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Title: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 07, 2023, 01:56:02 PM
now that i know how mimi feels about me and her pet monkey attacking me in every thread i think it's time to go.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: reaps the honest on December 07, 2023, 02:14:50 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMw1GmJzF6A
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: formosan on December 07, 2023, 03:20:11 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 07, 2023, 01:56:02 PMnow that i know how mimi feels about me and her pet monkey attacking me in every thread i think it's time to go.
You've been there a very long time.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 07, 2023, 03:48:28 PM
all good things must come to an end i suppose.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 07, 2023, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 07, 2023, 01:56:02 PMnow that i know how mimi feels about me and her pet monkey attacking me in every thread i think it's time to go.
Is Mel posting at VF?
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 07, 2023, 04:35:10 PM
i wish. they say he isn't banned though.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 07, 2023, 10:13:42 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 07, 2023, 01:56:02 PMnow that i know how mimi feels about me and her pet monkey attacking me in every thread i think it's time to go.
You are back. I forgot my password at memebee. I usually had too many thumbles of barrel wash in me when I posted there.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 07, 2023, 10:51:27 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 07, 2023, 01:56:02 PMnow that i know how mimi feels about me and her pet monkey attacking me in every thread i think it's time to go.
Et tu koreaboo? I remember Mimsy getting all up in arms when I kept repeatedly dropping Semenjaw on his head there like a sack of burning shit. Seems she wanted me to hold myself to a higher standard than she afforded her surfboard molestering dingus... I didn't even bother with the obligatory fond farewells and simply logged out on the spot.

No sense in hanging about a place like that. Not that I have any real beef with the champagne socialist you understand, I just couldn't be arsed pulling my punches on her pet weirdo and found me more rewarding things to do.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 08, 2023, 10:16:42 AM
i almost only post in the music thread. i mostly skip the regular threads because posting political talking points isn't my thing. to paraphrase soyeon from (g)i-dle, i'm neither left or right and like to troll them both but you have to give me something to play with other than boring talking points.

Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 08, 2023, 10:24:39 AM
trolling american politics was fun until eventually everybody retreated to their respective camps. i'm not going to spend the night researching and posting content only to bee met with boring rhetoric dammit.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 08, 2023, 10:29:53 AM
as for politics, we need something to happen where everybody reacts instinctively before their brain kicks in and tries to make sense of the chaos. imho that's where the truth lies.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 08, 2023, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: Brent on December 07, 2023, 04:06:57 PMIs Mel posting at VF?
Mel is probably at 4chan and unlikely to return to VF or here.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 08, 2023, 10:35:46 AM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 08, 2023, 10:24:39 AMtrolling american politics was fun until eventually everybody retreated to their respective camps. i'm not going to spend the night researching and posting content only to bee met with boring rhetoric dammit.
It is difficult to have a civil discussion about North American politics in 2023.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 08, 2023, 10:38:10 AM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 07, 2023, 01:56:02 PMnow that i know how mimi feels about me and her pet monkey attacking me in every thread i think it's time to go.
I like the owner of VF. She is very civil, pragmatic,and welcoming. But, that forum doesn't take kindly to new posters.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 08, 2023, 10:44:23 AM
if i we're talking about evs i totally agree. mimi is a snob though and i don't think i ever recall her being particularly welcoming to anyone.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 08, 2023, 10:49:01 AM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 08, 2023, 10:44:23 AMif i we're talking about evs i totally agree. mimi is a snob though and i don't think i ever recall her being particularly welcoming to anyone.
I was talking about evs.

I don't want to agree to what you posted about the second in command at VF because I will make visits there again. But, I will not disagree with you and I will leave it at that.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 08, 2023, 10:53:36 AM
i get the feeling that mimi 'mostly' tolerates people like me.  i'm a necessary evil so that the people she does like have a place to chat together. god forbid someone like me gets involved in one of those threads.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 08, 2023, 11:08:47 AM
Quote from: DKG on December 08, 2023, 10:35:46 AMIt is difficult to have a civil discussion about North American politics in 2023.
I tried to back during the 2020 primaries, all I seemed to find were brainfried CNN schills ranting how Trump was responsible for everything from hurricanes to hemorrhoids. Even entreating them to be a bit more careful than what was being shuffled through the door to replace him was met with more Trumps Derangement Syndrome. They really did not think there could be any possibility that things could take such a drastic turn for the worse and... well here we are.

The dizzy limit came when I was talking to a waitress friend of mine who having finished her journalism degree at Ottawa U was waiting tables at one of the bars where I was doing sound reinforcement. Discussing Biden's encroaching dementia, the Tara Reade rape allegations, the warnings female secret service operatives were given regarding Biden's "hands-on" approach to women and not least of all, the hours upon hours of archival TV footage of him sniffing minors and groping them on the tit while making the creepiest comments I can remember coming out of any politician's mouth... all problems she recognized and insisted we needed to forget... because Trump had to be defeated.

I haven't spoken to her since that conversation. Preferring someone as compromised as an unprosecuted sex offender with encroaching dementia to a loudmouth who had nonetheless got the economy going gangbusters and was doing his level best to draw down military involvement in foreign theatres was bad enough, but insisting we give the former a free pass on his shortcomings while the latter had been vilified for years told me what I need to know. I wasn't even attempting to approach it from from a comparison perspective, more of a "this is the last guy you should be running", but she had her boogeyman and to her it was such an existential threat that the dems could have run Satan himself.

Not that I equate Biden with Satan... he's more of a Beelzebozo really.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 08, 2023, 11:10:21 AM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 08, 2023, 10:53:36 AMi get the feeling that mimi 'mostly' tolerates people like me.  i'm a necessary evil so that the people she does like have a place to chat together. god forbid someone like me gets involved in one of those threads.
As I have said before, people post for different reasons. I originally came from Topix. I like lively discussions. There are posters like Joe and Edward that troll for attention. There are posters like mimi who treat this medium like social media.

All valid reasons to post. There should be tolerance for the differences in interests.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Shen Li on December 08, 2023, 04:16:53 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 07, 2023, 01:56:02 PMnow that i know how mimi feels about me and her pet monkey attacking me in every thread i think it's time to go.
That forum would be so much better if mimi would fuck off and stay fucked off.

She's a nasty, narcissistic, dim-witted hypotwat
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Dove on December 08, 2023, 05:42:49 PM
Quote from: Shen Li on December 08, 2023, 04:16:53 PMThat forum would be so much better if mimi would fuck off and stay fucked off.

She's a nasty, narcissistic, dim-witted hypotwat

 Should I go start shit with her for fun?
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 08, 2023, 06:16:34 PM
it's the most excitement memebee has had for months.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 08, 2023, 06:34:51 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 08, 2023, 06:16:34 PMit's the most excitement memebee has had for months.
Jesus, what else do they do for fun? Paint their tabletop miniature collection of Monopoly pieces?
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 08, 2023, 07:20:46 PM
i feel bad for dsm. he single-handedly keeps the place alive.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 08, 2023, 08:12:25 PM
Quote from: Dove on December 08, 2023, 05:42:49 PMShould I go start shit with her for fun?

