy don't care about their citizens, I don't understand are you referring to the government or businesses, but there has been a minimum wage increase almost every year and labour protection law that have cause the QC of Chinese made goods to drop drastically.  Though one thing I agree is Chinese ppl have ethics issues in general, but I can't say is it b/c of this business owners treat their workers like they're disposable or just don't care what happens to them, on a spectrum I agree China is worst, but the West has it's fair shares of death at work place or disasters in the past too that isn't a lot better than China current state as they are right now due to drastic development and changes.

China today is like Taiwan was in the eighties..



It's making huge progress in improving the quality of life(labour for example) for it's citizens, but it's got a way to go yet..



Unlike most developing nations which don't seem to care about improving the lives of it's citizens, China deserves credit for what it has achieved in  just a few short decades..



China is using the same formula that the Asian dragons(Taiwan, South Korea, Hong Kong  and Singapore) followed with rapid economic growth that lifted millions out of poverty combined with authoritarian governments at the time..



The big difference is of course China is a massive country with 1.4 billion people while the Asian dragons are small..



It will take longer for China to reach the level of human development that Taiwan and South Korea enjoy today..



And they may never quite get there with a permanent rural underclass.

Frood

Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "caskur"I'll give you a job as my head chef Zetsu if you can rustle me up some Char Kway Teow!



I'm going to be like Oprah when I win 22 million on lotto and hire myself a chef.


Tbh I never tried that dish or heard of it, but at least it looks tasty on google.  ac_cool  Though one thing I never understand is why a lot of White folks enjoy those China town food, my uncle from Hong Kong always calls it scamming foreigner food, lol.


Caskur has to pay to eat what she thinks are Asian dishes just like North Americans think they're buying authentic Mexican food when they head out to Taco Bell or Chi Chi's.



It has components in it which are regionally flavoured but as a whole, what they're getting is fusion at best and a total balls up otherwise.


Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Zetsu"Sorry Caskur I just don't understand what exactly is your point, honestly your argument is all over the place.  First you're saying Apple and other investors are exploiting their workers, then deaths every year in mining and now Chinese hierarchy don't care about their citizens, I don't understand are you referring to the government or businesses, but there has been a minimum wage increase almost every year and labour protection law that have cause the QC of Chinese made goods to drop drastically.  Though one thing I agree is Chinese ppl have ethics issues in general, but I can't say is it b/c of this business owners treat their workers like they're disposable or just don't care what happens to them, on a spectrum I agree China is worst, but the West has it's fair shares of death at work place or disasters in the past too that isn't a lot better than China current state as they are right now due to drastic development and changes.

China today is like Taiwan was in the eighties..



It's making huge progress in improving the quality of life(labour for example) for it's citizens, but it's got a way to go yet..



Unlike most developing nations which don't seem to care about improving the lives of it's citizens, China deserves credit for what it has achieved in  just a few short decades..



China is using the same formula that the Asian dragons(Taiwan, South Korea, Hong Kong  and Singapore) followed with rapid economic growth that lifted millions out of poverty combined with authoritarian governments at the time..



The big difference is of course China is a massive country with 1.4 billion people while the Asian dragons are small..



It will take longer for China to reach the level of human development that Taiwan and South Korea enjoy today..



And they may never quite get there with a permanent rural underclass.


China is in some aspects where the USA is now and where it was just prior to WW1. It will probably lead to the US and China engaging in WW3, with numerous partners on either side, and we're all going to suffer for it.
Blahhhhhh...

caskur

Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"Caskur has to pay to eat what she thinks are Asian dishes just like North Americans think they're buying authentic Mexican food when they head out to Taco Bell or Chi Chi's.



It has components in it which are regionally flavoured but as a whole, what they're getting is fusion at best and a total balls up otherwise.  




I don't HAVE to do anything... I was merely too lazy to zip over to buy my flat rice noodles at the Asian market.... Asian cruisine isn't rocket science, pasta saunce man... The restaurant is in my suburb. Support your local businesses... You're such a food snob and really, you eat game, puke, just like an abo...YUK!


Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
China is in some aspects where the USA is now and where it was just prior to WW1. It will probably lead to the US and China engaging in WW3, with numerous partners on either side, and we're all going to suffer for it.




China needs the USA to buy it's rubbish lead infested products.



America owes a shit load of money to the Chinese workers who bought American bonds to keep America afloat. (poor Chinese workers suckered in again).



https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/05/chinas-1-point-2-trillion-weapon-that-could-be-used-in-a-us-trade-war.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/05/chinas- ... e-war.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/05/chinas-1-point-2-trillion-weapon-that-could-be-used-in-a-us-trade-war.html





Of course traditionally the USA are bad payers.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Frood

I have no idea of the intention of what you've said is. It reads like Braille by a lobotomized Speed addict on inhibitors.
Blahhhhhh...

caskur

#52
It was probably a reaction to the msg in my Char Kway Teow.



Workers all over China bought about $1000 worth of American bonds to get America out of the shit when Wall Street took a dive...  In other words the slave labour communists helped the worthless capitalist out of their bind. Really the American wankers should have been shot.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"


China is in some aspects where the USA is now and where it was just prior to WW1. It will probably lead to the US and China engaging in WW3, with numerous partners on either side, and we're all going to suffer for it.

