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Another shooting in an American school
Started by Bricktop, February 14, 2018, 05:43:02 PM
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And the total population of the Northern Territory is around 100,000 people. Thus you ignored the most salient point; "It's a combination of factors," Mr Willis said. "Where you have a relatively small number of homicides within the context of a small population, it will give you a very high rate."
Nor does it say anywhere that these murders were perpetrated by using firearms. In fact most were perpetrated by battery, with or without weapons.
The issue we are discussing is GUN related deaths, NOT murder rates. However, given that the US murder rate by firearms is 5 times the rate of that in Australia...and the relative number in Australia is quite small, it is irrefutable that the ownership of firearms in the US is a major contributor to both people being murdered and people taking their own lives.
The myth that guns keep you safe is not reflected in the respective crime rates, either. By that logic, America should have ten times (per capita) LESS crime than Australia. But it doesn't. Its around the same.
The truth is much simpler. America has evolved as a gun and violence related culture. To Americans, the gun is a symbol of America. Americans have learned to believe possessing a gun is patriotic, and that owning a gun makes for a better country. It is a flawed and absurd concept.
And given that the number of mass killings is rising dramatically, what sort of nation will your great grandchildren live in in a hundred years time?
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So, what was a nutjob doing with an AR15 and bag full of ammunition?
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But he bought an AR15 legally.
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He wasn't allowed to buy beer.Quote from: "Bricktop"
But he bought an AR15 legally.
I've always said, if a man is old enough to go to war, he is old enough to drink. That doesnt apply to all mind you.
He wasn't allowed to buy beer.Quote from: "Bricktop"
But he bought an AR15 legally.
I've always said, if a man is old enough to go to war, he is old enough to drink. That doesnt apply to all mind you.
Not, apparently, in Florida.
Even the mad can buy guns...but I bet if he walked into a bar, he'd be asked to show ID.
It's pure, unmitigated madness.
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I read another red flag about the shooter; he was associated with a white supremacist organization.Quote from: "Fashionista"
I have heard no mention of this. I suspect it is from someone running of the mouth.
In fact, from the Tallahassee Democrat:
Local law enforcement sources have so far not found a connection between accused Parkland school shooter Nikolas Cruz and a Tallahassee-based paramilitary group.
Leon County law enforcement sources told the Tallahassee Democrat that they could not find information linking Cruz, 19, to the Republic of Florida Militia, as first reported by the group's self-proclaimed leader Jordan Jereb.
The claims to the Anti-Defamation League and The Associated Press by ROF leader Jereb, who is no stranger to Tallahassee law enforcement, set off a firestorm Thursday at about midday that Cruz was connected to the alt-right, white nationalist group.
Leon County Sheriff's Office Lt. Grady Jordan said investigative work Thursday did not yield any connections.
"We are still doing some work but we have no known ties between the ROF, Jordan Jereb or the Broward shooter," Jordan said.
As to nutcase:
Obviously he was. However there was no proof of this that I know of, so of course he would be treated like anyone else in any country. ... and the FBI days it was unable to determine who made the damning posting in his name
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PARKLAND, Fla.) — The leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz was a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee.
Jordan Jereb told The Associated Press on Thursday that his group wants Florida to become its own white ethno-state. He said his group holds "spontaneous random demonstrations" and tries not to participate in the modern world.
Jereb said he didn't know Cruz personally and that "he acted on his own behalf of what he just did and he's solely responsible for what he just did."
He also said he had "trouble with a girl" and he believed the timing of the attack, carried out on Valentine's Day, wasn't a coincidence.
Nineteen-year-old Cruz has been charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder in the shooting.
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