Mimi is moron.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 08, 2023, 11:13:00 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 08, 2023, 07:20:46 PMi feel bad for dsm. he single-handedly keeps the place alive.
I forgot my password there, so I can't post, but I agree with that. Take away old dsm and there aint much to keep folks with half a brain around. That stunned cunt asal aint a draw.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Shen Li on December 09, 2023, 12:18:32 AM
Quote from: Dove on December 08, 2023, 05:42:49 PMShould I go start shit with her for fun?
She would quickly accuse of character flaws that are so obvious in herself.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 09, 2023, 12:15:08 PM
i'm sure she'll say i was the one trolling.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 09, 2023, 12:22:52 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 09, 2023, 12:15:08 PMi'm sure she'll say i was the one trolling.
Have you been on VF from it's genesis?
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 09, 2023, 12:47:00 PM
yeah but i was there for evs mostly.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 09, 2023, 12:59:16 PM
looks like i caused a bit of chaos over there. now we can finally see how people really feel.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: deadskinmask on December 09, 2023, 01:50:22 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 09, 2023, 12:59:16 PMlooks like i caused a bit of chaos over there. now we can finally see how people really feel.

are you "for really real" gone? or are you just big mad and need a minute? because this is sucks, buddy....
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: formosan on December 09, 2023, 01:50:57 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 09, 2023, 12:47:00 PMyeah but i was there for evs mostly.
evs is a wonderful lady..

I took a look at VF this morning.....evs doesn't post that frequently anymore.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: deadskinmask on December 09, 2023, 01:58:41 PM
evs hasn't been a regular poster for quite some time now.... she says she reads it everyday and i have no reason to doubt her.... but she rarely posts....
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: formosan on December 09, 2023, 02:10:19 PM
Quote from: deadskinmask on December 09, 2023, 01:58:41 PMevs hasn't been a regular poster for quite some time now.... she says she reads it everyday and i have no reason to doubt her.... but she rarely posts....
Oh, I thought it was just recently she's been posting less.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: deadskinmask on December 09, 2023, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: formosan on December 09, 2023, 02:10:19 PMOh, I thought it was just recently she's been posting less.

no, shes been slowly backing out since covid ended.... i doubt shes "leaving" though.... i hope shes just taking a much needed break....
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: formosan on December 09, 2023, 02:37:42 PM
Quote from: deadskinmask on December 09, 2023, 02:20:01 PMno, shes been slowly backing out since covid ended.... i doubt shes "leaving" though.... i hope shes just taking a much needed break....
Unless one is Edward, we all need breaks from time to time deadskinmask.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: deadskinmask on December 09, 2023, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: formosan on December 09, 2023, 02:37:42 PMUnless one is Edward, we all need breaks from time to time deadskinmask.

you're telling me.... i've been "retiring from forums" for the last 10 years....  :crampe:
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 09, 2023, 04:33:24 PM
Quote from: formosan on December 09, 2023, 02:37:42 PMUnless one is Edward, we all need breaks from time to time deadskinmask.
I took a long break from this forum. I am having fun posting again.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 09, 2023, 06:11:41 PM
a long break from memebee might do me some good. it's been stale for awhile now.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Biggie Smiles on December 09, 2023, 08:52:46 PM
Doesn't look like they really want new blood there
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 10, 2023, 12:34:08 AM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 09, 2023, 12:47:00 PMyeah but i was there for evs mostly.
She seems alright.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 10, 2023, 12:35:23 AM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 09, 2023, 08:52:46 PMDoesn't look like they really want new blood there
I noticed that too.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 12:52:08 AM
i still don't get why mel gibson was banned all the time.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 10, 2023, 01:02:51 AM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 09, 2023, 12:59:16 PMlooks like i caused a bit of chaos over there. now we can finally see how people really feel.

Well, you did encourage Weebs to spam videos even more than he already did.

Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 10, 2023, 01:05:14 AM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 12:52:08 AMi still don't get why mel gibson was banned all the time.
Wasn't it because old Mel and mimi don't see eye to eye?
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 10, 2023, 01:06:19 AM
Quote from: Frood on December 10, 2023, 01:02:51 AMWell, you did encourage Weebs to spam videos even more than he already did.


Is that frickin junkie still doing that. He is forum AIDS.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 10, 2023, 01:08:08 AM
Quote from: Herman on December 10, 2023, 01:06:19 AMIs that frickin junkie still doing that. He is forum AIDS.

Soon was like "MOARRRR@@!@!".

And memebeeians were like "go fuck yourself, Soon!!!"
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 01:08:50 AM
i also invited weebs to post music videos over here but so far he hasn't.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 10, 2023, 01:10:25 AM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 01:08:50 AMi also invited weebs to post music videos over here but so far he hasn't.

Fuck around and find out....
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 01:15:52 AM
well, i had a feeling he was staying away for a reason.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 10, 2023, 01:21:53 AM
Spammers get treated like spammers here...
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 01:23:01 AM
the problem with recovery is you need to stay away from the things that made you need it in the first place. which probably means weebs shouldn't bee online.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 10, 2023, 01:23:23 AM
Quote from: Frood on December 10, 2023, 01:08:08 AMSoon was like "MOARRRR@@!@!".

And memebeeians were like "go fuck yourself, Soon!!!"
There aint much else to read at VF. But, he was doing that here and screwing up good threads.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 01:23:59 AM
it feels like you're encouraging me to spam.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 01:24:54 AM
it was probably the fafo thing.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 10, 2023, 01:25:05 AM
That Oscar prog faggot is a youtube spammer too.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 10, 2023, 01:26:09 AM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 01:23:59 AMit feels like you're encouraging me to spam.

We're encouraging you to not be a douche bag.

Are we getting it through your thick and fake troll skull yet?
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 10, 2023, 01:27:21 AM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 01:23:59 AMit feels like you're encouraging me to spam.
The owner of this place is ultra chill. He probably wouldn't say anything.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 10, 2023, 01:28:12 AM
Quote from: Frood on December 10, 2023, 01:26:09 AMWe're encouraging you to not be a douche bag.

Are we getting it through your thick and fake troll skull yet?
So far he has been alright.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 10, 2023, 01:29:40 AM
Quote from: Herman on December 10, 2023, 01:28:12 AMSo far he has been alright.

I've witnessed his M.O.

It remains to be seen whether the little shart can do better.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 10, 2023, 01:33:12 AM
Quote from: Frood on December 10, 2023, 01:29:40 AMI've witnessed his M.O.

It remains to be seen whether the little shart can do better.
I aint a mod like you. I am just highly enlightened poster. Usually when I join forums I don't like, I am hammered and cause shit right away. This Korean guy aint done shit yet.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 10, 2023, 01:34:14 AM
Quote from: Herman on December 10, 2023, 01:33:12 AMI aint a mod like you. I am just highly enlightened poster. Usually when I join forums I don't like, I am hammered and cause shit right away. This Korean guy aint done shit yet.

Not yet... but people are watching him...
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 10, 2023, 10:44:55 AM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 09, 2023, 08:52:46 PMDoesn't look like they really want new blood there
Not the owner, but that is true of the regs.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 10, 2023, 10:47:37 AM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 09, 2023, 12:47:00 PMyeah but i was there for evs mostly.
Loyalty, I can appreciate that.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Biggie Smiles on December 10, 2023, 10:56:51 AM
Quote from: DKG on December 10, 2023, 10:44:55 AMNot the owner, but that is true of the regs.

