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I started this thread as a catch all for next year's American presidential election. Not so much about policy platforms, but polling,primaries, and predictions.

53 percent in new poll say they would not support Trump if he is GOP nominee

More than half of Americans surveyed said they would not support former President Trump in the 2024 general election if he is the Republican nominee, according to a poll released Wednesday.

The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll found that 53 percent of Americans said they would definitely not support Trump if he was the nominee. Another 11 percent saying that they would probably not support him.

These new numbers come as GOP support for Trump has seemingly grown since April, even as the former president faces a number of legal challenges.

Sixty-three percent of Republicans in the poll say they want Trump to run again, which is slightly up from April — when 55 percent answered the same way. About 7 in 10 Republicans also now have a favorable view of the former president, up from 60 percent just two months ago.

Nearly three-quarters of Republicans also said they would support Trump if he becomes the GOP nominee, according to the poll, which was conducted before Trump and 18 allies were indicted Monday in Georgia related to efforts to overturn the 2020 election in the state.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4154705-53-percent-in-new-poll-say-they-would-not-support-trump-if-nominated/

I signed up at the Virginia Green Party web site specifically so I can vote in their primary for Dr. Cornell West. If he's the Green nominee that's who I'll vote for in the general election.

If the Greens nominate anyone else my vote will depend on their positions; if they aren't where I need them to be especially on Ukraine and Julian Assange I'll submit an invalid write-in vote for a person yet to be determined.

I don't vote for duopoly candidates.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on August 16, 2023, 03:35:43 PMI signed up at the Virginia Green Party web site specifically so I can vote in their primary for Dr. Cornell West. If he's the Green nominee that's who I'll vote for in the general election.

If the Greens nominate anyone else my vote will depend on their positions; if they aren't where I need them to be especially on Ukraine and Julian Assange I'll submit an invalid write-in vote for a person yet to be determined.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on August 16, 2023, 03:35:43 PMI signed up at the Virginia Green Party web site specifically so I can vote in their primary for Dr. Cornell West. If he's the Green nominee that's who I'll vote for in the general election.

If the Greens nominate anyone else my vote will depend on their positions; if they aren't where I need them to be especially on Ukraine and Julian Assange I'll submit an invalid write-in vote for a person yet to be determined.

I don't vote for duopoly candidates.

I don't vote for duopoly candidates.

Have you given any consideration to modding this sub? You are the perfect candidate for the job. If you do, would you like guest posting?

Quote from: DKG on August 16, 2023, 03:48:17 PMHave you given any consideration to modding this sub? You are the perfect candidate for the job. If you do, would you like guest posting?

I saw that mentioned and have given it some consideration.

My first impression was:
Does this sub actually *need* its own Mod? A major advantage of sites with a relatively small userbase are that between the Admin and a Global or two that's all  that's really necessary to keep an eye on things.

Admittedly I don't come close to reading every thread in Politics or even half of them come to that, but I can't recall a single instance where I thought to myself: "Boy, we sure could use a Mod right about now." To me at least it just seems like a job title with literally no duties or tasks to perform.

The people here currently are all forum veterans and demonstrably capable as individuals of coloring between the lines insofar as the forum's guidelines are concerned.

So I guess to begin with I'd need to be convinced this sub specifically actually *needs* Mod, then we can go from there.

As for Guest posting: I'll just say I'm not a fan. /shrug

Quote from: Garraty_47 on August 16, 2023, 04:12:38 PMI saw that mentioned and have given it some consideration.

My first impression was:
Does this sub actually *need* its own Mod? A major advantage of sites with a relatively small userbase are that between the Admin and a Global or two that's all  that's really necessary to keep an eye on things.

Admittedly I don't come close to reading every thread in Politics or even half of them come to that, but I can't recall a single instance where I thought to myself: "Boy, we sure could use a Mod right about now." To me at least it just seems like a job title with literally no duties or tasks to perform.

The people here currently are all forum veterans and demonstrably capable as individuals of coloring between the lines insofar as the forum's guidelines are concerned.

So I guess to begin with I'd need to be convinced this sub specifically actually *needs* Mod, then we can go from there.

As for Guest posting: I'll just say I'm not a fan. /shrug

The idea behind making you a mod was not that Politics needs it, as it is you are politically different from most posters here. Let's say, I modded it. If Lotusbud was to drop by again, she will not post in this sub because I am so fiscally conservative and even though I hate censorship, I would be accused of panel abuse.

Quote from: DKG on August 16, 2023, 04:21:06 PMThe idea behind making you a mod was not that Politics needs it, as it is you are politically different from most posters here. Let's say, I modded it. If Lotusbud was to drop by again, she will not post in this sub because I am so fiscally conservative and even though I hate censorship, I would be accused of panel abuse.

I see what you're saying but it still looks like a hypothetical non-issue to me. If you didn't do anything to her post she could hardly accuse you of panel abuse and if she posted something that deserved moderation why would it make a difference if she mischaracterized the legitimate action?

I would suspect any reticence more likely to stem from being greatly outnumbered by users with opposing views and that's got nothing to do with whether or not a Mod is present. That's just demographics.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on August 16, 2023, 04:51:08 PMI see what you're saying but it still looks like a hypothetical non-issue to me. If you didn't do anything to her post she could hardly accuse you of panel abuse and if she posted something that deserved moderation why would it make a difference if she mischaracterized the legitimate action?

I would suspect any reticence more likely to stem from being greatly outnumbered by users with opposing views and that's got nothing to do with whether or not a Mod is present. That's just demographics.

It's not hypothetical. With Lotusbud it is, but the accusation happened recently. Do you know a poster who uses the handle Joe? Recently he accused Biggie Smiles and myself of restricting his access to certain forums on the board because of his political views. Biggie told him to post a screenshot and of course he couldn't because it was a flat out lie.

If you were a mod here, that accusation from center left posters would not happen. Unless they say you are a conservative's uncle Tom.

Daddy owes you kids!!!

Quote from: DKG on August 16, 2023, 05:13:06 PMIt's not hypothetical. With Lotusbud it is, but the accusation happened recently. Do you know a poster who uses the handle Joe? Recently he accused Biggie Smiles and myself of restricting his access to certain forums on the board because of his political views. Biggie told him to post a screenshot and of course he couldn't because it was a flat out lie.

If you were a mod here, that accusation from center left posters would not happen. Unless they say you are a conservative's uncle Tom.

Joe is a bullshitting troll. Old Garraty knows that.

Quote from: Herman on August 16, 2023, 07:08:10 PMJoe is a bullshitting troll. Old Garraty knows that.

I think Joe's just a lonely old fuck with too much time on his hands.

Oh wait!  Maybe that's me.   :Doh2:

Joe is harmless

but he seems to piss people off

I gotta respect his gangster

He sent that pompous Tranny idiot Blurt right through the fucking roof

Blurt was trying to impress everyone with his breadth of knowledge about everything and Joe called him a "Googlectual"

I heard he lost his fucking shit  :crampe:

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 16, 2023, 07:39:42 PMJoe is harmless

but he seems to piss people off

I gotta respect his gangster

He sent that pompous Tranny idiot Blurt right through the fucking roof

Blurt was trying to impress everyone with his breadth of knowledge about everything and Joe called him a "Googlectual"

I heard he lost his fucking shit  :crampe:

Blurt's a pedantic douche.  Good on Joe.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on August 16, 2023, 07:39:42 PMJoe is harmless

but he seems to piss people off

I gotta respect his gangster

He sent that pompous Tranny idiot Blurt right through the fucking roof

Blurt was trying to impress everyone with his breadth of knowledge about everything and Joe called him a "Googlectual"

I heard he lost his fucking shit  :crampe:

He is an equal opportunity troll, I will give him that. If he posts serious topics, I do not take it seriously because I know he is bullshitting for a reaction.

Quote from: Gurk_MacGuintey on August 16, 2023, 07:42:47 PMBlurt's a pedantic douche.  Good on Joe.

He really is.

A sniping little sissy that waits for people to get banned to skip on in and take cheap shots.

He did that shit to Dove several times

Quote from: Herman on August 16, 2023, 07:44:07 PMHe is an equal opportunity troll, I will give him that. If he posts serious topics, I do not take it seriously because I know he is bullshitting for a reaction.

you nailed him

And I don't think I've ever seen him break character. He rarely even hits back when attacked.

He just keeps chugging away at pissing his targets off

I respect that

Quote from: DKG on August 16, 2023, 05:13:06 PMIf you were a mod here, that accusation from center left posters would not happen. Unless they say you are a conservative's uncle Tom.

I am, on any given day, one or more of the following:

Putin Puppet
Trumpist
Alt-Right
Secret Conservative
Bernie Bro
Commie
...and a few I can't recall at the moment.

Mind you that's just coming from the democrats; the republicans have their own list of things I am (not).

LoL

Kidding aside though- in my experience if someone wants to falsely claim they've been Goderated they won't have any qualms about hanging the accusation around my neck, or claiming it was a Global/Admin, or whatever. I think you're worrying about something there's fuckall you can do to prevent anyway.

You shouldn't do that... it'll drive you crazy. Heh

Quote from: Garraty_47 on August 16, 2023, 03:35:43 PMI signed up at the Virginia Green Party web site specifically so I can vote in their primary for Dr. Cornell West. If he's the Green nominee that's who I'll vote for in the general election.

If the Greens nominate anyone else my vote will depend on their positions; if they aren't where I need them to be especially on Ukraine and Julian Assange I'll submit an invalid write-in vote for a person yet to be determined.

I don't vote for duopoly candidates.

How do feel about Robert F Kennedy jr?

Quote from: Thiel on August 16, 2023, 10:52:27 PMHow do feel about Robert F Kennedy jr?

Running as a democrat = nope

But there are also plenty of reasons to say nope to him personally, from the way he changes his tune depending on his audience to his Israel stance and etc. etc.

At the end of the day he's a creature of the establishment who happens to have some good covid takes but he's a creature of the establishment so once he's in power anything he's said previously won't necessarily be worth a handful of shit.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on August 16, 2023, 11:52:12 PMRunning as a democrat = nope

But there are also plenty of reasons to say nope to him personally, from the way he changes his tune depending on his audience to his Israel stance and etc. etc.

At the end of the day he's a creature of the establishment who happens to have some good covid takes but he's a creature of the establishment so once he's in power anything he's said previously won't necessarily be worth a handful of shit.

That is a fairly accurate assessment of Mr Kennedy. I have seen him contradict himself.

I hope RFK JR runs as an independent. He could beat Biden and Trump.

I hope RFK runs as an independent too. I'm looking forward to berring up over the sight of Cheryl Hines neinie wiggling about as she attempts to shovel her husband's brains back into his skull in Dallas.

Trump may not participate in next week's Republican debate. Any candidate that won't debate challengers should not be a candidate for their party. That includes Biden who will not debate RFK.

Quote from: DKG on August 17, 2023, 10:53:36 AMTrump may not participate in next week's Republican debate. Any candidate that won't debate challengers should not be a candidate for their party. That includes Biden who will not debate RFK.

Trump is smart. He's not about to let the RINO cunts that stole the first 2 years of his Presidency railroad him out of the nom like he's Bernie the fukin loon. I'm about so pissed off over all the history of the GOP fucking him over, I'll just stay the fuck home in 24 if he isnt the nom and it remotely appears that he was railroaded. I'm not about to tolerate anymore of the fuckery.

The rest of the clowns can fight out the first few debates to see who gets traction. Once its down to about 3, Trump should debate them. Besides, a packed field watering shit down making it easy for Trump is what all these cunt GOP'ers have been bellyaching about ever since Trump got the nom last time, or am I fukin wrong about that? That pledge aint worth fuk. You gonna try to convince me Crisp Crispie is gonna honor his pledge and get on the Trump Train without constant backhanded snark when Trumps the nom? HELL NAW!!!!!

Trumps been at 50% plus for how long now and all I fucking hear from the media is how he should drop out. LMFAO! If the field was REMOTELY evenly split, I'd agree that he should debate them right off the bat. Fuk that pledge tho!

Remember Trump calling Biden, Hidin Biden? He has to be at the debates or he should withdraw.

Quote from: DKG on August 17, 2023, 02:27:52 PMRemember Trump calling Biden, Hidin Biden? He has to be at the debates or he should withdraw.

Sure, I remember it. Biden hid from interviews, held very few public appearances, and the ones he did had a controlled group of people seated 6' apart.

I'd be happy to listen to how Trump has similarly made himself unavailable to the people.

Secondly, Trump doesnt have to do anything.

Quote from: Lokmar on August 17, 2023, 02:52:13 PMSure, I remember it. Biden hid from interviews, held very few public appearances, and the ones he did had a controlled group of people seated 6' apart.

I'd be happy to listen to how Trump has similarly made himself unavailable to the people.

Secondly, Trump doesnt have to do anything.

All candidates must appear at debates period. And I am not just singling out Trump. Chris Christie too.

Quote from: DKG on August 17, 2023, 02:57:13 PMAll candidates must appear at debates period. And I am not just singling out Trump. Chris Christie too.

Thats far different than Trump acting like Biden.

Quote from: DKG on August 17, 2023, 02:57:13 PMAll candidates must appear at debates period. And I am not just singling out Trump. Chris Christie too.

That does not appear to reflect reality.

I love watching the unipartyist schills demanding a technical incumbent put in an appearance when said incumbent is being so visibly interfered with on the campaign trail. All it does is makes me laugh, knowing that candidate scares the utter shit out of them, confirming to me that out of all the people in the field, Trump is the guy who should be the nominee in 2024.

And that if he isn't, that he should be a write in candidate on the ballot. Fuck the unipartyists who would insist on a De Santis or a Ram His Rajah, I won't be casting a ballot for some puppet of the establishment ever again.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on August 17, 2023, 04:17:35 PMI love watching the unipartyist schills demanding a technical incumbent put in an appearance when said incumbent is being so visibly interfered with on the campaign trail. All it does is makes me laugh, knowing that candidate scares the utter shit out of them, confirming to me that out of all the people in the field, Trump is the guy who should be the nominee in 2024.

And that if he isn't, that he should be a write in candidate on the ballot. Fuck the unipartyists who would insist on a De Santis or a Ram His Rajah, I won't be casting a ballot for some puppet of the establishment ever again.

Is RFK a shill? It works both ways. No candidate should be allowed to get out of a debate. In Canada, it is the main party leaders trying to keep out smaller party leaders like Max Bernier.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on August 17, 2023, 04:17:35 PMI love watching the unipartyist schills demanding a technical incumbent put in an appearance when said incumbent is being so visibly interfered with on the campaign trail. All it does is makes me laugh, knowing that candidate scares the utter shit out of them, confirming to me that out of all the people in the field, Trump is the guy who should be the nominee in 2024.

And that if he isn't, that he should be a write in candidate on the ballot. Fuck the unipartyists who would insist on a De Santis or a Ram His Rajah, I won't be casting a ballot for some puppet of the establishment ever again.

I thought you were a foreigner. 

I agree with all that, but I was under the impression you don't voate here in the US.

Quote from: DKG on August 17, 2023, 04:29:17 PMIs RFK a shill? It works both ways. No candidate should be allowed to get out of a debate. In Canada, it is the main party leaders trying to keep out smaller party leaders like Max Bernier.

The political calculation is that Trump has nothing to lose by not debating when he is so far ahead in the polls.

I can see both sides of the question, and would still enjoy watching Trump be Trump on a debate stage, but he would have nothing really to gain and too much to lose to offset.

Quote from: Gurk_MacGuintey on August 17, 2023, 04:34:17 PMThe political calculation is that Trump has nothing to lose by not debating when he is so far ahead in the polls.

I can see both sides of the question, and would still enjoy watching Trump be Trump on a debate stage, but he would have nothing really to gain and too much to lose to offset.

That is the same calculation the Dem establishment is making by not letting Biden debate Kennedy. Protecting a big lead is not an excuse to get out of debates.

Quote from: DKG on August 17, 2023, 04:46:34 PMThat is the same calculation the Dem establishment is making by not letting Biden debate Kennedy. Protecting a big lead is not an excuse to get out of debates.

I think in Biden's case they just want to keep the dunce out of the public eye as much as possible.

I don't think Biden will be the Dem candidate next year.  Just a feeling.

People seem to forget that the duopoly, as private corporate entities, can and do make up their own rules then arbitrarily change or break them regardless of how voters feel because they aren't legally required to give any fucks about how voters feel and their shareholders (donor class and oligarchs) definitely don't want them to give any fucks about how voters feel.

Red/Blue politics has always been a scam; it's only more apparent now because the corruption has started taking precedence over the appearance of legitimacy.

#TranscendTheDuopoly

Trump is a troll....a level 10,000 troll. Most of the reason he's telling the RNC GFY on the first debate is because he knows the long knives are out for him so he's pissing all over their faces to show em who's boss. How dare he? Mofo is at 60% support AT LEAST!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=civuoU_NE38


Who are you to wave your finger?
Ya' must have been out your head.
Eye hole deep in muddy waters.
You practically raised the dead.

Rob the grave, to snow the cradle.
Then burn the evidence down.
Soapbox, house of cards, and glass,
So don't go tossin' your stones around.

You must have been high.
You must have been high.
You must have been.

Foot in mouth, and head up asshole.
Whatcha talkin' 'bout?
Difficult to dance 'round this one
'til you pull it out, boy!

You must have been, so high.
You must have been, so high.

Steal, borrow, refer, save your shady inference.
King Guru done hung the juror with the innocent.

Now you're weeping shades of cozened indigo
Got lemon juice up in your...EYE!

When you pissed all over my black kettle
You must have been HIGH, HIGH
You must have been HIGH, HIGH

Who are you to wave your finger?
So full of it.
Eyeballs deep in muddy waters
Fuckin' hypocrite.

Liar, lawyer, mirror, show me.
What's the difference?

Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

NOW!!
You'll weep or, change the chosen into gold.
Got lemon juice up in your high! eye!
When you pissed all over my black kettle
You musta been!

So who are you to wave your finger?
Who are you to wave your mighty fingers at me?
You must, have been, out your, mind!

Reefer chased off indigo
Trapped without a reason
Reefer chased off indigo

Liar, lawyer,
Mirror for ya,
What's the difference?
Kangaroo be stoned
He's guilty as the government

NOW!!
Will you weep or, change the chosen into gold
Got lemon juice up in your, EYE!!
EYE!!

Now when you pissed all over my black kettle.
You musta been HIGH, HIGH, HIGH, HIGH.
Eyeballs deep in muddy waters
Your're balls deep in muddy waters.
Ganja Police, you must, have been, out your MIND!!!!

Quote from: DKG on August 17, 2023, 04:29:17 PMIs RFK a shill? It works both ways. No candidate should be allowed to get out of a debate. In Canada, it is the main party leaders trying to keep out smaller party leaders like Max Bernier.

You want something that works both ways, cast your mind back to the 2015 Democratic Primaries and what happened to that party when the front runner candidate was screwed out of the nomination "because reasons". How that party lost so much of its support as a result of handing it to Hillary, with large numbers of the base deserting the party because it had willfully deserted its constituents. No amount of "Blue no matter who" platitudes could stop it.

Or perhaps, if you're so hung up on the idea of debates being a qualifier, you might remember how many debates Beijing Biden skipped out on in the lead up to 2020. A similar case of precedent being established, though I suppose you'll happily point out that a long tradition of precedent be overturned because the Democrats are just such amazing champions of doing just that.

Your reek of being a Never Trumper precedes you. Tough. His in-party support is the equivalent of the combined support for all the Also-Rans; if you think for one minute that you can champion the Uniparty effort by pissing on the wishes of half the support base then NO amount of steal is going to save you from the fate of hitting your head on the same glass ceiling Hillary Clithorn did. You will lose that support. The more astute among us recognise there are only so many hours in the day, and with the levels of election interference being visibly waged against its most popular incumbent, I put it to you that your cawing that this should indirectly be the reason to kick The Don to the curb is both short sighted AND disingenuous. We know what Donald Trump's policies are - we've seen them in action and we have heard them reiterated on CNN's Town Hall. Failing to front the voluminous and trumped up legal charges being thrown at him like so much geriatric nappy batter just to appease the hypocritical claim that this particular nominee can trade barbs on a failing media platform is patently ridiculous, unreasonable and completely unnecessary. 

But the real kicker? The real reason why your uniparty-backed pretenders will not get a look-in? Donald Trump has already shown he was capable of beating the odds and triumphing before. Ain't nothing more American than a guy with all the chips stacked against him coming out on top. It's the stuff American heroes are made of. That's why indictment after indictment has only served to push his approval rating higher. We know the corruption he is up against, we know the Establishment is shitting its pants over a further four years so it doesn't greatly matter who you run against him, in party or without. You could assassinate him at the point and people would still write him in.

Not because he is expected to win, but because voting for him is the biggest "Fuck You" that a large swathe of the voting public can send to a system that had demonstrated its intent to fuck over the Average Joe, no matter what letter happens to adorn the successful applicant's name.

You either make it work for you... or you lose. Again.

Quote from: Reggie Essent on August 17, 2023, 04:31:23 PMI thought you were a foreigner. 

I agree with all that, but I was under the impression you don't voate here in the US.

That's nice.

Donald Trump plans to skip the first Republican debate hosted by Fox News on Wednesday in Milwaukee for an interview with ex-Fox host Tucker Carlson.

Quote from: Herman on August 18, 2023, 06:54:14 PMDonald Trump plans to skip the first Republican debate hosted by Fox News on Wednesday in Milwaukee for an interview with ex-Fox host Tucker Carlson.

Smart move, removing the oxygen from the debates like that. Watch FOX's ratings utterly tank during the Tucker interview and its immediate aftermath as the Dinosaur Media attempts to run damage control on anything that transpires during Trump's interview,

He should take up Joe Rogan's offer next.

The Republican debate was tonight. Did anybody see it? Who won?

Mike Pence loudly booed by crowd after being 'obliterated' by Vivek Ramaswamy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbcPX1aWhlU

https://www.bitchute.com/video/9mqFVAa03v0/

Quote from: Herman on August 23, 2023, 11:02:25 PMThe Republican debate was tonight. Did anybody see it? Who won?

It wasn't on tv here went to Rumble but got too much stuttering guess I'll watch the clips today.

Quote from: Herman on August 23, 2023, 11:02:25 PMThe Republican debate was tonight. Did anybody see it? Who won?

Vivek and Ron won handily.

Quote from: Herman on August 23, 2023, 11:55:07 PMMike Pence loudly booed by crowd after being 'obliterated' by Vivek Ramaswamy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbcPX1aWhlU

That stupid asshole shot himself in the nuts repeatedly. He was the most hated candidate up there. He comes off smug, self important, and self aggrandizing. He also tried to claim all the credit for Trump policies that we all know came from Trump. Fuk that guy!!!

i think Larry Elder got a raw deal.... i like that gentleman.... but Tim Scott represents himself well....

Months ago Vivek Ramaswamy said climate change exists and man contributes to it. During the first debate, he dismissed it.

Joe Biden in Tahoe. The crowd gives him an appropriate reception.

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1695165808903868455

It has started. CNN says that Ramaswamy defends the KKK.

Ramaswamy defends comments about White supremacy and the KKK
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/08/27/vivek-ramaswamy-white-supremacy-kkk-ayanna-pressley-iowa-sotu-vpx.cnn

Quote from: Herman on August 27, 2023, 11:59:39 PMIt has started. CNN says that Ramaswamy defends the KKK.

Well thank god it's CNN or somebody might see it.

Trump extended his lead over his Republican nomination rivals in a series of polls conducted since the release of his mugshot in Fulton county after he surrendered on charges that he conspired to subvert the 2020 election in Georgia and his absence from the first GOP primary debate.

That outcome has been a trend for Trump who has seen polling and fundraising boosts with each indictment this year – in the hush-money case in New York, in the classified documents case in Florida, and in the federal 2020 election subversion case in Washington.

Overall, Trump polled at 58% compared with DeSantis at 13% among roughly 2,700 likely Republican primary voters surveyed by Coefficient, improving his lead by three points since the start of the month. No other candidate topped 10%.

The Trump campaign polling was consistent with a Morning Consult poll which found Trump's lead unshaken in the immediate aftermath of the release of his mugshot and the first Republican primary debate, with Trump at 58%, DeSantis at 14% and no other candidate again above 10%.

The survey found that even if all the other candidates withdrew for a unified opposition against Trump, the former president would win the hypothetical head-to-head race against DeSantis by almost a two-to-one margin, 62% to 23%.

Those of us who do not want Trump as the GOP nominee are really disappointed in the Dems. Not because they abused their authority to persecute their political enemies. The Dems are inherently corrupt, so I expect that. What bothers us is they are making Trump a living martyr.

DeSantis, sadly, doesn't seem to have the personality to really motivate people even though his policies are great.  Vivek isn't a contender but would make a nice figure in an administration.  The rest are pretty much garbage and just running to try to elevate their profile and sell books.

Trump will be the nominee but he will lose.  Republicans remain fools because they aren't getting into ballot harvesting to fight fire with fire so Dems will just repeat 2020 and 2022 with late night dumps of questionable ballots in all the key states.  Republicans have already lost but they haven't figured it out yet.  Biden will remain brain dead, drooling on himself, and shitting his pants but Dems will keep him in place as a useless corpse while the insiders do whatever they want.

Quote from: Oerdin on August 30, 2023, 07:36:35 PMTrump will be the nominee but he will lose.

Don't be too sure about that.
The democrats have been very busy starting in 2020 alienating every demographic they "need" to win elections.

Too many of the voters the democrats have been accustomed to taking for granted are fed up with their bullshit. As things stand, simply running on "we're slightly better than republicans" and "scary orange man!" probably won't cut it this time. We've already seen how much "better" democrats are at governance and the results are... underwhelming. And if Joe wanted to paint himself as the sane and rational alternative maybe he shouldn't have tried to start WW3 via a proxy war that's already cost the USA tens of billions of dollars with no end in sight.

When you add in Joe's rapidly deteriorating mental state on top of everything else he's quite far from an easy victory in 2024 no matter who the republicans run.

The icing on that particular cake is a known and popular Green party candidate in Brother West. Cornell can't "take away" my vote from Joe since the democrats never had it to begin with but people who decide to shun the duopoly and vote 3rd party this cycle were probably going to vote for Joe (bless their hearts).

I give Don a much higher than 50/50 chance to be president again... more like 60/40 or even better.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on August 30, 2023, 09:38:06 PMDon't be too sure about that.
The democrats have been very busy starting in 2020 alienating every demographic they "need" to win elections.

Too many of the voters the democrats have been accustomed to taking for granted are fed up with their bullshit. As things stand, simply running on "we're slightly better than republicans" and "scary orange man!" probably won't cut it this time. We've already seen how much "better" democrats are at governance and the results are... underwhelming. And if Joe wanted to paint himself as the sane and rational alternative maybe he shouldn't have tried to start WW3 via a proxy war that's already cost the USA tens of billions of dollars with no end in sight.

When you add in Joe's rapidly deteriorating mental state on top of everything else he's quite far from an easy victory in 2024 no matter who the republicans run.

The icing on that particular cake is a known and popular Green party candidate in Brother West. Cornell can't "take away" my vote from Joe since the democrats never had it to begin with but people who decide to shun the duopoly and vote 3rd party this cycle were probably going to vote for Joe (bless their hearts).

I give Don a much higher than 50/50 chance to be president again... more like 60/40 or even better.

Bravo.   :sign0098:

Quote from: Oerdin on August 30, 2023, 07:36:35 PMDeSantis, sadly, doesn't seem to have the personality to really motivate people even though his policies are great.  Vivek isn't a contender but would make a nice figure in an administration.  The rest are pretty much garbage and just running to try to elevate their profile and sell books.

Trump will be the nominee but he will lose.  Republicans remain fools because they aren't getting into ballot harvesting to fight fire with fire so Dems will just repeat 2020 and 2022 with late night dumps of questionable ballots in all the key states.  Republicans have already lost but they haven't figured it out yet.  Biden will remain brain dead, drooling on himself, and shitting his pants but Dems will keep him in place as a useless corpse while the insiders do whatever they want.

Rather than corrupting the election even further, I prefer a civil war.

Quote from: Lokmar on August 30, 2023, 09:52:14 PMRather than corrupting the election even further, I prefer a civil war.

:omg:

An overwhelming 73% of Republican voters said in a recent poll that Trump should have participated in the first Republican presidential primary debate against his GOP competitors.

Quote from: Lokmar on August 30, 2023, 09:52:14 PMRather than corrupting the election even further, I prefer a civil war.

Funny you should mention war. Apparently Alexa has something to say about that.


https://www.bitchute.com/video/BSsVMS3NRJJm/


So... the 2024 election won't be held at all and the governing party shall remain in office for as long as it takes the war to run? Sounds.... legit.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on September 02, 2023, 09:32:42 AMFunny you should mention war. Apparently Alexa has something to say about that.


https://www.bitchute.com/video/BSsVMS3NRJJm/


So... the 2024 election won't be held at all and the governing party shall remain in office for as long as it takes the war to run? Sounds.... legit.

Hopefully, china and russia nuke the FUK outta DC!

Quote from: Lokmar on September 03, 2023, 02:30:06 AMHopefully, china and russia nuke the FUK outta DC!

You want the democrats to seize control of the US indefinately???

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on September 03, 2023, 03:11:34 AMYou want the democrats to seize control of the US indefinately???

I dont believe that would be the end result. In fact, I believe that would destroy the shackles democrats and libs have on government. It would result in a blood bath where at least 40% to 60% would die IMO.

Quote from: Lokmar on September 03, 2023, 02:05:33 PMI dont believe that would be the end result. In fact, I believe that would destroy the shackles democrats and libs have on government. It would result in a blood bath where at least 40% to 60% would die IMO.

Still, interesting that Alexa would say that war powers were going to be invoked in lieu of an election next year. And to be honest I can half believe the democrats would even consider trying it when their overreaching efforts to sideline Trump falls flat.

George Soros's foundation is worried that former President Donald Trump will win the 2024 election and undermine globalist "unity," while warning of supposed harms coming from a potential "MAGA-style Republican victory" more generally.

The Open Society Foundations (OSF), which Mr. Soros' 37-year-old son, Alex Soros now leads, is "adapting" so that it's able to respond to whatever political scenario emerges after the dust settles from next year's presidential election in America.
"We are adapting OSF to be able to respond to whatever scenarios might emerge, on both sides of the Atlantic," George Soros' son wrote in a recent op-ed for Politico headlined "No Soros retreat from Europe."

Is Tulsi Gabbard planning on entering the race, possibly as an independent. Watch from 3:05 on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvqkQ-LnF8I

Quote from: Herman on September 06, 2023, 10:50:15 PMIs Tulsi Gabbard planning on entering the race, possibly as an independent. Watch from 3:05 on.

I think the most likely vehicle for a Tulsi run, at this time, is the 'No Labels' party but they seem to already be teeing up Manchin or someone like that. If they ask her to be on their ticket though I wouldn't be surprised if she says 'Yes'.

She made a run at the nomination when she was a democrat so obviously she has ambitions in that regard.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on September 03, 2023, 09:59:20 PMStill, interesting that Alexa would say that war powers were going to be invoked in lieu of an election next year. And to be honest I can half believe the democrats would even consider trying it when their overreaching efforts to sideline Trump falls flat.

Both sides have been declaring that elections would be suspended at least since obama's first term. This may well become a self fulfilling prophecy in part because that kind of talk normalizes that kind of thought. Political players start to believe they can get away with it.

Personally, I've been trying to normalize the concept of a second American Civil War and have been openly advocating it on the internet since 1995. I believe I have made at least a small difference because its now widely accepted as possible. Of course the biggest thing that has made this thought more and more palatable is government jackbootery. Still, without open advocating for it, it wouldnt seem possible. Its so possible now that the brain dead cheated into office POTUS felt the need to openly threaten us with F-15's and nukes.

Tim Pool's in your corner, you may yet get your chance

CNN anchor Dana Bash declared Thursday that it's impossible "to spin" the network's latest poll showing a dismal outlook for President Joe Biden.

The poll found that Biden's job approval is just 39%, the lowest rating since the height of the inflation crisis last year. Even worse, the survey found that in a hypothetical rematch for the White House between Biden and Donald Trump, Trump would win: 47% to 46%.

But the knockout blow, the poll found, is that two-thirds (67%) of Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters want the Democratic Party to nominate someone other than Biden in 2024.

 Biden's approval rating at this point in his presidency is the second-worst in the modern era — only Jimmy Carter's was worse — which suggests he is on track to lose re-election.

Meanwhile, CNN senior data reporter Harry Enten explained why this poll shows a "vastly different" landscape compared to 2020.

"[W]hat I will note was there was not a single poll conducted by CNN during the entire 2020 cycle in which Donald Trump got a higher share of the vote than Joe Biden did," he said. "So, this is a vastly different picture from what we saw four years ago."
https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1699797692396998823?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1699797692396998823%7Ctwgr%5Ecc579b137c2e016a1a9681b96c318ed7143216f8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Fcnn-poll-biden-no-spin

Even if Joe was in full possession of his mental faculties (which he's not, at all) he still wouldn't deserve to be president. Getting rid of him would be a good thing for the country. Whether or not his successor turns out to be any better is a completely separate discussion.

Joe's gotta go.

I really hate that skank, Dana Bash.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on September 07, 2023, 10:43:24 PMEven if Joe was in full possession of his mental faculties (which he's not, at all) he still wouldn't deserve to be president. Getting rid of him would be a good thing for the country. Whether or not his successor turns out to be any better is a completely separate discussion.

Joe's gotta go.

Go Brandon.

Quote from: Herman on September 07, 2023, 10:46:46 PMGo Brandon.

{raises his sword and begins smashing it on his shield, drawing in a great lungful of air to bellow the sacred ancient battle cry:}

"KAWAWA!"

:Doh2:

This is what it might come down to.

Supreme Court to Decide Whether to Kick Trump Off Ballot
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/supreme-court-to-decide-whether-to-kick-trump-off-ballot/ar-AA1ggNVn

The legal debate about whether or not former President Donald Trump should be allowed to appear on the 2024 ballot has made its way before the Supreme Court.

The court distributed John Castro v. Donald Trump to the justices for conference on Wednesday ahead of the upcoming term, which will begin on October 2. Conference is to take place on September 26 and the case is expected to be decided on or before October 9.

Castro, a longshot candidate for the Republican nomination next year, sent his petition to the Supreme Court last month, asking the justices to answer whether political candidates can challenge the eligibility of another candidate of the same party running for the same nomination "based on a political competitive injury in the form a diminution of votes."

The lawsuit is seeking to argue that Trump should not be allowed to run for the White House based on section three of the 14th Amendment, which disqualifies individuals from holding public office if they have "engaged in insurrection or rebellion" against the United States. While Trump has not been charged with insurrection, Castro is pointing to Trump's role in the January 6 Capitol riot.

