Covid and lock downs in a nutshell

Anonymous · August 26, 2021, 09:08:08 PM

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Employees at Delta Air Lines will have to pay a $200 per month surcharge for their company-sponsored health care plan if they aren't vaccinated against COVID-19, according to the company's top executive.

Yes, I read that.

The risk of high hospital costs is legitimately higher for the non vaxxed & / or not previously infected. It's just normal business for the insurance company to charge more for deliberate higher risk ... & especially for unnecessarily / "client controlled" higher risk of costs

Why should the vaxxed subsidize / pay for their extra costs?.... Let the antivaxxers literally put their money where their mouth is

We're still in this because of these stupid anti-vaxxers.

Anonymous · August 31, 2021, 08:19:03 AM

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Employees at Delta Air Lines will have to pay a $200 per month surcharge for their company-sponsored health care plan if they aren't vaccinated against COVID-19, according to the company's top executive.

Yes, I read that.

The risk of high hospital costs is legitimately higher for the non vaxxed & / or not previously infected. It's just normal business for the insurance company to charge more for deliberate higher risk ... & especially for unnecessarily / "client controlled" higher risk of costs

Why should the vaxxed subsidize / pay for their extra costs?.... Let the antivaxxers literally put their money where their mouth is

We're still in this because of these stupid anti-vaxxers.

About twenty per cent of new infections in Alberta are those who are fully vaccinated.....that number will rise too.

cc · August 31, 2021, 10:46:33 AM

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Employees at Delta Air Lines will have to pay a $200 per month surcharge for their company-sponsored health care plan if they aren't vaccinated against COVID-19, according to the company's top executive.

Yes, I read that.

The risk of high hospital costs is legitimately higher for the non vaxxed & / or not previously infected. It's just normal business for the insurance company to charge more for deliberate higher risk ... & especially for unnecessarily / "client controlled" higher risk of costs

Why should the vaxxed subsidize / pay for their extra costs?.... Let the antivaxxers literally put their money where their mouth is

We're still in this because of these stupid anti-vaxxers.

In main, we are in this because of these stupid anti-vaxxers. Without them we'd have the "more" normal life the unvaxxed claim to desire, far less spread = far less cases among the vaxxed, far less hospital's being taken over by unvaxxed etc.

There would still be some cases but prolly quite few and a more normal life for all

Anonymous · August 31, 2021, 01:32:39 PM

Toronto's goal is ninety percent fully vaccinated. That is lofty.

Anonymous · September 01, 2021, 09:28:10 PM

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Toronto's goal is ninety percent fully vaccinated. That is lofty.

If Ontario implements vaccine passports, it's possible.

Anonymous · September 01, 2021, 10:38:43 PM

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Toronto's goal is ninety percent fully vaccinated. That is lofty.

If Ontario implements vaccine passports, it's possible.

Every province should have passports. To hell with anti vaxxers forcing lockdowns on responsible people.

cc · September 02, 2021, 12:30:33 AM

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Every province should have passports. To hell with anti vaxxers forcing lockdowns on responsible people.

In most ways, I'm a peoples personal rights kinda person.

However ICUs are almost 90 % unvaxxed .. and that's all from 1/4 of the population

So that makes it 36 to 1 .. . 1 keeping 36 pinned down, hospitals full, business idle, people out of work etc. etc.

Fk that one I say .. . string him up by his ..... or, inject him there

Anonymous · September 02, 2021, 08:36:26 AM

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~~Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=419750 time=1630550323 user_id=2015~~
Every province should have passports. To hell with anti vaxxers forcing lockdowns on responsible people.

In most ways, I'm a peoples personal rights kinda person.

However ICUs are almost 90 % unvaxxed .. and that's all from 1/4 of the population

So that makes it 36 to 1 .. . 1 keeping 36 pinned down, hospitals full, business idle, people out of work etc. etc.

Fk that one I say .. . string him up by his ..... or, inject him there

I believe Alberta will have to implement vaccine passports.

Anonymous · September 05, 2021, 05:43:53 AM

~~Quote from: cc post_id=419758 time=1630557033 user_id=88~~
~~Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=419750 time=1630550323 user_id=2015~~
Every province should have passports. To hell with anti vaxxers forcing lockdowns on responsible people.

In most ways, I'm a peoples personal rights kinda person.

However ICUs are almost 90 % unvaxxed .. and that's all from 1/4 of the population

So that makes it 36 to 1 .. . 1 keeping 36 pinned down, hospitals full, business idle, people out of work etc. etc.

Fk that one I say .. . string him up by his ..... or, inject him there

COVID passports have to be temporary measures.

cc · September 05, 2021, 11:38:26 AM

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Employees at Delta Air Lines will have to pay a $200 per month surcharge for their company-sponsored health care plan if they aren't vaccinated against COVID-19, according to the company's top executive.

Yes, I read that.

The risk of high hospital costs is legitimately higher for the non vaxxed & / or not previously infected. It's just normal business for the insurance company to charge more for deliberate higher risk ... & especially for unnecessarily / "client controlled" higher risk of costs

Why should the vaxxed subsidize / pay for their extra costs?.... Let the antivaxxers literally put their money where their mouth is

That opens a can of worms..

Should smokers and the morbidly obese pay more for health insurance......how about senior citizens and people with pre existing conditions.

I would have done better leaving out the money side of it. My main argument is that the unvaxxed are not only affecting their own, they are keeping regulations going for everyone and to a large degree are sickening others .. at least many more that they would if vaxxed.

The vaxxed have rights too .. .and being protected from the unvaxxed is one of them

I wanted to call our resident "linkless" anti vaxxer on something he said elsewhere and I couldn't find the post.

Ontario now publishes daily reports. Unvaxxed make up ~90% of ICU patients which when considered for their % of the population (1/4) means 1/4 of population makes up 90 % of ICU and also means that unxaxxed are 36 X more likely to end up in and fill ICUs

I know it likes to throw out made up numbers without supporting them, so I'm just I'm being helpful to a fault

https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data">https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data

Clearly they are not only the main cause of spread by a wide margin, they are the ones over-filling hospitals and ICUs as well as fking everything all up for all of us - Without them we would not have the case numbers & full hospitals to require heavy regulations, passports etc etc etc

Anonymous · September 05, 2021, 03:24:05 PM

What percentage of the population needs to be vaxxed before we return to normal?

cc · September 05, 2021, 04:52:12 PM

I cannot answer that .. best I can say is more is better

Actually, despite all the manufactured "herd" fantasy crapola, so long as any are unvaxxed we will have it with us

Anonymous · September 05, 2021, 04:58:47 PM

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What percentage of the population needs to be vaxxed before we return to normal?

It keeps getting higher.

Anonymous · September 05, 2021, 06:10:07 PM

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What percentage of the population needs to be vaxxed before we return to normal?

If we had 95 percent of the population vaccinated , we would still have cases.

Anonymous · September 06, 2021, 01:04:40 PM

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An Australian man uploaded a video from his COVID 'hotel' room with the sounds of a prisoner screaming to be let out after hundreds of hours being cooped up inside a small room.

The man, who seems to be having a mental breakdown, is demanding to be let out only to be told to get back inside or face being gassed.

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