Perhaps this is the reason she backed away. Not worth arguing with the regs and no real path towards future growth beyond the current cliquish echo chamber redundancy

I quickly became bored with the place which has happened at least 3 or 4 times now over the years. never changes
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: deadskinmask on December 10, 2023, 10:57:34 AM
Quote from: DKG on December 10, 2023, 10:44:55 AMNot the owner, but that is true of the regs.

VF's formula works.... everyone there is happy (even the unhappy ones).... every time theres a "new person", they always attempt to change the water level or adjust the thermostat or just tamper all the moving parts.... evs is perfectly capable of maintaining control of the situation but the locals will always respond negatively regardless.... when it comes to "new folks", they're a suspicious bunch.... but its not unjustified....
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 10, 2023, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: deadskinmask on December 10, 2023, 10:57:34 AMVF's formula works.... everyone there is happy (even the unhappy ones).... every time theres a "new person", they always attempt to change the water level or adjust the thermostat or just tamper all the moving parts.... evs is perfectly capable of maintaining control of the situation but the locals will always respond negatively regardless.... when it comes to "new folks", they're a suspicious bunch.... but its not unjustified....
Correct me if I am wrong, but the core four or five members have been posting together for close to twenty years going back to a forum called Discover Vancouver that was pronounced dead more than a decade ago.

That same group is highly suspicious of anyone who joins. It didn't make me want to stick around. It didn't make Biggie Smiles want to stick around either.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: deadskinmask on December 10, 2023, 11:18:49 AM
Quote from: DKG on December 10, 2023, 11:10:59 AMCorrect me if I am wrong, but the core four or five members have been posting together for close to twenty years going back to a forum called Discover Vancouver that was pronounced dead more than a decade ago.

That same group is highly suspicious of anyone who joins. It didn't make me want to stick around. It didn't make Biggie Smiles want to stick around either.

its not designed to "make" ppl want to stick around.... its there and it remains there.... if you stick around, its because you decided to stick around.... i'm so conservative i make the founding fathers look like moderates.... i'm not there to be "agreed with".... i'm there because i WANT to be there and i wouldn't trade that place or the posters there (all the posters. asal and oscar and eddie included) for all the tea in china....
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 10, 2023, 11:24:46 AM
Quote from: deadskinmask on December 10, 2023, 11:18:49 AMits not designed to "make" ppl want to stick around.... its there and it remains there.... if you stick around, its because you decided to stick around.... i'm so conservative i make the founding fathers look like moderates.... i'm not there to be "agreed with".... i'm there because i WANT to be there and i wouldn't trade that place or the posters there (all the posters. asal and oscar and eddie included) for all the tea in china....
I am glad you found a posting home you like. And perhaps if I had stuck around they would even get used to my boring fiscal conservatism.

I will say this about VF. Although my presence wasn't really welcome, it is the only other forum I would ever have registered at. That is because the owner of that forum believes in free speech and a marketplace of ideas like I do. The owners of BF and CBT are the exact opposite. They abuse their panels, censor posts, and even doxx posters.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: deadskinmask on December 10, 2023, 11:31:02 AM
Quote from: DKG on December 10, 2023, 11:24:46 AMI am glad you found a posting home.

I will say this about VF. Although my presence wasn't really welcome, it is the only other forum I would ever have registered at. That is because the owner of that forum believes in free speech and a marketplace of ideas like I do. The owners of BF and CBT censor posters are the exact opposite. They abuse their panels, censor posts, and even doxx posters.

its never a case of a person "not being welcome".... negative responses more often than not are provoked.... ppl who are "internet famous" coming there as if their reputation proceeds them.... it doesn't matter who you thought you were, when you're a new person there then you're just new.... and all the "big brain" motherfuckers that come there with a list of "improvments".... throw the list away.... nobody cares....
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 10, 2023, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: deadskinmask on December 10, 2023, 11:31:02 AMits never a case of a person "not being welcome".... negative responses more often than not are provoked.... ppl who are "internet famous" coming there as if their reputation proceeds them.... it doesn't matter who you thought you were, when you're a new person there then you're just new.... and all the "big brain" motherfuckers that come there with a list of "improvments".... throw the list away.... nobody cares....
As I said, the core members are an insular group that have together for a long time. And as I also said, had I stuck around, they might have even gotten used to a boring fiscal hawk. But, I don't have the patience for that anymore.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: deadskinmask on December 10, 2023, 11:51:36 AM
Quote from: DKG on December 10, 2023, 11:49:28 AMAs I said, the core members are an insular group that have together for a long time. And as I also said, had I stuck around, they might have even gotten used to a boring fiscal hawk. But, I don't have the patience for that anymore.

you can't fault a whole forum for "lack of patience" when you admit that you suffer from the same affliction....  :crampe:
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 10, 2023, 11:54:45 AM
Quote from: deadskinmask on December 10, 2023, 11:51:36 AMyou can't fault a whole forum for "lack of patience" when you admit that you suffer from the same affliction....  :crampe:
I would not call core members not wanting their posting home to grow a lack of patience.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 11:57:30 AM
the more interesting question is who is frood to call me a troll?
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: deadskinmask on December 10, 2023, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: DKG on December 10, 2023, 11:54:45 AMI would not call core members not wanting their posting home to grow a lack of patience.

its not a matter of growing.... you can stack shit high as an elephants eye.... its still shit.... i think they're fine as they are.... if you want to be there then just be there.... if you wanna change the format, go elsewhere.... if you think someone is gonna give you a kiss every time you hook 5 words together then you came to the wrong place.... post what you post and then hang on tight because somebody is coming to knock it outta your hands....
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 12:10:53 PM
imagine my horror when i realized the majority of memebee had no idea about poetry. i was thinking what was the point of stringing words together in a poetical way.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 10, 2023, 12:28:02 PM
Quotei think they're fine as they are
If you are happy there, I am happy for you. :good:

Quoteif you want to be there then just be there.... if you wanna change the format, go elsewhere
I am not looking to change any other forum. If it's not for me, I don't register. If I am already registered, I won't stay. Nobody wants a poster hanging around who does nothing but complain.

Quoteif you think someone is gonna give you a kiss every time you hook 5 words together then you came to the wrong place
I just said the core posters are an insular group who don't really want new blood. You might some diversity, but they don't.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: deadskinmask on December 10, 2023, 12:31:51 PM
i'm fine with anything and everything.... i pay attention to what i do and let everything else do what it does.... theres no "expectation" and therefore no disappointment....
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 12:33:11 PM
i'm a fully fledged member of the philosopher poets on memebee and i ain't got anyone to talk to:(
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: deadskinmask on December 10, 2023, 12:44:31 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 12:33:11 PMi'm a fully fledged member of the philosopher poets on memebee and i ain't got anyone to talk to:(

you lack conversation because you avoid conversation.... i go outta my way to address you at least once a day.... i get that you like "lone wolfing" and i don't press you.... but i make myself available nonetheless.... and thats a hard row to hoe....
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Biggie Smiles on December 10, 2023, 12:47:06 PM
why don't pizzerias deliver anymore?

gotta fucking use that damn door dash shit.