"While Trump has not been charged with insurrection"

In a system that wasn't corrupt that's as far as any judge would read before laughing the motion out of his/her court.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on September 07, 2023, 11:01:43 PM"While Trump has not been charged with insurrection"

In a system that wasn't corrupt that's as far as any judge would read before laughing the motion out of his/her court.

It's Trump. He is guilty by accusation and can never be proven innocent.

South Dakota governor Kristi Noem is set to endorse Trump setting up vp chatter.

Quote from: Herman on September 10, 2023, 02:03:02 AMSouth Dakota governor Kristi Noem is set to endorse Trump setting up vp chatter.

Mike Pence basically in publicly worn high heels... I do not trust the bitch.

So many George H Bush VP options present themselves as fellow champions of the people once a populist runs.

I include Kari Lake in that too....

My response to Peter Daou cheerleading his new boss Cornel West on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/DBVitriol/status/1701774444765573462

Quote from: Garraty_47 on September 12, 2023, 10:22:43 PMMy response to Peter Daou cheerleading his new boss Cornel West on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/DBVitriol/status/1701774444765573462

I have heard of him, but I do not know anything about Peter Daou.

Quote from: DKG on September 12, 2023, 10:26:55 PMI have heard of him, but I do not know anything about Peter Daou.

First I can remember hearing his name was when he was an attack dog for Hillary Clinton. He also worked with/for David Brock (another despicable scrupleless hatchet man) at some point, maybe at the same time he was one of Hillary's hired guns.

That I know of he has since worked for John Kerry, Bernie Sanders, and most recently Marianne Williamson. All failed campaigns and in Bernie's case I'm pretty sure he acted as a DNC infiltrator/agent-provocateur.

He *claims* to have a new-found love for independent and 3rd party politics these past couple of years but he's a fucking snake who can't be trusted to mean anything he says. He's reversed course on basically every stance he's ever taken and hasn't even apologized for any of the horrific shit he's said/done in service to the DNC or the establishment.

West may as well have hired Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to be his campaign manager.

/spit

**UPDATE**

I've read that Daou actually did make a few half-assed apologies for *some* of the stuff he did surrounding Hillary's campaign but they were apparently so inadequate that I'd never heard them mentioned before.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on September 12, 2023, 10:40:44 PMFirst I can remember hearing his name was when he was an attack dog for Hillary Clinton. He also worked with/for David Brock (another despicable scrupleless hatchet man) at some point, maybe at the same time he was one of Hillary's hired guns.

That I know of he has since worked for John Kerry, Bernie Sanders, and most recently Marianne Williamson. All failed campaigns and in Bernie's case I'm pretty sure he acted as a DNC infiltrator/agent-provocateur.

He *claims* to have a new-found love for independent and 3rd party politics these past couple of years but he's a fucking snake who can't be trusted to mean anything he says. He's reversed course on basically every stance he's ever taken and hasn't even apologized for any of the horrific shit he's said/done in service to the DNC or the establishment.

West may as well have hired Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to be his campaign manager.

/spit

Very informative and very interesting. Thanks.

In a news release issued this week, former Ohio congressman and Democrat presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich stated that he believes the Democratic National Committee (DNC) "has created a class of pledged delegates, called Party Leaders and Elected Officials, who are essentially the same as superdelegates, due to the amount of control the party exercises over elected officials."

"This puts the DNC, once again, in the position of overturning the will of voters across the United States. It is unclear how overturning the nation's majority vote could be interpreted as trusting the people," Mr. Kucinich, who is serving as Mr. Kennedy's campaign manager, added in the release. "The DNC consults closely with Julie Chávez-Rodríguez, Manager of Joe Biden's campaign. Given that, and the DNC's commitment to neutrality in the primary process, we anticipate that Mr. Harrison will agree to the meeting," he also said.

After the 2016 primaries the DNC was served with a class-action lawsuit on behalf of Bernie Sanders supporters who claimed the DNC rigged the primary, defrauding Sanders and his supporters of a free and fair election.

The DNC lawyers argued that as a private institution the DNC didn't owe voters a fair election and didn't even need voters at all since it was their right to select any candidate they wanted however they saw fit.

The DNC won in court with that argument.

For anyone now to act surprised or indignant at the notion that the DNC would rig their own primary is either an expression of monumental ignorance or an act of intentional disinformation.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on September 12, 2023, 11:04:40 PMAfter the 2016 primaries the DNC was served with a class-action lawsuit on behalf of Bernie Sanders supporters who claimed the DNC rigged the primary, defrauding Sanders and his supporters of a free and fair election.

The DNC lawyers argued that as a private institution the DNC didn't owe voters a fair election and didn't even need voters at all since it was their right to select any candidate they wanted however they saw fit.

The DNC won in court with that argument.

For anyone now to act surprised or indignant at the notion that the DNC would rig their own primary is either an expression of monumental ignorance or an act of intentional disinformation.

It has been posted on this forum that the Democrats are the most corrupt political party in the G7. It is getting really hard to dispute that.

Quote from: DKG on September 12, 2023, 10:51:12 PMIn a news release issued this week, former Ohio congressman and Democrat presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich stated that he believes the Democratic National Committee (DNC) "has created a class of pledged delegates, called Party Leaders and Elected Officials, who are essentially the same as superdelegates, due to the amount of control the party exercises over elected officials."

"This puts the DNC, once again, in the position of overturning the will of voters across the United States. It is unclear how overturning the nation's majority vote could be interpreted as trusting the people," Mr. Kucinich, who is serving as Mr. Kennedy's campaign manager, added in the release. "The DNC consults closely with Julie Chávez-Rodríguez, Manager of Joe Biden's campaign. Given that, and the DNC's commitment to neutrality in the primary process, we anticipate that Mr. Harrison will agree to the meeting," he also said.

Dems hate democracy which is why the rig primaries.

It's even worse than I thought.
Et Tu, Jill?!?

https://twitter.com/DBVitriol/status/1701946537046106222

Mitt Romney is getting out while the getting is good -

By next month, the U.S. Supreme Court will have to make a decision on whether to take up a case on whether former President Donald Trump can be disqualified from running for office based on an interpretation of the 14th Amendment after a long-shot GOP presidential candidate filed a lawsuit.

Quote from: DKG on September 21, 2023, 03:20:35 PMBy next month, the U.S. Supreme Court will have to make a decision on whether to take up a case on whether former President Donald Trump can be disqualified from running for office based on an interpretation of the 14th Amendment after a long-shot GOP presidential candidate filed a lawsuit.

As I understand it the 14th amendment would only be applicable if Don was convicted of either treason or sedition... neither of which he's even been charged with.

At this time that lawsuit appears to be just more clickbait.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on September 21, 2023, 03:29:41 PMAs I understand it the 14th amendment would only be applicable if Don was convicted of either treason or sedition... neither of which he's even been charged with.

At this time that lawsuit appears to be just more clickbait.

LOL! Sounds like the makings of an upcoming indictment!

Quote from: Garraty_47 on September 21, 2023, 03:29:41 PMAs I understand it the 14th amendment would only be applicable if Don was convicted of either treason or sedition... neither of which he's even been charged with.

At this time that lawsuit appears to be just more clickbait.

It is an extreme longshot.

Quote from: Lokmar on September 21, 2023, 04:05:43 PMLOL! Sounds like the makings of an upcoming indictment!

You know they have a whole-ass squadron of lawyers searching for any straw they can grasp and that particular straw's the golden ticket if they can find (or manufacture) one.

I wouldn't be surprised if they try it but I will be surprised if it isn't laughed out of court.

Quote from: DKG on September 21, 2023, 03:20:35 PMBy next month, the U.S. Supreme Court will have to make a decision on whether to take up a case on whether former President Donald Trump can be disqualified from running for office based on an interpretation of the 14th Amendment after a long-shot GOP presidential candidate filed a lawsuit.

That B.S. case makes it perfectly clear that all of the cases are 100% politically motivated.

A shocking Washington Post/ABC News poll found that if the election were held today, Trump would crush Biden among registered voters, 52% to 42%.

Moreover, the survey found that Biden's job approval stands at a dismal 37% — a metric that in and of itself signals Biden will lose re-election — because the majority of Americans disapprove of Biden's handling of the economy and the border crisis.

To make matters worse for Biden, approximately two-thirds of Democratic voters and Democratic-leaning voters want the Democratic Party to nominate someone other than Biden in 2024. Most of those respondents aren't picky about who his successor is — they just want someone other than Biden.

Quote from: DKG on September 25, 2023, 07:59:39 PMMoreover, the survey found that Biden's job approval stands at a dismal 37%

Another recent poll had that number down to 32%.

The boy's toast and Kopmala is a non-starter.
No amount of Morning Joe tongue baths and CNN proclamations of "THIS IS FINE! EVERYTHING'S FINE!" are going to lift Biden out of that hole. The democrats can only do one thing: replace the entire ticket. Apparently they aren't going to do that, or they're waiting for "the right moment" which is equally foolish because every day they wait is only making it less likely it will matter by then.

I'm already bracing for the inevitable "But muh democracies!" backlash from liberals when I start insisting on social media that there's no way in hell I'm voting for a democrat or a republican.

I can almost taste the tears now... yum.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on September 25, 2023, 09:16:02 PMAnother recent poll had that number down to 32%.

The boy's toast and Kopmala is a non-starter.
No amount of Morning Joe tongue baths and CNN proclamations of "THIS IS FINE! EVERYTHING'S FINE!" are going to lift Biden out of that hole. The democrats can only do one thing: replace the entire ticket. Apparently they aren't going to do that, or they're waiting for "the right moment" which is equally foolish because every day they wait is only making it less likely it will matter by then.

I'm already bracing for the inevitable "But muh democracies!" backlash from liberals when I start insisting on social media that there's no way in hell I'm voting for a democrat or a republican.

I can almost taste the tears now... yum.

Trudeau finds himself in almost the exact same situation as Biden. He is deeply unpopular across the country. The Liberals are damned if they go into the next election with him and damned if they replace him.

Quote from: DKG on September 25, 2023, 07:59:39 PMA shocking Washington Post/ABC News poll found that if the election were held today, Trump would crush Biden among registered voters, 52% to 42%.

Moreover, the survey found that Biden's job approval stands at a dismal 37% — a metric that in and of itself signals Biden will lose re-election — because the majority of Americans disapprove of Biden's handling of the economy and the border crisis.

To make matters worse for Biden, approximately two-thirds of Democratic voters and Democratic-leaning voters want the Democratic Party to nominate someone other than Biden in 2024. Most of those respondents aren't picky about who his successor is — they just want someone other than Biden.

As much as I dislike the job Biden has done, that poll is an outlier. Almost every poll has Trump and Biden in a dead heat.

Quote from: Brent on September 26, 2023, 06:24:52 PMAs much as I dislike the job Biden has done, that poll is an outlier. Almost every poll has Trump and Biden in a dead heat.

You are correct sir. And I'm sure it has not escaped your attention that the aggregated polls for Trump are vastly superior to what he enjoyed in 2016.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on September 27, 2023, 11:21:01 AMYou are correct sir. And I'm sure it has not escaped your attention that the aggregated polls for Trump are vastly superior to what he enjoyed in 2016.

And the more recent the poll the worse Joe's chances are looking.

*snif* *snif*

I smell a trend...

RELEASE THE COVID....  :crampe:

Quote from: deadskinmask on September 27, 2023, 11:56:24 AMRELEASE THE COVID....  :crampe:

Ballot harvesting and dead voters are not enough for the Dem election machine.

Quote from: DKG on September 27, 2023, 12:12:17 PMBallot harvesting and dead voters are not enough for the Dem election machine.

they've got more than enough vermin crawling over the border walls to make up the difference....

Joe Biden's condition has really deteriorated. I do not see how he can make it through an exhaustive election campaign next year without hiding in his basement again.

Jim Crow Joe is a weaker candidate than in 2020.

As CNN's data expert Harry Enten has explained, that is because Biden maintained a sizable lead over Trump in the polling ahead of that election. Therefore, the fact that Biden cannot pull away from Trump now indicates that Biden is weaker, Trump is stronger, and the race will be closer than in 2020

Hopefully, the shit show economy, EV travesty, supply chain collapse, out of control inflation, and booga woogas robbing stores blind will be enough to at least make democRAT voters stay home.

Quote from: Lokmar on September 27, 2023, 10:41:43 PMHopefully, the shit show economy, EV travesty, supply chain collapse, out of control inflation, and booga woogas robbing stores blind will be enough to at least make democRAT voters stay home.

Progs always vote. Usually three or more times.

Trump's GOP rivals are calling him "Donald Duck" Trump because he is skipping the second debate. :crampe:

Quote from: DKG on September 28, 2023, 11:15:43 AMTrump's GOP rivals are calling him "Donald Duck" Trump because he is skipping the second debate. :crampe:

Trump has such an unquestionably commanding lead I can't really fault him for skipping these early winnowing process debates (he has nothing to gain; it would only potentially help his opponents) but that's still funny.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on September 28, 2023, 11:26:11 AMTrump has such an unquestionably commanding lead I can't really fault him for skipping these early winnowing process debates (he has nothing to gain; it would only potentially help his opponents) but that's still funny.

Most of you disagree with my opinion, but I resolutely believe all declared candidates must attend debates. It's Trump's duty to go in stage and face Christie, Ramaswamy and co. Biden must face off against RFK Jr.

Skipping debates because it could chip away at a commanding lead, or in Biden's case, he cannot handle staying focused for ninety minutes is not fair to voters in both parties. Just my two cents.

I understand *why* they are both skipping a primary or debates but that doesn't mean I approve.

I happen to agree that they *ought* to be there in the thick of it and let voters decide.

But for that to happen we'd have to be a functional democracy which we demonstrably are not.

It's better that Trump didn't go to the debate because he would have mopped the floor with all of them. Without Trump there they can kind of build a case for themselves.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on September 28, 2023, 03:33:34 PMIt's better that Trump didn't go to the debate because he would have mopped the floor with all of them. Without Trump there they can kind of build a case for themselves.

They're all auditioning for the VP slot or other appointments anyway.  Except for the fat guy from New Jersey.  He's just a douche.

All they did at the second debate was talk over each other the entire time. Ron DeSantis performed the best.

Quote from: DKG on September 28, 2023, 05:30:15 PMAll they did at the second debate was talk over each other the entire time. Ron DeSantis performed the best.

I didnt watch it except for close to the end. I walked through the room and saw Scott and Haley bickering over a 10 cent gas tax. I LOL'd.

Quote from: Lokmar on September 28, 2023, 06:31:31 PMI didnt watch it except for close to the end. I walked through the room and saw Scott and Haley bickering over a 10 cent gas tax. I LOL'd.

Nikki Haley was the biggest flop in the debate.

It's a sad commentary when the best either the democrats or republicans can do is either Biden or Trump.

Can't they do any better?

I'm game for some other Republican to run this time & Biden to get the boot too

As a liberal I'd rather see Trudeau step down in Canada as well

Fear and lies are how the Dems will campaign next year.

https://twitter.com/MissnDemocracy/status/1707228241507836318?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1707228241507836318%7Ctwgr%5Ee0bcd087b2e75e1d614e8540dd8978132c9c28fc%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fcolumn%2Fopinion%2Fcommentary-get-ready-for-a-year-of-fake-politics

https://twitter.com/WillAtkins4FL/status/1704324166101729578?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1704324166101729578%7Ctwgr%5Ee0bcd087b2e75e1d614e8540dd8978132c9c28fc%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fcolumn%2Fopinion%2Fcommentary-get-ready-for-a-year-of-fake-politics

https://twitter.com/GavinNewsom/status/1706485988837748949?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1706485988837748949%7Ctwgr%5Ee0bcd087b2e75e1d614e8540dd8978132c9c28fc%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fcolumn%2Fopinion%2Fcommentary-get-ready-for-a-year-of-fake-politics

Quote from: DKG on September 28, 2023, 11:45:10 AMMost of you disagree with my opinion, but I resolutely believe all declared candidates must attend debates. It's Trump's duty to go in stage and face Christie, Ramaswamy and co. Biden must face off against RFK Jr.

You do know that you don't actually need debates, right? That candidates can actually go out and campaign under their own steam and that people might judge for themselves based off their performance in person? That this was effectively how it was done... for centuries... before the advent of television?

Would you agree that for the most part, the media is not a "platform" as such, but rather a captured and effectively managed publisher of content? Owned and operated by a few wealthy elites who are not above curating the information to achieve a desired narrative? That this also applies to the so-called "live" content of a debate where seven and twenty-five second delays might be employed, along with "technical difficulties" and other minutia to shut down any content the owners disapprove of?

Why then would you demand any televised debate at all? For entertainment purposes? Because that's the only valid reason I could see; otherwise it's practically a floor show marketed to a gullible public to shape their opinions in the TV magnate's image and shepherd them towards a desired outcome at the ballot box. You are kidding yourself if you are thinking it's in any way a level playing field; you only need look at the criteria one has to meet to get on that stage to see that if someone with enough clout doesn't want you on it, you will not get on it.

And with the demoKKKrats going hell bent for leather in their attempts to lock up the most popular candidate so that he cannot appear in public at all, you're going to have your work cut out for you to prove that the curated publishing option the Idiot Box represents should be afforded any kind of gatekeeping role in the election process at all.

I've worked in media, I know how it can be abused. I wouldn't trust any lamestream media outlet to organize a fuck in a flophouse armed with a fistful of fifties, much less anything as critical as who gets to run a country on my behalf.

I just had a realization and I'm kicking myself I didn't see it sooner.

The reason the democrats are sticking with Biden even though it's clearer every day he's on course to lose in 2024 is simple: they don't fucking care. Not really.

They can run around screaming about democracy being on the ballot and what an existential threat Donny is, but they were saying the same shit in 2016 but then didn't obstruct the Trump administration *nearly* as much as Mitch and friends obstructed Obama. Joe even promised a gaggle of donors: "nothing will fundamentally change" during his administration, exposing the lie in that scam of democrats' claims of being functionally different from republicans.

That's not to say there aren't cosmetic and marketing distinctions having to do primarily with identity politics but as soon as you scratch off that veneer it's obvious both parties owe their allegiance not to 'Murica's citizens but to the same special interests that fund and manage both halves of the duopoly.

Win or lose they couldn't give any fucks because either way they'll just spin their fundraising boilerplate to match the current political balance. Are they ascendant? Gotta keep it that way and expand our majority! Are they sucking hind tit? We must RESIST and retake the levers of power!

It's a game to them. They keep score by counting the money in their bank accounts from insider trades, influence peddling, and corporate sponsorships. Winning or losing elections is incidental, ultimately. Merely a factor to be considered when choosing the phrasing for this fiscal quarter's propaganda.

The hullabaloo about D/vs/R, complete with insincere hand-wringing and hyperbolic partisanship, is so much smoke and mirrors.

Joe was right: nothing will fundamentally change.

And they damn well know that.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on September 29, 2023, 08:02:27 PMI just had a realization and I'm kicking myself I didn't see it sooner.

The reason the democrats are sticking with Biden even though it's clearer every day he's on course to lose in 2024 is simple: they don't fucking care. Not really.

They can run around screaming about democracy being on the ballot and what an existential threat Donny is, but they were saying the same shit in 2016 but then didn't obstruct the Trump administration *nearly* as much as Mitch and friends obstructed Obama. Joe even promised a gaggle of donors: "nothing will fundamentally change" during his administration, exposing the lie in that scam of democrats' claims of being functionally different from republicans.

That's not to say there aren't cosmetic and marketing distinctions having to do primarily with identity politics but as soon as you scratch off that veneer it's obvious both parties owe their allegiance not to 'Murica's citizens but to the same special interests that fund and manage both halves of the duopoly.

Win or lose they couldn't give any fucks because either way they'll just spin their fundraising boilerplate to match the current political balance. Are they ascendant? Gotta keep it that way and expand our majority! Are they sucking hind tit? We must RESIST and retake the levers of power!

It's a game to them. They keep score by counting the money in their bank accounts from insider trades, influence peddling, and corporate sponsorships. Winning or losing elections is incidental, ultimately. Merely a factor to be considered when choosing the phrasing for this fiscal quarter's propaganda.

The hullabaloo about D/vs/R, complete with insincere hand-wringing and hyperbolic partisanship, is so much smoke and mirrors.

Joe was right: nothing will fundamentally change.

And they damn well know that.

I disagree that nothing changed. There were some major policy reversals under Biden. If Biden had defeated say Mitt Romney in 2020, the changes would superfical.

Quote from: Thiel on September 29, 2023, 08:33:25 PMI disagree that nothing changed. There were some major policy reversals under Biden. If Biden had defeated say Mitt Romney in 2020, the changes would superfical.

The changes (actual changes, not rhetorical posturing) were the equivalent of putting a new cover on an old manky pillow and pretending it was somehow a different pillow. The MIC continues to grow and become more belligerent every day. Corporations continue to amass power and influence over legislation, policies, laws, and society. The stratification of our "justice" system in which the wealthy and/or well-connected are rarely held accountable and the private prison industry has become a network of modern-day slave plantations proceeds apace.

The things that literally affect everyone everywhere don't fundamentally change. The system itself only becomes more paranoid and fascistic and violent as we near the end of our nice little run as undisputed hegemon in a unipolar world.

We've been a parasitic thing that supported our own rise and expansion by sucking the nutrients out of vassal states and conquered territory. That can work for a while, obviously, but it's not an eternally sustainable lifestyle.

Democrats and republicans both built this system.
It's not broken; it's working exactly as they designed it.

They just didn't design it for us and will never change it because we ask nicely.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on September 29, 2023, 06:40:16 PMYou do know that you don't actually need debates, right?

Voters deserve to hear the candidates debate issues. That was the tradition until Biden and Trump decided it was not in their interest to debate their intra party opponents. Who cares what Dem and GOP voters want.

In a sudden development to come as the race for the 2024 White House continues to heat up, sources close to RFK Jr. revealed that he will officially announce his campaign as an independent candidate on October 9 in Pennsylvania.

Quote from: DKG on September 30, 2023, 12:22:26 PMIn a sudden development to come as the race for the 2024 White House continues to heat up, sources close to RFK Jr. revealed that he will officially announce his campaign as an independent candidate on October 9 in Pennsylvania.

LoL

So it looks like the main choices will probably be Trump, Biden, West, and RFKJr.

RFKJr might siphon off a few votes from people who would ordinarily pull the lever for Biden but he'll siphon off a few from Trump as well. There's speculation he may even hitch his wagon to an existing third party like the Libertarians for the ballot access head start. People who will vote Libertarian are generally less likely to vote for Biden than Trump so I expect RFKJr will actually attract more republican defectors than disaffected democrats.

West also might draw a few otherwise Biden voters but not a statistically significant number by themselves because people who will vote Green generally eschew both democrats and republicans anyway. It's not impossible that a few otherwise republican voters will select West but far fewer than might support RFKJr.

Basically, this means Biden has already lost no matter who his republican opponent happens to be.

Joe only has enthusiastic support in that small sliver of democrat voters who only care that a candidate has a 'D' next to their name. It's not enthusiasm for Joe himself... it's party loyalty.

The democrats can't afford to shed any votes at all given Biden's unpopularity and obviously declining mental acuity. They just can't. Support in their traditional demographic bases is slipping away and they have nowhere else to turn for voters to replace the ones lost to apathy and disappointment.

If it was only West to contend with history has shown that the Green party doesn't actually "spoil" elections for the democrats. Assuming everyone who votes Green represent a vote that was "taken" from a democrat is a lie used by the democrats to gaslight people back into supporting the duopoly.

With both West and RFKJr peeling off some votes from the democrats and Joe's complete failure to make anyone *want* to vote for him, he's doomed. Done. Call in the sweepers 'cuz the parade is over.

Personally, I love to see it.
It's a small but beautiful nail in the democrat party's coffin.

I predict RFK's candidacy will be more problematic for Trump than Biden. If Biden is reelected, he should send a thank you gift to RFK Jr. Particularly so if RFK runs on the Libertarian party banner.

Quote from: DKG on September 30, 2023, 11:36:35 AMVoters deserve to hear the candidates debate issues. That was the tradition until Biden and Trump decided it was not in their interest to debate their intra party opponents. Who cares what Dem and GOP voters want.

I already told you in the section you redacted how that could happen, independent of a monied interest such as a corporate infotainment outlet such as CNN, NBC or FOX. And that revived tradition is indeed happening to a degree at the Trump rallies. I wish I could say the same for Mumbly Joe.

Americans are not excited about another Trump Biden match. It is not like that in Canada. Something like seventy percent of Canadians want Trudeau gone. There is a lot of excitement around Pierre Pollivere.

Ron DeSantis,said he would not serve as Trump's vice president if the former president asked him to be his running mate.

Quote from: DKG on September 30, 2023, 01:26:22 PMI predict RFK's candidacy will be more problematic for Trump than Biden. If Biden is reelected, he should send a thank you gift to RFK Jr. Particularly so if RFK runs on the Libertarian party banner.

I disagree. democRATs who waffle on joe will go to RFK. ANY RINO that would vote RFK wouldnt vote Trump regardless.

Cornel West locks up the angry black communist vote.

This is all YUGE for Trump!

Quote from: DKG on October 01, 2023, 11:46:48 AMRon DeSantis,said he would not serve as Trump's vice president if the former president asked him to be his running mate.

That's a relief. Don't get me wrong, there was a time not even a year ago where I would have welcomed a placement of DeSantis as VP, but between his tax policy and attacks on the first amendment that time has long passed.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on October 02, 2023, 02:03:05 PMThat's a relief. Don't get me wrong, there was a time not even a year ago where I would have welcomed a placement of DeSantis as VP, but between his tax policy and attacks on the first amendment that time has long passed.

I do not believe Desantis wants to create a state church. He lowered taxes in his state.

Quote from: Herman on October 02, 2023, 02:11:49 PMI do not believe Desantis wants to create a state church. He lowered taxes in his state.

Uhhhhhhmmmm, okay. Not quite what I was getting at.

A federal court approved a new congressional map for Alabama in time for the 2024 congressional elections, a decision that's expected to boost Democrats' electoral chances in the heavily Republican state.

The decision by a three-judge panel of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Alabama came on Oct. 5, after the same panel found twice previously that district lines drawn by the Republican-controlled state legislature appeared to violate the federal Voting Rights Act by diluting the voting strength of black voters.

Quote from: DKG on October 06, 2023, 11:44:16 AMA federal court approved a new congressional map for Alabama in time for the 2024 congressional elections, a decision that's expected to boost Democrats' electoral chances in the heavily Republican state.

The decision by a three-judge panel of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Alabama came on Oct. 5, after the same panel found twice previously that district lines drawn by the Republican-controlled state legislature appeared to violate the federal Voting Rights Act by diluting the voting strength of black voters.

The fact that we let political parties draw their own districts in a system that's supposed to result in proportional representation is near the top of the list detailing utterly stupid shit we do in 'Murican politics.

The corruption is baked into the process.

The Supreme Court said Monday that it will not take up a longshot challenge to Donald Trump's eligibility to run for president because of his alleged role in the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol.

Kennedy at CPAC?? This is bad news for Trump.


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Robert F Kennedy Jr. has changed his game plan.

The notoriously outspoken advocate for medical freedom was announced this past Friday as a speaker for the Conservative Political Action Conference. This comes after he revealed that he would no longer be running on the Democrat ticket.

"I think the man is realizing that his support is predominantly with Republicans," Keith Malinak comments.

However, Pat Gray worries this could hurt Trump in 2024 more than it will hurt Biden.

"You would hope that would hurt Biden more than Trump or whoever the nominee is, but I don't know," Gray says, noting that CPAC is full of potential Trump voters.

CPAC Chair Matt Schlapp said in a statement, "Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has a unique voice in advocating for the defunding of the weaponized bureaucracy and ensuring the constitutional right of medical freedom."

"Kennedy joining such an important event is a reflection of the splintering of the left-wing coalition that has gone full woke Marxist to the point that traditional liberals don't feel welcome anymore," he continued.

A new poll of Ohio voters delivered a blow to Democrats' chances of holding the Senate in the 2024 elections, showing Republicans with a slight lead over incumbent Senator Sherrod Brown.

Brown is facing reelection in Ohio, a state with an increasingly Republican-friendly electorate, next November. The race is viewed as a must-win for Democrats, who need to win critical races in conservative-leaning states next year to maintain their narrow Senate majority. Democratic incumbents in Ohio, Montana and West Virginia are viewed as the most vulnerable, as former President Donald Trump carried each of those states in 2020.

New polling numbers released Tuesday suggest that Brown could be in for a tight reelection race next November. An Emerson College poll found two of his most likely challengers leading him, though many voters remained undecided and the race remains close.

The poll, which surveyed 438 registered voters, found State Senator Matt Dolan with the strongest lead over Brown, leading by two percentage points. Secretary of State Frank LaRose led by one point, according to the poll. Polls have shown LaRose with a consistent lead over his opponents, though the Emerson poll did not include primary numbers.

Meanwhile, Brown maintained a 2-point lead over Bernie Moreno, a former Senate candidate and ally to former President Donald Trump.

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The return to the Iran deal put the entire region on shaky ground.

Fox News Poll: Support for Haley doubles in GOP primary, she tops Biden by four

Trump maintains his commanding lead in the Republican presidential contest, but his nomination would unify Democrats in the general election, according to a new Fox News national survey.

Trump receives 59% support among GOP primary voters. He's been above 50% since March and hit a record 60% in September.

Ron DeSantis remains an extremely distant second — he holds steady at 13%. Nikki Haley registers her best showing yet with 10% support (+5 points), while Vivek Ramaswamy falls back into single digits with 7% (-4 points). All others are below 5%.

Forty-five percent of Democratic primary voters now want to keep President Joe Biden as their party's presidential nominee, up from 37% in February. Still, a majority of 53% prefers someone else at the top of the ticket.

Republican primary voters are more settled, with fully 82% saying they are satisfied with their candidate choices.

The 2024 general election matchups remain tight. Despite a job approval rating stuck at 41%, Biden's support in hypothetical head-to-heads is between 45-49% against each Republican tested. He is preferred over Trump by just 1 point, while DeSantis has a 2-point edge over Biden and Haley tops him by 4 points. This marks the first time in Fox News polling this year that Trump has fared worse against Biden than his rivals for the Republican nomination.

Haley has gone from trailing Biden by 6 points in August to besting him by 4 points today. She also garners the highest number of defections among Democrats (9% support her), while Trump gets the least (5% of Democrats back him). Bottom line, Democrats are most unified when Biden is running against Trump.

Progressive media figure Cenk Uygur of "The Young Turks" has announced that he will run for president in a bid to pressure President Joe Biden to drop out of the contest.

In the critical swing state of Pennsylvania, Trump has 45 percent support, compared to Biden's 36 percent.

Quote from: DKG on October 12, 2023, 11:32:23 AMProgressive media figure Cenk Uygur of "The Young Turks" has announced that he will run for president in a bid to pressure President Joe Biden to drop out of the contest.

It's either a grift or he's lost his damn mind.

He has even less name recognition than Marianne Williamson and they've only been ignoring the fuck out of her. That boy can't seriously think anyone in the democrat party will notice much less care if he runs?

 :crampe:

Trump has a two point lead over Jom Crow Joe, in Wisconsin, which is another important swing state.

RFKJr:

So Kucinich is out as campaign manager (someone must have remembered his previous criticisms of israel) and he has been replaced by RFKJr's daughter-in-law, who just happens to be ...(checks notes)... an ex-CIA agent?!?

Bold move for the "anti-establishment" candidate, I must say.

 :crampe:

Jim Crow Joe's 2024 re-election team and his party said on Sunday that they raised $71 million during the latest quarter, as the Democrat's age and low approval ratings remained a concern for many donors.

The money raised is similar to the $72 million Biden and the Democratic Party raised in the prior quarter, though the April-to-June period was shorter by 25 days because Biden launched his campaign in late April. The summertime July-to-September period more than one year before the election is traditionally sluggish for raising money.

Quote from: Herman on October 15, 2023, 11:13:20 PMJim Crow Joe's 2024 re-election team and his party said on Sunday that they raised $71 million during the latest quarter, as the Democrat's age and low approval ratings remained a concern for many donors.

The money raised is similar to the $72 million Biden and the Democratic Party raised in the prior quarter, though the April-to-June period was shorter by 25 days because Biden launched his campaign in late April. The summertime July-to-September period more than one year before the election is traditionally sluggish for raising money.

Yeah, I wonder what percentage of that came from the beneficiaries of his human trafficking programs.

Trump is leading Biden in head-to-head races in five of the seven swing states: Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Biden leads in Nevada, and it's a tie in Michigan. 

Making matters worse for Biden: They're all states he won in 2020, except for North Carolina. All of Trump's leads are within the margin of error for those states, but his cumulative advantage across the seven swing states is a significant 4-point lead — outside the poll's 1-point margin of error.

Voters Aren't Buying 'Bidenomics'
Underlying Biden's swing-state woes is a trust deficit on economic issues. Voters in those states favor Trump over Biden on the economy by a 14-point margin. Inflation was the most important economic issue for voters, especially women, blue-collar workers and retirees.

Biden's attempt to brand his economic platform as "Bidenomics" isn't working. Almost twice as many voters say Bidenomics is bad for the economy compared to those who say it's good. Independents are even more likely to view it negatively.

Trump is gaining popularity among union households, encroaching on one of Biden's strengths.

Rep. Dean Phillips is running to be the Democratic nominee for president in 2024, he announced on CBS News on Friday morning.

The three-term Minnesota congressman will challenge President Joe Biden for the Democratic nomination in 2024 -- a move that moves the moderate to the fringes of the party as he battles the well-funded and establishment-backed incumbent.

Quote from: DKG on October 27, 2023, 10:27:59 AMRep. Dean Phillips is running to be the Democratic nominee for president in 2024, he announced on CBS News on Friday morning.

The three-term Minnesota congressman will challenge President Joe Biden for the Democratic nomination in 2024 -- a move that moves the moderate to the fringes of the party as he battles the well-funded and establishment-backed incumbent.

Why bother?
No debates, rigged primary sequence, etc. only proves that any "challenge" to Biden is an exercise in futility.

The only way for democrats to have a chance is to kick Biden/Harris off the ticket and replace them with another hand-picked duo who no doubt will be almost as unpalatable but at least have *different* baggage.

And when I say "a chance" I only mean not 100% fucked.

Call it... 90% fucked.

LoL

I've been seeing a few mentions that Peter Daou has stepped down as Cornell West's campaign manager.

I suppose he figured he'd done enough damage and it was time to move onto his next victim.

