Quote from: JOE on June 29, 2024, 02:41:29 PMI think you should pay even more tax LokmarL okmeer

Be a Good American.

Your country needs you and yer money, eh?

I think I should pay half what I do, josephine. Let them bums and mexcrements starve to death.....their mexcrement keyuds too!

I think the Cucknadian Jackboots should kick your fukin door down, put a bullet in your disarmed ass, and take all your gold and silver and give it to the terd wurlerz you voted to allow into your shitty country!!!

I know who was behind it and why...

There is lots of proof... there is proof they applied to demolish the towers..  there is proof from fireman who heard explosions popping the pillars BEFORE the towers came down..

There is proof the third building fell down  BEFORE the towers fell down. 

It's not a conspiracy there is hard evidence.

They never did a proper investigation....

There are conspiracy sites but there is also a site that have proper engineers..... who did their own investigation because the official explanation is a pile bull manure.

The buildings came down exactly as any other building imploding.

It was all done before 9 am when there was the least amount of people there. STILL around 3,000 were murdered.

Filthy stinking muhzies brought the towers down.

Quote from: caskur on June 29, 2024, 04:25:48 PMA Perth couple coming home from holidays lost their 4 children and a grandfather on that plane. The couple were on another plane.

How would you like being shot out of the sky by Russians? How would you like losing all your children?

I cannot even imagine how they could live on.

The Russians didn't down MH17.

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 29, 2024, 04:02:11 PMWow

you just have to look and remained stunned in horror at both the treachery and hypocrisy up on world display by these democrat scumbags.

Some might. In fact I imagine quite a few people who, unaware of how they are being constantly played and manipulated, would see such a thing and simply sit there refusing to believe it. It is not an easy thing to accept, to see and to accept that one is in fact a party to the same kinds of criminality they would decry in others.

That is of course why I put it out there on display when it is all but gift-wrapped and handed to me on a silver platter. I see shit like this, I look about the people I am with and I believe (naïvely perhaps) that those around me might learn and grow from the experience. Realising that the whole "good/evil" and "us/them" paradigm is not as black and white as it is sold to us. It represents an opportunity to shake someone by the shoulders, someone I imagine that wants to be the decent, compassionate reasonable person, but is perhaps prevented from doing so due to a deficiency in their understanding of the fuller picture. There is nothing in the way of an immediate gain for me doing it, other than perhaps the knowledge that in my own small way I've helped the world a little on the way towards being a better place.

I don't believe Putin to be a golden boy, far from it in fact. But shit like that video drives it home to me that he is not the one dimensional evil that far too many are being brainwashed into believing. These situations are forever being created where he... indeed any of our state-mandated opponents... are being forced into courses of action which we are then expected to castigate them for. And so many of us simply swallow it hook, line and sinker. That is the real evil - those who would present their enemies with no realistic way out save for more deplorable and egregious acts while contriving to marshal public sentiment against them. And telling us that we are the Good People if only we go along with the deception... if we live the lie that is set out for us to believe.

 

Quote from: Biggie Smiles on June 29, 2024, 04:02:11 PMWatching that video twice and I cannot find a single person that appeared to be a military target embedded with those beach goers. Not a single one. Putin was no where to be found nor where there any commanders in view planning the next strategic war effort against Ukrainne

so this was just about the purest example of civilians being targeted you can possibly find and the same leftist scumbags want to pontificate about war crimes when shrapnel from a missile targets a HAMAS stronghold regrettably takes a few civilians down with it?

Or that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy and that any act... up to and including the nurturing of global nuclear conflict... is justified in keeping his hands from the levers of power. Yes. That is precisely the play unfolding and anyone that pays lipservice to the paradigm is making matters worse, for themselves as much as anyone else.

