Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 21, 2023, 11:41:28 AMFor a side that got 81 million votes on the last go around libtards are sure as hell terrified of a rematch

One has to wonder why that is

COVID-23? Whut ?

BULLSEYE!!

Quote from: Shen Li on December 21, 2023, 03:23:11 PMIf most Democrat voters weren't lapdogs for typrants they would never accept a second Biden term that was "won" by a rule meant to expel separatist rebels from politics after the U.S. Civil War. It's now being used to deprive tens of millions of Americans from voting for the candidate of their choice. Gawd help the USA if the Supreme Court doesn't overrule the Colorado court.

100 bucks says every low life scumbag leftist on the SCOTUS votes right alongside the democrat narrotive like the spineless pieces of subhuman garbage they are

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 21, 2023, 03:26:03 PM100 bucks says every low life scumbag leftist on the SCOTUS votes right alongside the democrat narrotive like the spineless pieces of subhuman garbage they are

Biggz, I might as well just hand over 100 bucks to you because there is no way I would win that bet.

If 75 million or more Americans are denied their right to cast a vote for the candidate of their choice, there could be an unofficial civil war.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 21, 2023, 03:26:03 PM100 bucks says every low life scumbag leftist on the SCOTUS votes right alongside the democrat narrotive like the spineless pieces of subhuman garbage they are

I'm not saying that can't happen but it really shouldn't.
The Colorado judgement basically convicted Donny of sedition/insurrection/whatever without a trial in order to reach the decision it did and not even the holy relic of "states' rights" is big enough to cover their asses for that fuckup.

Unless things are even more broken than I presume them to be (and that's all kinds of broken) there's just no way to uphold the Colorado ruling and expect to retain a shred of legitimacy. Maybe the entire SC is beyond caring about legitimacy but if so they're hiding it fairly well so far.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on December 21, 2023, 05:03:04 PMI'm not saying that can't happen but it really shouldn't.
The Colorado judgement basically convicted Donny of sedition/insurrection/whatever without a trial in order to reach the decision it did and not even the holy relic of "states' rights" is big enough to cover their asses for that fuckup.

Unless things are even more broken than I presume them to be (and that's all kinds of broken) there's just no way to uphold the Colorado ruling and expect to retain a shred of legitimacy. Maybe the entire SC is beyond caring about legitimacy but if so they're hiding it fairly well so far.

you're absolutely right it shouldn't

but 100 out of 100 times I've every stinking rodent democrat on that court vote with whatever the existing democrat narrative happens to be

100 out of 100 times. Across all the various personalities and timeframes.

The basic principles of probability tell you there's something deliberate about that.

At least, for all of his faults, Roberts can break away from the commonly held conservative consensus when he truly believes it is contrary to the constitution. I can totally respect that. Even when I don't like or agree with it.

I didn't like when Mike Pence refused to ride with Trump's bonehead idea about him having the power to decertify the election and stop an incoming president (which on its face is a fucking ludicrous notion) but I happened to agree with him and never once disparaged him for what he did on that day. He did what he believed was right and it was right and like it or not I can live with that. 

libtards NEVER do that. I haven't seen, in the last 20 years, a diehard democrat stand up against their own party for what is right. Only a spineless and jellyfish adherence to whatever propaganda those vile parasites are pushing

they are fucking cowardly scum and that is what I hate most about each and every one of them and I spit on any service they believe they've provided this country. They've undone all of that with this betrayal of the very principles we hold dear.

Quote from: Garraty_47 on December 21, 2023, 05:03:04 PMI'm not saying that can't happen but it really shouldn't.
The Colorado judgement basically convicted Donny of sedition/insurrection/whatever without a trial in order to reach the decision it did and not even the holy relic of "states' rights" is big enough to cover their asses for that fuckup.

Unless things are even more broken than I presume them to be (and that's all kinds of broken) there's just no way to uphold the Colorado ruling and expect to retain a shred of legitimacy. Maybe the entire SC is beyond caring about legitimacy but if so they're hiding it fairly well so far.

What do you expect to happen next and when? Will the Supreme Court here the case quick like they did in 2000 with Biden and Gore and the Florida counting dispute?

I did a search looking for likely outcomes of the Colorado decision. I found this.

A former U.S. Supreme Court law clerk claimed Wednesday that the high court will likely rule against the Colorado Supreme Court decision to bar former President Donald Trump from appearing on the state's 2024 ballots.

Earlier this week, the Colorado high court ruled that the former president is disqualified from being on the ballot in the state because of his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol breach. The 4–3 ruling, which is based on a reading of a provision in the Constitution's 14th Amendment, is likely to be taken up by the U.S. Supreme Court, some analysts have noted.

The ruling applies only to Colorado's March 5 Republican primary but it could affect President Trump's status in the state for the Nov. 5 general election. Nonpartisan U.S. election forecasters view Colorado as safely Democratic, meaning that President Joe Biden will likely carry the state regardless of President Trump's fate there.

Chris Landau, a former law clerk for U.S. Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas and the late Justice Antonin Scalia, said the Colorado ruling is "lawfare" and was one of "the most antidemocratic decisions we have seen in American history—that four unelected judges on a state Supreme Court have taken it upon themselves to disqualify someone who otherwise meets all the qualifications of the Constitution."

Speaking to Fox News this week, Mr. Landau said he is confident that the U.S. high court will overturn the Colorado Supreme Court ruling after "[taking] one look at it."