Anyone who hires that fuckhead from now on deserves to lose, like all the rest of his clientele.

Larry Elder dropped out of the Republican race and endorsed Trump.

I saw this on a newsfeed and thought I would pass it on. It appeared in the Daily Mail.

QuoteAs President Joe Biden gets a Democratic challenger in Rep. Dean Phillips, a new poll showed that his approval rating among Democrats has dropped 11 points in one month and is at the lowest of his presidency.

While 75 percent of Democrats still approved of 80-year-old Biden, that number had stood at 86 percent in the September Gallup poll.
Gallup's October numbers, released Thursday, showed that Biden lost ground with independents too, going from 39 percent approval in September to 35 percent this month.

His overall approval rating for the month stood at 37 percent, down from 41 percent in September and averaging 40 percent over the last quarter.

The Democrats are running out of time to replace Biden.

How could the majority of Demorats support a fall down prone corrupt vegetable?

Quote from: Frood on October 27, 2023, 07:35:49 PMHow could the majority of Demorats support a fall down prone corrupt vegetable?

Search me. How could a majority of Liberals in Canada support JT.

I blame the clot shots...

Quote from: Frood on October 27, 2023, 07:39:23 PMI blame the clot shots...

His supporters were not thinking clearly prior to the kunf flu.

Quote from: Brent on October 27, 2023, 07:33:39 PMThe Democrats are running out of time to replace Biden.

They're trying to be subtle, almost subliminal, about getting democrat voters comfortable with Newsom.

Trips abroad, speaking with foreign dignitaries, etc.
Even his most recent actions as governor have been in service to making him more palatable nationally.

Unfortunately Palestine/Israel has been sucking all the oxygen out of the room so they might have to get more obvious in a hurry if they want to pull off that particular switcheroo and I believe that's exactly what they want. I expect he'll be saying and/or doing more "newsworthy" stuff from here on out, unless they've decided they don't really need to.

What good is winning a lawsuit with an argument that the DNC, as a private entity, can damn well pick whoever they want as a nominee -votes be damned- unless they can actually do it? LoL

The opposition to a second Biden run is getting noriceably less suntle.

Quote from: Thiel on October 27, 2023, 10:49:38 PMThe opposition to a second Biden run is getting noriceably less suntle.

The democrats calling for him to step aside are the sane ones... it's the ones who keep insisting everything is fine and Joe's doing great who are the nutbags.

Just looking at his favorability with a few key traditional democrat-supporting demographics it's obvious he literally can't win. Numerically impossible. He's toast. Done. Kaput.

Whether the crazies are refusing to admit #GenocideJoe is doomed because of misguided party loyalty, a sincere faith in The Cult of Biden, or simply because they're tongue swallowing chewing on the walls in-fucking-sane is an academic question. All that matters is that they're making an already bad situation 1,000 times worse.

Personally, I love to see it. Muahaha

Quote from: Garraty_47 on October 27, 2023, 11:02:13 PMThe democrats calling for him to step aside are the sane ones... it's the ones who keep insisting everything is fine and Joe's doing great who are the nutbags.

Just looking at his favorability with a few key traditional democrat-supporting demographics it's obvious he literally can't win. Numerically impossible. He's toast. Done. Kaput.

Whether the crazies are refusing to admit #GenocideJoe is doomed because of misguided party loyalty, a sincere faith in The Cult of Biden, or simply because they're tongue swallowing chewing on the walls in-fucking-sane is an academic question. All that matters is that they're making an already bad situation 1,000 times worse.

Personally, I love to see it. Muahaha

The entire party has become an asylum. The crazies are the tail that wags the dog.

I guess it must have been something I said...?

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Quote from: Garraty_47 on October 29, 2023, 06:03:49 PMI guess it must have been something I said...?

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Were you a pain in his neck?

Quote from: Thiel on October 29, 2023, 07:28:06 PMWere you a pain in his neck?

I don't see how; it was only one post:

"The fact that you continuously dance around the fact that Brother West is *farther* away from being president now compared to when you infiltrated his campaign is everything.

Oh- so how's that "self-care" coming along... does the Xwitter ranting truly help? lulz"

Quote from: Garraty_47 on October 29, 2023, 08:47:02 PMI don't see how; it was only one post:

"The fact that you continuously dance around the fact that Brother West is *farther* away from being president now compared to when you infiltrated his campaign is everything.

Oh- so how's that "self-care" coming along... does the Xwitter ranting truly help? lulz"

Most folks don't like it being told they suck at their jobs. Even if they do suck at their jobs.

Quote from: Herman on October 29, 2023, 08:52:32 PMMost folks don't like it being told they suck at their jobs. Even if they do suck at their jobs.

After Kerry, Clinton, Williamson (maybe others I don't recall at the moment), and now West...

...the boy damn well ought to be used to people pointing out how much he sucks.

/shrug

I don't know much about Peter Daou. But, if he has such a poor track record, why did Cornel West hire him?

Trump maintains a commanding lead over his Republican rivals in Iowa less than three months before the state kicks off the Republican presidential nominating contest, with Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis tied for second place, an NBC News poll released on Monday showed.

Among the 404 likely Iowa caucus-goers surveyed Oct. 22-26, 43% chose Trump as their first-choice candidate, while 16% picked Haley and another 16% selected DeSantis.

Mark Fisher, a co-founder of a Black Lives Matter chapter in Rhode Island and founder of a new BLM-related organization, is on a media tour advocating for Donald Trump to be president in 2024.

"Everybody else sucks," Fisher told host Kim Iversen in a recent interview.

After Iversen asked if he thought Trump was simply the best of the worst and "not that great either," Fisher clarified his views.

"I like Trump, you know. Personally, and I think right now who we have sitting in the Oval Office is just a deep disappointment, you know? I deeply have disdain for him, and I really dislike the vice president, as well."

There were some surprises last night. The Democrats are not weak, just the president.

The Minnesota Supreme Court rejected a lawsuit that sought to keep former President Donald Trump off the state's Republican primary ballot on Wednesday, after having heard arguments on whether they should take the case.

This week's disappointing results for Republicans indicates that abortion is a losing issue for them.

Quote from: DKG on November 09, 2023, 10:50:11 AMThis week's disappointing results for Republicans indicates that abortion is a losing issue for them.

Still, it's an issue on which their constituents want them to campaign. It will continue to hurt them.

Lokmar claims he'd prefer to lose than concede to abortionists.

Quote from: Bonesaw on November 09, 2023, 04:00:08 PMStill, it's an issue on which their constituents want them to campaign. It will continue to hurt them.

Lokmar claims he'd prefer to lose than concede to abortionists.

It should not be a deciding issue.

Quote from: Brent on November 09, 2023, 04:22:30 PMIt should not be a deciding issue.

Tell someone they can't do something and they'll want to do it more.

And 'should' is subjective.

Quote from: Bonesaw on November 09, 2023, 04:25:10 PMTell someone they can't do something and they'll want to do it more.

And 'should' is subjective.

I will never understand why abortion is a political issue in the States.

Quote from: Brent on November 09, 2023, 04:29:19 PMI will never understand why abortion is a political issue in the States.

It's political because people keep threatening to take away access. 

Quote from: Bonesaw on November 09, 2023, 04:31:23 PMIt's political because people keep threatening to take away access. 

It is a distraction. A stupid wedge so people forget that the White House has not only surrendered, but are helping aliens invade the States through the Southern border.

Quote from: Bonesaw on November 09, 2023, 04:00:08 PMStill, it's an issue on which their constituents want them to campaign. It will continue to hurt them.

Lokmar claims he'd prefer to lose than concede to abortionists.

I would. However, I still say its a failure at messaging on Republicans part. We need to aggressively attack democRAT lies. democRATs airclaim we want a 9yo rape victim to be forced to carry the pregnancy to term, even if they die. They claim we would prevent terminating a pregnancy when there is a imminent physical issue that will kill the mother like ectopic pregnancy. They claim that sometimes medical issues force a woman to have an abortion at 6 months. They get away with this bullshit because Republicans sit around with their thumbs in their asses. Still, an iota of common sense should make you realize they can DELIVER a 6 month old baby and put it in the NICU where it has a very good chance of surviving!

Quote from: Thiel on November 08, 2023, 11:30:24 PMThere were some surprises last night. The Democrats are not weak, just the president.

Here in Virginia the one person on the ballot that I voted for did not win her contest.

For the rest I wrote in Vermin Supreme.

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Quote from: DKG on October 30, 2023, 10:34:11 AMI don't know much about Peter Daou. But, if he has such a poor track record, why did Cornel West hire him?

According to Jill Stein, she recommended Daou to West.

Now that Stein is herself running as a Green I still haven't decided what I'm going to do come election day. Until I see a rational, reasonable, sane, and believable explanation for why Stein would do that to West I can't support her either.

Quote from: Brent on November 09, 2023, 04:29:19 PMI will never understand why abortion is a political issue in the States.

The democRATs need it to win. But, the GOP goes the other extreme with some governors restricting it at six frickin weeks.

Roe would have never been tossed IF democRATs had agreed to some reasonable limits. You have a Constitutional Right to own a gun for the sole purpose to overthrow the government. You do NOT have a Constitutional Right to abortion.

Of course democRATs want to limit the right we all have guaranteed, while they want to enshrine a right never enumerated. Typical.

Quote from: Lokmar on November 09, 2023, 07:22:47 PMRoe would have never been tossed IF democRATs had agreed to some reasonable limits. You have a Constitutional Right to own a gun for the sole purpose to overthrow the government. You do NOT have a Constitutional Right to abortion.

Of course democRATs want to limit the right we all have guaranteed, while they want to enshrine a right never enumerated. Typical.

The democRATs are a nutjob party by G20 standards.

Watch Ramaswamy at ther three minute mark.
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Quote from: Lokmar on November 09, 2023, 07:22:47 PMRoe would have never been tossed IF democRATs had agreed to some reasonable limits.

It got to the Supreme Court because of the Republicans.

Quote from: Lokmar on November 09, 2023, 07:22:47 PMRoe would have never been tossed IF democRATs had agreed to some reasonable limits. You have a Constitutional Right to own a gun for the sole purpose to overthrow the government. You do NOT have a Constitutional Right to abortion.

Of course democRATs want to limit the right we all have guaranteed, while they want to enshrine a right never enumerated. Typical.

apparently, abortion was legal in the United States in 1776 when it was founded as a nation.


There was nothing in the original US constitution which prohibited it. Abortion was widely practised by midwives in 18th century colonial and post colonial America

Abortion was made illegal nearly 100 years after the USA became a nation...Lokmeer!

so the pro-abortion lobby can argue that they have the consititutional right to have abortions because your founding fathers said so or didn't prohibit the practice.

Quote from: Brent on November 11, 2023, 12:52:06 PMIt got to the Supreme Court because of the Republicans.

Yep. And why the hell did that happen? Buckets of dead babies that looked big enough to walk me down to the bus, thats why. Libtards kept insisting that late term abortion was bullshit, then they got caught. The horrors from that outing led to Roe v Wade getting tossed. STILL, its an absolute lie to say Republicans made abortion illegal.

FOR DECADES, Republicans tried to get democRATs to agree to some form of limits. I say read it and weep, libtards.

Quote from: JOE on November 11, 2023, 01:22:37 PMapparently, abortion was legal in the United States in 1776 when it was founded as a nation.

There was nothing in the original US constitution which prohibited it. Abortion was widely practised by midwives in 18th century colonial and post colonial America

Abortion was made illegal nearly 100 years after the USA became a nation...Lokmeer!

so the pro-abortion lobby can argue that they have the consititutional right to have abortions because your founding fathers said so or didn't prohibit the practice.

Dipshit, if you had a clue, you'd know in America, all rights not granted or enshrined federally, revert to the states. Abortion therefore, is a states issue. HOWEVER, if you believe life begins at conception, then abortion is murder. I'll tell you this, by 5 months, its fucking murder, period!

Quote from: Lokmar on November 11, 2023, 02:38:02 PMDipshit, if you had a clue, you'd know in America, all rights not granted or enshrined federally, revert to the states. Abortion therefore, is a states issue. HOWEVER, if you believe life begins at conception, then abortion is murder. I'll tell you this, by 5 months, its fucking murder, period!

Well ifya don't like criminals, illegal immigrants and more terrorists, then be prepared for more of them in the future, Lokmeer. That's ifya want more kids, eh?

More people, just means more extreme people too.

especially if they were brought into this world and no one wants or can afford them.

Just thought I'd letcha know whats comin....Lokmeer!

Quote from: JOE on November 11, 2023, 07:42:48 PMWell ifya don't like criminals, illegal immigrants and more terrorists, then be prepared for more of them in the future, Lokmeer. That's ifya want more kids, eh?

More people, just means more extreme people too.

especially if they were brought into this world and no one wants or can afford them.

Just thought I'd letcha know whats comin....Lokmeer!

Dummy, our abortion positions dont have shit fuk all to do with the terd wurlderz.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on November 09, 2023, 06:32:23 PMAccording to Jill Stein, she recommended Daou to West.

Now that Stein is herself running as a Green I still haven't decided what I'm going to do come election day. Until I see a rational, reasonable, sane, and believable explanation for why Stein would do that to West I can't support her either.

Probably for the exact same reasons she colluded with the democrats in 2016 to bolster Hillary. I interpret that to mean that Jill is a unipartyist snake and I wouldn't trust that slag as far as I could comfortably kick her.

Quote from: Lokmar on November 11, 2023, 09:44:53 PMDummy, our abortion positions dont have shit fuk all to do with the terd wurlderz.

Well when these migrants birth too much, they came to our borders with their 5 kids or more and beg or demand to be let in - like the Tijuana border.

so, if they don't get their populations/birthing under control, just expect more of the same, only worse, cuz they breed like rabbits.

It's better to supply them with contraceptives to bring their birth rates down so they don't flood places like the US border.

Quote from: Lokmar on November 11, 2023, 02:33:52 PMYep. And why the hell did that happen? Buckets of dead babies that looked big enough to walk me down to the bus, thats why. Libtards kept insisting that late term abortion was bullshit, then they got caught. The horrors from that outing led to Roe v Wade getting tossed. STILL, its an absolute lie to say Republicans made abortion illegal.

Roe v Wade shouldn't have been on the books from the start. Punting it back to the individual states was the best move that could have been made.

Where the republican party comes unstuck on the issue is having argued that it should rightly be legislated at the state level, you now have shitheads like Lindsay Graham pushing for federal regulation again. That's enough ammunition for the likes of Joe to start chimping from the pulpit.

Roe v Wade was overturned. Good deal. We now have 50 different standards we can choose to support, it's a lot more doable than expecting everyone to adhere to one... whatever that standard may be.

Bernie Marcus, the billionaire co-founder of Home Depot, said he is endorsing former President Donald Trump for president in 2024, arguing that he's concerned about what's "happening to America."

The 94-year-old Home Depot co-founder made reference to what he described as insecurity around the U.S.–Mexico border, which has allowed millions of people to cross in recent years. Another issue he cited is education and that "our educational leaders tell us that they know better than parents how to raise our children.

"Working men and women are struggling to provide for their families and must raid their retirement funds just to feed, clothe, and take care of their children," Mr. Marcus wrote. "These are just a few of the problems America is facing after three years of bad government policies. They cannot be our legacy.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on November 12, 2023, 12:10:30 AMRoe v Wade shouldn't have been on the books from the start. Punting it back to the individual states was the best move that could have been made.

Where the republican party comes unstuck on the issue is having argued that it should rightly be legislated at the state level, you now have shitheads like Lindsay Graham pushing for federal regulation again. That's enough ammunition for the likes of Joe to start chimping from the pulpit.

Roe v Wade was overturned. Good deal. We now have 50 different standards we can choose to support, it's a lot more doable than expecting everyone to adhere to one... whatever that standard may be.

Agreed overall. Its an optics problem for the republicans and as always, democrats get in the drivers seat when it comes to optics while the republicans are still looking for the fukin car keys.

Quote from: Lokmar on November 11, 2023, 02:33:52 PMYep. And why the hell did that happen? Buckets of dead babies that looked big enough to walk me down to the bus, thats why. Libtards kept insisting that late term abortion was bullshit, then they got caught. The horrors from that outing led to Roe v Wade getting tossed. STILL, its an absolute lie to say Republicans made abortion illegal.

FOR DECADES, Republicans tried to get democRATs to agree to some form of limits. I say read it and weep, libtards.

Both sides are too extreme. There are Democrats who want no limits on abortion and some Republicans want no abortion period.

Quote from: Brent on November 12, 2023, 06:32:53 PMBoth sides are too extreme. There are Democrats who want no limits on abortion and some Republicans want no abortion period.

The democRATs have had their way exclusively for the last 50 years. Sure, there are some republicans that would see it eliminated completely but that hasnt happened in ANY state. Lets say it did in 20 of them. That would still leave plenty of placed like illinois where you could not only get an abortion, you could get one up to 9 months AND you would get it for free, AND they would pay you travel expenses.

Senator Tim Scott announced late Sunday that he was dropping out of the 2024 race.

Quote from: Thiel on November 12, 2023, 10:06:07 PMSenator Tim Scott announced late Sunday that he was dropping out of the 2024 race.

He's a good man and I hope to see him continue in government for a very long time.

Quote from: Lokmar on November 12, 2023, 10:52:50 PMHe's a good man and I hope to see him continue in government for a very long time.

I am sure he will.

Stack Data Strategy is projecting that former President Trump would beat President Joe Biden for the presidency if the election were held today.

Stack published a polling model on Monday that found Biden wining the popular vote but losing the electoral college by 292 votes for Trump, to 246 votes for Biden.


It projected that Biden would lose four states he won in 2020: Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona and Georgia.

It projected Biden as the winner in two other swing states of Michigan and Nevada.

Biden /vs/ Trump in a head to head match-up is an easy Trump win.

However RFKJr seems to have a surprising amount of momentum despite the vehemence with which "the left" has rejected him over his stance on things like Israel. Like the Cornel West campaign RFKJr's potential influence boils down to ballot access. If both independents have roughly equal amounts of ballot access they could cancel each other out; if one has significantly more access than the other that could certainly tip the election one way or the other.

That's not even counting the Greens who will likely run Stein again, or the Libertarian candidate, or the chance of a No-Labels candidacy by someone like Manchin.

If nothing else 2024 should be... interesting. LoL

Biden is trailing former President Donald Trump in a hypothetical general election matchup among young voters, an NBC News poll released Sunday found.

Among voters ages 18-34, Biden saw 42% support. That's compared to Trump, who led him with 46% support. The poll is an early warning for Biden's campaign ahead of the 2024 presidential election that young voters could be peeling away from him.

The U.S. Supreme Court has denied several challenges to Donald Trump's eligibility to run for the White House in 2024 based on the 14th amendment.

A federal district court in Rhode Island on Monday rejected a bid to disqualify former President Donald Trump from candidacy in the 2024 presidential elections, citing an earlier ruling by an appeals court that rejected a similar claim.

Jim Crow Joe might decide after Christmas not to seek reelection. They say in this video Kameltoe Harris would be the democRAT nominee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAtbyQ5LpoE

Despite all the power of the FBI and DOJ used to defeat Trump, he keeps gaining in the polls. The democRATs only hope is put Trump in jail.

Tucker Calrlson said this, "you cannot allow the president of the United States to use the Justice Department to knock the front-runner out of the race." :thumbup2:

I read that Hillary Clinton and the scumbag Romney/Bush/McCain wing of the GOP are pouring money into Nikki Haley's campaign.

Quote from: Herman on November 29, 2023, 09:35:03 PMJim Crow Joe might decide after Christmas not to seek reelection. They say in this video Kameltoe Harris would be the democRAT nominee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAtbyQ5LpoE

I hope so.

pro-establishment Republican capitalists like Steve Forbes don't want Biden to run again.

https://youtu.be/2YaRcirXaXE?si=nsPAjuJdypv1i2gp

Quote from: Herman on December 02, 2023, 12:16:27 AMI read that Hillary Clinton and the scumbag Romney/Bush/McCain wing of the GOP are pouring money into Nikki Haley's campaign.

She is raising a lot of money.

Women have absolutely no business being in politics.  Further, I'd say anyone who doesnt have a job shouldnt be allowed to vote. A felony? No vote. With the way these ubber rich cunts tend to be too liberal, I might think anyone worth over $5 million shouldnt be allowed to vote.

Quote from: Herman on November 29, 2023, 10:22:22 PMDespite all the power of the FBI and DOJ used to defeat Trump, he keeps gaining in the polls. The democRATs only hope is put Trump in jail.

Dude, this has been discussed before. Putting him in jail does not prohibit him from running for office and in all likelihood would only drive his approval rating higher.

And given he requires a secret service detachment as all previously serving US presidents do (for national security interests if nothing else), the only place they could reasonably detain him would be a place like the Mar-A-Lago. Locking him up in a maximum security pen is not an option for anyone, much as TDS sufferers might like to see it.

The Uniparty is practically out of ammunition at this point. Trump as a candidate is outpacing not simply the other nominees for the RNC ticket, he is fast outpacing the Uniparty's trained potato as well. He either needs to die by natural causes or assassination or they'll have to suspend the electoral process entirely to assure "business as usual".

Quote from: Lokmar on December 02, 2023, 02:38:02 PMWomen have absolutely no business being in politics.  Further, I'd say anyone who doesnt have a job shouldnt be allowed to vote. A felony? No vote. With the way these ubber rich cunts tend to be too liberal, I might think anyone worth over $5 million shouldnt be allowed to vote.

Anyone worth over $5 million can buy a politician anyway.

lly, Kennedy is far more progressive than even Joe Biden.
Arecent Quinnipiac University survey of registered voters revealed that Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is now running for president as an independent, has amassed an astonishing amount of support. If Kennedy can maintain or even build upon that momentum prior to Election Day, his candidacy could prove to be a critical factor in the 2024 election.

According to Quinnipiac's poll, in a hypothetical three-way race featuring Joe Biden, Donald Trump, and Kennedy, RFK Jr. would receive 22% support, compared to 39% for Biden and 36% for former President Trump.

Most importantly, Quinnipiac found that Kennedy would take more voters away from Trump than he would from Biden, a remarkable scenario considering that Kennedy was officially running for the Democratic Party's nomination until October .

Support for Kennedy from Republicans and conservative-leaning independents is due primarily to his outspoken criticism of COVID-19 mandates and vaccines, as well as his anti-establishment rhetoric and unique, libertarian-leaning views on issues such as drug possession.

Kennedy could result in Biden getting a second term.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 03, 2023, 02:50:34 AMDude, this has been discussed before. Putting him in jail does not prohibit him from running for office and in all likelihood would only drive his approval rating higher.

And given he requires a secret service detachment as all previously serving US presidents do (for national security interests if nothing else), the only place they could reasonably detain him would be a place like the Mar-A-Lago. Locking him up in a maximum security pen is not an option for anyone, much as TDS sufferers might like to see it.

The Uniparty is practically out of ammunition at this point. Trump as a candidate is outpacing not simply the other nominees for the RNC ticket, he is fast outpacing the Uniparty's trained potato as well. He either needs to die by natural causes or assassination or they'll have to suspend the electoral process entirely to assure "business as usual".

I am worried that RFK's indy run could mean a second term for President Potato.

Quote from: Thiel on December 04, 2023, 05:53:49 PMI am worried that RFK's indy run could mean a second term for President Potato.

I doubt it will. Few enough TDS sufferers on the GOP side of the bench are going to buy into a platform that has an anti-second amendment actor at the helm, and at the rate Trump's popularity is growing, the few that do will be grossly outweighed by those deserting the Biden camp.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 04, 2023, 07:20:56 PMI doubt it will. Few enough TDS sufferers on the GOP side of the bench are going to buy into a platform that has an anti-second amendment actor at the helm, and at the rate Trump's popularity is growing, the few that do will be grossly outweighed by those deserting the Biden camp.

RFK is stealing more GOP than Democrat voters.

Quote from: Thiel on December 04, 2023, 07:23:27 PMRFK is stealing more GOP than Democrat voters.

RFK is going to steal all the Mitt Romney votes. Mittens type voters wouldnt vote Trump even if they were at risk of losing all their spiritual fuck puppets in Morman Valhalla. The people that matter is ME, ME, ME!!! Yes, Me, the people who are CONservative but tend to vote third party like the Constitutional Party. People like ME who voted for H. Ross Perot TWICE! People like ME who voted third party Bush's secont term because we saw him for the filthy RINO he is. People like ME who voted third party when Juan Dela Mc Stain ran because he too was a RINO shitbag!

In full disclosure, I DID vote Romney in 2012 because I hated that dog eating nigger president and Big Mike so fucking bad. I'm willing to bet Trump gets a lot of "hate biden" votes as well.

Quote from: Lokmar on December 04, 2023, 08:37:53 PMRFK is going to steal all the Mitt Romney votes. Mittens type voters wouldnt vote Trump even if they were at risk of losing all their spiritual fuck puppets in Morman Valhalla. The people that matter is ME, ME, ME!!! Yes, Me, the people who are CONservative but tend to vote third party like the Constitutional Party. People like ME who voted for H. Ross Perot TWICE! People like ME who voted third party Bush's secont term because we saw him for the filthy RINO he is. People like ME who voted third party when Juan Dela Mc Stain ran because he too was a RINO shitbag!

In full disclosure, I DID vote Romney in 2012 because I hated that dog eating nigger president and Big Mike so fucking bad. I'm willing to bet Trump gets a lot of "hate biden" votes as well.

He will steal a lot independent voters and that is how US elections are won or lost.

Quote from: Herman on December 04, 2023, 08:49:14 PMHe will steal a lot independent voters and that is how US elections are won or lost.

I AM an independent voter. I've voted third party more times (4X) than GOP (3X).

I saw a poll showing Haley would whip Jim Crow Joe. I don't like her. She is an establishment Republican. She is the new John McCain.

This is a coup being engineered with noticeable support from socially liberal business tycoons and democRATic donors who support a neocon foreign policy coupled with corporate tax cuts. Haley's campaign is starting to look like a takeover by wealthy members of the center left.

Quote from: Herman on December 04, 2023, 09:04:02 PMI saw a poll showing Haley would whip Jim Crow Joe. I don't like her. She is an establishment Republican. She is the new John McCain.

This is a coup being engineered with noticeable support from socially liberal business tycoons and democRATic donors who support a neocon foreign policy coupled with corporate tax cuts. Haley's campaign is starting to look like a takeover by wealthy members of the center left.

I guarantee you, if Trump isnt the nominee, the democRATs will win. Trump people have seen the Russia Hoax, the Insurrection Hoax, the false charges, the attempts to keep him off the ballot, along with the banana republic elections in 2020 and 2022. It is impossible to win the 2024 election without all of the die hard Trump supporters. Every single so called independent that flip flops between D and R wont matter.

Quote from: Lokmar on December 04, 2023, 09:50:27 PMI guarantee you, if Trump isnt the nominee, the democRATs will win. Trump people have seen the Russia Hoax, the Insurrection Hoax, the false charges, the attempts to keep him off the ballot, along with the banana republic elections in 2020 and 2022. It is impossible to win the 2024 election without all of the die hard Trump supporters. Every single so called independent that flip flops between D and R wont matter.

The blue collar base will not go out and vote for a neocon like Nikki Haley.

North Dakota Doug Burgum dropped out of the GOP leadership race.

Quote from: Thiel on December 04, 2023, 07:23:27 PMRFK is stealing more GOP than Democrat voters.

What Brother Lokmar said here (https://thebluecashew.net/index.php/topic,16017.msg524682.html#msg524682). You might also like to vet your sources a little more carefully; Biden's in-party approval rating is in the toilet, so much so that his own side are beginning to point out the dementia and general failing health of the old coot that independents and GOP alike had noticed long before. Feel free to bookmark this next bit - Biden's chances of taking the oath of office in 2024 are little better than nil at present. The RNC are showing every indication of wanting to shuffle him aside and will likely do so around August (assuming he makes it that far without keeling over) because come August they can appoint any candidate they like without reference to the voting public and insist he is the only chance they have to save the world from Orangeman.

That'll probably be Newsom they're pinning their hopes on, as well as praying like fuck to Moloch (or whoever) that they can bamboozle enough of their voter base to fall into line so that their shenanigans at the ballot box pass muster on the media outlets. And with groups like BLM and even the muslim contingent breaking for Trump at this point, it's a pretty folorn one.

But hey, I could be wrong and you may be right. After all we are still eleven months out from the general... in which case I strongly suggest your best option is to get to beating the pavements and knocking on doors. Sign up as many voters as you can because it sure as hell beats blackpilling this forum about the dooms and perils of another four years of Bidenomics, war, fucktards screwing with the energy grid et al. And get out there early on voting day to cast your vote. Because the bigger the gap you put between the current pathetic incumbent, the harder it will be for any "democracy fortification" to make the nut.

"Democracy dies in darkness" so it is said. So floodlight the shit out of it. It's exactly what the uniparty doesn't want you to do.

Quote from: Herman on December 04, 2023, 09:04:02 PMI saw a poll showing Haley would whip Jim Crow Joe. I don't like her. She is an establishment Republican.

If it were a matter of Haley v Biden, voter apathy would be rampant. I sure couldn't be arsed turning out. Haley is as much a warpig as the puppeteers of the currently serving bumblefuck.

The Make America Great Again... it might be sloganeering, but it's on point. And we've seen the fruits it bore and it was damn more palatable than when "the adults [got] back in charge".

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 05, 2023, 09:09:04 AMWhat Brother Lokmar said here (https://thebluecashew.net/index.php/topic,16017.msg524682.html#msg524682). You might also like to vet your sources a little more carefully; Biden's in-party approval rating is in the toilet, so much so that his own side are beginning to point out the dementia and general failing health of the old coot that independents and GOP alike had noticed long before. Feel free to bookmark this next bit - Biden's chances of taking the oath of office in 2024 are little better than nil at present. The RNC are showing every indication of wanting to shuffle him aside and will likely do so around August (assuming he makes it that far without keeling over) because come August they can appoint any candidate they like without reference to the voting public and insist he is the only chance they have to save the world from Orangeman.

That'll probably be Newsom they're pinning their hopes on, as well as praying like fuck to Moloch (or whoever) that they can bamboozle enough of their voter base to fall into line so that their shenanigans at the ballot box pass muster on the media outlets. And with groups like BLM and even the muslim contingent breaking for Trump at this point, it's a pretty folorn one.

But hey, I could be wrong and you may be right. After all we are still eleven months out from the general... in which case I strongly suggest your best option is to get to beating the pavements and knocking on doors. Sign up as many voters as you can because it sure as hell beats blackpilling this forum about the dooms and perils of another four years of Bidenomics, war, fucktards screwing with the energy grid et al. And get out there early on voting day to cast your vote. Because the bigger the gap you put between the current pathetic incumbent, the harder it will be for any "democracy fortification" to make the nut.

"Democracy dies in darkness" so it is said. So floodlight the shit out of it. It's exactly what the uniparty doesn't want you to do.

I don't doubt this, but it has nothing to do with my statement that conservative leaning voters like RFK better than Dems.

Quote from: DKG on December 05, 2023, 09:37:30 AMI don't doubt this, but it has nothing to do with my statement that conservative leaning voters like RFK better than Dems.

Dealt with that in the first five words of the post you quoted. Additionally, I was replying to Thiel, not you.

Sorry about your penis?

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 05, 2023, 09:42:47 AMDealt with that in the first five words of the post you quoted. Additionally, I was replying to Thiel, not you.

Sorry about your penis?

I don't doubt he will take the Mitt Romney votes. But, the fact of the matter remains that RFK's indy run is the best thing Biden could hope for.

Quote from: DKG on December 05, 2023, 09:37:30 AMI don't doubt this, but it has nothing to do with my statement that conservative leaning voters like RFK better than Dems.

At least in my case, the message is you're wrong. The number of potential Trump voters that walk into a booth and decide "Yea, I'm voting RFK instead of Trump" were never going to vote for Trump ITFP. Those arent Trump votes for RFK to steal. They were ALWAYS going somewhere else.

An example of this is my wifes next oldest sister. She's declared she cant vote for Trump because of religious convictions. She'd likely vote RFK or no one I guess.

My only sorrow regarding this situation is we cant divide the people after the election so that anyone who didnt vote Trump has to suffer the continued consequences of living under biden policies.

Quote from: Lokmar on December 05, 2023, 09:51:37 AMAt least in my case, the message is you're wrong. The number of potential Trump voters that walk into a booth and decide "Yea, I'm voting RFK instead of Trump" were never going to vote for Trump ITFP. Those arent Trump votes for RFK to steal. They were ALWAYS going somewhere else.

An example of this is my wifes next oldest sister. She's declared she cant vote for Trump because of religious convictions. She'd likely vote RFK or no one I guess.

My only sorrow regarding this situation is we cant divide the people after the election so that anyone who didnt vote Trump has to suffer the continued consequences of living under biden policies.

Trump's loyal base is not enought to reach 270 electoral votes. He needs indies and soft Dems.

Quote from: DKG on December 05, 2023, 10:00:28 AMTrump's loyal base is not enought to reach 270 electoral votes. He needs indies and soft Dems.

I dont know a single "soft dem" that did or will vote for him. I'm an indie and he needs my vote for sure. People like me put him into office the first time and even MORE of us voted for him the second time. I have no doubt that because of all the chicanery with EVERYTHING, Trump will get even more votes in 2024.

Hell, I recall people saying that Trump was going to be on a deserted island by himself 2 years ago. That couldnt have been more wrong.

Bottom line is, Haley cannot possibly win. She's completely alienated the Trump voter and her recent commentary has only made that worse. There arent enough squishy dems and center/center left indies to get her even close. I cant remember how many congressional races I've seen where a RINO was ran next to a dem and the people predictable decided "why go with a half assed RINO dem when we can get it all with the ACTUAL dem!". Very very seldom does that lesser of 2 evils plan pan out for RINO du jour.

The left vote almost exclusively with their emotions and the lesser of 2 evils is always an emotional vote. "Orange Man Bad" is a completely emotional argument, devoid of any real or based arguments such as:
1. Trump is a racist
2. Trump is literally hitler
3. Trump will start WW3
4. Trump will declare himself dictator
5. Trump is the devil
6. Trump hates gays
7. Trump is evil
8. Trump would suspend/destroy the Constitution
...... ad nauseam.

You know what, there isnt a single cogent argument I've heard, thats even been publicly presented, reasoning Trump would be a bad POTUS because his "X" position would result in a negative "Y" outcome. Not one.

Quote from: DKG on December 05, 2023, 09:48:22 AMI don't doubt he will take the Mitt Romney votes. But, the fact of the matter remains that RFK's indy run is the best thing Biden could hope for.

