Zelensky is a piece of shit who scarified his own people on the alter of enriching himself and the Biden Mafia

period.

Joining NATO was a deliberate poke of the Lion to produce exactly the results which transpired

wanna know how to keep Russia out of places like Ukraine? Elect a real leader with a set of stones like Trump

Notice how Ukraine is kinda drifting into the background now that all the right players have become filthy fucking rich? In six months time it will be completely memory holed and if you visit Ukraine by then you'll find the Russian flag flying nearly everywhere with the average citizen tickled pink over the development while Zelensky and his cronies are sipping mai tai on some private island along the Philippine peninsula.

Don't gobble up the fucking hype -- this isn't 1936

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 17, 2023, 08:53:38 AMZelensky is a piece of shit who scarified his own people on the alter of enriching himself and the Biden Mafia

period.

Joining NATO was a deliberate poke of the Lion to produce exactly the results which transpired

wanna know how to keep Russia out of places like Ukraine? Elect a real leader with a set of stones like Trump

Notice how Ukraine is kinda drifting into the background now that all the right players have become filthy fucking rich? In six months time it will be completely memory holed and if you visit Ukraine by then you'll find the Russian flag flying nearly everywhere with the average citizen tickled pink over the development while Zelensky and his cronies are sipping mai tai on some private island along the Philippine peninsula.

Don't gobble up the fucking hype -- this isn't 1936

This conflict would never have happend if Trump was still president.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 17, 2023, 08:53:38 AMZelensky is a piece of shit who scarified his own people on the alter of enriching himself and the Biden Mafia

period.

Joining NATO was a deliberate poke of the Lion to produce exactly the results which transpired

wanna know how to keep Russia out of places like Ukraine? Elect a real leader with a set of stones like Trump

I'll go you one better. That stones-endowed leader should scale back US funding to NATO, if not cease funding altogether. NATO's purpose was satisfied once the threat of Soviet expansion was realised... thirty years ago. You know, when the Soviet Union disbanded.

What has NATO been involved in since, other than what those on the far left decry as "colonialism"? Country after country being gobbled up... this is precisely what the architects of the dissolution of the Soviet Union agreed should not happen. Ostensibly, it's the same sorts of crap the leftits bitch about when it comes to the subject of nations like the United States.

If Russia wanted Ukraine, they could practically annex it wholesale. A bang-up job of depleting the West's fortunes and the ability to defend itself all but assures us of this. From a political standpoint, the annexation makes less sense than having a buffer state between Russia and the ever expanding NATO influence. A buffer state that is sympathetic to Russian interests in ways the Ukrainian powerbrokers have demonstrated are not. Russia could interact with it, offer it humanitarian aid and protection in return for favourable trade deals, warm port access and the benefit of not having cunts like our current government setting up military and biological weapons facilities on their border.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on November 17, 2023, 08:53:38 AMNotice how Ukraine is kinda drifting into the background now that all the right players have become filthy fucking rich? In six months time it will be completely memory holed and if you visit Ukraine by then you'll find the Russian flag flying nearly everywhere with the average citizen tickled pink over the development while Zelensky and his cronies are sipping mai tai on some private island along the Philippine peninsula.

Don't gobble up the fucking hype -- this isn't 1936

Ukraine is definitely taking a backseat in the news cycle, I agree. And in spite of Valdemort Zelenskyy's increasingly tearful cries for mo' money. Fuck him, the guy's an asshat and a criminal, he deserves to be cut off.

I doubt that Ukraine will recover within six months though. That economy has been cratered, it will take some time before it digs itself out of the rubble. It has been milked for its worth.

You are right in two respects. At least I think you are. The average Ukrainian will be happy to see the back of us. They'll welcome the silence in place of gunfire at least. If I could put myself in the shoes of your average Ukrainian, I'd be happy if I never heard of NATO ever again.

And yeah, those who made off like bandits in the affair will be living the high life... but only if someone doesnt put a bullet in them first.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on November 18, 2023, 12:09:24 AMI'll go you one better. That stones-endowed leader should scale back US funding to NATO, if not cease funding altogether. NATO's purpose was satisfied once the threat of Soviet expansion was realised... thirty years ago. You know, when the Soviet Union disbanded.

What has NATO been involved in since, other than what those on the far left decry as "colonialism"? Country after country being gobbled up... this is precisely what the architects of the dissolution of the Soviet Union agreed should not happen. Ostensibly, it's the same sorts of crap the leftits bitch about when it comes to the subject of nations like the United States.