China has no interest in being what the US is or like a colonial European power. They see their nation as the centre of the universe. And they watch the West destroy itself with costly green energy scams and turd world immigration. They are very good at biding their time and they way we are destroying ourselves from within we will all be vassal states sooner rather than later.

Anonymous

Quote from: "caskur"It was probably a reaction to the msg in my Char Kway Teow.



Workers all over China bought about $1000 worth of American bonds to get America out of the shit when Wall Street took a dive...  In other the slave labour communists helped the worthless capitalist out of their bind. Really the American wanker should have been shot.

Um no. In 2008, the U.S. experienced the precipitous crash of what had been a highly overvalued real estate and associated bond market. Those markets' prices had been driven by cheap credit used by investors to speculate in residential real estate and mortgage-related financial instruments. It was private debt.



Ironically, China is repeating the US mistake today. What China ultimately did was essentially, and ironically, to repeat what the U.S. had done in the first place — it engineered two domestic asset price bubbles of its own. First it targeted real estate, directing state-owned banks to extend credit on cheap terms for speculative residential and commercial real estate investments. Then it targeted stocks and other financial instruments, allowing and then encouraging lenders to facilitate purchases of speculative assets on margin.



Wealthy Chinese know something resembling the 2008 US mortgage crisis will hit China. This is why they are are tranferring their money out of China and to safe places like the USA. They have recaptialized American banks, strengthening that nasty captialist nation's financial system while weakening China.

Anonymous

QuoteChina needs the USA to buy it's rubbish lead infested products.

Actually, Australia needs China to buy it's natural resources more than China needs the USA to biy it's manufactured wares.


QuoteAmerica owes a shit load of money to the Chinese workers who bought American bonds to keep America afloat. (poor Chinese workers suckered in again).

China took the top spot among foreign creditors at $1.17 trillion, followed by Japan, at $1.07 trillion as of January 2018.



Japan and China own about 5.3% and 4.8% of the U.S. debt, respectively. Japanese-owned debt doesn't receive nearly as much negative attention as Chinese-owned debt, ostensibly because Japan is seen as a friendlier nation and the Japanese economy hasn't been growing at an 7% clip year after year.



On a per capita basis, Japan owns much more US debt than China. One of the main economic reasons why Chinese lenders bought up so many U.S. Treasuries is that China wants its own currency, the yuan, pegged to the dollar.



While around 5% of the national debt isn't exactly insignificant, the Treasury Department has had no problems finding buyers for its products even after a rating downgrade. If the Chinese suddenly decided to call in all of the federal government's obligations (which isn't possible, given the maturities of debt securities), it is very likely that others would step in to service the market. This includes the Federal Reserve, which already owns more than twice as much debt as China.



The Chinese owning the US is greatly exaggerated.

Berry Sweet


caskur

Quote from: "Herman"
QuoteChina needs the USA to buy it's rubbish lead infested products.

Actually, Australia needs China to buy it's natural resources more than China needs the USA to biy it's manufactured wares.




Yeah, that's the bullshit we've all been sold.... biggest load of crap ever...



Yeah, we are the world's mine alright.. And biggest load of greedy money grubbing swarm of carpet baggers descended on us. .



We could recycle our waste and completely cut the rest of the planet off and still live happily ever after.



China has built cities that haven't even been inhabited...  They probably owe us trillions and haven't paid their bills.



https://www.afr.com/news/world/asia/chinas-ghost-cities-and-their-multibilliondollar-debt-20180404-h0ybjz">https://www.afr.com/news/world/asia/chi ... 404-h0ybjz">https://www.afr.com/news/world/asia/chinas-ghost-cities-and-their-multibilliondollar-debt-20180404-h0ybjz
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

caskur

Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"


China is in some aspects where the USA is now and where it was just prior to WW1. It will probably lead to the US and China engaging in WW3, with numerous partners on either side, and we're all going to suffer for it.

China has no interest in being what the US is or like a colonial European power. They see their nation as the centre of the universe. And they watch the West destroy itself with costly green energy scams and turd world immigration. They are very good at biding their time and they way we are destroying ourselves from within we will all be vassal states sooner rather than later.




One decent bird flu stike will take out a 1/3 of China, maybe more.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Anonymous

Quote from: "caskur"


Yeah, that's the bullshit we've all been sold.... biggest load of crap ever...



Yeah, we are the world's mine alright.. And biggest load of greedy money grubbing swarm of carpet baggers descended on us. .



We could recycle our waste and completely cut the rest of the planet off and still live happily ever after.



China has built cities that haven't even been inhabited...  They probably owe us trillions and haven't paid their bills.

Greed doesn't even  enter into it..



Be thankful you are able to get your most valuable resources to market..



This country has the world's third largest proven reserves of recoverable oil and we are forced to sell it to the USA  at a fifty per cent discount because we can't get pipelines to tidewater and international markets like China and international prices..



Meanwhile the USA  is now the world's biggest producer of oil and will need our crude even less..



The lack of access to international markets costs this country over one hundred million dollars a day not to mention billions of dollars in foreign investment  and  the thousands of good mortgage paying jobs that go along with that..



As for China wasting infrastructure money, that money is owed to Chinese, not Australians.

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