Well then, I guess you had best get to signing up voters to run against him as I suggested, hmmm? You know, in the part of my reply which you reckon had nothing to do with your post.

It might not matter given some of the other things I've said on the forum, but moaning all is lost when your preferred candidate is hemmoraging support, staff, campaign finances and shoe-lift futures is a defeatist way of going about things. It's this sort of behaviour which all too many conservatives indulge in and more often than not it's why you're forever losing.

Let it be known, I'm no conservative either... I'm very much a libertarian in outlook. I am assuredly NOT a republican. And I'd vote for Trump over all the other candidates in a heartbeat. So there's two "independantS" today who are screwing with the so-called "truth" handed you by your precious polls and media.

I wonder how many more are like Lokmar and myself in that regard.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 05, 2023, 10:34:17 AMWell then, I guess you had best get to signing up voters to run against him as I suggested, hmmm? You know, in the part of my reply which you reckon had nothing to do with your post.

It might not matter given some of the other things I've said on the forum, but moaning all is lost when your preferred candidate is hemmoraging support, staff, campaign finances and shoe-lift futures is a defeatist way of going about things. It's this sort of behaviour which all too many conservatives indulge in and more often than not it's why you're forever losing.

Let it be known, I'm no conservative either... I'm very much a libertarian in outlook. I am assuredly NOT a republican. And I'd vote for Trump over all the other candidates in a heartbeat. So there's two "independantS" today who are screwing with the so-called "truth" handed you by your precious polls and media.

I wonder how many more are like Lokmar and myself in that regard.

Biden is not my preferred candidate. Take away TDS and nobody would vote for him.

But, I didn't pull what I said about RFK out of thin air. I have looked at several different sources that show he is taking more support from Trump than Biden and that will be problematic. It's strange, because he is no conservative.

Quote from: DKG on December 05, 2023, 10:39:00 AMBiden is not my preferred candidate.

I was talking about DeSantis. Biden doesn't need shoe lifts, he needs a mobility scooter... and someone (Kamala perhaps) to push it out of Airforce One at 40,000 feet.

Quote from: DKG on December 05, 2023, 10:39:00 AMBut, I didn't pull what I said about RFK out of thin air. I have looked at several different sources that show he is taking more support from Trump than Biden and that will be problematic. It's strange, because he is no conservative.

Dude, you've been bitching about Trump for months on end now, echoing every talking point as to why he'll fail and until recently, trying to astroturf whatever groovy guy (or gal) the media has been schilling for. Might I suggest you strip away all the fluff and compare the metrics the polls are telling you NOW about Trump's chances and compare them to what was going on at the same point of the election cycle for 2016. I'll wait.

And if you're still convinced (as people were in the 2016 run) that some flip-flopping asthmatic from a family renown for its members getting assassinated is going to pose that much of a threat that Orangemanbad is going to shuffle off into the sunset with tears in his eyes, quit whining and go sign up voters for the Republicans.

Jesus christ man, but your negative nancy act is getting old.

I've been bitching about Trump? I would vote Trump without reservation if the choices were Biden/Trump/RFK.

Quote from: DKG on December 05, 2023, 11:03:44 AMI've been bitching about Trump?

Sure you have. You've been convinced he's going to lose for months and have slung your shingle under whatever candidate your "authorities" have told you are the safer bet. If all but one of those "safer" candidates dropped out today and they all endorsed the remaining challenger, you still wouldn't have enough to trump Trump and you'd like as not be baying for the RNC to pull a Hillary on him.

I tire of attempting to talk sense into you. Arguing the toss in a forum of a few score of active posters doesn't advance the action, especially not when its lamestream media talking points you're defaulting to. Just what do you propose we do about it; toss out the front runner and replace him with... who exactly?

Or are you insisting that all is lost and we should get to the catering arrangements for the inevitable pity party?

Inquiring minds etc.

Quote from: Lokmar on December 04, 2023, 08:37:53 PMRFK is going to steal all the Mitt Romney votes. Mittens type voters wouldnt vote Trump even if they were at risk of losing all their spiritual fuck puppets in Morman Valhalla. The people that matter is ME, ME, ME!!! Yes, Me, the people who are CONservative but tend to vote third party like the Constitutional Party. People like ME who voted for H. Ross Perot TWICE! People like ME who voted third party Bush's secont term because we saw him for the filthy RINO he is. People like ME who voted third party when Juan Dela Mc Stain ran because he too was a RINO shitbag!

In full disclosure, I DID vote Romney in 2012 because I hated that dog eating nigger president and Big Mike so fucking bad. I'm willing to bet Trump gets a lot of "hate biden" votes as well.

Kennedy's support is weak. It is not so much that they like him as they dislike the two frontrunners.

As for conservative voters supporting Kennedy, that could change. Look past his opposition to vaccine mandates and they will realize he is as left wing as his uncle Ted.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 05, 2023, 09:25:30 AMIf it were a matter of Haley v Biden, voter apathy would be rampant. I sure couldn't be arsed turning out. Haley is as much a warpig as the puppeteers of the currently serving bumblefuck.

The Make America Great Again... it might be sloganeering, but it's on point. And we've seen the fruits it bore and it was damn more palatable than when "the adults [got] back in charge".

That cunt is a politician for sale. A few years ago she was giving a populist image. Now she is a Paki version of Liz Cheney.

Quote from: Herman on December 05, 2023, 09:41:36 PMThat cunt is a politician for sale. A few years ago she was giving a populist image. Now she is a Paki version of Liz Cheney.

She is not the same person she was when she was running for governor of South Carolina.

Jim Crow Joe admitted Tuesday that he might not be running for re-election if Donald Trump were not running for a third time.

"If Trump wasn't running, I'm not sure I'd be running," Jim Crow Joe said.

Not only was Biden suggesting that he may have been dreaming of political retirement after serving only one term, but his comments suggest that he believes that he is not up to the task of a second term, either in terms of motivation or physical and mental fitness.

Even more significant, the admission appears to confirm what Democrats are increasingly concerned about: The Democratic Party has a succession problem. The remark strongly implies that Biden is running for re-election because the leadership of the Democratic Party does not believe the party has another candidate who could beat Trump for the White House.

Would moderate voters — those who determine general election outcomes — actually want to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris or California Gov. Gavin Newsom? Probably not, and top Democratic brass know it.

I bet what happens in 2024 is establishment Republicans will find a way to deny Trump the nomination

However he will run as an Independent splitting the Right Wing vote thus ensuring a Democratic victory. Therefore it's somewhat possible we could see 4 more years of 'potatohead' Biden. Not because he's popular but he wins by default

Quote from: JOE on December 08, 2023, 02:38:26 PMI bet what happens in 2024 is establishment Republicans will find a way to deny Trump the nomination

However he will run as an Independent splitting the Right Wing vote thus ensuring a Democratic victory. Therefore it's somewhat possible we could see 4 more years of 'potatohead' Biden. Not because he's popular but he wins by default

no.

Quote from: Lokmar on December 08, 2023, 02:50:02 PMno.

While he has his followers yer St trump is as unpopular inside his party than outside of it....Lokmeer!

Quote from: JOE on December 08, 2023, 03:08:09 PMWhile he has his followers yer St trump is as unpopular inside his party than outside of it....Lokmeer!

Absolutely josephine! Thats of course why he's leading DeSanctis by 37 points. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! PWN3D!

I'm thinking DeSantis drops out before Florida. Getting assfucked in the approval ratings in his home state would be political suicide.

There's no way to spin it: The newest Wall Street Journal poll is nothing but bad news for President Joe Biden.

First, the survey found that Biden is a weak general election candidate. If the election were held today, Donald Trump would defeat Biden by four points, according to the poll, which surveyed registered voters. Importantly, that result is outside the poll's 2.5-point margin of error.

Moreover, Nikki Haley would crush Biden in a general election matchup by 17 points, 51% to 34%, the poll found. Such a general election result is unlikely, but it demonstrates Biden's unpopularity with voters. Ron DeSantis, meanwhile, would tie Biden in a general election matchup.

Second, voters are broadly dissatisfied with Biden's job as president. The poll found that only 37% of registered voters approve of his job — a new low in the WSJ poll for the Biden presidency — while 61% disapprove. The low approval rating is a harbinger for Biden's re-election chances because rarely can an incumbent overcome such a low number.

Third, Biden is losing on important issues. He is under water on his handling of the economy, inflation, border security, the war in Ukraine, and the war between Israel and Hamas.

Overall, the poll found that registered voters believe Biden's policies have largely hurt them, 53% to just 23% who say Biden's policies have helped them. On the other hand, voters are satisfied with Trump's policies. Nearly half of respondents, 49%, said Trump's policies helped them, compared to just 37% who said Trump's policies hurt them.

Nikki Haley is tied to numerous political action committees that raised more than $28 million the last time they were required to disclose. Her top donors inclued Silicone valley billionaires and prominent Democrats.

I do hope Trump wins in 2024 simply because Biden is so completely terrible.  I don't think Trump will be very effective at much of anything, he wasn't in his first term, but he at least won't actively be trying to destroy the country the way Democrats are doing.  We will need someone far better organized who can actually work the legislative and administrative rules making process to get lasting change and actually reverse the idiocy of the radical left.  Trump has no knowledge, experience, or even interest in that which is why I think DeSantis would have been better. 

The only real worry I have is that Trump might abandon Ukraine this encouraging Putin and Xi into launching even larger wars.  I also wonder if Trump would stand up to Xi to prevent Taiwan from getting over run?  Those are my biggest international worries with Trump.

Trump would not have been my first choice as the GOP nominee either. Compared to any Democrat, he is a saviour.

Trump has a ten percent lead in Michigan. That is huge and the election is less than eleven months away.

The poll found majorities in both states — 54 percent in Georgia and 56 percent in Michigan — believe Biden's policies have worsened economic conditions as Biden struggles to sell what aides believe is a strong economy to voters.

CNN Polls: Trump leads Biden in Michigan and Georgia as broad majorities hold negative views of the current president

Former President Donald Trump has the upper hand over President Joe Biden in two critical battleground states – Michigan and Georgia – with broad majorities in both states holding negative views of the sitting president's job performance, policy positions and sharpness, according to new CNN polls conducted by SSRS.

In Georgia, a state Biden carried by a very narrow margin in 2020, registered voters say they prefer Trump (49%) over Biden (44%) for the presidency in a two-way hypothetical matchup. In Michigan, which Biden won by a wider margin, Trump has 50% support to Biden's 40%
https://news.yahoo.com/cnn-polls-trump-leads-biden-101810004.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

A Bloomberg News/Morning Consult poll released this week had similarly sour results for Biden.

That survey found Biden trailing Trump in several crucial swing states: by 11 points in North Carolina, by 7 points in Georgia, by 6 points in Wisconsin, by 5 points in Nevada, by 4 points in Michigan and by 3 points in Arizona.

The results came from a hypothetical ballot that included third-party candidates Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Cornel West and Jill Stein. There was also an option for participants to choose an unlisted candidate or answer "don't know/no opinion," or choose to forgo voting altogether.

While it's unclear if any of those candidates will secure ballot access next November, it still spells trouble for Biden. The president won each of those states over Trump in 2020 except for North Carolina, and Trump would only need to flip a few of those states to win the 270 electoral votes needed to secure the presidency.
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-takes-significant-polling-lead-110000963.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

If Trump can flip a few of these states, he gets back into the White House.

Quote from: Oerdin on December 15, 2023, 07:38:52 PMThe only real worry I have is that Trump might abandon Ukraine this encouraging Putin and Xi into launching even larger wars.  I also wonder if Trump would stand up to Xi to prevent Taiwan from getting over run?  Those are my biggest international worries with Trump.

That's why I think Trump is not the right leader for this time in history. America should not cozy up to Vladmir Putin and Russia. Beyond the Ukraine War, he has ulterior motives to exert influence beyond Russia's borders. Such as Europe. Plus he wants to destabilize the United States and the American economy. Contrary to what Trump has said, Vladmir Putin is not your/America's friend and never will be. He has very sinister intentions. Don't pal around with Putin.

His mindset isn't that much different from the Bolsheviks following World War I. Even before Stalin marched in to Eastern Europe after WWII, the Bolsheviks attempted to install pro Russian communists governments in Hungary and elsewhere.

If it's a Republican, I'd hope that they choose somebody sensible and moderate like Glenn Youngkin who'll stand up for American and Western Interests, and is anti-Putin.

Putin is American progressive's bogeyman. It gives Biden and that Paki Tory pm of Britain the distraction they need from their failing globalist agenda.

If Trump wins, there will be four years of no war. The progressive war machine will hate that.

I have committed to being a "Never Haley". Motherfuckers and their TDS have been never Trumpers so I see it as only fair. That dumb cunt hasnt a chance anyway tho.

Quote from: Lokmar on December 16, 2023, 03:06:53 PMI have committed to being a "Never Haley". Motherfuckers and their TDS have been never Trumpers so I see it as only fair. That dumb cunt hasnt a chance anyway tho.

She has morphed into Mitt Romney.

Quote from: JOE on December 16, 2023, 11:14:56 AMThat's why I think Trump is not the right leader for this time in history. America should not cozy up to Vladmir Putin and Russia. Beyond the Ukraine War, he has ulterior motives to exert influence beyond Russia's borders. Such as Europe. Plus he wants to destabilize the United States and the American economy. Contrary to what Trump has said, Vladmir Putin is not your/America's friend and never will be. He has very sinister intentions. Don't pal around with Putin.

His mindset isn't that much different from the Bolsheviks following World War I. Even before Stalin marched in to Eastern Europe after WWII, the Bolsheviks attempted to install pro Russian communists governments in Hungary and elsewhere.

If it's a Republican, I'd hope that they choose somebody sensible and moderate like Glenn Youngkin who'll stand up for American and Western Interests, and is anti-Putin.

The problem is our choices are only either Biden or Trump.  I wanted EeSantis but he isn't going to win.  Trump certainly has major draw backs but Biden is just a brain dead puppet controlled by hate filled anti-American communists who literally want to destroy the U.S..

I don't like it but I have to pick the lesser of two evils.

Quote from: Oerdin on December 17, 2023, 01:50:04 PMThe problem is our choices are only either Biden or Trump.  I wanted EeSantis but he isn't going to win.  Trump certainly has major draw backs but Biden is just a brain dead puppet controlled by hate filled anti-American communists who literally want to destroy the U.S..

I don't like it but I have to pick the lesser of two evils.

I like Trump. He was the only president in my lifetime to represent working class interests.

Quote from: Oerdin on December 17, 2023, 01:50:04 PMThe problem is our choices are only either Biden or Trump.  I wanted EeSantis but he isn't going to win.  Trump certainly has major draw backs but Biden is just a brain dead puppet controlled by hate filled anti-American communists who literally want to destroy the U.S..

I don't like it but I have to pick the lesser of two evils.

Donald Trump is far too socialistic for my tastes. I too wanted DeSantis, but thanks to Biden's abuse of the DOJ and FBI, Trump will be the GOP nominee.

Trump is who am I supporting, not because I agree with all of his spending ideas, but because Biden like Trudeau in Canada is poison for the middle class.

Quote from: Lokmar on December 16, 2023, 03:06:53 PMThat dumb cunt hasnt a chance anyway tho.

...but what if she flashes it an' shows it off....Lokmeer!?

It'd attract a lotta attention.

Would you lick it/her, Bud?!

Quote from: JOE on December 17, 2023, 10:43:19 PM...but what if she flashes it an' shows it off....Lokmeer!?

It'd attract a lotta attention.

Would you lick it/her, Bud?!

Her snatch cant run the fukin country, idiot.

Nikki Haley is right. The media are obsessed with Trump.

Just as they did in 2016, the media are boosting Trump's press visibility and covering his every word because they want him to be the 2024 Republican nominee. They want him to be the nominee again because they believe he will lose the general election. And by covering Trump more, the media cover other Republicans less, candidates whom they believe stand a better chance of beating Biden.

The USSC must overturn the Colarado court ruling. This is not how Section 3 of the 14th Amendment was intended to be used. And in fact, it should no longer be used anymore.

Quote from: DKG on December 20, 2023, 10:56:19 AMThe USSC must overturn the Colarado court ruling. This is not how Section 3 of the 14th Amendment was intended to be used. And in fact, it should no longer be used anymore.

I keep saying that a civil war is the only solution to this. The 2020 election was stolen, period. democRATs have resorted to every kind of tactic to rig elections in their favor. I would think this latest example would convince everyone of that.

Quote from: Lokmar on December 20, 2023, 12:33:22 PMI keep saying that a civil war is the only solution to this. The 2020 election was stolen, period. democRATs have resorted to every kind of tactic to rig elections in their favor. I would think this latest example would convince everyone of that.

I believe pragmatism can return to American and Canadian politics.

Quote from: DKG on December 20, 2023, 01:08:03 PMI believe pragmatism can return to American and Canadian politics.

It wont.

John Adams wrote to Thomas Jefferson:

"Have you ever found in history, one single example of a Nation thoroughly corrupted that was afterwards restored to virtue?... And without virtue, there can be no political liberty....Will you tell me how to prevent riches from becoming the effects of temperance and industry? Will you tell me how to prevent luxury from producing effeminacy, intoxication, extravagance, vice and folly?...I believe no effort in favor is lost..."

I have to ask, you REALLY think there's a chance?

Quote from: Lokmar on December 20, 2023, 01:09:37 PMIt wont.

We shall see.

Who might Donald Trump name as hi running mate. Trump himself said in an interview with NBC in September that he hasn't thought too much about the role but added he "likes the concept" of a woman as vice president.

"We're going to choose the best person," he said.

Some possibilities include:

Tim Scott
South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott, who dropped out of the presidential race last month, was floated as a potential running mate early on in the primary race. Unlike some of his rivals, the lawmaker did not criticize Trump directly when he was on the campaign trail.

Scott worked on opportunity zones − a bipartisan initiative − in Trump's 2017 tax cut legislation. He is also 58 and Black, which would be key for Trump as he seeks to expand his coalition of supporters.

Trump was asked on Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures" whether he would choose Scott as a running mate in July, and said he thinks Scott is a "very good guy" and talented.

"We did opportunity zones together. It's never been talked about. It's one of the most successful economic development things ever done in this country. And Tim is very good," Trump said. "I mean, I could see Tim doing something with the administration."


Nikki Haley
Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., has argued that former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley would be a good pick for Trump's vice president as she would pull independent voters to his circle of supporters.

"A large gender gap exists in his current polling and attempting to reach out to more moderate suburban female voters in swing states will be crucially important in the general election," said Aaron Kall, an elections expert at the University of Michigan. "Given the advanced ages of Trump and Biden, selecting a younger candidate could help alleviate any concerns over health."

Having Haley on Trump's ticket might also increase his chances of beating Biden. Numerous polls have found that Haley has a higher chance of winning against Biden in a hypothetical matchup than other Republican candidates.

But when asked by a voter in Iowa this month whether she would consider being Trump's number two, she made clear she wouldn't accept the position.

"I don't play for second," she said. "I've never played for second my entire life."


Kristi Noem
South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem, one of Trump's fiercest allies, is also being floated after she endorsed the former president at an event in September. Trump said in an interview with NBC that same month he has his eye on Noem as a potential running mate.

"I think she's fantastic. She's been a great governor. She gave me a very full-throated endorsement - a beautiful endorsement actually," Trump said. "And, you know, it's been a very good state for me and certainly she'd be one of the people I'd consider."


Sarah Huckabee Sanders
Sanders served as the White House press secretary in the Trump administration from 2017 to 2019, advising him on personnel, policy and communications strategy, according to her website. When Sanders stepped down from her position, Trump acknowledged in a news conference that the pair have been through a lot together and that she did an incredible job.

"She's tough and she's good," Trump said.


Ben Carson
He served as the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development in the Trump administration, said he would be willing to serve as Trump's running mate when the former president ran in 2016.

When Carson announced he would leave after Trump's first term, he was pressed in a 2019 Newsmax interview on whether he would be interested in serving in a second Trump administration. Carson said, "I would be interested in returning to the private sector, because I think you have just as much influence — maybe more — there."


Marjorie Taylor Greene
Staunch Trump supporter Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., told the Atlanta-Journal Constitution in August that it would be an "honor" if she was chosen for the vice president spot and would consider it "very, very heavily."

Greene also supports an impeachment inquiry against Biden - joining other Republican lawmakers in alleging Biden was involved in his family's business dealings as vice president - and accused him of treason, while defending Trump against his indictments.

However, Greene's far-right stances and rhetoric might not bode well for Trump if he is seeking to attract moderate Republicans to his base.


Elise Stefanik
Rumors about Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y., being a possible running mate for Trump have also been floated, as she is one of the former president's fiercest allies.

She is 39 and could appeal to younger women looking to back the former president. However, she is from New York, which has voted blue in recent presidential elections.

Electoral considerations are often at play in Vice-Presidential selections, so someone who could help Republicans flip a state like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, Georgia, or Arizona could be especially helpful.


Kari Lake
Though former Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake launched a Senate bid in October, there's some speculation that she could land higher office as Trump's potential running mate.


Vivek Ramaswamy
Though businessman and self-proclaimed outsider Vivek Ramaswamy is competing for the Republican nomination, he has defended Trump numerous times on the campaign trail and acknowledged Trump was the best president of the 21st century.

Trump has also taken notice of Ramaswamy's efforts, crowning him the winner of the first Republican debate in August.

"He's a very, very, very intelligent person. He's got good energy, and he could be some form of something. I tell you, I think he'd be very good," Trump said in August when asked by conservative host Glenn Beck what he thought of Ramaswamy as vice president.

However, Ramaswamy has no political experience, and he said he wasn't interested in playing for second place in an interview.

"Donald Trump and I share something in common and that is that neither of us would do well in a number 2 position," he said on Fox News in August.


Of these possibilities, I would gues that Kristi Noem and Tim Scott would be the most probable candidates.

Michigan didn't follow Colorado's bad example. Trump will appear on the ballot in that state.

Quote from: Brent on December 27, 2023, 06:43:12 PMMichigan didn't follow Colorado's bad example. Trump will appear on the ballot in that state.

The Michigan Justices read the tea leaves.  Government telling the People whom they might vote for is Tyranny with a capital P.

Quote from: Brent on December 27, 2023, 06:43:12 PMMichigan didn't follow Colorado's bad example. Trump will appear on the ballot in that state.

I have a bad feeling about this.  Something not sitting right.  I wonder if there will be an election.  It is something every other day.  Today in spring field in my city the last confederate monument was removed.  I mean they are erasing history and now taking candidates off the ballots. Disgraceful. 

Quote from: Moonie on December 27, 2023, 09:39:50 PMI have a bad feeling about this.  Something not sitting right.  I wonder if there will be an election.  It is something every other day.  Today in spring field in my city the last confederate monument was removed.  I mean they are erasing history and now taking candidates off the ballots. Disgraceful. 

I agree kid, Jim Crow Joe's US has become an authoritarian state.

Facing a monumental challenge to get on the ballot in all 50 states and the District of Columbia, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. continues to criticize legal efforts to prevent former President Donald Trump from appearing on the ballot in multiple states.

He wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter: "Colorado Supreme Court ruling makes America look like a Banana Republic. Why doesn't every American understand that if they can do this to a former US President, EVERYONE is vulnerable to punishment for crimes with which they have never been convicted. Democracy would be a total shambles."

Mr Kennedy is correct. The Colorado court disenfranchised millions of Americans. But, I doubt it will stand.

In another post on the platform, Mr. Kennedy wrote: "If Trump is kept out of office through judicial fiat rather than being defeated in a fair election, his supporters will never accept the result. This country will become ungovernable."

After the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) rejected his plea for Secret Service protection for a third time, 2024 independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. called the decision a political move and "weaponization of government" against candidates seeking to unseat President Joe Biden.

Since he declared his candidacy in April, two armed men have been arrested in separate incidents attempting to gain access to Mr. Kennedy.

"Denied Secret Service again! It's not just about me. It's another example of weaponization of government against Biden's political opponents. They know that 30¢ of every campaign dollar goes to keeping me safe," Mr. Kennedy wrote on X.

"Homeland Security gave no explanation for rejecting our application. Law says all 'major candidates' get protection. I'm polling 22 percent (and 40 percent among young voters—beating both [President Joe] Biden and [former President Donald] Trump). My opinion may be biased, but that seems pretty "major" to me, Mr. Kennedy said.

'A Political Agenda'
Mr. Kennedy has stated that his campaign has spent millions of dollars on private security.

He contends that the continued denial of Secret Service protection is "political" and part of a trend of federal agencies being weaponized to serve a political agenda."

Authorities making the decisions would rather he "spend money on protection than spending it on field organization or advertising," Mr. Kennedy says.

The Dems really are panicking and being blatant about how much they hate democracy and people getting to vote for a candidate of their choice.  Notice how all of this started the moment Trump 2as beating Biden in the polls?

Quote from: Oerdin on December 30, 2023, 12:16:52 PMThe Dems really are panicking and being blatant about how much they hate democracy and people getting to vote for a candidate of their choice.  Notice how all of this started the moment Trump 2as beating Biden in the polls?

Just a coincidence.  :crampe:

Quote from: DKG on December 30, 2023, 11:58:28 AMAfter the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) rejected his plea for Secret Service protection for a third time, 2024 independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. called the decision a political move and "weaponization of government" against candidates seeking to unseat President Joe Biden.

Since he declared his candidacy in April, two armed men have been arrested in separate incidents attempting to gain access to Mr. Kennedy.

"Denied Secret Service again! It's not just about me. It's another example of weaponization of government against Biden's political opponents. They know that 30¢ of every campaign dollar goes to keeping me safe," Mr. Kennedy wrote on X.

"Homeland Security gave no explanation for rejecting our application. Law says all 'major candidates' get protection. I'm polling 22 percent (and 40 percent among young voters—beating both [President Joe] Biden and [former President Donald] Trump). My opinion may be biased, but that seems pretty "major" to me, Mr. Kennedy said.

'A Political Agenda'
Mr. Kennedy has stated that his campaign has spent millions of dollars on private security.

He contends that the continued denial of Secret Service protection is "political" and part of a trend of federal agencies being weaponized to serve a political agenda."

Authorities making the decisions would rather he "spend money on protection than spending it on field organization or advertising," Mr. Kennedy says.

Here's a crazy idea for Team Biden: campaign on a platform that the middle class can embrace.

This will make the rounds elsewhere.

They would never do that.  Oh, they might claim it was for the middle class but literally everything Democrats do harms the middle class.

Quote from: Oerdin on December 30, 2023, 04:41:44 PMThey would never do that.  Oh, they might claim it was for the middle class but literally everything Democrats do harms the middle class.

True Dope says his carbon tax which increases annually and raises the price of everything is putting more money in the bank accounts of middle class Canadians. :crazy:

Quote from: Oerdin on December 30, 2023, 12:16:52 PMThe Dems really are panicking and being blatant about how much they hate democracy and people getting to vote for a candidate of their choice.  Notice how all of this started the moment Trump 2as beating Biden in the polls?

That is very true. If Joe Biden had a double digit lead on Trump, the Democrats would not be desperately trying to prevent voters from casting a ballot for him.

This is funny and true.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1102705434111402

Quote from: Herman on December 30, 2023, 11:42:19 PMThis is funny and true.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1102705434111402

:thumbup2:  :crampe:

Quote from: Shen Li on December 30, 2023, 03:54:51 PMHere's a crazy idea for Team Biden: campaign on a platform that the middle class can embrace.

This will make the rounds elsewhere.

The Biden administration will never change course no matter how unpopular their agenda is with Americans.

Quote from: DKG on December 31, 2023, 11:11:03 AMThe Biden administration will never change course no matter how unpopular their agenda is with Americans.

Which is why they need to knock out the competition if they have any chance of winning this year.

It may be a new year, but President Joe Biden is facing the same bad news about his re-election prospects.

A new USA Today/Suffolk University poll discovered that Biden is hemorrhaging support among Hispanic voters, black voters, and young voters — three demographic groups critical to his 2020 election victory.

In 2020, Biden won the Hispanic vote by a 33-point margin over Donald Trump, 65% to 32%. But the new poll found that Biden is now trailing Trump among Hispanic voters by a five-point margin, 39% to 34%.

The poll, moreover, found that Biden's support among black voters has shrunk by a whopping 24 points. Whereas he won the black vote by 87% in 2020, now just 63% of black voters support Biden.

Among voters under age 35, Trump leads Biden by four points, 37% to 33%, the USA Today/Suffolk University poll found.

These results, coming just 10 months before the election, are stunning. Their impact lies in the fact that each of these voter groups traditionally comprise a significant portion of the Democratic voter base. That Trump leads Biden in two of those groups demonstrates just how unpopular a candidate Biden is.

Trump now leads Biden by an average of 2.3% in major polls, according to RealClearPolitics. He never led Biden in the run-up to the 2020 election.

Here's an election prediction for 2024, and it does not look good for Biden to the delight Conservatives/Republicans here:


...that's why I think Democrats should get rid of Biden asap.

Old men way past their shelf life have a way of bringing their parties down to defeat. How many times does history have to repeat itself before they get the message?!

If the Democrats don't get rid of Biden then they are indeed...'Dumbocrats'.

The democrats don't care if Biden loses. Not really.
Does anyone truly think Joe 'My Brain Is A Sack Of Drunken Squirrels' Biden is literally running the country?

Presidents, and politicians generally, are merely lightning rods.
A puppet show.
Something to argue about while nothing fundamentally changes.

As Frank Zappa correctly observed:
"Government is the entertainment division of the military industrial complex."

Smart fella.

Hence the reason democrats are encouraging their lemming base to actually vote for Nikkie haly in the primaries just to sink Trump

why?

Because in the event she gets elected she's still the type of war monger the industrial war machine needs to feed their pockets.

look at this abomination of a failure to the oval office telling us we don't have enough to properly secure our border after blowing over 100 billion on Ukraine

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 04, 2024, 04:32:58 PMlook at this abomination of a failure to the oval office telling us we don't have enough to properly secure our border after blowing over 100 billion on Ukraine

There is no bigger issue than illegal immigration. Biden isn't just ignoring the problem, he is enabling it.

Quote from: Brent on January 04, 2024, 06:42:59 PMThere is no bigger issue than illegal immigration. Biden isn't just ignoring the problem, he is enabling it.

and then you have these rodent democrat shitbags from so called "sanctuary cities" whining when 1/1000th of the illegal arrivals are bused to their backyard.

they actually have the nerve to say it's because no one coordinates with them in advance

Like the fucking Mexican government picks up the phone and calls Abbot on the first day of every month with a full migration plan for the next 30 days

I tell ya democrats are utter shameless scum

It's looking like Joe would rather lose over the immigration issue than the Israel issue which tracks because the latter is far more important to him and the establishment's long-term goals.

It's far less messy pointing to being 'abandoned' by black and brown voters because of immigration than admitting they walked away because of a genocide perpetrated by our "aircraft carrier in the region" (-RFKJr).

The democrats believe they can win back hispanics and african-americans by tossing them a few crumbs down the road but the middle east is crucial to their plans for complete global hegemony; no merely domestic issues can be allowed to fuck with that.

Not even Ukraine is anywhere close to the importance of maintaining our military presence in the middle east which is why the Biden regime has gone around congress to ensure a flow of arms and munitions to Israel while they tell Zelensky to eat shit and make peace with Russia, if he can.

LoL
Someone should have warned Voldemort:
The only thing more dangerous than being an enemy of 'Murica is being one of 'Murica's friends.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 04, 2024, 07:20:45 PMand then you have these rodent democrat shitbags from so called "sanctuary cities" whining when 1/1000th of the illegal arrivals are bused to their backyard.

they actually have the nerve to say it's because no one coordinates with them in advance

Like the fucking Mexican government picks up the phone and calls Abbot on the first day of every month with a full migration plan for the next 30 days

I tell ya democrats are utter shameless scum

I laugh like a hyena when I see some democRAT mayor or governor whining about all the illegals arriving in their cities and states. Who do they blame? Not Jim Crow Joe, no. They blame Abbot and DeSantis.

Quote from: Herman on January 04, 2024, 08:57:41 PMI laugh like a hyena when I see some democRAT mayor or governor whining about all the illegals arriving in their cities and states. Who do they blame? Not Jim Crow Joe, no. They blame Abbot and DeSantis.

And demonstrate their unmitigated hypocrisy in the process

But you need an IQ above 100 to get that which is why their democrat slobbering lemming base, idiots like tPotf, happily parrot such idiotic talking points

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 04, 2024, 09:17:48 PMAnd demonstrate their unmitigated hypocrisy in the process

But you need an IQ above 100 to get that which is why their democrat slobbering lemming base, idiots like tPotf, happily parrot such idiotic talking points

Do they actually think Jim Crow Joe bears no responsibility for the migrant crisis. Jesus H, do they actually believe that shit.

Quote from: Herman on January 04, 2024, 09:20:10 PMDo they actually think Jim Crow Joe bears no responsibility for the migrant crisis. Jesus H, do they actually believe that shit.

worse than that!

They'll tell you the current crisis is Trump's fault.

Yes yes, even after the guy fought for FOUR fucking years to get a wall built to keep these cretins out.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 04, 2024, 09:24:32 PMworse than that!

They'll tell you the current crisis is Trump's fault.

Yes yes, even after the guy fought for FOUR fucking years to get a wall built to keep these cretins out.

Remain in Mexico that Jim Crow Joe reversed. Are they ignorant of that too.

Quote from: Herman on January 04, 2024, 09:37:49 PMRemain in Mexico that Jim Crow Joe reversed. Are they ignorant of that too.

Democrats are stupid stupid people.

I remember those idiots on the left saying the wall would be ineffective and showed a picture of 3 or 4 young migrants scaling the wall. That was their justification for stonewalling a project that would have mitigated this crisis

yeah, since 0.0001% of the migrants have both the intelligence and the physical strength and endurance to actually scale the wall that means the wall is COMPLETELY USELESS

Democrats are fucking morons of the dumbest order. Safes have been broken into from time to time and locks have been defeated too. Does this mean that banks should no long use safes to store their money and leave the fucking doors open after hours?

idiot dolts I swear

Jesus

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 04, 2024, 09:48:19 PMDemocrats are stupid stupid people.

I remember those idiots on the left saying the wall would be ineffective and showed a picture of 3 or 4 young migrants scaling the wall. That was their justification for stonewalling a project that would have mitigated this crisis

yeah, since 0.0001% of the migrants have both the intelligence and the physical strength and endurance to actually scale the wall that means the wall is COMPLETELY USELESS

Democrats are fucking morons of the dumbest order. Safes have been broken into from time to time and locks have been defeated too. Does this mean that banks should no long use safes to store their money and leave the fucking doors open after hours?

idiot dolts I swear

Jesus

Brother, there is a reason countries all over the world have either built or have planned border barriers. The problem aint that democRATs think they don't work. The problem is that democRATs know they do work. That is why they oppose them.

