The madness goes on...give teachers guns.

[Wazzzup]

^^That's it. So is this.

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No. Its not.



Like all memes, the logic is secondary to the sarcasm.



Drugs are not a lethal weapon that can be used against others.



The comparison is invalid.

The idea of the meme is that just because something is illegal doesn't mean people can't obtain it.



If people can buy illegal drugs they will be able to buy illegal firearms.

[Anonymous]

^^That's it. So is this.

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No. Its not.



Like all memes, the logic is secondary to the sarcasm.



Drugs are not a lethal weapon that can be used against others.



The comparison is invalid.

The idea of the meme is that just because something is illegal doesn't mean people can't obtain it.



If people can buy illegal drugs they will be able to buy illegal firearms.

Obvioiously.  Prohibition was a boon for organized crime.

[Bricktop]

Alcohol is not usually regarded as a murder weapon.



You guys are still barking up the wrong tree.



I ask again...what is the justification for a modern, law abiding first world country to allow its citizens to possess firearms?

[Wazzzup]

Alcohol is not usually regarded as a murder weapon.



You guys are still barking up the wrong tree.

Alcohol is another good example of the same effect,  prohibition made alcohol illegal and people didn;t stop drinking it, instead they bought it on the black market, which is what would happen if you make guns illegal,

I ask again...what is the justification for a modern, law abiding first world country to allow its citizens to possess firearms?

these women protecting their store when a bad guy tries to rob it.  Just one of many legitimate reasons for citizens to own a gun.

[Angry White Male]

I ask again...what is the justification for a modern, law abiding first world country to allow its citizens to possess firearms?

I will give you the answer that you want, and you take that as you will...



To 'dis-allow' a Nation like the US, to possess firearms, would be nearly impossible.



There are literally hundreds of millions of firearms floating around.  And that's just what they know...  There could easily be a billion, if every old rifle and six-shooter is counted as still existing...



You cannot wipe that ownership out, Brick.  You just cannot.  It is there, and it is there to stay.

[realgrimm]

Bottom line is America is in the gun business always have been, and if they aren't selling to their own they'll find the market

[Aryan]

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That pretty much sums up the debate.  

[Anonymous]

I gave my nephews most of my rifles when I quit hunting. But, I still keep a 22 and 270.  The government will get them  from my cold dead hands.

[Aryan]

Just don't use them when you've been on the barrel wash!  ac_wot

[Wazzzup]

I gave my nephews most of my rifles when I quit hunting. But, I still keep a 22 and 270.  The government will get them  from my cold dead hands.

Even if the government banned them there's nothing they can really do to take those guns, unless they catch you using them.



If guns were banned they can't go searching from house to house  to make sure you turned yours in, that would require a warrant, plus billions of hours of searches.  Its not even remotely possible.

[Anonymous]

I gave my nephews most of my rifles when I quit hunting. But, I still keep a 22 and 270.  The government will get them  from my cold dead hands.

Even if the government banned them there's nothing they can really do to take those guns, unless they catch you using them.



If guns were banned they can't go searching from house to house  to make sure you turned yours in, that would require a warrant, plus billions of hours of searches.  Its not even remotely possible.

The second amendment is not going to be repealed.

[realgrimm]

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[Anonymous]

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I just checked Switzerland's gun laws and it said Permits for concealed carrying in public are issued only extremely restrictively.

[Bricktop]

Once again, memes perpetuate myth.



Switzerland has VERY tight gun control laws. Every citizen must do military training, and are issued a firearm to keep in their home, under strict storage procedures. However, they must still apply and qualify for a gun licence as the law requires, but cannot keep ammunition for their military rifle at home.



"In 2016, the defence ministry estimated that 2 million privately owned guns are in circulation, which given a population of 8.3 million corresponds to a gun ownership rate of around 24 guns per 100 residents.[6] This is roughly a quarter of the rate in the United States"



"Of the recorded homicides (attempted or completed), 20.3% were committed with a gun (47 cases, compared to an average of 41 cases in the period of 2009–2015). In addition, there were 7 cases of bodily harm and 233 cases of robbery committed with firearms.[29]"



None of these were committed by military issued firearms.



And Fash is correct; "Permits for concealed carrying in public are issued only extremely restrictively."



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Switzerland">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Switzerland



Yet again, the gun lobby distorts truth through silly memes.

[Wazzzup]

Once again, memes perpetuate myth.



Switzerland has VERY tight gun control laws. Every citizen must do military training, and are issued a firearm to keep in their home, under strict storage procedures. However, they must still apply and qualify for a gun licence as the law requires, but cannot keep ammunition for their military rifle at home.



"In 2016, the defence ministry estimated that 2 million privately owned guns are in circulation, which given a population of 8.3 million corresponds to a gun ownership rate of around 24 guns per 100 residents.[6] This is roughly a quarter of the rate in the United States"



"Of the recorded homicides (attempted or completed), 20.3% were committed with a gun (47 cases, compared to an average of 41 cases in the period of 2009–2015). In addition, there were 7 cases of bodily harm and 233 cases of robbery committed with firearms.[29]"



None of these were committed by military issued firearms.



And Fash is correct; "Permits for concealed carrying in public are issued only extremely restrictively."



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Switzerland">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Switzerland



Yet again, the gun lobby distorts truth through silly memes.

Most of that is irrelevent.



Bottom line in switzerland any citizen over 18 without a criminal record or psychiatrically disqualified can obtain a gun.  The murder rate in Swtizerland is .5 per hundred thousand and in Australia where guns are very tightly controlled it is double that at 1 per 100,000.



the point being while legal gun availabily MAY be a factor in differing homicide rates between countries, it is certainly NOT the only factor at play, and it probably is not the most important factor.