I aslo saw this by Bill Barr.

"The core problem here is the denial of due process — to deprive somebody of the right to hold public office requires due process," he said. "This was denied due process. It was a five-day hearing. There was no jury; it was before the judge. They were not able to subpoena witnesses and compel the attendance of witnesses. They relied on the Jan. 6 committee hearings, which is mostly hearsay. There was no right to cross-examine during those hearings, and so forth."

Barr, moreover, predicted the U.S. Supreme Court will quickly grant an appeal and rule in Trump's favor.

Libtards are so fucking stupid

they could literally take Trump off the ballot in every libtard diehard stronghold and if Trump still won the presidency due to the brilliance of the electoral college they still be screetching "BIden won the popular vote!!!!!"

and THAT is exactly why there is such a brilliant provision to begin with. It's as if our founding fathers somehow knew democrats would ultimately end up being irretrievably stupid in mass quantities

Quote from: Brent on December 21, 2023, 07:56:14 PMI aslo saw this by Bill Barr.

"The core problem here is the denial of due process — to deprive somebody of the right to hold public office requires due process," he said. "This was denied due process. It was a five-day hearing. There was no jury; it was before the judge. They were not able to subpoena witnesses and compel the attendance of witnesses. They relied on the Jan. 6 committee hearings, which is mostly hearsay. There was no right to cross-examine during those hearings, and so forth."

Barr, moreover, predicted the U.S. Supreme Court will quickly grant an appeal and rule in Trump's favor.

And Bill Barr is no fan of Trump. Not by a long shot

but this is the difference between us conservatives and those vermin fuckups on the left. We can hate the person but understand that the process is of paramount importance in preserving the society that has consistently been the best out of the worst across the globe

these monsters are causing our republic to erode at an alarming rate

Biggie Smiles and Garraty_47, what do you predict will happen? Will the Supreme Court rule against the Colorado court? Will more states follow Colorado and ban Trump from appearing on the ballot.

I never thought a court would actually rule that someone who meets the requirements to become president would be blocked. This is really uncharted territory. And is this really the way Biden wants to get a second term. Bacsically appointed by courts.

Quote from: Brent on December 21, 2023, 08:18:42 PMBiggie Smiles and Garraty_47, what do you predict will happen? Will the Supreme Court rule agains the Colorado court? Will more states follow Colorado and ban Trump from appearing on the ballot.

I never thought a court would actually rule that someone who meets the requirements to become president would be blocked. This is really uncharted territory. And is this really the way Biden wants to get a second term.

absolutely ! But it will be a spilt right down the party lines. watch

for a variety of reasons

One being Trump has never even been charged with an insurrection -- neither has ANYONE from Jan 6th as Shen Li  aptly pointed out. Further, he was acquitted of such a charge during his 2nd shame impeachment

and the list goes on and on but I'll let others provide that various other reasons 

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on December 21, 2023, 08:21:37 PMabsolutely ! But it will be a spilt right down the party lines. watch

for a variety of reasons

One being Trump has never even been charged with an insurrection -- neither has ANYONE from Jan 6th as Shen Li  aptly pointed out. Further, he was acquitted of such a charge during his 2nd shame impeachment

and the list goes on and on but I'll let others provide that various other reasons 

If Biden gets a second term because the opposition had legal handcuffs on, he wil be a joke at home and abroad. His presidency will have no legitimacy.

I hope it does not come to that. The Supreme Court cannot just tell Americans, fuck you, you can't vote for Trump.

Quote from: Brent on December 21, 2023, 08:25:55 PMIf Biden gets a second term because the opposition had legal handcuffs on, he wil be a joke at home and abroad. His presidency will have no legitimacy.

I hope it does not come to that. The Supreme Court cannot just tell Americans, fuck you, you can't vote for Trump.

He's a joke at home and abroad right now

Quote from: Brent on December 21, 2023, 07:19:27 PMWhat do you expect to happen next and when? Will the Supreme Court here the case quick like they did in 2000 with Biden and Gore and the Florida counting dispute?

I hesitate to make predictions because every time I think I've sussed the parameters of exactly how fucked up this country is now something happens to make me throw my hands up and adjust the markers outward again.

But if there's any sanity left at all this is what ought to happen:

The supreme court will agree to hear and expedite the case due to the serious and time-sensitive nature of the issue. It won't/shouldn't take them long to identify and highlight the Colorado decision's fatal flaws after which they will officially reverse the finding and clear the way for Don to participate fully in the Colorado primary.

Trump will be more popular and unbeatable than ever, democrats and their apologists will blame it on the "conservative court" and make a lot of noise about ways to "balance" the SC that have nothing to do with fixing anything but only packing the bench with more people "from their team", and independents will become even more disgusted with the whole Red/vs/Blue shitshow giving RFKJr and other non-duopoly candidates another polling bump.

Other states who are attempting or are considering their own Colorado-like shenanigans will likely drop those plans after a brief period of grasping for a different angle than the one that was just shot down.

Before long the whole litigating Donny off the ballot thing will fade into the background as other concerns take center stage again- those most likely being the continuing Palestine/Israel conflict (including escalating participation by other nations in the region), the increasingly obvious failure of the proxy war in Ukraine, and whatever China decides to do in response to the USA's provocations e.g. military entanglements with Taiwan.


Of course any or all of that could turn out to be absolute nonsense. The whole planet has lost what little mind it had left and almost nothing surprises me anymore.