Quote from: Herman on January 04, 2024, 09:53:59 PMBrother, there is a reason countries all over the world have either built or have planned border barriers. The problem aint that democRATs think they don't work. The problem is that democRATs know they do work. That is why they oppose them.

oh I know that. The idiots on the left will parrot this narrative with a straight fucking face though

I remember gutting apegirl and the seamoron over this subject while I was still posting at Barnyard Farm animals dot com

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 04, 2024, 09:57:59 PMoh I know that. The idiots on the left will parrot this narrative with a straight fucking face though

I remember gutting apegirl and the seamoron over this subject while I was still posting at Barnyard Farm animals dot com

Seamoron is as ignorant as he is stupid. Costa Rica, where he lives will be building a border barrier to keep Nicaraguans out.

Quote from: Herman on January 04, 2024, 10:43:20 PMSeamoron is as ignorant as he is stupid. Costa Rica, where he lives will be building a border barrier to keep Nicaraguans out.

the irony is delicious isn't it?

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 04, 2024, 10:46:00 PMthe irony is delicious isn't it?

Hell ya.

Quote from: Herman on January 04, 2024, 10:47:38 PMHell ya.

libtards are always spitting in the sky and urinated into the oncoming wind

then wonder why they smell like fucking piss all the time

Chicago Alderman Brian Hopkins (D) said Thursday that he doubts Chicago would have become a "sanctuary city" if the city knew what it would have meant for the future.

The alderman pointed to an effort to add a referendum to the city's March ballot that sought to ask voters if they want to maintain Chicago's status as a sanctuary city. Mayor Brandon Johnson (D) blocked that effort, Hopkins explained.

"Our status as a sanctuary city first was established way back in the '80s. This is not new. We put this flag in the ground a long time ago. No one at that time had any idea that it would lead to this today. This was completely unpredicted and it's completely unprecedented, and nobody thought a sanctuary city would mean what it means," he said.

Supreme court agrees to take up the case of whether trump should be removed from the ballot

watch every last shitbag parasite scumbag leftist subhuman filthy democrat slime-ball vote the way we know they are going to vote

I'll put money on it

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on January 05, 2024, 07:58:51 PMSupreme court agrees to take up the case of whether trump should be removed from the ballot

watch every last shitbag parasite scumbag leftist subhuman filthy democrat slime-ball vote the way we know they are going to vote

I'll put money on it

They will not rule to allow states to remove Trump from the ballot.

Quote from: Herman on January 05, 2024, 09:42:10 PMThey will not rule to allow states to remove Trump from the ballot.

I really hope you're right....but I also want to see this country devolve into a civil war and watch all these mexcrements flee death like rats on a sinking ship only to get mowed down.

Quote from: Lokmar on January 05, 2024, 10:38:14 PMI really hope you're right....but I also want to see this country devolve into a civil war and watch all these mexcrements flee death like rats on a sinking ship only to get mowed down.

Bet on the Supreme Court overruling Colorado and Maine.

As Ben Shapiro points out, it is not looking good for Biden.

Trump is leading by 2.2% in the RealClearPolitics polling average. That doesn't sound like a lot until you realize that Trump trailed Joe Biden in that same average on election day 2020 by 7.2% — and only lost by 4.5%.

Or that Hillary Clinton was leading in that same average by 3.2% on Election Day 2016 and only won the popular vote by 2.1%. Donald Trump almost always outdraws his polling number.

What's more, Biden is stuck in neutral. Why? The answer is obvious: Biden lied to voters. He campaigned as a moderate in the primaries, capitalized on that image in the general while pushing steadily to the left, and then governed from the left.

Now, says political scientist Ruy Teixeira, "Biden is polling behind Trump nationally and in every swing state, with the possible exception of Wisconsin. Trump is preferred to Biden by wide margins on voters' most important issue, the economy and inflation, as well as their second most important issue, immigration and border security and crime and public safety. Biden's approval rating at this point in his presidency is the lowest of any president going back to the 1940s, when the era of modern polling began."

That's presumably why he's going to go on a Trump-bashing tour beginning this week, labelling Trump a racist and a fascist.

This isn't likely to work. At all.

It's unlikely to work because everyone knows Trump. Everything about Trump is baked into the cake. Everyone knows that Trump's 2020 post-election activities didn't change the outcome of the election; Biden, after all, is president. What's more, the pitch that Trump is more racist than Biden doesn't work. Biden is the DEI president, a man who has yammered incessantly in favor of racial carve-outs and staffed his administration based on intersectional characteristics.

The pitch that Trump is a fascist won't work either. As even George Will, a Trump opponent, points out, "Joe Biden is, like Trump, an authoritarian recidivist mostly stymied by courts." Will gives a litany of Biden constitutional violations: "the eviction moratorium, the vaccine mandate, the cancellation of student debt," among others.

This means that Biden is going to have to actually succeed to win.

The only thing that might save him would be ... you know, good things happening in America.

But his policies prevent just that.

Rich Lowry bestowed on a recent column this provocative title: "Brace Yourselves: The Left Will Roil the Country Again If Donald Trump Beats Joe Biden." No kidding! For Trump's enemies on the left, Lowry pointed out, "saving democracy doesn't mean upholding the rules no matter what and letting the voters decide the election and the fate of the next president. No, it means blocking Trump by any means necessary, regardless of the consequences for the rule of law, democratic politics, or faith in our system of government."

There is indeed an excellent chance the left will go nuts if Trump squeaks back into the presidency. Lowry is certainly correct that "the reaction will make the pro-Hamas protests that have roiled campuses and disrupted transportation nodes around the country look small by comparison." Think George Floyd riots but on a scale that dwarfs even those!

And the left will also organize throughout other hollowed-out, one-time Western constitutional democracies (like Germany and Canada) to drive home their dissatisfaction with the American electorate. I would expect to see our cities set aflame, with race-baiting Democratic politicians on hand to incite mob violence.

As in the George Floyd riots, the corporate press here and among their counterparts in other Western countries will justify the violence as "righteous indignation" and, if things really become unruly, place the blame on "MAGA Republicans." In other words, a further top down war on working class voters who had the gall to voter for someone other than the Führer Biden.

For months, the Biden campaign has been quietly trying to shape the media narrative about the 2024 election. Not only are the White House and Biden himself frustrated with the media's coverage of the economy, for example, but the Biden campaign is especially concerned about the airtime that polls are receiving because they show Biden losing to Donald Trump.

Biden and his campaign have scolded the Dem friendly media like the The New York Times, and WaPo that they should dedicate more time to his narrative that Trump represents an existential threat to democracy. That narrative, of course, serves only to scare voters into supporting Biden's re-election.

Chris Christie suspended his presidential campaign.

Quote from: Thiel on January 10, 2024, 08:07:29 PMChris Christie suspended his presidential campaign.

Good riddance to the fat fuk! He'll be stalking Trump full time now.

Quote from: Lokmar on January 10, 2024, 08:36:24 PMGood riddance to the fat fuk! He'll be stalking Trump full time now.

Yep. Adios fat boy.

Trump has already selected his running mate for the 2024 race, he revealed on Wednesday night, but refused to say who he had picked.

Quote from: Lokmar on January 10, 2024, 08:36:24 PMGood riddance to the fat fuk! He'll be stalking Trump full time now.

He was not my candidate and I will leave it at that.

Vivek Ramaswamy predicts that DeSantis's donors will demand he drop out of the race after Iowa and become Nikki Haley's running mate.

Rumors are swirling about RFK's veep pick. His expect veep announcement date is supposed to coincide with a trip to Honolulu.

Will it be Tulsi Gabbard? If it is, that would likely place Kennedy in the strongest independent candidate position since Ross Perot in 1992.

The Biden team will be throwing an early victory party if Gabbard joins the Kennedy team. That ticket will steal a lot more votes fron Trump than Biden.

Quote from: Thiel on January 14, 2024, 08:39:47 PMThe Biden team will be throwing an early victory party if Gabbard joins the Kennedy team. That ticket will steal a lot more votes fron Trump than Biden.

I keep telling you people, those voters will never vote Trump anyway. They're all Christie voters. Let em go. Fuk em!

Quote from: Lokmar on January 14, 2024, 09:18:56 PMI keep telling you people, those voters will never vote Trump anyway. They're all Christie voters. Let em go. Fuk em!

A lot of them are independents who hate what Biden is doing to the country. RFK and Gabbard is bad news for Trump.

Quote from: Herman on January 14, 2024, 10:02:36 PMA lot of them are independents who hate what Biden is doing to the country. RFK and Gabbard is bad news for Trump.

People who would vote for RFK arent going to vote for Trump. I actually welcome RFK into the race and pray he gets in. He'll strip voters from biden, end of.

 :yeahhh:  :thumbup2:
Pollster Frank Luntz declared last year that Donald Trump "could never win" the 2024 presidential election. Now, Luntz says he would bet six figures that Trump does win.

Speaking on a New York Times podcast, Luntz said last May:

If Donald Trump runs for president, as a Republican, he's the odds-on favorite to win the nomination. He could never win a general election. But I can't imagine losing a Republican primary. That's how significant he is within the GOP. ... I would bet on him to be the nominee. And I would bet on him losing to whatever Democratic nominee there was.
But the Republican pollster now believes Trump is the odds-on favorite to win the 2024 election.

In a video posted to social media last week, Luntz is asked, "If you had to bet $150,000 on who's gonna win in November, who would you bet on?"

Clearly uncomfortable with what he was about to say, Luntz squirmed as he admitted that he would bet the large sum of money on Trump to defeat President Joe Biden in a re-match.

"I never dreamed that I would say this, but I would bet on Trump," Luntz admitted.

Quote from: Lokmar on January 14, 2024, 09:18:56 PMI keep telling you people, those voters will never vote Trump anyway. They're all Christie voters. Let em go. Fuk em!

Trump cannot win with only his base. He must get some support from independents to return to the white house.

Quote from: Thiel on January 15, 2024, 08:17:13 PMTrump cannot win with only his base. He must get some support from independents to return to the white house.

Look man, Trump got 74 million votes last time. More than enough to win. If you believe biden ACTUALLY got 81 million votes from live people, I'm not gonna try to change your mind...but if you think 74 million votes is just a "base", well, thats just plain dumb.

biden's support is in the fukin toilet. He has a track record. They will have to cheat even more votes to keep biden in the WH and if that happens, I hope you finally see the light for how corrupt our elections are.

Its widely believed that Nixon beat Kennedy in 1960 BTW.

Quote from: Brent on January 15, 2024, 07:08:05 PM:yeahhh:  :thumbup2:
Pollster Frank Luntz declared last year that Donald Trump "could never win" the 2024 presidential election. Now, Luntz says he would bet six figures that Trump does win.

Speaking on a New York Times podcast, Luntz said last May:

If Donald Trump runs for president, as a Republican, he's the odds-on favorite to win the nomination. He could never win a general election. But I can't imagine losing a Republican primary. That's how significant he is within the GOP. ... I would bet on him to be the nominee. And I would bet on him losing to whatever Democratic nominee there was.
But the Republican pollster now believes Trump is the odds-on favorite to win the 2024 election.

In a video posted to social media last week, Luntz is asked, "If you had to bet $150,000 on who's gonna win in November, who would you bet on?"

Clearly uncomfortable with what he was about to say, Luntz squirmed as he admitted that he would bet the large sum of money on Trump to defeat President Joe Biden in a re-match.

"I never dreamed that I would say this, but I would bet on Trump," Luntz admitted.

To hell with Frank Luntz.

Canadace Owens supports Vivek.

I saw this on Canadian Press.

Trump scored a record-setting win in the Iowa caucuses on Monday with his rivals languishing far behind, a victory that sent a resounding message that the GOP's 2024 presidential nomination is his to lose.

Trump was on track to set a record for a contested Iowa Republican caucus with a margin of victory exceeding the nearly 13 percentage points that Bob Dole won by in 1988.

It was not immediately clear who would emerge as the second-place finisher in the opening contest of the Republican nomination fight, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis or former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley. In what was expected to be a low-turnout affair,

I would like to see all the Republican challengers drop out and rally behind Trump. Nikki Haley will not drop out as long as progressive money keeps rolling in.

Quote from: Lokmar on January 15, 2024, 09:04:09 PMLook man, Trump got 74 million votes last time. More than enough to win. If you believe biden ACTUALLY got 81 million votes from live people, I'm not gonna try to change your mind...but if you think 74 million votes is just a "base", well, thats just plain dumb.

biden's support is in the fukin toilet. He has a track record. They will have to cheat even more votes to keep biden in the WH and if that happens, I hope you finally see the light for how corrupt our elections are.

Its widely believed that Nixon beat Kennedy in 1960 BTW.

I agree turnout was unusually high in 2020. Will it be again in 2024? I don't know. But, a strong Kennedy third party run with someone like Tulsi is not good news for Trump trying to win independents. Biden is very unpopular, so maybe independents will realize that a vote for Kennedy is a vote for Biden.

Quote from: Brent on January 16, 2024, 07:28:54 PMI would like to see all the Republican challengers drop out and rally behind Trump. Nikki Haley will not drop out as long as progressive money keeps rolling in.

Nikki Haley will be the last one to drop out of the race.

Quote from: Herman on January 16, 2024, 09:42:43 PMNikki Haley will be the last one to drop out of the race.

That stupid bitch suggesting everyone be registered to be on the inferwebs will be her achilles heel.

Quote from: Lokmar on January 17, 2024, 12:15:58 AMThat stupid bitch suggesting everyone be registered to be on the inferwebs will be her achilles heel.

She is proposing social media users to verify their identities before posting, citing "national security" concerns.

Quote from: DKG on January 17, 2024, 07:51:11 AMShe is proposing social media users to verify their identities before posting, citing "national security" concerns.

potato potatoe

Stupid bitch is a complete idiot.

I don't like the Republican Party, but Trump is a working class hero. DeSantis and the brown guy that dropped out and endorsed Trump are good too. Nikki Haley, and Chris Christie are puppets for their billionaire donors.

None of Trump's voters went out in subzero temperatures and icy roads on Monday to vote for Trump because of Anthony Fauci, the CARES Act, "Operation Warp Speed," or all of the bad budget bills Trump signed. The opposite is true. They perceive,  wrongly or rightly, that Trump will fight the malevolent forces that those personnel picks and policies represent.

Thus we can say that 81% of Iowa Republican voters, at least in their minds — cast ballots aligned with our worldview and not that of Mitch McConnell. It might even be more than 81% because a good chunk of Nikki Haley's voters were Democrats who registered that evening just to crash the other party's caucus.

If it wasn't for the Biden administration misusing the FBI and DOJ to block Trump's candidacy, Biden probably would have faced DeSantis in November's election.

Quote from: DKG on January 21, 2024, 03:18:54 PMIf it wasn't for the Biden administration misusing the FBI and DOJ to block Trump's candidacy, Biden probably would have faced DeSantis in November's election.

Its a simple FACT! that democRATs and RINO's fueled Trumps candidacy via persecution. In fact, my wife and I were watching news this morning and some dipshit mused about Trump being in court is taking away from his ability to run a campaign. I yelled out "THAT IS THE FUKIN CAMPAIGN, FUKIN RETARD!!"

Trump in court and Trump commenting on the witch hunt in court have been 100% of his campaign. That dough dick judge that wouldnt suspend the Carroll defamation trial 1 FUKIN DAY was a campaign win for Trump! Like someone said, if the judge's mom in law died, you think he wouldnt shut court down a day so he could attend the fukin funeral? I swear, democRATs are running a psyop to get Trump back in the WH!

Trump is on a higher plane of existence fo really realz!

Quote from: DKG on January 21, 2024, 03:18:54 PMIf it wasn't for the Biden administration misusing the FBI and DOJ to block Trump's candidacy, Biden probably would have faced DeSantis in November's election.

No

Trump was always and still is the GOP frontrunner DKG. He was always the one for them.

So it looks increasingly like it'll be another Biden Trump rematch. Whomever wins 2024 will be an ugly violent year. And people on both sides will probably die needlessly during the campaign.  2024 & 2025 will be violent years in America

The aftermath of the election will be ugly too

Quote from: DKG on January 21, 2024, 03:18:54 PMIf it wasn't for the Biden administration misusing the FBI and DOJ to block Trump's candidacy, Biden probably would have faced DeSantis in November's election.

There is no doubt that Biden's bullying helped give Trump a boost. I remember before the indictments DeSantis and Trump were neck and neck.

I wanted old DeSantis to win. I have never seen any politician as successful as he is at advancing anti prog protection measures.

AApproximately 70% of New Hampshire primary voters who supported former United States Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley (R) were not registered Republicans, according to a Tuesday CNN exit poll.

If this prediction holds up Americans will stop the invasion at the Southern border.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-i-DToPr80

Florida, Iowa, and Texas are slam dunks for Trump.

Quote from: Lokmar on January 28, 2024, 09:28:40 PMFlorida, Iowa, and Texas are slam dunks for Trump.

But Trump needs to win back some rust belt states. If he can win Pennsylvania he should be president again. If he wins Michigan, he's laughing.

Snoop Dogg endorsed Trump for president.

The New York Post recently reported that there is indeed a plan afoot for Michelle to take over for Biden in the 2024 presidential race.

The article went on to say that "there is a plan to have Biden announce in May that he is not running and have the former first lady take the nomination without a primary vote during the Democratic National Convention in August."

Allegedly, this has been the plan for quite some time.

According to an article written by New York columnist Cindy Adams, "In the summer of 2022, Michelle held a meeting in New York City with major hedge fund CEOs and told them, 'I am running, and I am asking for your support."'

Quote from: Thiel on January 29, 2024, 07:51:32 PMThe New York Post recently reported that there is indeed a plan afoot for Michelle to take over for Biden in the 2024 presidential race.

The article went on to say that "there is a plan to have Biden announce in May that he is not running and have the former first lady take the nomination without a primary vote during the Democratic National Convention in August."

Allegedly, this has been the plan for quite some time.

According to an article written by New York columnist Cindy Adams, "In the summer of 2022, Michelle held a meeting in New York City with major hedge fund CEOs and told them, 'I am running, and I am asking for your support."'

Something will happen if Biden's approval numbers stay so low and Trump contunues leading in battleground states.

Wow, that fukin angry ape would be a bigger disaster than biden!

Quote from: DKG on January 30, 2024, 07:31:02 AMSomething will happen if Biden's approval numbers stay so low and Trump contunues leading in battleground states.

Watching the US Dem Party morph into the United Russia Party is funny as fuck.

Quote from: Shen Li on January 30, 2024, 02:15:40 PMWatching the US Dem Party morph into the United Russia Party is funny as fuck.

Sweet Jeebus! As you can imagine, its like living in a dark comedy from my point of view!

Former President Donald Trump will stay on the primary election ballot in Massachusetts after a judge on the state's Supreme Judicial Court denied a bid to disqualify the candidate on Monday.

Quote from: DKG on January 31, 2024, 07:22:10 AMFormer President Donald Trump will stay on the primary election ballot in Massachusetts after a judge on the state's Supreme Judicial Court denied a bid to disqualify the candidate on Monday.

The election board in Springfield just ruled Trump AND biden stay on the balot!  :crampe:

What a fukin clown world things become right before the SHTF!

Quote from: Lokmar on January 31, 2024, 07:30:23 AMThe election board in Springfield just ruled Trump AND biden stay on the balot!  :crampe:

What a fukin clown world things become right before the SHTF!

Massachusetts ruled Trump stays on the ballot too. Trump will appear on the ballot in all fifty states.

Quote from: DKG on January 31, 2024, 07:46:05 AMMassachusetts ruled Trump stays on the ballot too. Trump will appear on the ballot in all fifty states.

Its retarded that the SCOTUS didnt get involved in this by now. They should have put this all to rest IMMEDIATELY! Their inaction has only irritated the situation.

i know i'm probably wasting my time trying to tell yall this but here i go anyway.... this isn't about trump.... trump is in the same little club as the rest of them.... nothing is gonna happen to him.... he won't be "thrown in prison forever".... and if hes elected, hes not gonna "change the world".... they're using trump to normalize "political persecution".... they have all the safeguards in place now.... and if a "third party" candidate should ever threaten their stranglehold on humanity, they will find themselves the recipient of an even more tenacious and highly successful "trump treatment".... you're now officially "locked in".... the 2024 "election" (if there even is one) will be a fuckin horrorshow.... and afterward, expect the insanity to reach a fever pitch.... this is unfixable.... the lunatics are running the asylum now.... good luck, woodchucks....

Quote from: deadskinmask on January 31, 2024, 09:30:45 AMi know i'm probably wasting my time trying to tell yall this but here i go anyway.... this isn't about trump.... trump is in the same little club as the rest of them.... nothing is gonna happen to him.... he won't be "thrown in prison forever".... and if hes elected, hes not gonna "change the world".... they're using trump to normalize "political persecution".... they have all the safeguards in place now.... and if a "third party" candidate should ever threaten their stranglehold on humanity, they will find themselves the recipient of an even more tenacious and highly successful "trump treatment".... you're now officially "locked in".... the 2024 "election" (if there even is one) will be a fuckin horrorshow.... and afterward, expect the insanity to reach a fever pitch.... this is unfixable.... the lunatics are running the asylum now.... good luck, woodchucks....

As I keep saying, some kind of world event that facilitates civil war and secession would be best for people who are sick of the bullshit.

It's not about Trump, its about anyone fighting the power of the swamp.

Quote from: Lokmar on January 31, 2024, 09:57:20 AMAs I keep saying, some kind of world event that facilitates civil war and secession would be best for people who are sick of the bullshit.

It's not about Trump, its about anyone fighting the power of the swamp.

thats an absolute fact.... unfortunately we're too "civilized" to deal with this in the proper way.... liberals and any "left-leaning" cancer needs to be wiped off the face of the earth.... and it needs to be so brutal and so decisive that ppl get chills even thinking about it.... there needs to be three political parties - Make America Great, Make America Even Greater and/or Make America Great As Fuck.... and anything less goes in ground....

I fear the 2nd coming of Trump.

And yet it is also the Democrat's fault.

They should have dropped Biden like...yesterday and began a replacement process for him last year midway in 2023.

It was a foolish mistake to allow Biden to make that choice.

A young unknown like Minnesota congressman Dean Phillips would have been a better choice than Biden.

It is increasingly looking like curtains for the Democrats.

Even the pro Democrat New York Times recently wrote an article that the consensus in Davos/Europe is a Trump victory in 2024.

Watching you guys get excited over North America's no choice politics makes me  :crampe:

Quote from: JOE on January 31, 2024, 02:24:09 PMI fear the 2nd coming of Trump.

And yet it is also the Democrat's fault.

They should have dropped Biden like...yesterday and began a replacement process for him last year midway in 2023.

It was a foolish mistake to allow Biden to make that choice.

A young unknown like Minnesota congressman Dean Phillips would have been a better choice than Biden.

It is increasingly looking like curtains for the Democrats.

Even the pro Democrat New York Times recently wrote an article that the consensus in Davos/Europe is a Trump victory in 2024.

Senile Joe, quit repeating yourself, you forgetful old man!!!

Quote from: TheProwler on January 31, 2024, 05:46:47 PMSenile Joe, quit repeating yourself, you forgetful old man!!!

Yep, the same trolling shit over and over. No imagination, no creativity and no laughs for anybody.

Trump leads Biden in ALL SEVEN key swing states but could lose almost HALF of voters if he is found guilty of a crime, new poll shows

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/trump-leads-biden-in-all-seven-key-swing-states-but-could-lose-almost-half-of-voters-if-he-is-found-guilty-of-a-crime-new-poll-shows/ar-BB1hA13h?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=d8280e070ea94072be7b03cabfdb323c&ei=10
Former President Donald Trump leads his successor Joe Biden by six points in a head-to-head poll done entirely in the most important swing states.

The catch, however, is that Trump could lose almost half of those considering voting for him if he's convicted of a crime.
 
Trump leads Biden in each individual state, while an average of the seven comes out to Trump leading by a 48-42 score

The survey, done by Bloomberg and Morning Consult, polled residents in seven key states: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

Trump leads Biden in each individual state, while an average of the seven comes out to Trump leading by a 48-42 score.

When including independents like Robert F. Kennedy Jr, Jill Stein and Cornel West, the same people pick Trump over Biden by a score of 44 to 35, with Kennedy at nine per cent.

Biden comes closest to topping Trump in Pennsylvania and Arizona, where he's only down by three points, according to Bloomberg.

The news isn't entirely good for Trump, however, as many voters remain concerned about his legal troubles.

The same survey found that 53 percent of swing state voters would be unwilling to vote for Trump if he were found guilty, while 55 percent would refuse to vote for him if he went to prison.

About 23 percent of registered Republicans in the seven states surveyed say they'd drop their vote for Trump if convicted.

Quote from: Lokmar on January 31, 2024, 08:53:48 AMIts retarded that the SCOTUS didnt get involved in this by now. They should have put this all to rest IMMEDIATELY! Their inaction has only irritated the situation.

Do you know when they are supposed to rule on this? I hope it is soon.

The latest Bloomberg News/Morning Consult survey, released on Wednesday, found that Trump is leading Biden in seven battleground states — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin — that are critical to winning a presidential election.

Here are the results of the poll:

Arizona — Trump: 47%, Biden: 44%
Georgia — Trump: 49%, Biden: 41%
Michigan — Trump: 47%, Biden: 42%
Nevada — Trump: 48%, Biden: 40%
North Carolina — Trump: 49%, Biden: 39%
Pennsylvania — Trump: 48%, Biden: 45%
Wisconsin — Trump: 49%, Biden: 44%

The poll is yet another warning sign for Democrats that Biden is a vulnerable candidate whose re-election is very much in doubt. Especially concerning for Biden is the fact that he won six of these seven states in the 2020 presidential election, losing only North Carolina.

Quote from: Herman on January 31, 2024, 10:41:39 PMTrump leads Biden in ALL SEVEN key swing states but could lose almost HALF of voters if he is found guilty of a crime, new poll shows

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/trump-leads-biden-in-all-seven-key-swing-states-but-could-lose-almost-half-of-voters-if-he-is-found-guilty-of-a-crime-new-poll-shows/ar-BB1hA13h?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=d8280e070ea94072be7b03cabfdb323c&ei=10
Former President Donald Trump leads his successor Joe Biden by six points in a head-to-head poll done entirely in the most important swing states.

The catch, however, is that Trump could lose almost half of those considering voting for him if he's convicted of a crime.
 
Trump leads Biden in each individual state, while an average of the seven comes out to Trump leading by a 48-42 score

The survey, done by Bloomberg and Morning Consult, polled residents in seven key states: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

Trump leads Biden in each individual state, while an average of the seven comes out to Trump leading by a 48-42 score.

When including independents like Robert F. Kennedy Jr, Jill Stein and Cornel West, the same people pick Trump over Biden by a score of 44 to 35, with Kennedy at nine per cent.

Biden comes closest to topping Trump in Pennsylvania and Arizona, where he's only down by three points, according to Bloomberg.

The news isn't entirely good for Trump, however, as many voters remain concerned about his legal troubles.

The same survey found that 53 percent of swing state voters would be unwilling to vote for Trump if he were found guilty, while 55 percent would refuse to vote for him if he went to prison.

About 23 percent of registered Republicans in the seven states surveyed say they'd drop their vote for Trump if convicted.

I believe 100% of NOTHING out of MESS-NBC.

Quote from: Lokmar on February 01, 2024, 07:01:15 PMI believe 100% of NOTHING out of MESS-NBC.

It looks like the same poll numbers from Bloomberg.

Quote from: DKG on February 01, 2024, 07:26:57 AMThe latest Bloomberg News/Morning Consult survey, released on Wednesday, found that Trump is leading Biden in seven battleground states — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin — that are critical to winning a presidential election.

Here are the results of the poll:

Arizona — Trump: 47%, Biden: 44%
Georgia — Trump: 49%, Biden: 41%
Michigan — Trump: 47%, Biden: 42%
Nevada — Trump: 48%, Biden: 40%
North Carolina — Trump: 49%, Biden: 39%
Pennsylvania — Trump: 48%, Biden: 45%
Wisconsin — Trump: 49%, Biden: 44%

The poll is yet another warning sign for Democrats that Biden is a vulnerable candidate whose re-election is very much in doubt. Especially concerning for Biden is the fact that he won six of these seven states in the 2020 presidential election, losing only North Carolina.

The Democrats should get rid of Biden, DKG.
However, it doesn't appear that they will.
They're just like lemmings running offa the cliff.

The current Democrat leadership remind me of this song

Democrats going into the 2024 election with Biden as their leader:

Oh well, it won't be the first time in history this sorta thing has happened:


The Dems just don't wanna listen to warnings that their current leader is NFG.

Quote from: Brent on February 01, 2024, 07:09:48 PMIt looks like the same poll numbers from Bloomberg.

Doomberg is right up there with MESS-NBC!

Quote from: Lokmar on February 01, 2024, 11:10:49 PMDoomberg is right up there with MESS-NBC!

This is the guy I think the Democrats should run, Lokmeer:


He may not be perfect, but would do better than Biden.
He's like 30 years younger than Biden?
And what he warns the Democrats about is spot on.

He's even from the Midwest next to those crucial states like Wisconsin and Michigan. Plus he could probably win Pennsylvania for them - another state where the Democrats currently lag.

At least the guy admits there are problems with the Biden Agenda that need to be fixed.

Biden seems brain dead & can't even answer the questions.

Quote from: JOE on February 02, 2024, 12:52:23 AMBiden seems brain dead & can't even answer the questions.

Senile Joe, can you answer questions?

Quote from: TheProwler on February 02, 2024, 02:35:47 AMSenile Joe, can you answer questions?

He doesn't read post or answer questions. He just posts the same troll points ad nauseum.

Quote from: DKG on February 02, 2024, 07:23:15 AMHe doesn't read post or answer questions. He just posts the same troll points ad nauseum.

Well what do you want me to say?

You seem to get even more agitated when I agree with you DKG.

Biden is NFG. 82 year old man who can't even remember his lines or speak into a mic.

The Democrats in the states scurrying around like chickens with their heads cut off wondering why the hell the average American voter doesn't connect with Biden.

Maybe the Democratic Party leadership wants him to lose?
so they can install somebody they like such as NY governor Kathy Hochul?

She seems like the leader they want. Some backstabbing woke feminist.

biden is "too old"??? lmmfao.... biden has never been in charge.... biden is just a frontman.... its not his "dementia" thats on display.... its your disastrous liberal policies that is causing this bullshit....

Quote from: DKG on February 02, 2024, 07:23:15 AMHe doesn't read post or answer questions. He just posts the same troll points ad nauseum.

I think our old Senile Joe has several serious and severe learning disabilities.

It is probably why he has found life to be so difficult.

Quote from: deadskinmask on February 02, 2024, 10:59:08 AMbiden is "too old"??? lmmfao.... biden has never been in charge.... biden is just a frontman.... its not his "dementia" thats on display.... its your disastrous liberal policies that is causing this bullshit....

He is the poster boy for the rot in the American capital.

Quote from: Lokmar on February 01, 2024, 11:10:49 PMDoomberg is right up there with MESS-NBC!

But their poll showed Trump in the lead in the states that will decide who wins.

Quote from: Brent on February 02, 2024, 07:20:30 PMBut their poll showed Trump in the lead in the states that will decide who wins.

The late, great, Rush Limbaugh constantly derided it on his show. I never give that rag the time of day. I'm sure they're right when it serves them.

Quote from: DKG on February 02, 2024, 07:23:15 AMHe doesn't read post or answer questions. He just posts the same troll points ad nauseum.

Actually DKG, my posts criticizing Biden upset Democrats & Trump haters who don't wanna face the hard truth.

I noticed that after I posted about Biden's shortcomings, that Seamajor, who's a hardcore American Democrat and y'all seem to hate, took offence to my analysis in another forum.

Even tho many of ya have described Biden as 'potatohead', there's a solid core of Democrats who'll back Biden .... no matter what.

and the pragmatists who think he should be replaced get shut out.

Unfortunately, Sad but true.

BTW, I don't think the poll numbers you posted are a lie.

The Democrats under Biden are in trouble.

If they're not ahead of Trump at this stage of the game, it doesn't bode well for them. That's why Biden should be replaced.

If I met Senile Joe in real life I would punch him in the throat.

Quote from: TheProwler on February 03, 2024, 06:28:19 AMIf I met Senile Joe in real life I would punch him in the throat.

I don't think he talks to anybody in real life. That his why he tells his tall tales exclusively to people on anonymous message boards.

Quote from: Shen Li on February 02, 2024, 04:09:30 PMHe is the poster boy for the rot in the American capital.

i think the whole damn lot of em need to go.... democrat and conservative both.... its painfully clear that neither side has any interest whatsoever in the welfare of our country....

Dems doomed themselves in 2024 when they refused to allow a free and open primary.

Quote from: Oerdin on February 03, 2024, 02:24:10 PMDems doomed themselves in 2024 when they refused to allow a free and open primary.

You notice they only allowed a couple of bums in the ring with him. They were scared AF about RFK!

Quote from: DKG on February 03, 2024, 09:30:47 AMI don't think he talks to anybody in real life. That his why he tells his tall tales exclusively to people on anonymous message boards.

Excuse me, but why do you think my last entry was a 'Shit post', DKG?

Can you elaborate upon your reaction and the reasons for it?

I'm just stating what major Democratic donors have said .

ie, read this:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4333789-bill-ackman-says-biden-2024/

Billionaire megadonor Bill Ackman says Biden should step aside

Billionaire investor Bill Ackman says President Biden should step aside, adding he was "impressed" by Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.), who launched a long-shot primary challenge to Biden last month.

"I think Biden's done a lot of good things. But I think his legacy will not [be] a good one if he is the nominee," Ackman said in an interview with Bloomberg Television's "The David Rubenstein Show: Peer-to-Peer Conversations." "I do think the right thing for Biden to do is step aside, and to say he's not going to run, and create the opportunity for some competition."

Ackman, the founder of Pershing Square Capital Management, told Bloomberg Television he recently met with Phillips and was "impressed" by the Democratic lawmaker.

"You need to be at your intellectual best. And I don't think Biden is there," Ackman said. "I don't say that, you know, with any derision of the president. But I think he's clearly past his physical and cognitive peak."

...guy just stated the obvious.

Like Hello, the Emperor has no clothes!"

(https://goldsurvivalguide.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/The-Emperor-has-no-clothes-2.png)

Hey Joe, that is a shit post. :s_laugh:

Nikki Haley, the last remaining rival to frontrunner Donald Trump for the Republican presidential nomination, is set to win Nevada's primary on Tuesday, but it will be a hollow victory as Trump will secure all of the state's delegates in a separate contest on Thursday.