I hate it
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: deadskinmask on December 10, 2023, 12:55:10 PM
ever since that weird "tip rebellion", i've been cautious of any type of food service.... i've seem too many gross videos of ppl spitting in food and pissing in drinks....
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 01:44:46 PM
i enjoy watching idol mukbangs once in awhile.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 10, 2023, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: deadskinmask on December 10, 2023, 11:31:02 AMits never a case of a person "not being welcome".... negative responses more often than not are provoked.... ppl who are "internet famous" coming there as if their reputation proceeds them.... it doesn't matter who you thought you were, when you're a new person there then you're just new.... and all the "big brain" motherfuckers that come there with a list of "improvments".... throw the list away.... nobody cares....
I wish that were the case, every new registration I've made at a new board over the years has been replete with people trying to find out who the fuck I was, mostly assuming I must be someone they've previously had issues with. It's not that people don't care, some are downright obsessed with manifesting their boogeymen onto a new user.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 10, 2023, 05:09:58 PM
that sounds a little like frood and me.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Biggie Smiles on December 10, 2023, 07:06:13 PM
Remember that time some of the locals went completely bat shit crazy because someone called mimi an American?

these people didn't know whether to shit themselves, go blind or murder their entire families in a fit of epic rage

and then seamajor (of all people) had to come along and gently guide them through the concepts of north American geography

that shit was hysterical
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Shen Li on December 10, 2023, 07:17:25 PM
Quote from: DKG on December 10, 2023, 11:54:45 AMI would not call core members not wanting their posting home to grow a lack of patience.
Of course not. I joined VF 13 years ago. I was even a member of DV that VF broke away from for a few months before that.

Skinz wasn't around when VF was a lively board. I'm talking about posters like Gunta, Duce, Salty Dog, Spartacus, YVR Man, Glasgogirl, Asia, Wulf, CJ, Dick Yamada, Doc Watson, KS Ethan, Brutus, Zero Cool, Kaylee 7, Sharlee, Itsy Bitsy, beanthere, Renee, Sonny, Inked Angel, eagle, Ban Pellgrino and Heinzy. They were all good and they are all gone.

Let's face it, the good posters left and they aren't being replaced. The ones that should've fucked off like that deranged offline stalker Eddie and Mimi who uses forums the way old white do FB are still around. Personally, I would've pulled the plug on it. It seems Evs is just doing it to keep Eddie occupied and out of jail and so Mimi can post smilies with her remaining 2-3 forum friends.

VF hasn't had a new regular poster in at least 5 years. When the pin is finally pulled on VF, that will be the most obvious fact in the post mortem.

Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 11, 2023, 08:29:29 AM
Quote from: Shen Li on December 10, 2023, 07:17:25 PMOf course not. I joined VF 13 years ago. I was even a member of DV that VF broke away from for a few months before that.

Skinz wasn't around when VF was a lively board. I'm talking about posters like Gunta, Duce, Salty Dog, Spartacus, YVR Man, Glasgogirl, Asia, Wulf, CJ, Dick Yamada, Doc Watson, KS Ethan, Brutus, Zero Cool, Kaylee 7, Sharlee, Itsy Bitsy, beanthere, Renee, Sonny, Inked Angel, eagle, Ban Pellgrino and Heinzy. They were all good and they are all gone.

Let's face it, the good posters left and they aren't being replaced. The ones that should've fucked off like that deranged offline stalker Eddie and Mimi who uses forums the way old white do FB are still around. Personally, I would've pulled the plug on it. It seems Evs is just doing it to keep Eddie occupied and out of jail and so Mimi can post smilies with her remaining 2-3 forum friends.

VF hasn't had a new regular poster in at least 5 years. When the pin is finally pulled on VF, that will be the most obvious fact in the post mortem.


I only registered recently, but I have seen it dwindle from a busy board to a handful of regulars too. But, if those who remain are happy with that, who are we to judge. That is sort of what dsm is saying. But, I strongly suspect the owner of VF would like it to be less cliquey and busier than it is.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: deadskinmask on December 11, 2023, 08:51:14 AM
i'm sure evs would love a busy board.... but forums are dying in general.... most ppl no longer post for the simple reason of expression.... they post for "likes" and "emojis" .... boards that don't offer these little dopamine fixes are rapidly losing support.... why spill your soul out in a post that maybe 15 ppl will see when you can write "Trump sucks" on reddit and get 5k "likes"? forums are an antiquated medium and we are in its last days.... VF is a very niche group and will remain that way until it no longer remains.... some ppl like it.... some ppl don't.... at least most of you had the opportunity to decide which category you belong in.... its not for everybody.... but everybody is equally welcome....
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 11, 2023, 08:57:06 AM
Quote from: deadskinmask on December 11, 2023, 08:51:14 AMi'm sure evs would love a busy board.... but forums are dying in general.... most ppl no longer post for the simple reason of expression.... they post for "likes" and "emojis" .... boards that don't offer these little dopamine fixes are rapidly losing support.... why spill your soul out in a post that maybe 15 ppl will see when you can write "Trump sucks" on reddit and get 5k "likes"? forums are an antiquated medium and we are in its last days.... VF is a very niche group and will remain that way until it no longer remains.... some ppl like it.... some ppl don't.... at least most of you had the opportunity to decide which category you belong in.... its not for everybody.... but everybody is equally welcome....
Good morning to you sir.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: deadskinmask on December 11, 2023, 09:05:04 AM
good morning to you as well.... what ya doing today? diversifying your portfolio? shorting your ukraine stocks? lol.... i'm gonna feed some pigs and chase a rooster....
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 01:37:09 PM
this time last year i was watching the shorts taking tesla down to $100. it was fun.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: formosan on December 11, 2023, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 01:37:09 PMthis time last year i was watching the shorts taking tesla down to $100. it was fun.
I gather you don't own Tesla stock koreaboo, lol.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Biggie Smiles on December 11, 2023, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 01:37:09 PMthis time last year i was watching the shorts taking tesla down to $100. it was fun.

nothing beat reddit fucking over the boiler room scammer motherfuckers on gamestop tho

Them hedge fund managers were jumping out of windows until the Biden Mafia stepped in and threw their support behind wall street

so much for "taxing the rich" eh?

hypocrite motherfucking scumbag democrat sub human filth
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 06:07:50 PM
the shorts have a long history with tesla. elon whined forever which is what made it so satisfying when they took him down. through elon's own hubris no less. it was classic.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 11, 2023, 06:10:07 PM
We get it, Soon... you don't like success or liberty.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 06:15:09 PM
elon is making his living off government subsidies. i don't understand why you people support corporate welfare.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 11, 2023, 06:17:58 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 11, 2023, 04:44:42 PMnothing beat reddit fucking over the boiler room scammer motherfuckers on gamestop tho

Them hedge fund managers were jumping out of windows until the Biden Mafia stepped in and threw their support behind wall street

so much for "taxing the rich" eh?

hypocrite motherfucking scumbag democrat sub human filth
Do any Americans believe the Democrats when they feign support for the working class? I used to vote NDP, but like the Democrats they put blue collar workers in their sites. They are a party for upper class urban progressives only-just like the Democrats.

