Quote from: Lokmar on April 09, 2024, 09:06:38 PMPerhaps abortion means something slightly different in your country.

A late term baby that has died is not aborted. In fact, the typical method of removal is natural childbirth.

What I am referring to, they induce labor, deliver all but the head, then use a sharp object to penetrate the base of the skull, murdering the child. It is never ever necessary.

Abortion is the medical term...  spontaneous abortion is often called miscarriage... inducing is part of abortion. Fetus aren't aborted after 20 weeks in Australia.

Women do deliver fetus through a natural labour in Oz.... I am not sure how they kill the fetus if ever that eventuates.... cutting the head half off is bit rough. I'll look it up.

Quote from: caskur on April 09, 2024, 06:49:58 PMif you want to stop abortion then better care of an embryo and fetus should be execised.

you have to make sure pregnant women dont drink, take drugs or smoke so babies aren't burdened with Foetal Alcohol Syndrom, in other words, cut down how many retarded children are born.

it's unfair to disadvantage people and our society that have to look after them a whole lifetime.

 I agree completely.

 When I was in aftercare renting a house in the recovery community, another married couple lived above us.

 She was pregnant at the same time I was. She relapsed. At 6 months pregnant. Her and the scum bag father relapsed.

 It wasn't an apartment biulding...it was a large house with a downstairs 3 bedroom house and an upstairs 3 bedroom house. They were above us.

 One night at about 11pm, I was laying on the couch with my feet up and suddenly our front yard had police and our counselor and a bunch of people....turned out they tried selling the washer and dryer to some old couple and got caught

 Anyway....they were excused from the community and continued to use heroin and even meth.

 The baby, a little girl named Scarlette, was born right before fathers day. Premature, heavily addicted to opiates and had global brain damage. Couldn't even suck to eat.

 The mother had no consequences. This couple also had a 3 year old boy and a 1 year old boy. And she had two older kids she never saw. She left them.

 She left these kids too. They are being raised by the scum bag dads mother and he died of an overdose last year.

 The mother is in IL dating some white rapper guy.

 She should be rotting in prison for what she did to that poor baby girl.

 I have no idea how these kids are doing today. I was pregnant when this went down and I had to block it all and avoid being involved in anyway. It was so toxic and it hurt my heart so bad.

 I hope they are doing okay today. (The kids....not the shit heel parents. The dad is dead and mom is a crack whore)

Quote from: Lokmar on April 09, 2024, 09:06:38 PMPerhaps abortion means something slightly different in your country.

A late term baby that has died is not aborted. In fact, the typical method of removal is natural childbirth.

What I am referring to, they induce labor, deliver all but the head, then use a sharp object to penetrate the base of the skull, murdering the child. It is never ever necessary.

 Medically a still birth or miscarriage is called a spontaneous abortion.

 It's not the same as elective abortion. Elective abortion is what the controversy is.

And that whole "don't judge, addiction is a disease" bullshit can get fucked.

IM an addict. I've been clean for 10 years this month. I managed to complete my pregnancy and care for my child without "stress" driving me to relapse.

In fact it's pretty easy to avoid relapsing. I can't imagine I ever would...but I know with certainty I wouldn't relapsed while pregnant.

Even women who are already using who find out they are pregnant will seek help and get on methadone and carry out the pregnancy under medical supervision. Yes the baby will be born dependent and need to be treated for withdrawals ...but at least mom went and got help when she realized she's pregnant (you cannot go off opiates during pregnancy...the stress if it can kill the baby)

This sociopathic piece of shit chose...yes CHOSE ..to pick back up while was 6 months pregnant.

Just such a flagrant disregard of her baby.

Quote from: Dove on April 09, 2024, 10:21:06 PMI agree completely.

 When I was in aftercare renting a house in the recovery community, another married couple lived above us.

 She was pregnant at the same time I was. She relapsed. At 6 months pregnant. Her and the scum bag father relapsed.

 It wasn't an apartment biulding...it was a large house with a downstairs 3 bedroom house and an upstairs 3 bedroom house. They were above us.

 One night at about 11pm, I was laying on the couch with my feet up and suddenly our front yard had police and our counselor and a bunch of people....turned out they tried selling the washer and dryer to some old couple and got caught

 Anyway....they were excused from the community and continued to use heroin and even meth.

 The baby, a little girl named Scarlette, was born right before fathers day. Premature, heavily addicted to opiates and had global brain damage. Couldn't even suck to eat.

 The mother had no consequences. This couple also had a 3 year old boy and a 1 year old boy. And she had two older kids she never saw. She left them.

 She left these kids too. They are being raised by the scum bag dads mother and he died of an overdose last year.

 The mother is in IL dating some white rapper guy.

 She should be rotting in prison for what she did to that poor baby girl.

 I have no idea how these kids are doing today. I was pregnant when this went down and I had to block it all and avoid being involved in anyway. It was so toxic and it hurt my heart so bad.

 I hope they are doing okay today. (The kids....not the shit heel parents. The dad is dead and mom is a crack whore)

It's really sad because the whole thing is 100% preventable.

Quote from: Dove on April 09, 2024, 10:32:59 PMIM an addict. I've been clean for 10 years this month.

Congratulations Dove! 

Quote from: Oliver the Second on April 10, 2024, 09:36:58 AMCongratulations Dove! 

Congratulations to Dove.

I too broke my addictions to cigarettes coming up 10 years this 28 th of June and 6 years to the nicotine lozenge on the 20 of June.


Do I feel like a cigarette? Yes.... will I have one, No.

And yes, definitely congratulations to Dovey stopping the hard drugs...

 Thanks guys. That wasn't really meant to get any back pats but I do appreciate it.

 It wasn't really hard to stay off once I had some time under my belt.

Quote from: Dove on April 10, 2024, 05:33:53 PMThanks guys. That wasn't really meant to get any back pats but I do appreciate it.

 It wasn't really hard to stay off once I had some time under my belt.

the important thing now is to accept how hard all of that was on Buffalo Blimp.

Do you realize the strain your addiction placed on her as she was going on with her life oblivious to your daily activities  fucking paki cab drivers on newpaper sheets and boarding planes to sexually harass men that didn't want her?

Have you atoned for all of that yet?

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on April 10, 2024, 05:43:16 PMthe important thing now is to accept how hard all of that was on Buffalo Blimp.

Do you realize the strain your addiction placed on her as she was going on with her life oblivious to your daily activities  fucking paki cab drivers on newpaper sheets and boarding planes to sexually harass men that didn't want her?

Have you atoned for all of that yet?

 I dont know if I can atone for all that!

 It was really hard on her!

I went three whole days without barrel wash once. I deserve a thumbs up too.

Quote from: Herman on April 11, 2024, 04:34:37 AMI went three whole days without barrel wash once. I deserve a thumbs up too.

 Oh what the heck, have two   

Quote from: Herman on April 11, 2024, 04:34:37 AMI went three whole days without barrel wash once. I deserve a thumbs up too.

If you bought the good stuff, you wouldnt have to go without!!!