For Republican voters in Nevada, Tuesday's state-run Republican ballot only has former U.N. ambassador Haley as a major candidate. She is therefore all but guaranteed to win, but it's largely meaningless.

That's because only candidates participating in a separate Republican caucus on Thursday can compete for the state's 26 delegates to the Republican National Convention in July when the party formally nominates its candidate.
The rival caucus is being run by the Trump-friendly state party, and only Trump is on that ballot, almost certainly guaranteeing him victory on Thursday and all the state's delegates.

Voters can participate in both the Republican primary on Tuesday and the Republican caucus on Thursday.

Nikki Haley won 30.8% of the vote. "None of these candidates" secured over twice as many votes, receiving 62.9%. :crampe:

What is Nikki Haley still doing in the race.

Quote from: Brent on February 07, 2024, 06:33:06 PMNikki Haley won 30.8% of the vote. "None of these candidates" secured over twice as many votes, receiving 62.9%. :crampe:

What is Nikki Haley still doing in the race.

The comments:
"She literally lost to "None of the above" BWAAAHAHAHAHA! PWN3D!

Donald Trump, as expected, cruised to victory in the Nevada GOP Caucus on Feb. 8, putting him one step closer to winning his party's nomination.

The former president faced no significant opposition in the contest. His sole remaining major challenger, former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, opted to instead compete in a Nevada primary two days earlier that didn't award any delegates. Ms. Haley suffered an embarrassing setback when voters overwhelmingly chose "None of These Candidates" over her in the Feb. 6 contest.

Trump is now poised to sweep up all the state's 26 delegates. He also is entitled to at least four delegates in the U.S. Virgin Islands caucus, held the same day as Nevada. In the Virgin Island, he won 74 percent of the votes and Ms. Haley scored about 26 percent.

Quote from: DKG on February 09, 2024, 07:43:11 AMDonald Trump, as expected, cruised to victory in the Nevada GOP Caucus on Feb. 8, putting him one step closer to winning his party's nomination.

The former president faced no significant opposition in the contest. His sole remaining major challenger, former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, opted to instead compete in a Nevada primary two days earlier that didn't award any delegates. Ms. Haley suffered an embarrassing setback when voters overwhelmingly chose "None of These Candidates" over her in the Feb. 6 contest.

Trump is now poised to sweep up all the state's 26 delegates. He also is entitled to at least four delegates in the U.S. Virgin Islands caucus, held the same day as Nevada. In the Virgin Island, he won 74 percent of the votes and Ms. Haley scored about 26 percent.

Adding insult to injury, while Nikki lost 30% to nearly 70%, Trump won 99.1% to .8%!!!!! EPIC!!!!

Quote from: Lokmar on February 09, 2024, 10:14:31 AMAdding insult to injury, while Nikki lost 30% to nearly 70%, Trump won 99.1% to .8%!!!!! EPIC!!!!

As long as wealthy Democrats keep donating to her campaign, she will stay in the race.

Quote from: DKG on February 10, 2024, 10:29:44 AMAs long as wealthy Democrats keep donating to her campaign, she will stay in the race.

I kinda want her to only for the fact that she is destroying her political career and every win where Trump blows her out of the water legitimizes Trump all the more.

Quote from: Lokmar on February 10, 2024, 02:42:44 PMI kinda want her to only for the fact that she is destroying her political career and every win where Trump blows her out of the water legitimizes Trump all the more.

She could still get a cabinet position if Trump wins.

Quote from: DKG on February 11, 2024, 09:53:46 AMShe could still get a cabinet position if Trump wins.

Did you bump your head? Trump might make her UN Ambassador again at most! Maybe ambassador to Somalia!  :crampe:

The most reliable Democrat voters are African-American women. They have not moved away from Biden like some African-American men have.

Quote from: Thiel on February 11, 2024, 08:45:35 PMThe most reliable Democrat voters are African-American women. They have not moved away from Biden like some African-American men have.

Black mommas love their keyuds even if they know they're mass murderers.

Quote from: Lokmar on February 11, 2024, 01:48:31 PMDid you bump your head? Trump might make her UN Ambassador again at most! Maybe ambassador to Somalia!  :crampe:

I would not rule out a cabinet posting.

Quote from: DKG on February 12, 2024, 07:21:35 AMI would not rule out a cabinet posting.

Not a chance in hell. No way. No how. NEVER EVER!!!!

https://youtu.be/WA4iX5D9Z64

Quote from: Lokmar on February 11, 2024, 11:38:45 PMBlack mommas love their keyuds even if they know they're mass murderers.

White women vote Democrat by a wider margin than White men.

Quote from: Thiel on February 12, 2024, 08:39:14 PMWhite women vote Democrat by a wider margin than White men.

Yea, and they also bang more black men!  :crampe:

Quote from: Lokmar on February 12, 2024, 06:20:30 PMNot a chance in hell. No way. No how. NEVER EVER!!!!

https://youtu.be/WA4iX5D9Z64

It doesn't really matter, but okay.

With zero wins so far and a potential home state drubbing on the horizon, Republican presidential primary candidate Nikki Haley has declared that she plans to continue running in the 2024 Republican presidential primary.

According to polling, the former South Carolina governor is poised to lose the Palmetto State's GOP presidential primary by a significant margin.

As long as democRAT money keeps rolling in, she aint aint going anywhere.

Quote from: Herman on February 20, 2024, 10:03:34 PMWith zero wins so far and a potential home state drubbing on the horizon, Republican presidential primary candidate Nikki Haley has declared that she plans to continue running in the 2024 Republican presidential primary.

According to polling, the former South Carolina governor is poised to lose the Palmetto State's GOP presidential primary by a significant margin.

As long as democRAT money keeps rolling in, she aint aint going anywhere.

The dumb ass bitch thinks Trump's gonna get thrown in the slammer and she'll ride in at the last minute. Even IF that happened, I sure AF wont vote for her!

Quote from: Lokmar on February 20, 2024, 11:21:34 PMThe dumb ass bitch thinks Trump's gonna get thrown in the slammer and she'll ride in at the last minute. Even IF that happened, I sure AF wont vote for her!

I don't know if she believes that, but her donors are hoping for that.

Quote from: Lokmar on February 20, 2024, 11:21:34 PMThe dumb ass bitch thinks Trump's gonna get thrown in the slammer and she'll ride in at the last minute. Even IF that happened, I sure AF wont vote for her!

I would not vote for either if the choices were a democRAT or a traditional Republican. They are two sides of the same coin.

Quote from: Lokmar on February 20, 2024, 11:21:34 PMThe dumb ass bitch thinks Trump's gonna get thrown in the slammer and she'll ride in at the last minute. Even IF that happened, I sure AF wont vote for her!

I think that'd be hilarious if Trump had ta serve as President behind bars, Lokmeer!

Can you imagine that - yer Prez gotta wear an ankle bracelet or sit in the Oval Office behind bars...reporting to his probation officer.

  :s_laugh:

Too funny ta contemplate, Bud!

Quote from: JOE on February 22, 2024, 12:56:19 AMreporting to his probation officer.

Something you know about, right "Stay Away From The Children" Joe?

Quote from: Herman on February 21, 2024, 09:31:56 PMI would not vote for either if the choices were a democRAT or a traditional Republican. They are two sides of the same coin.

Which is why rich Dem donors are supporting her. They want to cover their bases even though it means no real choice for voters.

Quote from: DKG on February 22, 2024, 05:29:44 AMWhich is why rich Dem donors are supporting her. They want to cover their bases even though it means no real choice for voters.

Trump (nor Biden) isn't much of a choice for the American voter.

And I kinda think the reason why the Democrats hang on to a potatohead like Biden is certain factions within their party want him to lose so they can install their own type of leader and shift the party further to the Left.

they don't feel threatend by a Potatohead who's going senile.
And that's what progs want. Somebody who's harmless and doesn't pose a threat to their woke of ultrafeminist agenda. Let's them do what they want.

Can't have a moderate centrist like Andrew Cuomo or that upstart Dean Phillips. No...that moderate small 'l' liberalism have just too much common sense for these fringe groups.

Joe keeps saying the same shit over and over again.

Trump is a real choice because he aint part of the establishment like Jim Crow Joe and Haley are. Those two shills are owned by their billionaire prog paymasters. Trump can work for blue collar folks where those other two cannot.

Quote from: Lokmar on February 12, 2024, 06:20:30 PMNot a chance in hell. No way. No how. NEVER EVER!!!!

https://youtu.be/WA4iX5D9Z64

So ya like Taylor Swift eh Lokmeer?

Quote from: JOE on February 22, 2024, 10:16:58 PMSo ya like Taylor Swift eh Lokmeer?

Sure, dipshit. THAT was my message.

If this doesn't effect the election then the country is beyond saving.

https://youtu.be/1wIYznsb2So?si=oVM_zt92OzrtVQPs

Trump notched another decisive win in the Republican presidential primary, defeating former governor Nikki Haley in her home state of South Carolina.

Quote from: Oerdin on February 25, 2024, 04:24:54 AMIf this doesn't effect the election then the country is beyond saving.

https://youtu.be/1wIYznsb2So?si=oVM_zt92OzrtVQPs

That is outrageous.

Quote from: Oerdin on February 25, 2024, 04:24:54 AMIf this doesn't effect the election then the country is beyond saving.

https://youtu.be/1wIYznsb2So?si=oVM_zt92OzrtVQPs

For years, I spent gobs on buying "weapons of war" and ammunition. Sometimes, $25K/yr. Now, I've switched to metals for use when the SHTF. Its coming! If my family didnt have farm land, I'd be stockpiling non perishable grains, beans, and corn.

Quote from: Lokmar on February 25, 2024, 12:25:53 PMFor years, I spent gobs on buying "weapons of war" and ammunition. Sometimes, $25K/yr. Now, I've switched to metals for use when the SHTF. Its coming! If my family didnt have farm land, I'd be stockpiling non perishable grains, beans, and corn.

I would rather be dead than survive on beans and corn.

Quote from: Brent on February 25, 2024, 02:30:03 PMI would rather be dead than survive on beans and corn.

Thankfully, we have cattle. We could have pigs if we wanted but I'm not a big fan on raising pigs.

Quote from: Lokmar on February 25, 2024, 12:25:53 PMFor years, I spent gobs on buying "weapons of war" and ammunition. Sometimes, $25K/yr. Now, I've switched to metals for use when the SHTF. Its coming! If my family didnt have farm land, I'd be stockpiling non perishable grains, beans, and corn.

Say I'll trade ya one of my gold sovereigns for an acre of yer farm Lokmeer.

I could use a stash of corn n beans during the winter months.

Quote from: JOE on February 25, 2024, 04:07:47 PMSay I'll trade ya one of my gold sovereigns for an acre of yer farm Lokmeer.

I could use a stash of corn n beans during the winter months.

I think Lokmar will trade one of his bullets for ALL your gold, you senile dumb cunt.

Quote from: JOE on February 25, 2024, 04:07:47 PMSay I'll trade ya one of my gold sovereigns for an acre of yer farm Lokmeer.

I could use a stash of corn n beans during the winter months.

How about I bury you on it, keep ALL your doubloons, and plant an acorn up your ass?  :popcorn:

Quote from: Oerdin on February 25, 2024, 04:24:54 AMIf this doesn't effect the election then the country is beyond saving.

https://youtu.be/1wIYznsb2So?si=oVM_zt92OzrtVQPs

Canadians really got themselves in a hole. We cannot get ourselvees out with a one time change of government.

Canada, like most of blue America, needs to reform its restrictive zoning laws and building approval process so more homes can actually get built in a timely manner.

Quote from: Oerdin on February 25, 2024, 10:55:27 PMCanada, like most of blue America, needs to reform its restrictive zoning laws and building approval process so more homes can actually get built in a timely manner.

Even if we did do that there would still not be enough housing for the 1.5 million immigrants we are accepting annually on True Dope's watch.

Quote from: Lokmar on February 25, 2024, 08:05:32 PMHow about I bury you on it, keep ALL your doubloons, and plant an acorn up your ass?  :popcorn:

On 2nd thought my gold is worth to me than your farm Lokmeer. And if the SHTF like you forecast, gold will become priceless. Heck by then I'll be able ta buy yer farm for a pittance. 1 oz of gold for yer farm?

....seems like a fair exchange ta me!

Here's what would happen to the value of yer land if the SHTF, Lokmeer:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gold/comments/tvx8my/a_single_ounce_of_gold_can_now_buy_a_house_in/

Ounce of gold can buy ya a house in Venezuela, eh?

Quote from: Shen Li on February 25, 2024, 11:23:17 PMEven if we did do that there would still not be enough housing for the 1.5 million immigrants we are accepting annually on True Dope's watch.

That is called an immigration trap.  I posted a video about that earlier.

Quote from: JOE on February 26, 2024, 06:02:33 AMAnd if the SHTF like you forecast, gold will become priceless.

No it won't. Gold will become worthless. Gold is nothing but a shiny rock and survival is all anyone will care about. If you're starving and have something to barter who are you going to trade with, the guy with a gold coin or the guy with a hundred pound sack of rice?

Quote from: Oliver the Second on February 26, 2024, 09:52:29 AMNo it won't. Gold will become worthless. Gold is nothing but a shiny rock and survival is all anyone will care about. If you're starving and have something to barter who are you going to trade with, the guy with a gold coin or the guy with a hundred pound sack of rice?

Sack of rice.

Some of you are expecting some very dark clouds on the horizon.

Quote from: DKG on February 26, 2024, 11:12:24 AMSack of rice.

Some of you are expecting some very dark clouds on the horizon.

Perhaps.

But having a bit of diversity still helps.

Even the Big Guns have said a person should own some precious metals....DKG.


I know Ron Paul is big on Gold.

Quote from: JOE on February 26, 2024, 06:02:33 AMOn 2nd thought my gold is worth to me than your farm Lokmeer. And if the SHTF like you forecast, gold will become priceless. Heck by then I'll be able ta buy yer farm for a pittance. 1 oz of gold for yer farm?

....seems like a fair exchange ta me!

Doubtful. You'll get blasted into pieces and all your shit stolen. I mean, WTF can you do to stop it during a SHTF situation? Its not like you'd have a way to protect yourself!

Quote from: JOE on February 26, 2024, 06:10:33 AMHere's what would happen to the value of yer land if the SHTF, Lokmeer:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gold/comments/tvx8my/a_single_ounce_of_gold_can_now_buy_a_house_in/

Ounce of gold can buy ya a house in Venezuela, eh?

Thats not the same as a working farm that produces food, dipshit and thats not the same as a piece of property protected by weapons of war.

You work real hard at being a complete dipshit, josephine!

Quote from: Oliver the Second on February 26, 2024, 09:52:29 AMNo it won't. Gold will become worthless. Gold is nothing but a shiny rock and survival is all anyone will care about. If you're starving and have something to barter who are you going to trade with, the guy with a gold coin or the guy with a hundred pound sack of rice?

Dumb ass josephine thinks he'll be some kind of robber barron when the SHTF. Gold and Silver will be bartering tools after the initial mass die off (josephine will be among the corpses) but having a means to protect ones self along with a food store will be most important. I sure know I'm not selling a fucking thing until I know I have enough to ride out the storm FIRST!

After the mass die off, someone (hopefully me) will stroll into his dwelling, load up all his collector coins, and shit on his corpse!

Quote from: Lokmar on February 26, 2024, 01:00:26 PMDumb ass josephine thinks he'll be some kind of robber barron when the SHTF. Gold and Silver will be bartering tools after the initial mass die off (josephine will be among the corpses) but having a means to protect ones self along with a food store will be most important. I sure know I'm not selling a fucking thing until I know I have enough to ride out the storm FIRST!

After the mass die off, someone (hopefully me) will stroll into his dwelling, load up all his collector coins, and shit on his corpse!

He will still be broke when all hell breaks loose.

The billionaire Koch family's libertarian policy advocacy group "Americans for Prosperity Action" has said that it is pulling back its financial backing of GOP presidential candidate Nikki Haley.

I hate the Koch family.

Quote from: Brent on February 26, 2024, 01:16:39 PMThe billionaire Koch family's libertarian policy advocacy group "Americans for Prosperity Action" has said that it is pulling back its financial backing of GOP presidential candidate Nikki Haley.

I hate the Koch family.

LOL! BTW, I didnt hear libtards calling her a Koch Whore!!!  :crampe:

Quote from: Lokmar on February 26, 2024, 01:00:26 PMAfter the mass die off, someone (hopefully me) will stroll into his dwelling, load up all his collector coins, and shit on his corpse!

...No Way!

You'll be looted alive...Lokmeer!

Jes' like the Romans when the Barbarians came for them!

Took all their shit, their wives, their food, their farms!

Apparently, the only thing was left of the Roman Empire when it fall was all da gold in they buried in the ground...eh Lokmeer!?


When the Barbarians come for ya & the SHTF, yer done like dinner, Bud!

Quote from: JOE on February 26, 2024, 06:02:33 AMOn 2nd thought my gold is worth to me than your farm Lokmeer. And if the SHTF like you forecast, gold will become priceless. Heck by then I'll be able ta buy yer farm for a pittance. 1 oz of gold for yer farm?

....seems like a fair exchange ta me!

Think about this....

The only way Senile Joe has any chance of happiness...


Is if the SHTF.


For most people, it would be devastating to their lives and their happiness.


For Senile Joe, it would be a step up.

Quote from: JOE on February 26, 2024, 06:10:33 AMHere's what would happen to the value of yer land if the SHTF, Lokmeer:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gold/comments/tvx8my/a_single_ounce_of_gold_can_now_buy_a_house_in/

Ounce of gold can buy ya a house in Venezuela, eh?

So can $2000 cash, you dumb cunt.

Quote from: JOE on February 26, 2024, 11:56:32 AMPerhaps.

But having a bit of diversity still helps.

Even the Big Guns have said a person should own some precious metals....DKG.

I know Ron Paul is big on Gold.

"Gold diversifies against other assets."

When you own stock of a company, you own a piece of all their assets.

The land.

The buildings.

The vehicles.

The machinery.

The IP.

The infrastructure.

The fuckin' staplers.



By owning the stock of one company you have a diversity of assets.

Quote from: TheProwler on February 26, 2024, 03:48:55 PM"Gold diversifies against other assets."

When you own stock of a company, you own a piece of all their assets.

The land.

The buildings.

The vehicles.

The machinery.

The IP.

The infrastructure.

The fuckin' staplers.



By owning the stock of one company you have a diversity of assets.

...but I never suggested that anyone put 100% of their cash in gold.

Just like that guy Ray Dalio (and Warren Buffet too) said, just a portion - such as 10% or so.

Watch the video stupid.

Gold is a HEDGE.

Quote from: JOE on February 26, 2024, 04:13:16 PM...but I never suggested that anyone put 100% of their cash in gold.

Just like that guy Ray Dalio (and Warren Buffet too) said, just a portion - such as 10% or so.

Watch the video stupid.

Gold is a HEDGE.

Collector coins arent a hedge, nitwit!

Quote from: JOE on February 26, 2024, 04:13:16 PM...but I never suggested that anyone put 100% of their cash in gold.

I never suggested or implied that you suggested that.

You might want to learn to read and process what other people are saying if you are going to frequent message boards, you imbecile.

You nitwit.

You drooling idiot.

You dumb cunt!!!!

Trump made little or no mention of Nikki Haley, his former United Nations ambassador, in at least three high-profile recent speeches—a strategy that would be smart to maintain at this stage of the game.

democRATs hatch plan to block Trump victory if he wins 2024.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/house-democrats-plan-trump-certify-election-win?utm_source=theblaze-dailyPM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__PM%202024-02-26&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20PM&tpcc=email
Some Democrats are purportedly conspiring to block Donald Trump from the White House if the Supreme Court doesn't rule him constitutionally ineligible, according to a new report.

On Friday, the Atlantic published an article explaining "how Democrats could disqualify Trump if the Supreme Court doesn't." The plan? If the Supreme Court doesn't give "clear guidance" (i.e., the outcome Democrats want), according to the Atlantic, then "House Democrats suggest that they might not certify a Trump win on January 6."

You read that correctly. Some Democrats might do exactly what they claim Trump tried to do: block the certification of a presidential election.

The super PAC backing Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s independent presidential bid recently revealed this week that it has gathered enough signatures in Arizona and Georgia to get its man on the ballot.

Although great news for Kennedy, the prospect of more competition in critical swing states has prompted Biden boosters in the liberal media to fret, CNN commentator Van Jones in particular.

There are some indications Kennedy's success may hurt Biden and help Trump.

A recent Emerson College Polling/The Hill survey has Trump leading Biden 46-43 in a head-to-head matchup. However, the same survey revealed that in a five-way matchup where Kennedy was in the mix along with Cornel West and Jill Stein, Kennedy grabbed eight points and the other two leftists each picked up one point, leaving Trump with a 43-37 lead over Biden.

 A small but substantial chunk of Republican primary and caucus voters say they would be so dissatisfied if Donald Trump became the party's presidential nominee that they would not vote for him in November's general election, according to AP VoteCast.

An analysis of the data shows that many of those voters were unlikely to vote for Trump, some even before this year, but it still points to potential problems for the former president as he looks to consolidate the nomination and pivot toward an expected rematch with Democratic President Joe Biden.

According to AP VoteCast surveys of the first three head-to-head Republican contests, 2 in 10 Iowa voters, one-third of New Hampshire voters, and one-quarter of South Carolina voters would be so disappointed by Trump's renomination that they would refuse to vote for him in the fall.

This unwillingness to contemplate a presidential vote for Trump isn't confined to voters in the earliest states.

Nikki Haley on Sunday declined to say she would support Donald Trump in the coming presidential election if he won the Republican party's nomination.

Quote from: DKG on March 03, 2024, 10:03:14 AMNikki Haley on Sunday declined to say she would support Donald Trump in the coming presidential election if he won the Republican party's nomination.

Of course not. Her rich progtard donors control what she says.

Quote from: Herman on February 26, 2024, 08:34:31 PMdemocRATs hatch plan to block Trump victory if he wins 2024.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/house-democrats-plan-trump-certify-election-win?utm_source=theblaze-dailyPM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__PM%202024-02-26&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20PM&tpcc=email
Some Democrats are purportedly conspiring to block Donald Trump from the White House if the Supreme Court doesn't rule him constitutionally ineligible, according to a new report.

On Friday, the Atlantic published an article explaining "how Democrats could disqualify Trump if the Supreme Court doesn't." The plan? If the Supreme Court doesn't give "clear guidance" (i.e., the outcome Democrats want), according to the Atlantic, then "House Democrats suggest that they might not certify a Trump win on January 6."

You read that correctly. Some Democrats might do exactly what they claim Trump tried to do: block the certification of a presidential election.

Sounds like just cause to burn rape loot and murder all democRATs and the people that voted for them!!!

Quote from: DKG on March 03, 2024, 09:50:43 AMA small but substantial chunk of Republican primary and caucus voters say they would be so dissatisfied if Donald Trump became the party's presidential nominee that they would not vote for him in November's general election, according to AP VoteCast.

An analysis of the data shows that many of those voters were unlikely to vote for Trump, some even before this year, but it still points to potential problems for the former president as he looks to consolidate the nomination and pivot toward an expected rematch with Democratic President Joe Biden.

According to AP VoteCast surveys of the first three head-to-head Republican contests, 2 in 10 Iowa voters, one-third of New Hampshire voters, and one-quarter of South Carolina voters would be so disappointed by Trump's renomination that they would refuse to vote for him in the fall.

This unwillingness to contemplate a presidential vote for Trump isn't confined to voters in the earliest states.

I support people voting for whomever they want 100%. If they dont want Trump, dont vote for him. IDGAF.

Quote from: Lokmar on March 03, 2024, 12:51:22 PMI support people voting for whomever they want 100%. If they dont want Trump, dont vote for him. IDGAF.

I would not vote for most Republicans or any Democrats.

Quote from: Brent on March 03, 2024, 12:54:29 PMI would not vote for most Republicans or any Democrats.

I get it. I myself voted for H. Ross Perot in 1992 AND 1996. I also voted Constitution Party several times. I even voted for the Green Party one year in Illinois because I wanted to fuck the democRATs. The Green Party wound up getting enough votes that year to qualify for gubmints cheese. I only voted for Bush 2 the first time.

Quote from: Brent on March 03, 2024, 12:54:29 PMI would not vote for most Republicans or any Democrats.

I frickin hated John McCain. I don't like Mitt Romney, anybody with the name Bush, and McConnell either. They aint no different from democRATs and they aint no friends of working folks.

Quote from: Herman on March 03, 2024, 07:21:53 PMI frickin hated John McCain. I don't like Mitt Romney, anybody with the name Bush, and McConnell either. They aint no different from democRATs and they aint no friends of working folks.

I actually voted for Romney.

Quote from: Lokmar on March 03, 2024, 08:35:32 PMI actually voted for Romney.

You swine.

Quote from: Herman on March 03, 2024, 08:36:49 PMYou swine.

LOL!

I hated the nigger more.

Sorry, I meant to say I hated President nigger more.

Quote from: Lokmar on March 03, 2024, 08:37:56 PMLOL!

I hated the nigger more.

Aint that frickin depressing. That is how us Canadians who aint branwashed sellout prog money shills vote. We hold our noses and vote Conservative because they aint as lethal for working votes as Justine and Jagmeet.

Quote from: Herman on March 03, 2024, 08:46:41 PMAint that frickin depressing. That is how us Canadians who aint branwashed sellout prog money shills vote. We hold our noses and vote Conservative because they aint as lethal for working votes as Justine and Jagmeet.

President Nigger was a threat to the stability of this nation. We all, including me, gave him a chance and we got fucked. Race relations are far, far, FAR worse off BECAUSE of him.

I'll never forget that fucking pig, Candi Crowley, straight up joining in a lie during the debates while Romney was befuddled that she actually stooped so low! If we have a civil war and Candy Crowley is wandering the streets, she should be lit on fire!

Quote from: Herman on March 03, 2024, 08:46:41 PMAint that frickin depressing. That is how us Canadians who aint branwashed sellout prog money shills vote. We hold our noses and vote Conservative because they aint as lethal for working votes as Justine and Jagmeet.

Jagmeet Singh & the NDP are dragging the Liberals & the country down with their overspending & out of control immigration policies.

As much as you may think Trudeau is far left, I think it's because his government made too many compromises to the NDP to stay in power. and of course the NDP doesn't care because they arent' officially the government. so they can make all these demands, tell Trudeau what to do.

Jagmeet Singh is like what Rasputin was to the Czar in pre revolutionary Russia.

He controls and intoxicates them with promises of continued power.

"Make a deal with me & I'll keep you there."

So maybe it isn't so bad if the Liberals get the boot because it would get rid of the NDP and the unhealthy grip/influence they have over Trudeau and the Liberal government.

Quote from: JOE on March 03, 2024, 11:41:36 PMJagmeet Singh & the NDP are dragging the Liberals & the country down with their overspending & out of control immigration policies.

As much as you may think Trudeau is far left, I think it's because his government made too many compromises to the NDP to stay in power. and of course the NDP doesn't care because they arent' officially the government. so they can make all these demands, tell Trudeau what to do.

Jagmeet Singh is like what Rasputin was to the Czar in pre revolutionary Russia.

He controls and intoxicates them with promises of continued power.

"Make a deal with me & I'll keep you there."

So maybe it isn't so bad if the Liberals get the boot because it would get rid of the NDP and the unhealthy grip/influence they have over Trudeau and the Liberal government.

Too bad you dumbasses dont have your own Trump, josephine!

Quote from: Lokmar on March 04, 2024, 01:05:42 AMToo bad you dumbasses dont have your own Trump, josephine!

Your St Trump is an American politician who claims he has American solutions for your country, the US, not Canada.

As a Canadian I have no influence over the way Americans vote and therefore cannot impact who you choose there.

I was never fond of Trump, but for all his character faults, missteps and legal troubles, I never felt he was nowhere near as bad as his Republican predecessor, George W Bush...Lokmeer! And altho Bush hated Canada, Trump did not. In some ways I didn't mind Trump that much. He may have gone after Mexico but other than that Chinese deo criminal case, he did kid gloves on Canada and left us alone.

Christ, even hardcore Republicans complained to me about W Bush when he was in power and how he trashed your country. They were madder at Bush than liberal Democrats were. Many of them were the most vocal haters of Bush. And to this day a Bush can't ever get nominated by your party and elected every again.

If there's one individual who I blame for America's current woes, it's Dubya.

Bill Clinton was your best post-war President imho.
he had your country working so well, that it was a turnkey system that Dubya fucked up royally and screwed your country and much of the world. all W had to do was just let that system which Clinton left in pristine condition work by itself.

Even that Putin whom you despise so much was inspired to by Dubya to attack Ukraine because of W's unwarranted pre-emptive strike on Iraq.

US Supreme Court rules for Trump in historic 14th Amendment ballot eligibility case

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The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday ruled in favor of Donald Trump in a historic case challenging his ability to seek the Republican presidential nomination under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment due to his actions around the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

The court was unanimous in reversing the unprecedented decision out of Colorado that would kick Trump off the ballot under the provision after a state trial court found he participated in "insurrection" on Jan. 6 through incitement.

"For the reasons given, responsibility for enforcing Section 3 against federal officeholders and candidates rests with Congress and not the States," the Supreme Court opinion read. "The judgment of the Colorado Supreme Court therefore cannot stand. All nine Members of the Court agree with that result."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-supreme-court-rules-trump-historic-14th-amendment/story?id=107158454

Quote from: JOE on March 04, 2024, 01:20:58 AMYour St Trump is an American politician who claims he has American solutions for your country, the US, not Canada.

As a Canadian I have no influence over the way Americans vote and therefore cannot impact who you choose there.

I was never fond of Trump, but for all his character faults, missteps and legal troubles, I never felt he was nowhere near as bad as his Republican predecessor, George W Bush...Lokmeer! And altho Bush hated Canada, Trump did not. In some ways I didn't mind Trump that much. He may have gone after Mexico but other than that Chinese deo criminal case, he did kid gloves on Canada and left us alone.

Christ, even hardcore Republicans complained to me about W Bush when he was in power and how he trashed your country. They were madder at Bush than liberal Democrats were. Many of them were the most vocal haters of Bush. And to this day a Bush can't ever get nominated by your party and elected every again.

If there's one individual who I blame for America's current woes, it's Dubya.

Bill Clinton was your best post-war President imho.
he had your country working so well, that it was a turnkey system that Dubya fucked up royally and screwed your country and much of the world. all W had to do was just let that system which Clinton left in pristine condition work by itself.

Even that Putin whom you despise so much was inspired to by Dubya to attack Ukraine because of W's unwarranted pre-emptive strike on Iraq.

Anyway, too bad you dont have your own Trump, josephine.

Quote from: Lokmar on March 04, 2024, 10:39:32 AMAnyway, too bad you dont have your own Trump, josephine.

...and I don't want that kind of leader in Canada.

A small 'c' conservative is fine, but I don't want an Extremist or someone whom at least 1/2 the population finds totally unacceptable.

Seems in America they don't make moderate conseratives anymore.

Lately I've been seeing all these YouTube videos praising the legacy of the disgraced President Richard Nixon.


Actually, in spite of his faults, one thing I admire about Nixon is that he wasn't an Extremist. And the Roe v Wade decision which many of ya'll had gotten ta hate so much & had torn down was ruled durng the Nixon Administration and by USSC justices that he appointed.

Quote from: JOE on March 04, 2024, 01:27:26 PM...and I don't want that kind of leader in Canada.

A small 'c' conservative is fine, but I don't want an Extremist or someone whom at least 1/2 the population finds totally unacceptable.

Seems in America they don't make moderate conseratives anymore.

Lately I've been seeing all these YouTube videos praising the legacy of the disgraced President Richard Nixon.

Actually, in spite of his faults, one thing I admire about Nixon is that he wasn't an Extremist. And the Roe v Wade decision which many of ya'll had gotten ta hate so much & had torn down was ruled durng the Nixon Administration and by USSC justices that he appointed.

Well josephine, you're a sniveling dipshit. Trump would be great for Cucknadia. As far as Nixon being disgraced, we all know now that JFK ACTUALLY weaponized the IRS on his enemies and so did President Nigger. Nixon did not.

he newest New York Times/Sienna College poll shows President Joe Biden is down bad — and the Biden campaign is having a difficult time coping with that reality.

Released on Saturday, the poll shows:

Donald Trump leads Biden: The former president commands a respectable 5-point lead over Biden — 48% to 43% — with just eight months until Election Day
Country going the wrong way: The overwhelming majority of registered voters — 65% to 24% — believe the country is headed in the wrong direction
Biden approval: The majority of respondents — 61% — disapprove of Biden's job as president, including 47% who "strongly disapprove"; only 36% who approve
Favorability: More registered voters have a favorable opinion of Trump than Biden, 43% to 38%
Biden too old: A majority, 73%, of respondents said Biden is too old to be president, compared to just 42% who said the same of Trump
What can you do for me: Fewer than 20% of registered voters believe Biden's policies have helped them, whereas 40% said Trump's personally helped them
Economy is bad: A majority of respondents, 51%, described the economy as "poor," while another 23% described it as "only fair"

Quote from: Lokmar on March 04, 2024, 10:39:32 AMAnyway, too bad you dont have your own Trump, josephine.

We don't have a left or right political sprectrum. You don't either. We both have prog money, the ir stooges and the working class who opposes them.

Quote from: Brent on March 04, 2024, 06:56:23 PMhe newest New York Times/Sienna College poll shows President Joe Biden is down bad — and the Biden campaign is having a difficult time coping with that reality.

Released on Saturday, the poll shows:

Donald Trump leads Biden: The former president commands a respectable 5-point lead over Biden — 48% to 43% — with just eight months until Election Day
Country going the wrong way: The overwhelming majority of registered voters — 65% to 24% — believe the country is headed in the wrong direction
Biden approval: The majority of respondents — 61% — disapprove of Biden's job as president, including 47% who "strongly disapprove"; only 36% who approve
Favorability: More registered voters have a favorable opinion of Trump than Biden, 43% to 38%
Biden too old: A majority, 73%, of respondents said Biden is too old to be president, compared to just 42% who said the same of Trump
What can you do for me: Fewer than 20% of registered voters believe Biden's policies have helped them, whereas 40% said Trump's personally helped them
Economy is bad: A majority of respondents, 51%, described the economy as "poor," while another 23% described it as "only fair"

And this a NYT poll too.

Quote from: DKG on March 05, 2024, 06:37:26 AMAnd this a NYT poll too.

I think the NYT wants Biden ta go, DKG.