I liked that manipulation. The new left were quick to bail out their progressive elite donors.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 06:19:33 PM
elon is about to have his ass handed to him in china so there's that.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 11, 2023, 06:20:41 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 06:15:09 PMelon is making his living off government subsidies. i don't understand why you people support corporate welfare.
Electric cars would not exist without corporate welfare. I am 110 percent against all corporate welfare. Which poster here supports corporate welfare? I want to know so I can put them on ignore.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 11, 2023, 06:22:03 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 06:15:09 PMelon is making his living off government subsidies. i don't understand why you people support corporate welfare.

That's a Reason.com garbage talking point.

Tax cuts and the like in the industries he's in are commonplace and often pushed by your leftist douchebag hero's in infrastructure bills.

Don't blame Musk for accepting what was offered. He would have been a fool to reject it.

Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 11, 2023, 06:23:01 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 06:19:33 PMelon is about to have his ass handed to him in china so there's that.
I hate billionaires. The only thing that makes Elon Musk partially acceptable is that he took Twitter out of the control of the Democratic party. It is no longer their propaganda arm and that makes me happy.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Biggie Smiles on December 11, 2023, 06:24:09 PM
Quote from: Brent on December 11, 2023, 06:20:41 PMElectric cars would not exist without corporate welfare. I am 110 percent against all corporate welfare. Which poster here supports corporate welfare? I want to know so I can put them on ignore.

During the last hurricane here in florida you should have seen the idiots who owned Tesla's freaking out because they had no way to charge those pieces of shit to take their asses out of that libtard shithole also known as fort myers

it was hysterical

even more hysterical is the fact that those things were like radioactive bombs once the storm flooded the whole area.

worthless garbage sold to retards
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 11, 2023, 06:27:31 PM
I laughed my arse off watching video footage of dozens of storm surged electric cars aflame and fire-fighters trying to put them out with water...  :crampe:

I was like... yup... this is how humanity is going to go... all in the matter of days.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 11, 2023, 06:27:44 PM
Quote from: Frood on December 11, 2023, 06:22:03 PMThat's a Reason.com garbage talking point.

Tax cuts and the like in the industries he's in are commonplace and often pushed by your leftist douchebag hero's in infrastructure bills.

Don't blame Musk for accepting what was offered. He would have been a fool to reject it.


I am a socialist, but how are tax write offs for investments corporate welfare? It's our money through our investments and pensions. Taxing them more means less money in our senior years and who wants to end up a penniless loser like Joe.


Corporate welfare is subsidizing companies directly. Wind and solar would not exist without corporate welfare. In Canada, the media is another westeland for corporate welfare. Big pharma too.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 11, 2023, 06:28:52 PM
Quote from: Brent on December 11, 2023, 06:27:44 PMI am a socialist, but how are tax write offs for investments corporate welfare? It's our money through our investments and pensions. Taxing them more means less money in our senior years and who wants to end up a penniless loser like Joe.


Corporate welfare is subsidizing companies. Wind and solar would not exist without corporate welfare. In Canada, the media is another westeland for corporate welfare.

I loath socialists.

Don't talk at me ever again.

Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 11, 2023, 06:30:29 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 11, 2023, 06:24:09 PMDuring the last hurricane here in florida you should have seen the idiots who owned Tesla's freaking out because they had no way to charge those pieces of shit to take their asses out of that libtard shithole also known as fort myers

it was hysterical

even more hysterical is the fact that those things were like radioactive bombs once the storm flooded the whole area.

worthless garbage sold to retards
Just Teslas or all electric cars. My wife and I are thinking about an electric car when we move to Panama.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Lokmar on December 11, 2023, 06:34:10 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 06:15:09 PMelon is making his living off government subsidies. i don't understand why you people support corporate welfare.

We dont, generally speaking. However, the government comes in and passes all these regulations taking money from corporations, then they offer "corporate welfare" in return which corporations have to take in order to stay competitive. Its a soft version of Nazi Fascism. Now the government controls the corporations and the people, incapable of realizing how the system works, hate the corporations and implore the government to make corporations "pay their fair share". Rinse, repeat. The truth is, corporate welfare doesnt exist. The government took the money they give out ITFP.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 06:38:15 PM
i take it you didn't buy the 'founders edition' cybertruck.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Lokmar on December 11, 2023, 06:40:50 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 06:38:15 PMi take it you didn't buy the 'founders edition' cybertruck.

Me? No. I bought a ZL1-1LE that came with a $2100 gas guzzler tax extorted from me so the gubmints could piss it away on a pet project....which proves my former point. The government doesnt give away ANYTHING that it doesnt steal FIRST! The government should be overthrown. Corporations arent the problem.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 11, 2023, 06:41:51 PM
I once tried a cybertruck...

It wanted my age verified and a valid credit card.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Lokmar on December 11, 2023, 06:45:28 PM
BTW, I always let it idle for earth hour.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 06:49:30 PM
i can't stop asking myself why elon had to make the cybertruck so ugly.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 11, 2023, 06:51:06 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 06:49:30 PMi can't stop asking myself why elon had to make the cybertruck so ugly.
Ask his prog money puppeteers.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Biggie Smiles on December 11, 2023, 06:53:47 PM
Quote from: Brent on December 11, 2023, 06:30:29 PMJust Teslas or all electric cars. My wife and I are thinking about an electric car when we move to Panama.

All of them are shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYiB82UwS3o&t=620s
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Lokmar on December 11, 2023, 06:55:20 PM
Quote from: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 06:49:30 PMi can't stop asking myself why elon had to make the cybertruck so ugly.

One thing about him, he's a big fan of old Sci-Fi. I wouldnt be surprised if he modeled it after something from a movie like Logans Run. I wouldnt own one. I love gas guzzling carbon polluters. I even cut the cats off, tune em for E-85 (food), and swap cams to give em more horsepower! Unlike electric trash, ICE has character.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 11, 2023, 06:55:55 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 11, 2023, 06:53:47 PMAll of them are shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYiB82UwS3o&t=620s
This is a good video. :thumbup2:
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Lokmar on December 11, 2023, 06:59:24 PM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 11, 2023, 06:53:47 PMAll of them are shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYiB82UwS3o&t=620s
An electric car is a novelty. Seriously, its like a toy car. It's fun, you can program the turn signals to make fart noises when you use them, they're thrilling to stomp to the floor, but eventually, they get boring AF. They dont have any soul.

Maybe the worst part about them though is nobody considers the loss of power that goes into them, even if they run on green energy. If they get powered by fossil fuels, thats an EPIC waste. Better to burn gasoline in an ICE.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: koreaboo on December 11, 2023, 07:00:22 PM
the delorian was another winner in the ill-fated stainless steel sweepstakes.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 12, 2023, 03:36:56 AM
Both EVs and ICE's cause pollution, no matter which way you slice it. Calling one "green" because the pollution is happening somewhere other than the vehicle just doesn't cut it. And that's before we consider the exorbitant parts and service costs (to say nothing of the disposal of the waste) of the so-called "green" alternative.

But hey, if you get high off huffing your own farts, then go for it. Just don't bullshit the rest of us into saying your shit doesn't stink because *newsflash* some of us know it stinks to high heaven. Dribbling on about a one degree rise in global temperatues and pretending you're somehow having a positive effect towards negating it is a lie and one that (if you got your way with the mandates) will ultimately cost everyone... even you... your mobility when it is finally admitted to be the self same bastards who would ensure you spent 50K when it runs out of warranty anyway.

