The Great Abortion Debate

[Romero]

Not the mother?

[Anonymous]

Not the mother?

The only reason when abortion is not premeditated murder is if the woman's life is threatened if she carries the baby to term..



Medical professionals are the ones who make that determination.

[cc]

Not the mother?

I didn't have any problem understanding what she said

[Anonymous]

This whole fucking thread is an exercise in futility.

[Romero]

Not the mother?

The only reason when abortion is not premeditated murder is if the woman's life is threatened if she carries the baby to term..



Medical professionals are the ones who make that determination.

That's strange, because women currently have the right to choose to carry the baby to term even when their life is threatened.



What if the doctor suggests termination but the mother wants to carry to term anyway?

[Anonymous]

Not the mother?

The only reason when abortion is not premeditated murder is if the woman's life is threatened if she carries the baby to term..



Medical professionals are the ones who make that determination.

That's strange, because women currently have the right to choose to carry the baby to term even when their life is threatened.



What if the doctor suggests termination but the mother wants to carry to term anyway?

I never said they couldn't...



I said the only time abortion is not murder is when the woman's life is threatened.

[Anonymous]

Not the mother?

The only reason when abortion is not premeditated murder is if the woman's life is threatened if she carries the baby to term..



Medical professionals are the ones who make that determination.

That's strange, because women currently have the right to choose to carry the baby to term even when their life is threatened.



What if the doctor suggests termination but the mother wants to carry to term anyway?

I never said they couldn't...



I said the only time abortion is not murder is when the woman's life is threatened.

Everyone except Romero understood what you meant.

[asal]

In the states, females who birth children conceived by rape have to fight for custody of the child:

[Romero]

Not the mother?

The only reason when abortion is not premeditated murder is if the woman's life is threatened if she carries the baby to term..



Medical professionals are the ones who make that determination.

That's strange, because women currently have the right to choose to carry the baby to term even when their life is threatened.



What if the doctor suggests termination but the mother wants to carry to term anyway?

I never said they couldn't...



I said the only time abortion is not murder is when the woman's life is threatened.

So it just comes back to women having the right to choose.



This is why others can't make the decision for them. Any woman walking into an abortion clinic could be doing so for medical reasons.



It's completely confidential information. No one could possibly know if it's for health reasons or not.

[Anonymous]

Not the mother?

The only reason when abortion is not premeditated murder is if the woman's life is threatened if she carries the baby to term..



Medical professionals are the ones who make that determination.

That's strange, because women currently have the right to choose to carry the baby to term even when their life is threatened.



What if the doctor suggests termination but the mother wants to carry to term anyway?

I never said they couldn't...



I said the only time abortion is not murder is when the woman's life is threatened.

So it just comes back to women having the right to choose.



This is why others can't make the decision for them. Any woman walking into an abortion clinic could be doing so for medical reasons.



It's completely confidential information. No one could possibly know if it's for health reasons or not.

No, it's not because you  are discussing two different things..



If a woman wants to do something risky that is up to her..



Many people have risky surgeries that could kill them..



This thread is about abortion though, not dangerous personal choices..



Ending the life of an unborn baby without just cause is murder..



Unless of course her physician determines her life is in danger if the baby is carried to term..



I don't know how I can make it any more clear than that?



Everyone else seems to understand what I mean.

[cc]

I never could figure if his inability to understand people + ability to totally misquote people was a disability or an act / tactic



Whichever it is, he invariably misses the mark. That is why at a point I just move on without him

[Anonymous]

I never could figure if his inability to understand people + ability to totally misquote people was a disability or an act / tactic



Whichever it is, he invariably misses the mark. That is why at a point I just move on without him

Fash's position is consistent and crystal clear to anyone whether they agree with it or not. Pretending not to understand the obvious is not only insulting, it would get his skinny little ass kicked in real life.

[RW]

He's questioning her not misunderstanding what she's saying.



A doctor makes a recommendation and the woman makes the call if she is of the capacity to do so.

[Anonymous]

He's questioning her not misunderstanding what she's saying.



A doctor makes a recommendation and the woman makes the call if she is of the capacity to do so.

Then why does she have to keep repeating herself if he gets it? I don't agree with her about when life begins, but at least anyone except Romero knows exactly where she stands.

[Romero]

I know where Fash stands. I'm just discussing some aspects.



If only a woman and her doctor have the right to choose what's best, how can the pro-life movement claim to know what's best? Who gets to decide who is allowed to have an abortion? Should a 10% chance of dying still be illegal to have an abortion? What if it's 50%?



Many in the pro-life movement agree that abortion is okay if the mother's life is in danger, yet they would have no way of knowing if that were the case.



Any woman walking into an abortion clinic could be doing so because her life is in danger. Pro-life protesters would call her a "murderer".



I'm just trying to show that judging a woman for her right to choose is a little more complicated than "it's murder".