They keep publishing articles which suggest that he ought a be given the heave ho.

Kyrsten Sinema to leave Senate

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PHOENIX - Independent Arizona Senator Kyrsten Sinema has announced her decision to not run for re-election.

The Senator, who left the Democratic Party in 2022, issued a statement and an accompanying video message.

"Through listening, understanding, and compromise we delivered tangible results that make America safer, stronger, and more prosperous," Sen. Sinema said, in the video. "Yet, despite modernizing our infrastructure, ensuring clean water, delivering good jobs and safer communities, Americans still choose to retreat farther to their partisan corners."

Sen. Sinema also said she will be leaving the U.S. Senate 'at the end of this year,' but did not otherwise give a specific date.

"It has been an honor to serve Arizona for the past 20 years," Sen. Sinema said, in the video.

Sinema's announcement comes after Senate Republicans blocked a bipartisan bill to help secure the U.S.-Mexico border and deliver military aid to Ukraine and Israel, which Sinema spent months negotiating. She'd hoped it would be a signature achievement addressing one of Washington's most intractable challenges, as well as a powerful endorsement for her increasingly lonely view that cross-party dealmaking remains possible.

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/2024-election-independent-ariz-sen-kyrsten-sinema-to-leave-senate

Joe Manchin is not running again either I think. They were considered moderate Democrats.

House Democrats plan to try and pass legislation that will keep Trump off the ballot. Scum
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1764703589916627041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1764703589916627041%7Ctwgr%5Ee383c5ad427c460a4df54e6912a771bc8820131a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Fdemocrats-plan-block-trump-ballot

Trump said during a campaign event that there will be mass deportations of illegals starting on day one.  :wee_hee:

Quote from: Brent on March 05, 2024, 07:03:42 PMHouse Democrats plan to try and pass legislation that will keep Trump off the ballot. Scum
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1764703589916627041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1764703589916627041%7Ctwgr%5Ee383c5ad427c460a4df54e6912a771bc8820131a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Fdemocrats-plan-block-trump-ballot

Too bad cancer didnt kill Raskin.

Nikki Haley won the primary in Vermont and got a large proportion of the vote in the states of Virginia, Massachusetts, North Carolina and Maine.

The next primary votes and caucuses take place on Friday, when Republicans will go to the polls in American Samoa. Then, next Tuesday, Republicans will vote in Washington, Georgia, Hawaii and Mississippi.

According to polling aggregator FiveThirtyEight, overall, Trump is expected to get 77.5 percent of the GOP primary vote share, while Haley, his one remaining challenger is polling at 15.7 percent.

Quote from: DKG on March 06, 2024, 06:28:21 AMNikki Haley won the primary in Vermont and got a large proportion of the vote in the states of Virginia, Massachusetts, North Carolina and Maine.

The next primary votes and caucuses take place on Friday, when Republicans will go to the polls in American Samoa. Then, next Tuesday, Republicans will vote in Washington, Georgia, Hawaii and Mississippi.

According to polling aggregator FiveThirtyEight, overall, Trump is expected to get 77.5 percent of the GOP primary vote share, while Haley, his one remaining challenger is polling at 15.7 percent.

Didnt make a difference, she's dropped out.

She got beat by the last remaining "fella". I wonder if Trump mushroom stamped it on her way out? LMFAO!

Quote from: Lokmar on March 06, 2024, 08:35:02 AMDidnt make a difference, she's dropped out.

She got beat by the last remaining "fella". I wonder if Trump mushroom stamped it on her way out? LMFAO!

She lost 14 out of 15 primaries. The last time a woman got swamped this bad she was driving home from a party with senator Ted Kennedy.

When the moderates leave or are all gone all hell is gonna break loose in yer country Ollie.

Quote from: Lokmar on March 06, 2024, 08:35:02 AMDidnt make a difference, she's dropped out.

She got beat by the last remaining "fella". I wonder if Trump mushroom stamped it on her way out? LMFAO!

Darker times a comin to the USA...Lokmeer!

Think I'll buy some more gold platinum and silver eh?

I could buy yer farm from ya when the SHTF Lokmeer.

Quote from: JOE on March 06, 2024, 11:48:07 AMWhen the moderates leave or are all gone all hell is gonna break loose in yer country Ollie.

What moderates? You mean sane. Trump is sane. Biden is an extremist. In Canada, they are all extremist mass immigration loving scum buckets.

Quote from: JOE on March 06, 2024, 11:48:07 AMWhen the moderates leave or are all gone all hell is gonna break loose in yer country Ollie.

STFU, you retarded crybaby. Trump is MAGA!!!!

Quote from: JOE on March 06, 2024, 11:50:00 AMDarker times a comin to the USA...Lokmeer!

Think I'll buy some more gold platinum and silver eh?

I could buy yer farm from ya when the SHTF Lokmeer.

With what, josephine? Some collector coins?

Here is how your purchase will go, BTW:

https://youtu.be/6S3YqUbpSRg?t=23

Quote from: Lokmar on March 06, 2024, 09:15:37 PMSTFU, you retarded crybaby. Trump is MAGA!!!!

Old Joe knows Trump makes Trudeau look like Robert Mugabe.

Quote from: Lokmar on March 06, 2024, 09:15:37 PMSTFU, you retarded crybaby. Trump is MAGA!!!!

...I don't git too emotionally involved in US politics anymo'....Lokmeer!

That way when others are sad, I'm still smilin'.

And if Trump wins, tharz sure gonna be a lotta long faces on the Left, eh?

I don't think they know what's comin' or is gonna hit them.

2016 was bad enough. 2024 will be pandemonium I supsect.

Blood in the Streeets if Trump wins, eh?

Quote from: JOE on March 06, 2024, 10:17:30 PM...I don't git too emotionally involved in US politics anymo'....Lokmeer!

That way when others are sad, I'm still smilin'.

And if Trump wins, tharz sure gonna be a lotta long faces on the Left, eh?

I don't think they know what's comin' or is gonna hit them.

2016 was bad enough. 2024 will be pandemonium I supsect.

You are the one that gets emotional about American politics. And there aint no left or right in North America.

Quote from: Herman on March 06, 2024, 10:20:01 PMAnd there aint no left or right in North America.

In some respects I agree with you Herman.

Both parties have their billionaire donors or their own corporate elites supporting them.

They don't do that much for the working or middle clases of America.

However I think the 4 major issues which separate them are LGBT rights, Abortion, gun control and Immigration.

Like you, I support abortion because I figger if they're gonna introduce all these labor saving technologies like AI and provide fewer jobs for the next generation and no future fer many, abortion should be allowed.

They can't have a birther society if there isn't gonna be a future for them. That's downright cruel imho.

That's the issue I don't agree with Trump & the Republicans at all because it oppresses the working class and makes them poorer.

Quote from: JOE on March 06, 2024, 10:17:30 PM...I don't git too emotionally involved in US politics anymo'....Lokmeer!

That way when others are sad, I'm still smilin'.

And if Trump wins, tharz sure gonna be a lotta long faces on the Left, eh?

I don't think they know what's comin' or is gonna hit them.

2016 was bad enough. 2024 will be pandemonium I supsect.

Blood in the Streeets if Trump wins, eh?

I dunno, josephine. You libtards FA/FO I guess.

Quote from: JOE on March 06, 2024, 11:07:13 PMIn some respects I agree with you Herman.

Both parties have their billionaire donors or their own corporate elites supporting them.

They don't do that much for the working or middle clases of America.

However I think the 4 major issues which separate them are LGBT rights, Abortion, gun control and Immigration.

Like you, I support abortion because I figger if they're gonna introduce all these labor saving technologies like AI and provide fewer jobs for the next generation and no future fer many, abortion should be allowed.

They can't have a birther society if there isn't gonna be a future for them. That's downright cruel imho.

That's the issue I don't agree with Trump & the Republicans at all because it oppresses the working class and makes them poorer.

Trump doesnt have billionaire donors, josephine. Get a clue!

Nikki Haley was a Koch Whore tho!

Quote from: Lokmar on March 06, 2024, 08:35:02 AMDidnt make a difference, she's dropped out.

She got beat by the last remaining "fella". I wonder if Trump mushroom stamped it on her way out? LMFAO!

That's good she dropped out. Now Trump can work on unifying the party.

Quote from: Lokmar on March 06, 2024, 11:48:47 PMTrump doesnt have billionaire donors, josephine. Get a clue!

Nikki Haley was a Koch Whore tho!

I like Nikki Haley Lokmeer

Quote from: Lokmar on March 06, 2024, 11:48:47 PMTrump doesnt have billionaire donors, josephine. Get a clue!

Nikki Haley was a Koch Whore tho!

Andrew Mellon donated $33 million to Trump.

And don't forget the religious right.

Trump has got his share of big donors Lokmeer

Quote from: JOE on March 07, 2024, 08:35:17 AMI like Nikki Haley Lokmeer

Of course you do, josephine. You're an ambiguously gay beta male.

Quote from: JOE on March 07, 2024, 08:37:20 AMAndrew Mellon donated $33 million to Trump.

And don't forget the religious right.

Trump has got his share of big donors Lokmeer

I've donated to Trump too. Sometimes $500 at a time. Trump aint a RINO Koch whore tho. There's a difference, josephine.

Quote from: JOE on March 07, 2024, 08:35:17 AMI like Nikki Haley Lokmeer

So what?

You also like peeing on yourself, you dumb cunt.

Stick to what you know best, Senile Joe:  The stock market.

Hahahaha!!!

Tulsi Gabbard, a former Democrat congresswoman who is now considered a possible Republican vice-presidential pick.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has selected a running mate and that candidate will be introduced on March 26 in Oakland, California.

The New York Times reported that New York Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers and former Minnesota governor and professional wrestler Jesse Ventura are among the potential running mates.

The Biden team must have been afraid too many younger constituents would hold their noses and vote for #GenocideJoe in November so to send them running away again they decided to ban TikTok.

It's the only explanation that makes any sense.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on March 14, 2024, 12:36:40 PMThe Biden team must have been afraid too many younger constituents would hold their noses and vote for #GenocideJoe in November so to send them running away again they decided to ban TikTok.

It's the only explanation that makes any sense.

Its a dystopian world for sure. I keep trying to figure out crazy shit even though I've never been able to.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on March 14, 2024, 12:36:40 PMThe Biden team must have been afraid too many younger constituents would hold their noses and vote for #GenocideJoe in November so to send them running away again they decided to ban TikTok.

It's the only explanation that makes any sense.

I heard most young kids on TikTok are pro-Palestinian which Israel doesn't like and Israel is the one pressuring Biden to shut it down.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on March 14, 2024, 06:34:49 PMI heard most young kids on TikTok are pro-Palestinian which Israel doesn't like and Israel is the one pressuring Biden to shut it down.

Most young people are leftists, and leftists are anti Israel.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on March 14, 2024, 06:34:49 PMI heard most young kids on TikTok are pro-Palestinian which Israel doesn't like and Israel is the one pressuring Biden to shut it down.

I'm sure they're adding their voices to the mix but primarily it's just the only huge social media platform that isn't already under the direct supervision/control of the 'Murican security state apparatus.

The USA and its NATO allies have plans to provoke a war with China sooner rather than later so even more important than public sentiment about a genocide most already dislike anyway they need to block or control information coming directly from China in order to wage the narrative part of that war.

They did the same thing when they forced RT-America off of providers like DirecTV and platforms like YouTube. That was to prevent anyone in 'Murica from hearing the Russian side of the Ukraine story and is also why they freaked the fuck out when Tucker Carlson went and talked to Vladdy without their approval.

Control freaks gonna try to control freak.

Quote from: Thiel on March 14, 2024, 07:11:34 PMMost young people are leftists, and leftists are anti Israel.

In my experience they're anti-zionist, not anti Israel as such and not anti Jewish.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on March 14, 2024, 12:36:40 PMThe Biden team must have been afraid too many younger constituents would hold their noses and vote for #GenocideJoe in November so to send them running away again they decided to ban TikTok.

It's the only explanation that makes any sense.

Aint it screwed up. That would be the modern version of prohibition.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on March 14, 2024, 08:54:11 PMIn my experience they're anti-zionist, not anti Israel as such and not anti Jewish.

What is zionism? It is Israeli nationalism/patriotism no?

Quote from: Thiel on March 15, 2024, 03:09:12 PMWhat is zionism? It is Israeli nationalism/patriotism no?

At its core, Zionism is the goal for a jewish state for jewish people.

Every race should have their own space, especially and including white people. There shouldnt be hoards of non whites in europe. America is a melting pot and one of several exceptions. China should be for chanks. The dutch should GTFO of S. Africa and more importantly, EUROPEAN countries should welcome those whites back, even if it means exchanging blacks in Europe 1:1. I personally believe muhzies dont belong on the planet but they sure AF should be excluded from EVERY western country EVEN IF THEY ARE WHITE MUHZIES!!!!

Nothing I say matters though so get ready for a world wide holocaust. I buy guns, ammo, non perishables, etc.

Quote from: Lokmar on March 15, 2024, 03:53:22 PMAt its core, Zionism is the goal for a jewish state for jewish people.

Every race should have their own space, especially and including white people. There shouldnt be hoards of non whites in europe. America is a melting pot and one of several exceptions. China should be for chanks. The dutch should GTFO of S. Africa and more importantly, EUROPEAN countries should welcome those whites back, even if it means exchanging blacks in Europe 1:1. I personally believe muhzies dont belong on the planet but they sure AF should be excluded from EVERY western country EVEN IF THEY ARE WHITE MUHZIES!!!!

Nothing I say matters though so get ready for a world wide holocaust. I buy guns, ammo, non perishables, etc.

Zionism is another word for nationalism, but used exclusively for Israel.

Quote from: Thiel on March 15, 2024, 03:09:12 PMWhat is zionism? It is Israeli nationalism/patriotism no?

It's a political philosophy founded in violent supremacist ideology. It is foundationally a settler/colonial enterprise that espouses jewish supremacy over all other peoples and holds particular hatred for any non-jews within what they envision as "greater Israel", which encompasses not just the present-day borders of Israel and the occupied territories but swathes of neighboring nations as well.

The apartheid is baked in.
The genocidal intent is baked in.
The ethno-supremacism is baked in.

It's a poisonous ideology and the world will be better off without it.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on March 15, 2024, 04:22:27 PMIt's a political philosophy founded in violent supremacist ideology. It is foundationally a settler/colonial enterprise that espouses jewish supremacy over all other peoples and holds particular hatred for any non-jews within what they envision as "greater Israel", which encompasses not just the present-day borders of Israel and the occupied territories but swathes of neighboring nations as well.

The apartheid is baked in.
The genocidal intent is baked in.
The ethno-supremacism is baked in.

It's a poisonous ideology and the world will be better off without it.

I would argue that Zionism at least in the religious sense ended in 1948 with the founding of the Jewish state. Land disputes between Israel and the Palestinian territories are similar to those between Russia and Ukraine or China and India.

Israeli nationalism does not appear any different to nationalism anywhere around the world. At least the kind with land disputes involved. Oh there is one difference, there is a large elected opposition to nationalism in Israel.

Them jews have 2 choices:
1. Allow palitrashians to establish their own nation again from which they will launch a like attack in 20 or less years.
2. Exterminate palitrashians and allow their smouldering ruins be a warning to other muhzie filth what they'll get when they fuk with the jews.

FYI, the One and Only God seethes with rage and hate at any peoples that try to eject His Chosen from their land.

Quote from: Thiel on March 16, 2024, 08:55:45 PMI would argue that Zionism at least in the religious sense ended in 1948 with the founding of the Jewish state. Land disputes between Israel and the Palestinian territories are similar to those between Russia and Ukraine or China and India.

Ukraine and Russia are two completely separate countries.
China and India are two completely separate countries.

In each case they both have their own sovereignty and their own army, navy, air force, etc.

The Palestinians in Gaza and the west bank have no sovereignty demonstrated by Israel's ability to restrict their movement, the fact that Israel can and does deny them electricity and water and food and medicine. Palestinians are a population living within what Israel consider its borders who do not have the same rights as other Israelis or any rights at all if the IOF or a settler mob decides to harrass, displace, or even kill them.

That's got nothing to do with judaism. Obviously it doesn't or there wouldn't be so many jewish people standing with the Palestinians against apartheid and genocide.

It's zionism and zionism merely perverts judaism to use as a shield the same way supremacist and theocratic groups in 'Murica hide behind christianity.

Speaking of christians there are probably more christian zionists in 'Murica than there are jews in Israel. That's because zionism isn't about religion... it's a violent settler-colonial supremacist political ideology.

Our government is damn sure chock full of both jewish and christian zionists, including Biden himself.

139 states recognize the sovereignty of Palestine. They have observer status at the UN.

Taiwan has an armed forces, but can't even get observer status at the WHO.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on March 15, 2024, 04:22:27 PMIt's a political philosophy founded in violent supremacist ideology. It is foundationally a settler/colonial enterprise that espouses jewish supremacy over all other peoples and holds particular hatred for any non-jews within what they envision as "greater Israel", which encompasses not just the present-day borders of Israel and the occupied territories but swathes of neighboring nations as well.

The apartheid is baked in.
The genocidal intent is baked in.
The ethno-supremacism is baked in.

It's a poisonous ideology and the world will be better off without it.

Some strong opinions here. I will be honest with you, foreign affairs is not my specialty. I am more comfortable discussing the economy, taxation, regulations etc.

We used to have a poster here, CC, she liked these topics too. I will defer to others to offer a rebuttal.

Biden's job approval rating is more than 15 points underwater, in a dangerous territory where one-term presidents reside. A significant majority of Americans believe the country is headed in the wrong direction, and they not only do not believe Biden that will turn it around, but they believe he is the reason it's headed in the wrong direction in the first place.

Quote from: Thiel on March 18, 2024, 07:17:21 PMBiden's job approval rating is more than 15 points underwater, in a dangerous territory where one-term presidents reside. A significant majority of Americans believe the country is headed in the wrong direction, and they not only do not believe Biden that will turn it around, but they believe he is the reason it's headed in the wrong direction in the first place.

He's fucked. If he were to win, it would only be via a SECOND cheated election.

Quote from: Lokmar on March 18, 2024, 07:21:50 PMHe's fucked. If he were to win, it would only be via a SECOND cheated election.

And then there are the third party candidates. RFK Jr seems to be hurting Biden more than Trump.

Michigan is now a toss up state. It's getting interesting.

QuoteInside Elections is changing Michigan (and its 15 Electoral College votes) from Tilt Democratic to Toss-Up. With that change, the GOP nominee is favored to win 235 Electoral College votes compared to 232 for the Democratic nominee, leaving both short of the 270 needed to win. That leaves five states and 71 Electoral College votes in Toss-up, including Arizona (11), Georgia (16), Michigan (15), Pennsylvania (19) and Wisconsin (10).

https://rollcall.com/2024/03/12/rating-change-presidential-race-looks-even-between-biden-trump/

The biggest issue in both the US and Canada is uncontrolled mass immigration. I can think of eight million reasons not to vote for Biden.

Some of the names being floated as a potential running mate for RFK are Aaron Rodgers and Jesse Ventura.

Both Mr Ventura and Rodgers have reacted positively to Mr Kennedy reaching out, according to The New York Times.

We should find out soon who Trump will pick as his running mate. South Dakota governor Kristi Noem and senator Tim Scott are rumored the top two contenders.


Trump and Biden's vp picks are very important. Biden will almost certainly not finish another term if he is reelected and Trump will only serve one term if he wins.

And this one for the money rich leftists are donating to Biden.

A lot can change between now and November, but as it stands right now, Trump would be in a good position to win the electoral college and the presidency.

QuoteTrump leads Biden in four key battleground states, polls find

Donald Trump is on course to beat Joe Biden in four key battleground states, new polls show.

In Georgia, the former president leads by four points, with 51 per cent to his successor's 47 per cent among registered voters, according to a Marist poll released on Wednesday.

Mr Biden won the state by just 0.23 per cent in 2020, becoming the first Democratic presidential candidate to win the state since Bill Clinton in 1992.

In North Carolina, a Marist poll also published on Wednesday shows Mr Trump leading Mr Biden by three points – 51 to 48 per cent.

Among independents registered to vote in the state, Mr Trump has a six-point lead – 52 to 46 per cent. While Mr Biden has increased his support among white voters in the state, he has lost ground with Black voters, similar to Georgia. Mr Trump has also gained among younger voters in North Carolina.

Meanwhile, Emerson College, KLAS-TV, and The Hill found in their Nevada poll also released on Wednesday that Mr Trump is up 44 to 41 per cent in the state.  "Nevada Hispanic voters support Biden over Trump, 44 per cent to 39 per cent, while white voters break for Trump over Biden, 50 per cent to 39 per cent."

Sixty-one per cent of voters said Mr Biden doesn't deserve to be re-elected, while 39 per cent said he does.

In Arizona, a state narrowly won by Mr Biden in 2020, Mr Trump is up by four points – 48 to 44 per cent, according to a separate poll by Emerson College and The Hill. Eight per cent remain undecided.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-leads-biden-in-four-key-battleground-states-polls-find/ar-BB1keWDf

Pollster Frank Luntz warned New York Attorney General Letitia James that she is "going to elect Donald Trump" if she goes through with seizing the former president's properties.

He could be right. I can't see it hurting him among any demographic besides the chattering class.

Biden is the least popular democRAT candidate ever among Spics.


https://www.theblaze.com/news/enten-hispanic-voters-shift-trump?utm_source=theblaze-breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20240322Trending-CarolRoth&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Breaking%20News&tpcc=email-breaking
CNN polling data expert Harry Enten is sounding the alarm for Democrats as Hispanic voters increasingly abandon President Joe Biden.

Speaking with CNN anchor Anderson Cooper on Wednesday, Enten broke down some of the latest polling data that should worry Biden and Democrats while putting Republicans and Donald Trump at ease.

"This is one of the trend lines that I think really tells the story," Enten began. "If you ask voters, 'Who do you think would do a better job handling border security and immigration?' What do we see? We see that back in 2020, it was basically a dead-even split, right? Joe Biden was slightly favored, but not overwhelmingly."

"Look at where we are today, in a Marquette University Law School poll that was put out last month, look at that advantage that Donald Trump has on immigration and border security: It's near 30 points," he explained. "This is a tremendous change that's going on and it is no wonder that Donald Trump is running on immigration."

But that "ain't the case" now, he explained, because Hispanic voters trust Trump to handle the border crisis.

"If you ask Hispanic voters who do they trust more on border security and immigration? Overwhelmingly, they trust Donald Trump more by a tremendous margin. Look at that, 49% to 24%," Enten said.

of more than 20 points has now evaporated because of the border crisis.

"If you look at the polling right now, on an average of polling among Hispanic voters, who did they choose in the ballot test? It's barely Biden — by about two points," Enten explained. "It would be the smallest margin for any Democratic candidate among Hispanic voters, basically, throughout history since we started polling the gosh darn thing."

Not only do voters trust Trump to handle the border crisis as immigration becomes the top election issue, but Biden is actually losing ground among all non-white voters.

Democrats' advantage among Hispanic, Asian, and black voters, in fact, is at its lowest point since 1960, according to the Financial Times.

RFK's impending announcement of his running mate is threatening to roil the 2024 presidential race, with allies and observers saying it could give him a cash influx as well as a major boost of momentum as he looks to get on more state ballots.

Kennedy's decision to unveil his vice-presidential pick next Tuesday shows a longevity to his bid that many Democrats hoped would have fizzled out by now. Announcing a running mate means the independent candidate has met a necessary benchmark required by two dozen states to be listed on the ballot, something that will bring even more attention to his campaign.

Team Kennedy's search for a No. 2 has gotten noticed for the unconventional names it produced. While many believe Kennedy is likely to choose Nicole Shanahan, a lawyer and mega-donor, others have been privately mused about, with mixed reactions.

Kennedy has publicly talked up a number of people. He previously said that he was considering NFL star Aaron Rodgers, who shares much of Kennedy's anti-vaccine outlook toward public health.

Rodgers fell into the background, however, after comments he made questioning the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School surfaced, sparking outrage. Known to look beyond the bounds of convention, Kennedy also expressed support for wrestler and former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura and former Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, who each have nontraditional ideologies, as well as tech entrepreneur Andrew Yang.

Quote from: DKG on March 24, 2024, 11:33:33 AMRFK's impending announcement of his running mate is threatening to roil the 2024 presidential race, with allies and observers saying it could give him a cash influx as well as a major boost of momentum as he looks to get on more state ballots.

Kennedy's decision to unveil his vice-presidential pick next Tuesday shows a longevity to his bid that many Democrats hoped would have fizzled out by now. Announcing a running mate means the independent candidate has met a necessary benchmark required by two dozen states to be listed on the ballot, something that will bring even more attention to his campaign.

Team Kennedy's search for a No. 2 has gotten noticed for the unconventional names it produced. While many believe Kennedy is likely to choose Nicole Shanahan, a lawyer and mega-donor, others have been privately mused about, with mixed reactions.

Kennedy has publicly talked up a number of people. He previously said that he was considering NFL star Aaron Rodgers, who shares much of Kennedy's anti-vaccine outlook toward public health.

Rodgers fell into the background, however, after comments he made questioning the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School surfaced, sparking outrage. Known to look beyond the bounds of convention, Kennedy also expressed support for wrestler and former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura and former Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, who each have nontraditional ideologies, as well as tech entrepreneur Andrew Yang.

I hope Kennedy jr selects a leftist like Nicole Shanahan. That will steal votes from Biden.

Quote from: Thiel on March 22, 2024, 01:59:20 PMPollster Frank Luntz warned New York Attorney General Letitia James that she is "going to elect Donald Trump" if she goes through with seizing the former president's properties.

He could be right. I can't see it hurting him among any demographic besides the chattering class.

Have you seen a single instance where these TDS motherfuckers backed off the throttle? They are blinded by their TDS. Its put them into a blind rage that they cant be saved from.

At what point are the actions of a sitting president, using lawfare against his opponent for purposes of election Interference, considered illegal? Joe Biden has long since crossed over that very sacred threshold.

Quote from: Brent on March 24, 2024, 03:34:41 PMAt what point are the actions of a sitting president, using lawfare against his opponent for purposes of election Interference, considered illegal? Joe Biden has long since crossed over that very sacred threshold.

Well, for the democRAT or RINO, apparently there's no point.

Democratic strategist James Carville has been puzzling over why President Joe Biden is hemorrhaging support among voters, black men in particular. The conclusion he drew over the weekend has ruffled some feathers.

In an interview published Saturday in the New York Times, the 79-year-old partisan told opinion columnist Maureen Dowd that when looking at Biden's approval ratings, "It's like walking in on your grandma naked. You can't get the image out of your mind."

According to the latest Gallup poll, Biden's job approval rating is 40% and his disapproval rating is 55%. The Economist/YouGov and Rasmussen Reports polls put the geriatric Democrat's disapproval rating one and two points higher, respectively.

Former President Donald Trump appears to have an edge on Biden in numerous swing states — such as Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan — as well as nationally.

Carville appears to have zeroed in on at least one reason for the drop in support, telling Dowd, "A suspicion of mine is that there are too many preachy females" dominating the culture of the Democratic Party.

"'Don't drink beer. Don't watch football. Don't eat hamburgers. This is not good for you,'" continued Carville. "The message is too feminine: 'Everything you're doing is destroying the planet. You've got to eat your peas.'"

"If you listen to Democratic elites — NPR is my go-to place for that — the whole talk is about how women, and women of color, are going to decide this election," added Carville. "I'm like: 'Well, 48 percent of the people that vote are males. Do you mind if they have some consideration?'"

The strategist suggested that all of the "feminine" browbeating, micromanagement, and alarmism is helping to turn off voters along with the left's elitist "faculty lounge" attitudes and "woke stuff."

"There are a lot of people on the left that would rather lose and be pure because it makes them feel good, it makes them feel superior," said Carville.

Quote from: Lokmar on March 24, 2024, 01:05:50 PMHave you seen a single instance where these TDS motherfuckers backed off the throttle? They are blinded by their TDS. Its put them into a blind rage that they cant be saved from.

He does not mean those crazies. They are a lost cause. He means independents and fence sitters.

Quote from: DKG on March 25, 2024, 11:21:28 AMDemocratic strategist James Carville has been puzzling over why President Joe Biden is hemorrhaging support among voters, black men in particular. The conclusion he drew over the weekend has ruffled some feathers.

In an interview published Saturday in the New York Times, the 79-year-old partisan told opinion columnist Maureen Dowd that when looking at Biden's approval ratings, "It's like walking in on your grandma naked. You can't get the image out of your mind."

According to the latest Gallup poll, Biden's job approval rating is 40% and his disapproval rating is 55%. The Economist/YouGov and Rasmussen Reports polls put the geriatric Democrat's disapproval rating one and two points higher, respectively.

Former President Donald Trump appears to have an edge on Biden in numerous swing states — such as Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan — as well as nationally.

Carville appears to have zeroed in on at least one reason for the drop in support, telling Dowd, "A suspicion of mine is that there are too many preachy females" dominating the culture of the Democratic Party.

"'Don't drink beer. Don't watch football. Don't eat hamburgers. This is not good for you,'" continued Carville. "The message is too feminine: 'Everything you're doing is destroying the planet. You've got to eat your peas.'"

"If you listen to Democratic elites — NPR is my go-to place for that — the whole talk is about how women, and women of color, are going to decide this election," added Carville. "I'm like: 'Well, 48 percent of the people that vote are males. Do you mind if they have some consideration?'"

The strategist suggested that all of the "feminine" browbeating, micromanagement, and alarmism is helping to turn off voters along with the left's elitist "faculty lounge" attitudes and "woke stuff."

"There are a lot of people on the left that would rather lose and be pure because it makes them feel good, it makes them feel superior," said Carville.

Women shouldnt be allowed to vote ITFP. Their emotions bring in nothing but chaos and disorder. Why dont we have a death penalty? Women voting. REPEAL THE 19TH!!!!

Quote from: DKG on March 25, 2024, 11:21:28 AMDemocratic strategist James Carville

That Crypt-Keeper looking sumbitch hasn't been right about anything since at least 2015.

lulz

Quote from: Garraty_47 on March 25, 2024, 09:36:49 PMThat Crypt-Keeper looking sumbitch hasn't been right about anything since at least 2015.

lulz

He was the perfect fit as an apologist for the Clinton administration.

Trump is selling 'God Bless the USA' Bibles for $59.99 as he faces mounting legal bills

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Former President Donald Trump is now selling Bibles as he runs to return to the White House.

Trump, who became the presumptive Republican nominee earlier this month, released a video on his Truth Social platform on Tuesday urging his supporters to buy the "God Bless the USA Bible," which is inspired by country singer Lee Greenwood's patriotic ballad. Trump takes the stage to the song at each of his rallies and has appeared with Greenwood at events.

"Happy Holy Week! Let's Make America Pray Again. As we lead into Good Friday and Easter, I encourage you to get a copy of the God Bless the USA Bible," Trump wrote, directing his supporters to https://godblesstheusabible.com selling the book for $59.99.

Billing itself as "the only Bible endorsed by President Trump!" the new venture's website calls it "Easy-to-read" with "large print" and a "slim design" that "invites you to explore God's Word anywhere, any time."

Besides a King James Version translation, it includes copies of the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence and the Pledge of Allegiance, as well as a handwritten chorus of the famous Greenwood song.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-god-bless-usa-bible-greenwood-2713fda3efdfa297d0f024efb1ca3003

Good Lord. No pun intended.

Quote from: Oliver the Second on March 26, 2024, 09:28:12 PM
Trump is selling 'God Bless the USA' Bibles for $59.99 as he faces mounting legal bills

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Former President Donald Trump is now selling Bibles as he runs to return to the White House.

Trump, who became the presumptive Republican nominee earlier this month, released a video on his Truth Social platform on Tuesday urging his supporters to buy the "God Bless the USA Bible," which is inspired by country singer Lee Greenwood's patriotic ballad. Trump takes the stage to the song at each of his rallies and has appeared with Greenwood at events.

"Happy Holy Week! Let's Make America Pray Again. As we lead into Good Friday and Easter, I encourage you to get a copy of the God Bless the USA Bible," Trump wrote, directing his supporters to https://godblesstheusabible.com selling the book for $59.99.

Billing itself as "the only Bible endorsed by President Trump!" the new venture's website calls it "Easy-to-read" with "large print" and a "slim design" that "invites you to explore God's Word anywhere, any time."

Besides a King James Version translation, it includes copies of the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence and the Pledge of Allegiance, as well as a handwritten chorus of the famous Greenwood song.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-god-bless-usa-bible-greenwood-2713fda3efdfa297d0f024efb1ca3003

I gave Trump $100 very recently. He  doesnt need to ply most of his supporters with anything. I bought a $32 hat back in 2016. Not to help him but to show some stupid cunt here, might have been Seamolester or Holigay, that his hats were made in America as he said. I then gave the hat away. Then I hammered all them liberal twats and their china hat airclaims  into splattered dogshit.

He needs the money and viola!, Truth Social is worth 3.5 billion to him in an instant.

I believe Donald Trump is helped by divine providence.

TRUMP 2024!!!!

There are some Democrats who don't approve of the invasion on Biden's watch.

QuoteDonald Trump 'Shake Up' Is Winning Over Democrats

A growing share of Democrats see former President Donald Trump as someone who will shake up the country for the better, poll trends show.

There has been a steady increase in the number of Democrats who see Trump in a positive light rather than as "a danger to democracy" who would further divide the U.S., according to a series of polls from Harvard CAPS/Harris.

Democrats also appear to be changing their minds about Trump. Although the former president has received low marks from Democrats throughout his political career, his general approval among Democrats has risen since he left office in 2021.

March's Harvard-Harris poll found that 29 percent of Democrats strongly or somewhat approve of the job that Trump did as commander-in-chief. In January 2020, only 14 percent of Democratic respondents told Harvard-Harris pollsters they approved of Trump's handling of the presidency.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-shake-up-is-winning-over-democrats/ar-BB1kzCbx?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=a7efc9d9d0094e09b33809378ec510fe&ei=7

RFK Jr selected Nicole Shanahan as his running mate. She has a long history of donating to soft-on-crime causes, including leading a foundation that spent big on groups opposed to mandatory minimum prison sentences and supporting the removal of police from schools.

She could move some independents into the Trump column. But, she could also energize the extreme left and steal votes from Cornel West.

Quote from: Thiel on March 27, 2024, 02:40:27 PMRFK Jr selected Nicole Shanahan as his running mate. She has a long history of donating to soft-on-crime causes, including leading a foundation that spent big on groups opposed to mandatory minimum prison sentences and supporting the removal of police from schools.

She could move some independents into the Trump column. But, she could also energize the extreme left and steal votes from Cornel West.