Verdict in favour of internal combustion. Next case please.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Seamajor1 on December 12, 2023, 09:27:41 AM
Quote from: Brent on December 11, 2023, 06:30:29 PMJust Teslas or all electric cars. My wife and I are thinking about an electric car when we move to Panama.

Panama? I think the Darien Gap would be suitable.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 12, 2023, 12:11:26 PM
Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 12, 2023, 03:36:56 AMBoth EVs and ICE's cause pollution, no matter which way you slice it. Calling one "green" because the pollution is happening somewhere other than the vehicle just doesn't cut it. And that's before we consider the exorbitant parts and service costs (to say nothing of the disposal of the waste) of the so-called "green" alternative.

But hey, if you get high off huffing your own farts, then go for it. Just don't bullshit the rest of us into saying your shit doesn't stink because *newsflash* some of us know it stinks to high heaven. Dribbling on about a one degree rise in global temperatues and pretending you're somehow having a positive effect towards negating it is a lie and one that (if you got your way with the mandates) will ultimately cost everyone... even you... your mobility when it is finally admitted to be the self same bastards who would ensure you spent 50K when it runs out of warranty anyway.

Verdict in favour of internal combustion. Next case please.
Precisely.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 12, 2023, 03:10:11 PM
Quote from: Seamajor1 on December 12, 2023, 09:27:41 AMPanama? I think the Darien Gap would be suitable.
I am not interested in making idol chit chat with you. :s_laugh:
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Seamajor1 on December 12, 2023, 05:18:37 PM
Quote from: Brent on December 12, 2023, 03:10:11 PMI am not interested in making idol chit chat with you. :s_laugh:

Only trying to help pal. I've lived down here for 26 years. Panama? I'd rethink it. Ever had denge?  Yellow fever?
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 12, 2023, 08:31:45 PM
EVs made a some sense when they their final cost is less than $30,000 after tax & rebate but now $60,000 starting for the cheapest Tesla defeats the point of buying one even with a affordable electricity rates.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 12, 2023, 08:44:20 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 12, 2023, 08:31:45 PMEVs made a some sense when they their final cost is less than $30,000 after tax & rebate but now $60,000 starting for the cheapest Tesla defeats the point of buying one even with a affordable electricity rates.
Brother, there aint no reasonably priced vehicles anymore. Since the pandemic bullshit started, all vehicles, ICE or EV have soared in price.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 12, 2023, 08:52:21 PM
Quote from: Herman on December 12, 2023, 08:44:20 PMBrother, there aint no reasonably priced vehicles anymore. Since the pandemic bullshit started, all vehicles, ICE or EV have soared in price.

I almost forgot everything had gone up, though EVs are still a wolf in sheep clothing imo
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 12, 2023, 08:53:42 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 12, 2023, 08:52:21 PMEVs are still a wolf in sheep clothing imo.
You got that right.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 13, 2023, 03:04:20 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 12, 2023, 08:31:45 PMEVs made a some sense when they their final cost is less than $30,000 after tax & rebate but now $60,000 starting for the cheapest Tesla defeats the point of buying one even with a affordable electricity rates.

(https://scontent-bos5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/409185535_2655611064576717_350348329030958288_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p843x403&_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=3635dc&_nc_ohc=J-M3a5G_2-IAX8kZhSv&_nc_ht=scontent-bos5-1.xx&oh=00_AfBzTAXdVK_EjYy1fbw-ZzoK3U0fFMlLf1Xj6fklgyFgAg&oe=657E45F7)
This is a Tesla model Y battery. It takes up all of the space under the passenger compartment of the car.
To manufacture it you need:
--12 tons of rock for Lithium (can also be
    extracted from sea water)
-- 5 tons of cobalt minerals (Most cobalt is made as a byproduct of the processing of copper and nickel ores. It is the most difficult material to obtain for a battery and the most expensive.)
-- 3 tons nickel ore
-- 12 tons of copper ore
You must move 250 tons of soil to obtain:
-- 26.5 pounds of Lithium
-- 30 pounds of nickel
-- 48.5 pounds of manganese
-- 15 pounds of cobalt
To manufacture the battery also requires:
-- 441 pounds of aluminum, steel and/or plastic
-- 112 pounds of graphite
The Caterpillar 994A is used for the earthmoving to obtain the essential minerals. It consumes 264 gallons of diesel in 12 hours.
Finally you get a "zero emissions" car.
Presently, the bulk of the necessary minerals for manufacturing the batteries come from China or Africa. Much of the labor for getting the minerals in Africa is done by children! If we buy electric cars, it's China who profits most!
BTW, this 2021 Tesla Model Y OEM battery (the cheapest Tesla battery) is currently for sale on the Internet for $4,999 not including shipping or installation. The battery weighs 1,000 pounds (you can imagine the shipping cost). The cost of Tesla batteries is:
Model 3 -- $14,000  (Car MSRP $38,990)
Model Y -- $5,000–$5,500 (Car MSRP $47,740)
Model S -- $13,000–$20,000 (Car MSRP $74,990)
Model X -- $13,000  (Car MSRP $79,990)
It takes SEVEN years for an electric car to reach net-zero CO2. The life expectancy of the batteries is 10 years (average). Only in the last three years do you begin to reduce your carbon footprint. Then the batteries have to be replacement and you lose all the gains you made in those three years."
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 13, 2023, 07:57:34 PM
Quote from: Brent on December 13, 2023, 03:04:20 PM(https://scontent-bos5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/409185535_2655611064576717_350348329030958288_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p843x403&_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=3635dc&_nc_ohc=J-M3a5G_2-IAX8kZhSv&_nc_ht=scontent-bos5-1.xx&oh=00_AfBzTAXdVK_EjYy1fbw-ZzoK3U0fFMlLf1Xj6fklgyFgAg&oe=657E45F7)
This is a Tesla model Y battery. It takes up all of the space under the passenger compartment of the car.
To manufacture it you need:
--12 tons of rock for Lithium (can also be
    extracted from sea water)
-- 5 tons of cobalt minerals (Most cobalt is made as a byproduct of the processing of copper and nickel ores. It is the most difficult material to obtain for a battery and the most expensive.)
-- 3 tons nickel ore
-- 12 tons of copper ore
You must move 250 tons of soil to obtain:
-- 26.5 pounds of Lithium
-- 30 pounds of nickel
-- 48.5 pounds of manganese
-- 15 pounds of cobalt
To manufacture the battery also requires:
-- 441 pounds of aluminum, steel and/or plastic
-- 112 pounds of graphite
The Caterpillar 994A is used for the earthmoving to obtain the essential minerals. It consumes 264 gallons of diesel in 12 hours.
Finally you get a "zero emissions" car.
Presently, the bulk of the necessary minerals for manufacturing the batteries come from China or Africa. Much of the labor for getting the minerals in Africa is done by children! If we buy electric cars, it's China who profits most!
BTW, this 2021 Tesla Model Y OEM battery (the cheapest Tesla battery) is currently for sale on the Internet for $4,999 not including shipping or installation. The battery weighs 1,000 pounds (you can imagine the shipping cost). The cost of Tesla batteries is:
Model 3 -- $14,000  (Car MSRP $38,990)
Model Y -- $5,000–$5,500 (Car MSRP $47,740)
Model S -- $13,000–$20,000 (Car MSRP $74,990)
Model X -- $13,000  (Car MSRP $79,990)
It takes SEVEN years for an electric car to reach net-zero CO2. The life expectancy of the batteries is 10 years (average). Only in the last three years do you begin to reduce your carbon footprint. Then the batteries have to be replacement and you lose all the gains you made in those three years."

