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MAJOR US MOVES on WHO & the Pariah[/url]



1 - WHO & China:

 President Trump on Friday announced that the U.S. is "terminating" its relationship with the embattled World Health Organization (WHO) over its failure to enact reforms in the face of U.S. concerns over its handling of the coronavirus pandemic and its pro-China bias.



"Because they have failed to make the requested and greatly needed reforms, we will be today terminating our relationship with the World Health Organization and redirecting those funds to other worldwide and deserving urgent global public health needs," Trump said at a press conference.



It came as part of a press conference in which Trump announced a number of measures aimed primarily at China in response to its conduct on a number of fronts including trade, the coronavirus and its recent incursions into freedoms in Hong Kong.



"The world is now suffering as a result of the misfeasance of the Chinese government," Trump said.



The U.S. has raised concerns about WHO officials' praise of Chinese "transparency," its ignoring of warnings from Taiwan, and its repetition of Chinese claims that the virus could not be spread from person-to-person. Trump has also pointed to the opposition by WHO officials to Trump's decision to place a travel ban on China in the initial days of the crisis.



"Chinese officials ignored their reporting obligations to the World Health Organization and pressured the World Health Organization to mislead the world when the virus was first discovered by Chinese authorities," he said. "Countless lives have been taken and profound economic hardship has been inflicted across the globe."



2 - Chinese Students

 Targeting the Chinese directly, Trump said he will issue a proclamation to secure university research and to "suspend the entry of certain foreign nationals from China who we have identified as a potential security risk."



3 - Hong Kong

Trump accused China of "smothering" freedom in Hong Kong, with its recent national security law that would shut down opposition and criminalize anti-government movements such as pro-democracy demonstrations seen in the territory in recent years.



The State Department this week reported to Congress that Hong Kong is no longer autonomous after a number of moves by Beijing to shut down the freedoms that were agreed to as part of the 1997 handover of the territory by the British.



Trump announced that the U.S. will be eliminating policy exemptions that give Hong Kong different and special treatment "from our extradition treaty to our export controls on dual use technologies and more with few exceptions."



Trump also said the State Department's travel advisory for Hong Kong would be revised to reflect the increased danger of surveillance and punishment by the Chinese.



Additionally, the U.S. is revoking Hong Kong's preferential treatment as a separate customs and travel territory, and taking steps to sanction officials involved in eroding Hong Kong's autonomy.



"The rest of the world was electrified by a sense of optimism that Hong Kong was a glimpse of China's future, not that Hong Kong would grow into a reflection of China's past," he said.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Should Canada withdraw from the WHO? Is membership worth our money?

Anonymous

The U.S. has kept its grocery stores and other essential businesses open throughout the pandemic, she says, and the same can be done for polling places so long as they implement social distancing.



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President Donald Trump took punitive action against China Friday over the country's recent undermining of democracy in Hong Kong and coverup of the origins of the coronavirus pandemic.



The president announced the United States will prevent certain Chinese nationals, deemed potential security risks, from entering the country in order to ensure the integrity of the U.S. higher education system. Furthermore, he directed the "presidential working group on financial markets to study the different practices of Chinese companies listed on the U.S. Financial markets with a goal of protecting American investors."



Trump additionally announced the U.S. is formally terminating its relationship with the World Health Organization for its role in helping China cover obscure the origins of the coronavirus pandemic, killing millions of people around the world. Trump added that funds normally reserved for WHO will go to other "deserving" global health needs.

Anonymous

China and Huawei bad deal for Canada



Once again, China's dictators are hurling insults at Canada because Prime Minister Justin Trudeau won't overturn a court decision in B.C. last week allowing the U.S. extradition case against Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou to proceed.



The same dictators who arrested and imprisoned Canadians Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor 539 days ago on charges of spying that Trudeau has called both an "arbitrary detention" and unacceptable international behaviour meant to pressure Canada into freeing Meng in exchange for the Two Michaels.



The same dictators who have the gall to equate China's justice system — where Kovrig and Spavor have been held in custody under harsh conditions — with ours, where Meng is free on bail, living in one of her Vancouver mansions.



The same dictators who hid the severity of COVID19 from the world until it was too late to stop it from becoming a pandemic that has caused both a worldwide public health emergency and an economic disaster.



The same dictators who are currently engaged in yet another vicious campaign to snuff out democracy in Hong Kong.



All of which raises the question of why Canada would want to have anything to do with China, or its telecommunications giant, Huawei, in the development of Canada's 5G telecommunications network?



Especially with our closest allies, including the U.S., U.K., Australia and New Zealand — who along with Canada make up the "Five



Eyes" intelligence network — balking at allowing Huawei to develop their 5G networks due to global security concerns.



Concerns that are shared by the Canadian military and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), as reported by The Globe and Mail.