Not really.
She's just another super-rich lawyer with ties to silicon valley and other standard PMC circles with no actual cred among genuine grassroots organizations that I'm aware of. Just like RFKJr himself she was a staunch democrat until about 5 minutes ago.

If she can find any Cornel West supporters to steal from him I reckon she's welcome to 'em.

As someone most would consider "on the left" she doesn't move the needle toward RFKJr one tiny bit for me; all she does is further verify my perception of RFKJr as an egomaniac who only "dropped out" of the democrat party because they wouldn't hand him the nomination on a silver platter.

The only thing she brings to the table as RFKJr's veep is money.
She doesn't have any experience in governance. Like, literally zero experience.

I don't know why she agreed to do it but RFKJr's motivation is as clear as it is unserious.

I have to add that anyone who thinks they should be POTUS is a major egomaniac.

Case in point, I should be supreme ruler of America.

Quote from: Lokmar on March 27, 2024, 05:59:42 PMI have to add that anyone who thinks they should be POTUS is a major egomaniac.

Case in point, I should be supreme ruler of America.

You've got my vote!  :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:

Quote from: Garraty_47 on March 27, 2024, 04:47:27 PMNot really.
She's just another super-rich lawyer with ties to silicon valley and other standard PMC circles with no actual cred among genuine grassroots organizations that I'm aware of. Just like RFKJr himself she was a staunch democrat until about 5 minutes ago.

If she can find any Cornel West supporters to steal from him I reckon she's welcome to 'em.

As someone most would consider "on the left" she doesn't move the needle toward RFKJr one tiny bit for me; all she does is further verify my perception of RFKJr as an egomaniac who only "dropped out" of the democrat party because they wouldn't hand him the nomination on a silver platter.

The only thing she brings to the table as RFKJr's veep is money.
She doesn't have any experience in governance. Like, literally zero experience.

I don't know why she agreed to do it but RFKJr's motivation is as clear as it is unserious.

It would appear you know the hearts and minds of Cornel West supporters better than I.

Quote from: Thiel on March 29, 2024, 05:40:28 PMIt would appear you know the hearts and minds of Cornel West supporters better than I.

When he first announced I admit I was a little excited.
He's a great orator and although he tends to lean a little too heavily on the religious stuff he's at least been rhetorically on the right side of many issues. The fact that he was running in the People's Party was also a plus as far as I was concerned; fuck the duopoly.

Then he left the People's Party, became a Green, then hired Peter Fucking Daou?!? No wait, he left the Greens too, Daou quits, and now he's an independent with even less ballot access than he had as a Green and no visible plan for how he could possibly win the presidency.

The whole process was, ah, uninspiring shall we say. I got the impression of someone severely lacking in organization and strategy who apparently believed he could simply coast in on name recognition alone.

It didn't help that he began sniping at people who had been supporters like Jimmy Dore and the folk at RBN. Then he even turned on Peter Daou and Jill Stein but not with anything specific... just vague statements about them being "untrustworthy" or the like.

There was more too but all that mess was enough to convince me he wasn't the one and these days I rarely hear anyone mention him out in the wild so I presume others have reached a similar conclusion.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on March 29, 2024, 08:51:13 PMWhen he first announced I admit I was a little excited.
He's a great orator and although he tends to lean a little too heavily on the religious stuff he's at least been rhetorically on the right side of many issues. The fact that he was running in the People's Party was also a plus as far as I was concerned; fuck the duopoly.

Then he left the People's Party, became a Green, then hired Peter Fucking Daou?!? No wait, he left the Greens too, Daou quits, and now he's an independent with even less ballot access than he had as a Green and no visible plan for how he could possibly win the presidency.

The whole process was, ah, uninspiring shall we say. I got the impression of someone severely lacking in organization and strategy who apparently believed he could simply coast in on name recognition alone.

It didn't help that he began sniping at people who had been supporters like Jimmy Dore and the folk at RBN. Then he even turned on Peter Daou and Jill Stein but not with anything specific... just vague statements about them being "untrustworthy" or the like.

There was more too but all that mess was enough to convince me he wasn't the one and these days I rarely hear anyone mention him out in the wild so I presume others have reached a similar conclusion.

Next he will be endorsing RFK. :crampe:

The hidden gem in the newest Fox News poll should induce panic for President Joe Biden.

The results of the poll, released on Wednesday, mirrored nearly every other major political poll conducted over the past six months: Donald Trump maintains a narrow lead over Biden, voters believe the country is headed in the wrong direction and they believe they are worse off under Biden, the economy and immigration are the top issues — problems voters trust Trump to solve — and Biden's approval rating is in the tank.
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1773115791786823907?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1773115791786823907%7Ctwgr%5E17db199b15190bc3f076fcae80718f2f6897acd7%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Fpoll-biden-top-accomplishment-nothing

Quote from: Garraty_47 on March 29, 2024, 08:51:13 PMWhen he first announced I admit I was a little excited.
He's a great orator and although he tends to lean a little too heavily on the religious stuff he's at least been rhetorically on the right side of many issues. The fact that he was running in the People's Party was also a plus as far as I was concerned; fuck the duopoly.

Then he left the People's Party, became a Green, then hired Peter Fucking Daou?!? No wait, he left the Greens too, Daou quits, and now he's an independent with even less ballot access than he had as a Green and no visible plan for how he could possibly win the presidency.

The whole process was, ah, uninspiring shall we say. I got the impression of someone severely lacking in organization and strategy who apparently believed he could simply coast in on name recognition alone.

It didn't help that he began sniping at people who had been supporters like Jimmy Dore and the folk at RBN. Then he even turned on Peter Daou and Jill Stein but not with anything specific... just vague statements about them being "untrustworthy" or the like.

There was more too but all that mess was enough to convince me he wasn't the one and these days I rarely hear anyone mention him out in the wild so I presume others have reached a similar conclusion.

Needless to say, his candidacy is still alive in name only.

Here is a troof TDS wankers will not like.

RCP's Addie Von Drehle: If 2024 Election Was Held Today, RCP Average Says Trump Would Win 312-226
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/03/20/rcps_addie_von_drehle_if_2024_election_was_held_today_rcp_average_says_trump_would_win_312-226.html

Here is another troof. The democRATs are working just as hard to keep Kennedy off the ballot as they are Trump.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fears-surge-over-democrat-plot-to-keep-rfk-jr-off-ballots-as-biden-support-plummets/ar-AA1ll6zL
leading political expert in the US has warned that there will be an attempt by the Democrats to stop Robert F. Kennedy from being on the ballots in their stronghold states because they fear he will split their vote.

With RFK set to run as an independent candidate in the Presidential election next year, polling by Washington DC-based think tank Democracy Institute has revealed he is gaining in support and taking votes away from the Democrats.

"And this is the tell, the Democrats are going to fight tooth and nail to keep him off states where if he gets 10 or 15 percent it will make a difference."

The latest monthly poll shows that Kennedy would pick up 15 percent of the vote nationally, pushing Joe Biden down to 37 percent with Trump a five point winner on 42 percent.

The polling is catastrophic for the US President, with Biden rating negatively on every category.

Even in a straight race without Kennedy in the mix he loses by 45 percent to 42 percent, but this underlines that he is the bigger loser if Kennedy is involved with negative five points compared to Trump's negative three.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on March 29, 2024, 08:51:13 PMWhen he first announced I admit I was a little excited.
He's a great orator and although he tends to lean a little too heavily on the religious stuff he's at least been rhetorically on the right side of many issues. The fact that he was running in the People's Party was also a plus as far as I was concerned; fuck the duopoly.

Then he left the People's Party, became a Green, then hired Peter Fucking Daou?!? No wait, he left the Greens too, Daou quits, and now he's an independent with even less ballot access than he had as a Green and no visible plan for how he could possibly win the presidency.

The whole process was, ah, uninspiring shall we say. I got the impression of someone severely lacking in organization and strategy who apparently believed he could simply coast in on name recognition alone.

It didn't help that he began sniping at people who had been supporters like Jimmy Dore and the folk at RBN. Then he even turned on Peter Daou and Jill Stein but not with anything specific... just vague statements about them being "untrustworthy" or the like.

There was more too but all that mess was enough to convince me he wasn't the one and these days I rarely hear anyone mention him out in the wild so I presume others have reached a similar conclusion.

Ah, well.  Who the fuck else is there to vote for?

Quote from: The Gist on April 02, 2024, 04:42:45 PMAh, well.  Who the fuck else is there to vote for?

So you're not voting for Biden, Lotus?

Quote from: The Gist on April 02, 2024, 04:42:45 PMAh, well.  Who the fuck else is there to vote for?

For me? If Jill Stein gets the Green nomination (and I don't know why she wouldn't) I might vote for her, as I did in 2016. Or I might write in Vermin Supreme, or someone else.

All I know for sure is I won't be voting for a democrat or a republican.

A vote for the duopoly is a wasted vote.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on April 02, 2024, 06:57:49 PMA vote for the duopoly is a wasted vote.

In a manner of speaking - yes

but Trump is definitely the lesser of two evils and if allowed 4 more years there's no telling how far this country will sink

and since none of these third parties have a chance I'd argue that voting for one of them is actually the wasted vote

Vivek was my first choice and even a Tulsi Gabbard as a secondary. Trump would be my third pick and who I am voting for as I would rather be burned alive than put in a vote for a stricken cock sucking vermin democrat

Quote from: Garraty_47 on April 02, 2024, 06:57:49 PMFor me? If Jill Stein gets the Green nomination (and I don't know why she wouldn't) I might vote for her, as I did in 2016. Or I might write in Vermin Supreme, or someone else.

All I know for sure is I won't be voting for a democrat or a republican.

A vote for the duopoly is a wasted vote.

I get that. If I could, I would vote for Trump. He is in the Republican Party, but he aint no RepublicRAT. And yes, both parties, minus the GOP Trump wing are essentially the same on immigration and their love of war.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 02, 2024, 07:28:22 PMnone of these third parties have a chance

Only because too many people still can't bring themselves to abandon the duopoly.

But that's not my fault, nor is it a good reason to join them in their folly.

I've been voting 3rd party or independent especially in presidential elections since I've been old enough to vote and there's no way I'm about to change now when the choices offered by the democrats and republicans are arguably even worse than they were 40 years ago.

Although with Biden it's both worse and the same because he's been in politics the whole time; it's really fucked up that despite such a long record of being a pathological liar, corporate tool, and warmongering wanksplat there are still people who think he's worth voting for.

The mind boggles.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on April 02, 2024, 08:25:03 PMAlthough with Biden it's both worse and the same because he's been in politics the whole time; it's really fucked up that despite such a long record of being a pathological liar, corporate tool, and warmongering wanksplat there are still people who think he's worth voting for.

The mind boggles.

You frickin nailed it. :thumbup2:

Quote from: Garraty_47 on April 02, 2024, 08:25:03 PMOnly because too many people still can't bring themselves to abandon the duopoly.

But that's not my fault, nor is it a good reason to join them in their folly.

I've been voting 3rd party or independent especially in presidential elections since I've been old enough to vote and there's no way I'm about to change now when the choices offered by the democrats and republicans are arguably even worse than they were 40 years ago.

Although with Biden it's both worse and the same because he's been in politics the whole time; it's really fucked up that despite such a long record of being a pathological liar, corporate tool, and warmongering wanksplat there are still people who think he's worth voting for.

The mind boggles.

I get it bro

The world is what it is and most people are too fucking stupid to see things for what they are.

On both sides of the coin.

I was literally embarrassed for my brethren on the right when  they could not bring themselves to vote for Vivek because he's a little brown guy. The guy was sharp, articulate and had the right idea on many things. He would have been difficult for them to paint with the same brush as they do with Trump

He was my first choice but damned if I'm going to give my vote to that catatonic criminal and neither will I throw it away on some candidate who has ZERO hope of getting this piece of shit out of office

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 02, 2024, 08:32:21 PMI was literally embarrassed for my brethren on the right when  they could not bring themselves to vote for Vivek because he's a little brown guy. The guy was sharp, articulate and had the right idea on many things. He would have been difficult for them to paint with the same brush as they do with Trump

There were some anti progs who would not vote for Vivek because his folks are from Southern India? If that is true, they are stupid assholes.

Quote from: Herman on April 02, 2024, 08:39:57 PMThere were some anti progs who would not vote for Vivek because his folks are from Southern India? If that is true, they are stupid assholes.

The only people I know who didnt trust him were focused on his religion, not his brownness.

I didn't pay much attention to the primaries this time but saw enough to appreciate the way Vivek absolutely wrecked Nikki (not her name) Haley.

That was a thing of beauty.

Quote from: Lokmar on April 02, 2024, 09:07:57 PMThe only people I know who didnt trust him were focused on his religion, not his brownness.

He is a Hindu. Big deal and nobody's business anyway.

Quote from: Herman on April 02, 2024, 09:18:33 PMHe is a Hindu. Big deal and nobody's business anyway.

WRONG!

Nobody that isnt a God Fearing Jesus believing Christian is fit to lead America. I wouldnt support a jew running America either. I SURE AS FUCK would be incensed if a muhzie were at the helm. Thats grounds for an outright civil war.

I suggest reading what the founders wrote before making such ignorant statements.

Quote from: Lokmar on April 02, 2024, 09:56:30 PMWRONG!

Nobody that isnt a God Fearing Jesus believing Christian is fit to lead America. I wouldnt support a jew running America either. I SURE AS FUCK would be incensed if a muhzie were at the helm. Thats grounds for an outright civil war.

I suggest reading what the founders wrote before making such ignorant statements.

Hindus are harmless.

Quote from: Herman on April 02, 2024, 09:59:47 PMHindus are harmless.

That was not what I was addressing.

Quote from: Lokmar on April 02, 2024, 10:01:37 PMThat was not what I was addressing.

You were talking about who is fit to lead. Vivek is far more fit to lead than the corrupt puppet in the white house now.

Trump leads Biden in 6 crucial swing states

QuoteA Wall Street Journal survey released Wednesday found Trump, 77, is leading in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia by between one and three percentage points and in North Carolina, Arizona and Nevada by at or more than the poll's four-point margin of error.

Biden, 81, and the former president are also tied in a head-to-head matchup in the blue wall state of Wisconsin, but the Democrat holds a three-point lead when adding in candidates from outside both of the major parties.

With the exception of North Carolina, the six states polled handed Biden his victory over Trump four years ago, driven in large part by a coalition of black, Hispanic and young voters.

That coalition is now flagging, with just 68% of black voters, 50% of voters under the age of 30 and 48% of Hispanic voters supporting the president for another term.

According to AP VoteCast, Biden won black voters in 2020 by 91 percentage points, Hispanic voters by 63 points and voters under 30 by 61 points.

The seven battleground states comprise 93 of the 270 Electoral College votes needed for either candidate to win in November — and Trump's lead in the six competitive contests holds even when factoring in third-party and independent candidates.

In all seven states surveyed, voters rated Biden's job performance negatively by margins of 16 percentage points or more.

Meanwhile, Trump received a negative job performance rating in just one of the seven states: Arizona.

By the issues, a majority of the voters said Trump was the better candidate to handle the economy and border security, with 54% and 52% backing the former president, respectively.

Just 34% said Biden was the better pick for dealing with the economy, and 32% favored the president on immigration issues.

https://nypost.com/2024/04/03/us-news/trump-tops-biden-in-six-swing-states-ahead-of-2024-election-poll/

Quote from: Thiel on April 03, 2024, 05:06:44 PMTrump leads Biden in 6 crucial swing states https://nypost.com/2024/04/03/us-news/trump-tops-biden-in-six-swing-states-ahead-of-2024-election-poll/

I was going to post about this. I was kind of surprised to see that RFK is helping Biden in some states, like Wisconsin for example.

Quote from: Herman on April 03, 2024, 07:16:53 PMI was going to post about this. I was kind of surprised to see that RFK is helping Biden in some states, like Wisconsin for example.

It is mixed. In some states like Georgia, Kennedy is helping Trump. In others, like Wisconsin, he is helping Biden.

According to Gallup, immigration has become the No. 1 election issue for voters, a result of a border crisis that exploded under Biden's watch.

Not only are Americans concerned about the millions of migrants who have entered the U.S. under Biden, but they're concerned about the crime associated with the migration, which is tightly controlled by Mexican cartels.

The issue, moreover, has become local for tens of millions of Americans who live in sanctuary cities and states because migrants are being bused to those localities. Whereas immigration has always been an important issue for voters who live on the southern border, it's now a primary concern of voters who live thousands of miles away from la frontera.

Trump announced today that he will not back a national abortion ban. Ge said the issue should be left to states to decide. :good:

Quote from: Herman on April 08, 2024, 06:46:32 PMTrump announced today that he will not back a national abortion ban. Ge said the issue should be left to states to decide. :good:

As it should be EXCEPT, 100% of third tri abortions should be completely off the table, ZERO exceptions!!! There is absolutely no fucking reason to do one of these. EVER!

Quote from: Lokmar on April 08, 2024, 06:55:13 PMAs it should be EXCEPT, 100% of third tri abortions should be completely off the table, ZERO exceptions!!! There is absolutely no fucking reason to do one of these. EVER!

I agree with Trump, abortion should be left up to the states. He has basically taken this issue away from the democRATs with his sensible position.

Quote from: Herman on April 08, 2024, 06:57:56 PMI agree with Trump, abortion should be left up to the states. He has basically taken this issue away from the democRATs with his sensible position.

Abortion in the third tri should be treated as manslaughter at the very least. That kid is completely viable outside the womb.

Quote from: Lokmar on April 08, 2024, 07:03:19 PMAbortion in the third tri should be treated as manslaughter at the very least. That kid is completely viable outside the womb.

Let the states decide. Trump knows that making abortion an issue is not going to win him any new votes. Look at the US midterms. The Supreme Court decision cost the GOP a red wave.

Quote from: Herman on April 08, 2024, 07:16:52 PMLet the states decide. Trump knows that making abortion an issue is not going to win him any new votes. Look at the US midterms. The Supreme Court decision cost the GOP a red wave.

Absolutely positively NOT!!!! The states have ZERO rights to decide if a viable human being aborted is murder. None whatsoever. The right to life is Constitutional. Want a scrape, get it in the first tri and get it in a state that allows it. I swear, I'd see ANYONE and EVERYONE who participated in the abortion of a normal 3rd tri baby executed....preferable burned at the stake!!!

Quote from: Lokmar on April 08, 2024, 09:11:30 PMAbsolutely positively NOT!!!! The states have ZERO rights to decide if a viable human being aborted is murder. None whatsoever. The right to life is Constitutional. Want a scrape, get it in the first tri and get it in a state that allows it. I swear, I'd see ANYONE and EVERYONE who participated in the abortion of a normal 3rd tri baby executed....preferable burned at the stake!!!

Look smartass, do you want to lose the next election, including the House and Senate? If Trump talks abortion instead of borders and gas prices, that is what will happen. Let states decide. Trump is being smart.

Quote from: Lokmar on April 08, 2024, 07:03:19 PMAbortion in the third tri should be treated as manslaughter at the very least. That kid is completely viable outside the womb.

Bro -- I hear you... I Used to feel the same

but look at it this way. States like Oregon and Cali will be providing drive thru abortions in like every fucking zipcode

hell, it'll get to a point where you can pick up an abortion, some booze and fentanyl in the same run... and what does that mean? More libtard scum will be getting rid of more future libtard scum

I am all fucking for that. The less seamajors and admongs in the world the better

Let them kill themselves off up until the day of delivery and beyond as far as I'm concerned 

Quote from: Herman on April 08, 2024, 09:15:07 PMLook smartass, do you want to lose the next election, including the House and Senate? If Trump talks abortion instead of borders and gas prices, that is what will happen. Let states decide. Trump is being smart.

Smartass? WTF? You go right ahead and defend outright murder all day long because you're too much of a moral coward to risk losing an election. I would'nt care if they said they would execute my entire family! 3rd tri abortions are straight up MURDER!

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 08, 2024, 09:18:32 PMBro -- I hear you... I Used to feel the same

but look at it this way. States like Oregon and Cali will be providing drive thru abortions in like every fucking zipcode

hell, it'll get to a point where you can pick up an abortion, some booze and fentanyl in the same run... and what does that mean? More libtard scum will be getting rid of more future libtard scum

I am all fucking for that. The less seamajors and admongs in the world the better

Let them kill themselves off up until the day of delivery and beyond as far as I'm concerned 

Sorry, I cant go there. Its abhorrent.

Quote from: Lokmar on April 08, 2024, 09:22:15 PMSorry, I cant go there. Its abhorrent.

I used to feel the same

but it's liberals we're talking about here. They can take their sins up with God.

Dove is going to be so upset with me... lolz


now, if they try to impose these kinds of day of delivery abortions on the Good people of Florida I'm gonna have a real problem

keep your dogshit in places like Oregon and Cali where it belongs.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 08, 2024, 09:23:06 PMI used to feel the same

but it's liberals we're talking about here. They can take their sins up with God.

There is no way in good conscience I can ever turn a blind eye to that kind of slaughter of innocents.

Gassing blue haired libtards that already had the chance to make their informed choice? I'm all for it.

Quote from: Lokmar on April 08, 2024, 09:26:45 PMThere is no way in good conscience I can ever turn a blind eye to that kind of slaughter of innocents.

Gassing blue haired libtards that already had the chance to make their informed choice? I'm all for it.

I can

and I look at it this way

there is a 95% chance or greater that the blue haired degenerate is going to teach that child how to be a degenerate to.. and in 18 years what will you have? A degenerate with a serious head start and the ability to vote

fuck.. oh yeah, I'm all for drive through abortions

any time they want one

just keep it confined to their own shitholes

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 08, 2024, 09:29:15 PMI can

and I look at it this way

there is a 95% chance or greater that the blue haired degenerate is going to teach that child how to be a degenerate to.. and in 18 years what will you have? A degenerate with a serious head start and the ability to vote

fuck.. oh yeah, I'm all for drive through abortions

any time they want one

just keep it confined to their own shitholes

That strips a life of its free will and is antithetical to my beliefs.

I'm not trying to live in a world where Minority Report is live action. Its bad enough that we're living in 1984.

Quote from: Lokmar on April 08, 2024, 09:21:26 PMSmartass? WTF? You go right ahead and defend outright murder all day long because you're too much of a moral coward to risk losing an election. I would'nt care if they said they would execute my entire family! 3rd tri abortions are straight up MURDER!

I am pro choice. But, not after the first trimester.

But, that aint my point. The US has federal elections this year. Trump aint going to gain any votes by making an issue out of abortion. It may even cost him some independent votes. If you want an abortion ban do it at the state level. This election is too important to lose over an issue like abortion. Trump is smart to recognize that even though you don't.

Quote from: Herman on April 08, 2024, 09:51:14 PMI am pro choice. But, not after the first trimester.

But, that aint my point. The US has federal elections this year. Trump aint going to gain any votes by making an issue out of abortion. It may even cost him some independent votes. If you want an abortion ban do it at the state level. This election is too important to lose over an issue like abortion. Trump is smart to recognize that even though you don't.

I like dead baby jokes as much as the next guy, this one aint funny tho.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 08, 2024, 09:25:20 PMDove is going to be so upset with me... lolz


now, if they try to impose these kinds of day of delivery abortions on the Good people of Florida I'm gonna have a real problem

keep your dogshit in places like Oregon and Cali where it belongs.

 Not upset.

 I don't agree at all and I'd ask you to really pull this apart to the core and reconsider.

 As long as abortion is legal, we have no fundamental right to our lives. That's the foundation of all our other rights.

 We simply cannot accept the philosophical concept of personhood that permits abortion. We cannot allow the degrading of human life. Making humans into property.

 Allowing abortion put us on the fast track to all the other depravity we have today. 

 I would literally die on this hill. If I compromised on this....it cheapens and wrecks my entire value system.

Quote from: Dove on April 09, 2024, 08:11:55 AMNot upset.

 I don't agree at all and I'd ask you to really pull this apart to the core and reconsider.

 As long as abortion is legal, we have no fundamental right to our lives. That's the foundation of all our other rights.

 We simply cannot accept the philosophical concept of personhood that permits abortion. We cannot allow the degrading of human life. Making humans into property.

 Allowing abortion put us on the fast track to all the other depravity we have today. 

 I would literally die on this hill. If I compromised on this....it cheapens and wrecks my entire value system.

I get all that but this election is far too important to risk based on the lives of some libtard fetuses which will one day grow up to be the very people who ruin this country further

nah... let them vacuum the little fuckers out as much as they want to. Just keep it in their own blue cesspools and I am A okay with it.

This was Mike Pence's big issue and what did he poll at? 4% in the primaries?

this is a losing ticket for any conservative and the mongs on the left know it. Trump was brilliant to kick it back in their laps and as you can see they are STILL making him out to be the devil on the matter... can you imagine the panic and hysteria they could incite if he did take a hardliner stance?

I'm prolife with caveats - indeed I am and proud of it

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 09, 2024, 08:55:58 AMI get all that but this election is far too important to risk based on the lives of some libtard fetuses which will one day grow up to be the very people who ruin this country further

nah... let them vacuum the little fuckers out as much as they want to. Just keep it in their own blue cesspools and I am A okay with it.

This was Mike Pence's big issue and what did he poll at? 4% in the primaries?

this is a losing ticket for any conservative and the mongs on the left know it. Trump was brilliant to kick it back in their laps and as you can see they are STILL making him out to be the devil on the matter... can you imagine the panic and hysteria they could incite if he did take a hardliner stance?

I'm prolife with caveats - indeed I am and proud of it

The problem is, the narrative is STILL, "Republicans want to take away all abortion". Any compromise will net zero results. Not 2 days ago, they were focused on Florida's 6 week ban and how it could spread across the nation. Even if all CON's agreed to 5 months, the narrative is still going to be "abortion gonna be illegal!"

Quote from: Lokmar on April 09, 2024, 09:21:01 AMThe problem is, the narrative is STILL, "Republicans want to take away all abortion". Any compromise will net zero results. Not 2 days ago, they were focused on Florida's 6 week ban and how it could spread across the nation. Even if all CON's agreed to 5 months, the narrative is still going to be "abortion gonna be illegal!"

Yes it is, and to the average brain dead libtard cretin it always will be. No matter what our actual position is. Look no further than seamajor if you wish to witness the mind decay of libtardism in real time and how pointless it is to have a conversion requiring any depth with a fucking guy who has the IQ of tuna fish can.

we are not trying to win these blue hair soy boy morons over tho... they are nonredeemable and too stupid to do anything but follow whatever orders are disseminated to them on the view

we are looking to keep/win over the undecided independent thinkers who can look at the situation objectively and say to themselves "making this a state issue is the fairest option and is directly in line with what the constitution outlines on the matter"  -- we lose those people in droves if we take the hardliner approach and lose the election. And for what.. to protect future libtards? Nah, I ain't for that. If future libtards gotta go they go

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 09, 2024, 09:29:12 AMYes it is, and to the average brain dead libtard cretin it always will be. No matter what our actual position is. Look no further than seamajor if you wish to witness the mind decay of libtardism in real time and how pointless it is to have a conversion requiring any depth with a fucking guy who has the IQ of tuna fish can.

we are not trying to win these blue hair soy boy morons over tho... they are nonredeemable and too stupid to do anything but follow whatever orders are disseminated to them on the view

we are looking to keep/win over the undecided independent thinkers who can look at the situation objectively and say to themselves "making this a state issue is the fairest option and is directly in line with what the constitution outlines on the matter"  -- we lose those people in droves if we take the hardliner approach and lose the election. And for what.. to protect future libtards? Nah, I ain't for that. If future libtards gotta go they go

Obviously, I cant read the minds of all those people but I've NEVER talked to a fair minded person of ANY political persuasion that thought aborting a 7 month old baby was anything other than repulsive.

Now thats not to say I reject Trumps declaration. I completely agree abortion should be a states rights issue EXCEPT when that kid is viable. At the very least, if that kid can be pulled out of its mom and survive unaided by medical intervention, it needs to be illegal to butcher it. From a casual stroll through the inferwebs, that is somewhere between 25 to 28 weeks.

Quote from: Lokmar on April 09, 2024, 09:44:06 AMObviously, I cant read the minds of all those people but I've NEVER talked to a fair minded person of ANY political persuasion that thought aborting a 7 month old baby was anything other than repulsive.

Now thats not to say I reject Trumps declaration. I completely agree abortion should be a states rights issue EXCEPT when that kid is viable. At the very least, if that kid can be pulled out of its mom and survive unaided by medical intervention, it needs to be illegal to butcher it. From a casual stroll through the inferwebs, that is somewhere between 25 to 28 weeks.

here's the thing tho -- they are attempting to enact laws that will make that a very legal possibility -- so working off the mindset that you don't put on a condom unless you're going to fuck it makes sense that this a goal that is still in reserve until society becomes deviant enough to actually stomach it.

and that day is fast approaching.. but libtards will convince the airheaded idiots like the ones we see growing like fungi at Bastard Factory that this is NOT a possibility. And when it does become a reality those animals will seek to justify or ignore it like the useful idiot line towing morons they are. And that is what the left counts on

This is a LOSING battle for us my friend. It truly is.

So we as conservatives have to ask ourselves if we want to lose big or we want to lose not so big.

Take this stupid and utter failure of a  stance and lose the election outright and have the abortion until birth philosophy permeate throughout the entire country PLUS all the other horrendous policies that come by default with electing some vermin cocksucker on the left

or

Lose smaller by saying "let blue states be as degenerate as they want to be on this matter" and persevere our moral uprightness in our states and not have to deal with the horrid policies and potential stacking of the last sane holdout that comes with losing the election

You're telling me that some crotch rockets who will more than likely become libtards have to go in order to preserve some semblance of democracy in areas where it still has the possibility of thriving? -  I say fuckem... kill em twice if you need to.

 We lose because of weakness and apathy and years of saying "some of us have a job, you know".  Under estimating our opposition.

 Not because we don't compromise with the devil enough. 

 We have been compromising and loosening our values for Democrat causes so long that's WHY we are in this mess today.

 We aren't getting out of it by compromising more.  I mean think about it like this....how much of the steaming pile of feces do we need to clean off the living room floor to make the room smell tolerable?

 What Lokmar is saying is our opposition won't take a compromise. They always push and push for more. We get weak on this, next year we will be agreeing to just killing retarded newborns. Everytime we stomach one thing they push the bar to the next thing.

 Lincoln said slavery should be a state rights issue.

 (It isn't just libtards getting abortions. There are religious Trump voters dragging their 15 year old "prize" daughter to the farthest clinic they can get to in a weekend as I type this)

Well, it's either let them kill their own sprogs in their own cesspools or go to war with them to purge the adults and the sprogs simultaneously

OR

Die on this hill like Mike Pence did and have them run the whole country into the ground for the next 100 years

Like I said, this is a losing proposition no matter how you slice it

I believe abortion is Murder. I believe it's abhorent and worthy of God's wrath. and I truly hope he holds them to account for their crimes against these unborn AND I believe it's a spit in his face. No need to convince me, you're preaching to the choir.

But I am willing to turn a blind eye to it as long as they keep it confined to their own decaying cesspools. What can I tell you. I'm selfish that way. Guilty as fucking charged. And damn proud of it.

it will be IMPOSSIBLE to win on a platform which the left will use big tech to twist and turn from a very sound and reasonable philosophy  into "Yoo will be raped by cons and forced to have their babies!!!!"

which you know the average moron in this country will buy that line of bullshit, hook line and sinker.

c'mon people, wake up and know thy enemy.. this is God's problem to sort out. NOT OURS!

but if you make it OURS with this stupid hysteria it will be 10X worse 10X faster and it will be in ALL 50 States instead of just the cesspools that could use a couple million of abortions anyway.. a lot of retroactive ones too!

fight the fights that can be fought and won on important matters.

this is why we fucking lose! we always try to be the bigger and more moral and in the process lose our fucking shirts..  It's just like our soliders being shipped off into urban combat in areas where the enemy has NO rules of engagement. We go there and try to follow entire checklists of processes and procedures to carefully extrapolate just the enemy and you know what? The enemy uses that playbook against us and ends up decimating us in the process

Did you not see the red wave turn into a purple sneeze? Why you think that was? Are you not seeing how Israel is being smeared by a verified TERRORIST ORGANIZATION?

 The average person in this country is stupid! And not just mildly stupid.. I'm talking sewage major and admong stupid!

 but that stupid person, unfortunately, has the power to cancel out one intelligent vote by the mere fact that they BREATHE

nope... let em have all the abortions they wish. Do fucking mail-in abortions if you fucking need to

Quote from: Dove on April 09, 2024, 08:11:55 AMNot upset.

 I don't agree at all and I'd ask you to really pull this apart to the core and reconsider.

 As long as abortion is legal, we have no fundamental right to our lives. That's the foundation of all our other rights.

 We simply cannot accept the philosophical concept of personhood that permits abortion. We cannot allow the degrading of human life. Making humans into property.

 Allowing abortion put us on the fast track to all the other depravity we have today. 

 I would literally die on this hill. If I compromised on this....it cheapens and wrecks my entire value system.

I gather you disagree with Trump's position to leave it up to the states?

Quote from: Thiel on April 09, 2024, 04:45:23 PMI gather you disagree with Trump's position to leave it up to the states?

 He can't ban it.

 I mean, yes and no. Politically it is a sound position and as I said before, Lincoln handled slavery the same way.

 It comes down to human rights.

 There are people right now who think that it's extremist beliefs that we are granted inalienable rights by our creator. That's our foundation and they think it's extreme.

 So we have a bunch of people who think humans grant rights to humans. Which means humans can remove them.

 It shouldn't be up to the states because we are now agreeing that our rights are granted to us from the government. The right to our lives should be preserved by the government.

I like decentralization, so I support giving states more autonomy to decide issues for themselves.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 09, 2024, 04:31:01 PMgo to war with them to purge the adults and the sprogs simultaneously

Do fucking mail-in abortions if you fucking need to

These are my 2 favorite lines from this post!
 :crampe:

if you want to stop abortion then better care of an embryo and fetus should be execised.

you have to make sure pregnant women dont drink, take drugs or smoke so babies aren't burdened with Foetal Alcohol Syndrom, in other words, cut down how many retarded children are born.

it's unfair to disadvantage people and our society that have to look after them a whole lifetime.

Quote from: caskur on April 09, 2024, 06:49:58 PMif you want to stop abortion then better care of an embryo and fetus should be execised.

you have to make sure pregnant women dont drink, take drugs or smoke so babies aren't burdened with Foetal Alcohol Syndrom, in other words, cut down how many retarded children are born.

it's unfair to disadvantage people and our society that have to look after them a whole lifetime.

My biggest problem is defending aborting late term.