This is the first time in my life to ever be disturbed by solid facts and data... and I'd say an EV will never balance out or reach net zero emission if we take powerplants, battery disposal, and other reasons into account.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 13, 2023, 10:27:38 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 13, 2023, 07:57:34 PMThis is the first time in my life to ever be disturbed by solid facts and data... and I'd say an EV will never balance out or reach net zero emission if we take powerplants, battery disposal, and other reasons into account.
A hell of a lot of resources go into those damned things. And progtards think they are sustainable. Not frickin likely.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 14, 2023, 02:34:52 PM
Quote from: Herman on December 13, 2023, 10:27:38 PMA hell of a lot of resources go into those damned things. And progtards think they are sustainable. Not frickin likely.

Japanese car companies were smart at first for not buying into the EV garbage.  Though now I heard they're making EVs with solid state batteries in order to compete with Tesla.  :bored:
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Shen Li on December 14, 2023, 04:08:21 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 14, 2023, 02:34:52 PMJapanese car companies were smart at first for not buying into the EV garbage.  Though now I heard they're making EVs with solid state batteries in order to compete with Tesla.  :bored:
Zetsu, I believe you had a Honda Civic? Do you still own it?
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 14, 2023, 05:10:29 PM
Quote from: Shen Li on December 14, 2023, 04:08:21 PMZetsu, I believe you had a Honda Civic? Do you still own it?

Yea, I still have it with me as a back up car, lol.  The engine runs like new after 15 years of driving, sadly the car's hybrid battery is losing it's charge despite already been swapped on the 7th year, lol.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 14, 2023, 06:58:51 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 13, 2023, 07:57:34 PMThis is the first time in my life to ever be disturbed by solid facts and data... and I'd say an EV will never balance out or reach net zero emission if we take powerplants, battery disposal, and other reasons into account.
That is one car. Idiots like Trudeau think this will replace internal combustion engine vehicles. I don't think so unless progressives are certian they can colonize five more planets and deplete their resources.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 14, 2023, 10:52:12 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 14, 2023, 02:34:52 PMJapanese car companies were smart at first for not buying into the EV garbage.  Though now I heard they're making EVs with solid state batteries in order to compete with Tesla.  :bored:
I think it was the CEO of Toyota who said to put the brakes on the push for EV's.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Shen Li on December 16, 2023, 12:47:26 AM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 14, 2023, 05:10:29 PMYea, I still have it with me as a back up car, lol.  The engine runs like new after 15 years of driving, sadly the car's hybrid battery is losing it's charge despite already been swapped on the 7th year, lol.
That is still nothing to complain about.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Shen Li on December 16, 2023, 12:48:47 AM
Soon, I dom't think Mel will ever return to these micro forums. He might make a guest appearance or two, but I would imagine 4chan is his posting home now.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 17, 2023, 09:37:00 AM
Quote from: Brent on December 14, 2023, 06:58:51 PMThat is one car. Idiots like Trudeau think this will replace internal combustion engine vehicles. I don't think so unless progressives are certian they can colonize five more planets and deplete their resources.

I couldn't agree enough too, been starting to get more black outs in my neighborhood lately and sadly getting worst...
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 17, 2023, 09:41:31 AM
Quote from: Herman on December 14, 2023, 10:52:12 PMI think it was the CEO of Toyota who said to put the brakes on the push for EV's.

I like the Japanese's thinking, including their politicians too.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 17, 2023, 09:55:57 AM
Quote from: Shen Li on December 16, 2023, 12:47:26 AMThat is still nothing to complain about.

It's a pretty good car, though the condition of the hybrid battery does kind of question EV's reliability.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 17, 2023, 11:52:11 AM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 17, 2023, 09:55:57 AMIt's a pretty good car, though the condition of the hybrid battery does kind of question EV's reliability.
You bought a hybrid? When?
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 17, 2023, 11:54:45 AM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 17, 2023, 09:41:31 AMI like the Japanese's thinking, including their politicians too.
There is a strong green movement in Japan, but it is pragmatic. Our green movement is controlled by marxists.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 17, 2023, 11:56:09 AM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 17, 2023, 09:37:00 AMI couldn't agree enough too, been starting to get more black outs in my neighborhood lately and sadly getting worst...
And you live in Toronto. Think of the hinterlands.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 17, 2023, 02:33:41 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 17, 2023, 09:37:00 AMI couldn't agree enough too, been starting to get more black outs in my neighborhood lately and sadly getting worst...
They don't last long, but there are more power outages now compared to about twenty years ago.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 17, 2023, 09:27:37 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 17, 2023, 09:41:31 AMI like the Japanese's thinking, including their politicians too.
I like Japanese gals. They are kinky.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 20, 2023, 05:23:33 PM
Quote from: DKG on December 17, 2023, 11:52:11 AMYou bought a hybrid? When?

I bought it in 2008 during the gas crisis, before I was driving my parent's old jeep grand cherokee and couldn't stand paying over $90 each time at the pump, lol.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 20, 2023, 05:27:34 PM
Quote from: DKG on December 17, 2023, 11:54:45 AMThere is a strong green movement in Japan, but it is pragmatic. Our green movement is controlled by marxists.

Even Japan's most right wing government 20 years ago seem more sensible than Justin Trudeau.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 20, 2023, 05:40:53 PM
Quote from: Brent on December 17, 2023, 02:33:41 PMThey don't last long, but there are more power outages now compared to about twenty years ago.

I don't mind them much, but being a person that love desktop PCs to upgrading $8000 worth of electronic gadgets on a saltwater fish tank is something I need to consider about, lol.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Biggie Smiles on December 20, 2023, 05:51:54 PM
So did this guy ever leave meembee ?
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 20, 2023, 05:57:50 PM
Quote from: Herman on December 17, 2023, 09:27:37 PMI like Japanese gals. They are kinky.

I concur brother, life is not the same without Japanese women, lol.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 20, 2023, 06:49:05 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 20, 2023, 05:27:34 PMEven Japan's most right wing government 20 years ago seem more sensible than Justin Trudeau.
The Japanese right has balls.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 20, 2023, 07:43:02 PM
Quote from: Brent on December 20, 2023, 06:49:05 PMThe Japanese right has balls.