To be sure, Meng and Huawei deny they are guilty of the allegations by the U.S. government that they conspired to commit bank and wire fraud in order to violate American sanctions against Iran.



Huawei and China also deny participation in corporate espionage and intellectual property theft anywhere in the world.



But based on the precautionary principle alone, why would we want Huawei involved with the development of wireless communications technology in Canada?



And why is it taking so long for Trudeau to listen to the views of Canadians, 78% of whom oppose Huawei developing Canada's 5G network, according to a recent poll by the Angus Reid Institute.

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China warns the UK to 'step back from the brink' after Boris Johnson offers 3 million Hong Kong citizens refuge in Britain[/url]



There is growing alarm in the UK about Beijing's attempt to introduce a law that would punish behavior that it deems an endangerment of Chinese national security in Hong Kong.



The prime minister said he would offer a 12-month extendable visa to all Hong Kong citizens who are eligible to apply for a British national overseas passport — some 3 million people — dramatically escalating the row between Beijing and London.



The UK has also asked Australia, Canada, the US, and New Zealand to give visas to Hong Kong residents who want to flee.



China told the UK to "step back from the brink" after Prime Minister Boris Johnson said he would offer millions of Hong Kong residents the right to move to Britain if China strips away their freedoms.



China told Britain to stop "interfering" and that its residency offer would "backfire."





[Looks like Boris & Co are stepping up]
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=364709 time=1591234677 user_id=88
[size=120]China warns the UK to 'step back from the brink' after Boris Johnson offers 3 million Hong Kong citizens refuge in Britain[/size]



There is growing alarm in the UK about Beijing's attempt to introduce a law that would punish behavior that it deems an endangerment of Chinese national security in Hong Kong.



The prime minister said he would offer a 12-month extendable visa to all Hong Kong citizens who are eligible to apply for a British national overseas passport — some 3 million people — dramatically escalating the row between Beijing and London.



The UK has also asked Australia, Canada, the US, and New Zealand to give visas to Hong Kong residents who want to flee.



China told the UK to "step back from the brink" after Prime Minister Boris Johnson said he would offer millions of Hong Kong residents the right to move to Britain if China strips away their freedoms.



China told Britain to stop "interfering" and that its residency offer would "backfire."





[Looks like Boris & Co are stepping up]

I hope they move to Liverpool and buy old Scouse's employer's business and become his landlord. :laugh3:

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=364709 time=1591234677 user_id=88
China warns the UK to 'step back from the brink' after Boris Johnson offers 3 million Hong Kong citizens refuge in Britain[/url]



There is growing alarm in the UK about Beijing's attempt to introduce a law that would punish behavior that it deems an endangerment of Chinese national security in Hong Kong.



The prime minister said he would offer a 12-month extendable visa to all Hong Kong citizens who are eligible to apply for a British national overseas passport — some 3 million people — dramatically escalating the row between Beijing and London.



The UK has also asked Australia, Canada, the US, and New Zealand to give visas to Hong Kong residents who want to flee.



China told the UK to "step back from the brink" after Prime Minister Boris Johnson said he would offer millions of Hong Kong residents the right to move to Britain if China strips away their freedoms.



China told Britain to stop "interfering" and that its residency offer would "backfire."





[Looks like Boris & Co are stepping up]

Boris has balls.

Anonymous

Documents show China's secret extradition request for Uighur in Turkey



Why it matters: Uighurs living outside China have long suspected that Beijing is using its growing diplomatic and economic clout to pressure foreign governments into interrogating and deporting them.



These documents from 2016 and 2017 — together with Turkey's treatment of the man after that — provide rare proof this is happening.

"I spend most of my nights in fear. I usually don't sleep until after 1am because I am afraid they will come for me and my family."

— Enver Turdi, in an interview with Axios

Details: Enver Turdi, the man named in the extradition request, has lived in Turkey since early 2014 when he fled Xinjiang, a region in northwest China that is home to around 10 million Uighurs, a Turkic-speaking ethnic minority.



In 2012 and 2013, Enver passed along information about Chinese government abuses to Radio Free Asia and to Uighur organizations abroad, he told Axios in an interview. He left China on a tourist visa after one of his associates was detained.

In 2015, the Chinese Embassy in Turkey refused to issue him a new passport, without which he could not renew his Turkish temporary residence permit, Enver told Axios. In 2017, he was placed in a deportation facility for 12 months after being unable to produce valid residence documents.

Turkish security officials then interrogated him and claimed that he had been running a pro-Islamic State website, which he denied, and showed him a copy of his 2004 graduation photo, which Enver says they could only have obtained from China. His case was sent to a criminal court, not an immigration court.

Enver's case is still pending in the Turkish courts.



Background: The Chinese Communist Party has placed heavy restrictions on Uighurs and other majority-Muslim ethnic groups in western China.