If Russia wanted Ukraine, they could practically annex it wholesale. A bang-up job of depleting the West's fortunes and the ability to defend itself all but assures us of this. From a political standpoint, the annexation makes less sense than having a buffer state between Russia and the ever expanding NATO influence. A buffer state that is sympathetic to Russian interests in ways the Ukrainian powerbrokers have demonstrated are not. Russia could interact with it, offer it humanitarian aid and protection in return for favourable trade deals, warm port access and the benefit of not having cunts like our current government setting up military and biological weapons facilities on their border.
Ukraine is definitely taking a backseat in the news cycle, I agree. And in spite of Valdemort Zelenskyy's increasingly tearful cries for mo' money. Fuck him, the guy's an asshat and a criminal, he deserves to be cut off.

I doubt that Ukraine will recover within six months though. That economy has been cratered, it will take some time before it digs itself out of the rubble. It has been milked for its worth.

You are right in two respects. At least I think you are. The average Ukrainian will be happy to see the back of us. They'll welcome the silence in place of gunfire at least. If I could put myself in the shoes of your average Ukrainian, I'd be happy if I never heard of NATO ever again.

And yeah, those who made off like bandits in the affair will be living the high life... but only if someone doesnt put a bullet in them first.

The brother nails it.

Lets be real here.

If we get attacked and some wiseguy says nice things about the enemy..


=

While I dont think NATO should have been disbanded, I definitely think America should have removed itself from NATO. NATO should have become an extension of the EU.

Russia offered to end its invasion of Ukraine if it dumped plans to join NATO. That aint what Zelenskyy or his boss Jim Crow Joe wanted.

A 19 year old Ukrainian female refugee tried to kill her Finnish lover Basic instincts style.

Hidden knife under the pillow.


She was on top of him, stabbed him on the chest and then cut his throat.

He survived.



Cant trust these bitches...

 

Quote from: Lokmar on November 25, 2023, 11:58:02 AMWhile I dont think NATO should have been disbanded, I definitely think America should have removed itself from NATO. NATO should have become an extension of the EU.

Nah, NATO was created to guard against Soviet expansion. The Soviet Union (of which Ukraine was once a member of) has not existed for 30 years and NATO's focus has since been shifted to antagonizing Russia with policies that can only be considered as "aggressively expansionalist".

So fuck NATO and its bullshit. And fuck the EU too, the stupid bastards are just as useless as the US in terms of defending their own borders; disband that shit and revert to the sovereign nation autonomy that existed before. 

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 01, 2023, 08:50:04 AMNah, NATO was created to guard against Soviet expansion. The Soviet Union (of which Ukraine was once a member of) has not existed for 30 years and NATO's focus has since been shifted to antagonizing Russia with policies that can only be considered as "aggressively expansionalist".

So fuck NATO and its bullshit. And fuck the EU too, the stupid bastards are just as useless as the US in terms of defending their own borders; disband that shit and revert to the sovereign nation autonomy that existed before. 

Well, its hard to disagree with that based on the results.

Quote from: Adolf Oliver Bush on December 01, 2023, 08:50:04 AMNah, NATO was created to guard against Soviet expansion. The Soviet Union (of which Ukraine was once a member of) has not existed for 30 years and NATO's focus has since been shifted to antagonizing Russia with policies that can only be considered as "aggressively expansionalist".

Precisely.

Ukraine is gonna mobilize more folks and patch the draft evasion loopholes.

And Putin just signed a decree to increase the armysize.


FYI Russia produces 8 times more shells than the whole west combined.

Quote from: Herman on November 26, 2023, 09:26:15 PMRussia offered to end its invasion of Ukraine if it dumped plans to join NATO. That aint what Zelenskyy or his boss Jim Crow Joe wanted.

So what?  Seriously, why should the Russian dictator get to tell independent countries what they can and cannot do?  If you recall the speech Putin made on the day of the invasion he literally demanded that NATO kick out all of eastern Europe simply because he wants to invade and dominate them.  Fuck that and fuck Putler.

NATO started the war, not Russia.

You'd have to be brain-dead or brainwashed to not acknowledge this fact.

I'm detecting copious quantities of "do as I say, not as I do" in this thread. One authoritarian socialist state disbands while another takes root to the west of it and starts gobbling up countries left and right in the name of globo-homo.

And when a member state of the aforementioned disbanded entity requests its neighbour abstain by getting gobbled up by the New Authoritarians in return for not getting the shit shelled out it... they're the ones that are accused of trying to order the affairs of others?

Oerdin my friend, you're behaving like a leftist. Cut it out.