There's no doubt about it, considering Japan is a nation known for having world war II military officers and generals that "decided" to even bring their coffins with them overseas, meanwhile the average person will just hope to live another day, but for the Japanese knowing death is certain from a evaluation of intelligence but still don't give a damn, it's hard not to respect them.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 20, 2023, 09:58:20 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 20, 2023, 07:43:02 PMThere's no doubt about it, considering Japan is a nation known for having world war II military officers and generals that "decided" to even bring their coffins with them overseas, meanwhile the average person will just hope to live another day, but for the Japanese knowing death certain from evaluation of intelligence but still don't give a damn, it's hard not to respect them.
I remember in the mid eighties, the Japanese PM was Yasuhiro Nakasone. He was a war criminal. A commissioned officer in the Imperial Japanese Navy. He was stationed in Indonesia. He was the first naval officer to organize and force local gals into sexual slavery known as comfort women.

Also, as pm in the eighties, he made the comment that the US cannot compete with Japan because of large populations of Blacks and Hispanics. He was a character.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 20, 2023, 10:04:49 PM
Quote from: Herman on December 20, 2023, 09:58:20 PMI remember in the mid eighties, the Japanese PM was Yasuhiro Nakasone. He was war criminal. A commissioned officer in the Imperial Japanese Navy. He was stationed in Indonesia. He was the first naval officer to organize and force local gals into sexual slavery known as comfort women.

Also, as pm in the eighties, he made the comment that the US cannot compete with Japan because of large populations of Blacks and Hispanics. He was a character.

He might not be PC, but I gotta admit he have more brain cells than the whole democrat and liberal party combined.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 20, 2023, 10:05:06 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 20, 2023, 05:57:50 PMI concur brother, life is not the same without Japanese women, lol.

They can be extremely high maintenance and judgy though. 
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Herman on December 20, 2023, 10:07:22 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 20, 2023, 10:04:49 PMHe might not be PC, but at least he had more brain cells than the whole democrat and liberal party combined.
No question about that. He spoke what was on his mind, just like I do.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 20, 2023, 10:33:30 PM
Quote from: Frood on December 20, 2023, 10:05:06 PMThey can be extremely high maintenance and judgy though. 

Lol I mean to say the ones working in the movie or red light industry, though I never dated a Japanese girl but what you say does resemble their sophisticated culture and high quality products, lol.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Frood on December 20, 2023, 11:00:05 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 20, 2023, 10:33:30 PMLol I mean to say the ones working in the movie or red light industry, though I never dated a Japanese girl but what you say does resemble their sophisticated culture and high quality products, lol.

I've never dated them either but have mates divorced from them and I've worked with a couple of young Sheila professionals fresh out of Uni.

In my own experience, they were (those two) solely focused on position and reputation... but they were inexperienced as hell and wouldn't listen to practical experiences aka past mishaps that I witnessed in my tenure in a company which  changed hands.

They (both engineering grads) were like "we need to do this/these things"...

...I was like, "it was tried. It almost killed twice. It's off the table."

And then they pulled up their "engineering" degrees... (mind you, they were 22 and 24 years old at the time, I was 28)...and told me in no uncertain terms that they were highly trained professionals and I was just a set of hands, therefore we would be be trying to cut 90-130 millimetre thick industrial mining rubber with a hand circular saw...



 :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe: 

I didn't bother trading subtle insults back at that point. I just went to the owners and said "you ever seen a carpentry circular launch out of a cut at 70 kilometres per hour and nearly decapitate or halve a person?"

20 minutes later, those young Japanese cunts were so mad, they left.... they went home "sick"...

That's very anti Japanese culture.

But... fuck em.. I tried to be delicate and supportive in the beginning... then the claws and egos came out, and I had to go John Wayne in the Quiet Man.

Bitches never forgave me after that..
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Post by: Zetsu on December 21, 2023, 12:08:07 AM
Quote from: Frood on December 20, 2023, 11:00:05 PMI've never dated them either but have mates divorced from them and I've worked with a couple of young Sheila professionals fresh out of Uni.

In my own experience, they were (those two) solely focused on position and reputation... but they were inexperienced as hell and wouldn't listen to practical experiences aka past mishaps that I witnessed in my tenure in a company which  changed hands.

They (both engineering grads) were like "we need to do this/these things"...

...I was like, "it was tried. It almost killed twice. It's off the table."

And then they pulled up their "engineering" degrees... (mind you, they were 22 and 24 years old at the time, I was 28)...and told me in no uncertain terms that they were highly trained professionals and I was just a set of hands, therefore we would be be trying to cut 90-130 millimetre thick industrial mining rubber with a hand circular saw...



 :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe:  :crampe: 

I didn't bother trading subtle insults back at that point. I just went to the owners and said "you ever seen a carpentry circular launch out of a cut at 70 kilometres per hour and nearly decapitate or halve a person?"

20 minutes later, those young Japanese cunts were so mad, they left.... they went home "sick"...

That's very anti Japanese culture.

But... fuck em.. I tried to be delicate and supportive in the beginning... then the claws and egos came out, and I had to go John Wayne in the Quiet Man.

Bitches never forgave me after that..

Sorry to hear about your experience with those 2 twats, you've saved their lives but looks like they wanted face instead instead of feeling feel grateful that no one got seriously injured. 

I have only hand saw a few about human height trees nor know much about much sawing, but when you mentioned the part they wanted to cut a big piece of rubber with a electric powered saw does kind of makes my ass a bit clenchy.

Look like they'll eventually have to learn the hard way.  Sadly Japan's peer pressure or bullying problems will never go away thanks to those 2 dumbasses, which they're better off sweeping floors or making coffee.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Shen Li on December 21, 2023, 12:08:21 AM
Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 20, 2023, 05:51:54 PMSo did this guy ever leave meembee ?
No, Soon was just passing through. He is a VF lifer. Super loyal to Evs. There's nothing wrong with that either.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: DKG on December 21, 2023, 10:22:43 AM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 20, 2023, 05:27:34 PMEven Japan's most right wing government 20 years ago seem more sensible than Justin Trudeau.
That isn't saying much though, lol.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 21, 2023, 06:51:46 PM
Quote from: DKG on December 21, 2023, 10:22:43 AMThat isn't saying much though, lol.

Lol tbh I'm not too familiar how the Japanese government runs domestically, but all I know is when it comes to dealing with the CCP and their ultra nationalist trolls, Japan does it the right way with their zero tolerance policy, lol.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 21, 2023, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 21, 2023, 06:51:46 PMLol tbh I'm not too familiar how the Japanese governments, but all I know is when it comes to dealing with the CCP and their ultra nationalist trolls, Japan does it the right way with their zero tolerance policy, lol.
I am mostly German, but mother's mother was Japanese. Born in Japan, came to Canada as kid and was interned during World War 2. I wish I knew more about that part of my heritage.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Zetsu on December 21, 2023, 08:00:55 PM
Quote from: Brent on December 21, 2023, 07:30:37 PMI am mostly German, but mother's mother was Japanese. Born in Japan, came to Canada as kid and was interned during World War 2. I wish I knew more about that part of my heritage.

You seem way more humble than Mel, knowing the fact almost everyone is pretty obsessed with Japan and Germany these days and it's hard not to.
Title: Re: i'm thinking of leaving memebee
Post by: Brent on December 21, 2023, 08:20:06 PM
Quote from: Zetsu on December 21, 2023, 08:00:55 PMYou seem way more humble than Mel, knowing the fact almost everyone is pretty obsessed with Japan and Germany these days and it's hard not to.
I am proud of my German heritage. I speak some German. I can't speak any Japanese.