In early 2017, the Chinese government began putting hundreds of thousands of Uighurs into extrajudicial mass detention camps, where detainees are kept in dire conditions and forced to attend re-education classes. Many others receive long prison sentences without fair trials.

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How would the CCP react if there were nation wide protests and looting in China because of the persecution of Uighurs.

The Chinese government has said its measures in Xinjiang are intended to fight terrorism and extremism, but academics and human rights groups say what's happening is a cultural genocide on a scale not seen since World War II.

Anonymous

India and China have their first deadly clashes in 45 years

The border affray is a sign of worrying military escalation between Asia's giants

https://www.economist.com/asia/2020/06/16/india-and-china-have-their-first-deadly-clashes-in-45-years?utm_campaign=the-economist-today&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=2020-06-16&utm_content=article-link-1">https://www.economist.com/asia/2020/06/ ... cle-link-1">https://www.economist.com/asia/2020/06/16/india-and-china-have-their-first-deadly-clashes-in-45-years?utm_campaign=the-economist-today&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=2020-06-16&utm_content=article-link-1



THE TWO armies each had guns, artillery and tanks to the rear. But they wielded only sticks and stones at the front, as night fell on June 15th. That was deadly enough. When the brawl ended, and the final rocks had been thrown, at least 20 Indian troops lay dead in the picturesque Galwan valley, high in the mountains of Ladakh. Chinese casualties are unknown. They were the first combat fatalities on the mountainous border between India and China in 45 years, drawing to a close an era in which Asia's two largest powers had managed their differences without bloodshed.



The Indian and Chinese armies had been locked in a stand-off at three sites in Ladakh, an Indian territory at the northernmost tip of the country, for over a month. In April the People's Liberation Army (PLA) broke off from exercises and occupied a series of remote border posts along the disputed frontier, known as the Line of Actual Control (LAC). Both sides quickly moved troops and heavy weapons towards the LAC. As troops squared off, punch-ups erupted twice in May, at Pangong lake, in Ladakh, and at Naku La in Sikkim, 1,200km to the east, resulting in serious injuries on both sides. In total, the PLA grabbed around 40 to 60 square kilometres of territory that India considers to be its own,

Anonymous


Anonymous

China released ten Indian soldiers after border clash at Galwan Valley.

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=360673 time=1588564917 user_id=1689
I was just about to post this.

This major international geopolitical development is barely mentioned. North American media is preoccupied with the beatification of George Floyd.

Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=366702 time=1592555229 user_id=2015
Quote from: Herman post_id=360673 time=1588564917 user_id=1689
I was just about to post this.

This major international geopolitical development is barely mentioned. North American media is preoccupied with the beatification of George Floyd.

It's remarkable this isn't the biggest news story in the world.

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https://www.weaselzippers.us/452373-uk-officially-bans-china-owned-huawei-from-participating-in-their-5g-rollout/">UK Officially Bans China Owned Huawei From Participating In Their 5G Rollout



It's Official!!!



Britain bans Huawei from 5G network as Boris Johnson rejects China's threat of 'consequences'



Decision reverses earlier policy to allow Chinese tech giant access to network and follows growing pressure from US to alter course

British culture secretary Oliver Dowden says nation will be 'clear-eyed about China' and security risks





Huawei Technologies will be banned from Britain's 5G network, the UK government announced on Tuesday in a major U-turn.

The decision follows escalating tension with Beijing and pressure from Washington and could add to the pressure on other European countries to review their approach to the Chinese telecoms giant.



By tearing up his earlier policy to allow Huawei up to a 35 per cent share in the non-sensitive parts of Britain's 5G networks, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has ignored threats from Chinese officials that there will be "consequences" if the UK treats China as a "hostile partner".



The decision is one of the multiple signs of growing unease in Europe about China's actions, including the imposition of national security law in Hong Kong and its initial handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=371316 time=1594760543 user_id=88
UK Officially Bans China Owned Huawei From Participating In Their 5G Rollout



It's Official!!!



Britain bans Huawei from 5G network as Boris Johnson rejects China's threat of 'consequences'



Decision reverses earlier policy to allow Chinese tech giant access to network and follows growing pressure from US to alter course

British culture secretary Oliver Dowden says nation will be 'clear-eyed about China' and security risks





Huawei Technologies will be banned from Britain's 5G network, the UK government announced on Tuesday in a major U-turn.

The decision follows escalating tension with Beijing and pressure from Washington and could add to the pressure on other European countries to review their approach to the Chinese telecoms giant.



By tearing up his earlier policy to allow Huawei up to a 35 per cent share in the non-sensitive parts of Britain's 5G networks, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has ignored threats from Chinese officials that there will be "consequences" if the UK treats China as a "hostile partner".



The decision is one of the multiple signs of growing unease in Europe about China's actions, including the imposition of national security law in Hong Kong and its initial handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

Britain made a wise decision.