I would prefer to make the information available that breaks that cycle. Some will pick up on it and use it to our mutual advantage and I sincerely hope that is the case with Caskur because I don't regard her as necessarily being a bad person... far from it in fact. I do however recognise humans as being largely driven by habit... it is far easier to revert to type than it is to shake off the chains binding oneself and rise above the mental enslavement foisted upon us. Some people will never accomplish it; they cannot accept they ere lied to on the regular and would rather dismiss the notion that even the smallest efforts on their part might be instrumental in fixing the problems they wring their hands over.

And you know, that's fine as far as it goes. If being one of Yuri Bezmenov's "useful idiots" works for you, then by all means join the ranks of the Mudcocks and Fat Lillys and AIDSmins. You might not agree with their take on it, but at least there's plenty of funtime squabbles to be had there I'm sure. You can keep on making the same mistakes to your grave and those running the show will rub their hands together and be happy that you did.

I think it holds the rest of us back and that is why I don't bother past the occasional heads up up to them. I'm human too and therefore a creature of habit myself. It is far easier for me to ridicule and treat them like shit than it is to bother opening someone's eyes to how comprehensively they are being fucked up the hoop by their cherished, unchallenged "authorities". And yes, it's rewarding and fun to exercise mental and argumentative superiority over them... but if that's all I ever did then I'd be as functionally useless as they are.

The Real Fight isn't with them - they are merely the speed-bumps in the road to a better future.

Similarly, if by the "third building" Caskur is talking about WTC-7, I watched it collapse live on television the afternoon of the day of the Twin Towers collapse... twenty minutes after the journalist insisted it had collapsed. I therefore an in a position to state emphatically that and "proof" that exists to the contrary would have for have been manufactured after the fact.

You can deduce that much for yourselves even without my say-so of course. WTC-7 collapsing before the twin towers makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. People had been going about their business as though it were any other normal day... until the attacks on those two towers took place. They came down quickly... it has been said too quickly since no other skyscraper in the entire world had ever collapsed in such a fashion from anything other than controlled demolition... until that day when we were sold the most incredible tall tale that not only could it happen, but that it could happen to THREE buildings, and all in the one place.

I'm not that gullible. We were lied to.

Quote from: Filthmuck on June 30, 2024, 04:00:03 AMYou can deduce that much for yourselves even without my say-so of course. WTC-7 collapsing before the twin towers makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. People had been going about their business as though it were any other normal day... until the attacks on those two towers took place. They came down quickly... it has been said too quickly since no other skyscraper in the entire world had ever collapsed in such a fashion from anything other than controlled demolition... until that day when we were sold the most incredible tall tale that not only could it happen, but that it could happen to THREE buildings, and all in the one place.

I'm not that gullible. We were lied to.

Buildings on fire wouldn't collapse that quickly. It would take days of burning and no outside intervention for a structure that size to collapse.

Also structural steel doesn't collapse vertically. It buckles under intense heat. So the building should have twisted sideways onto neighboring ones.

Interesting that WT7 & the twin towers were the only buildings that collapsed. All owned by the same person Larry Silverstein who later received a massive insurance pay out. Tho damaged The neighboring buildings were left standing and still usable.

If WT7 combusted in an inferno of jet/rocket fuel how come the other buildings  next to it didnt?

No one is brain washing me into thinking anything about Putin you bloody idiot.

The mass murderer should be horse drawn and quartered and left to die from his injuries.

And any of you thinking otherwise deserves to join him.

Quote from: caskur on June 30, 2024, 08:12:23 AMNo one is brain washing me into thinking anything about Putin you bloody idiot.

The mass murderer should be horse drawn and quartered and left to die from his injuries.

And any of you thinking otherwise deserves to join him.

Putin killed a lotta people with invasion of the Ukraine.
Including little children, old people and mothers.
I don't see what's so noble about that.
Likewise the Russian soldiers he sent to die on the battlefield are suffering immensely as well. Russia's death toll is well over 50,000.

I don't see how their country could not be bursting at the seams at this point.
Ya'd think it would result in a Civil War.

Quote from: JOE on June 30, 2024, 08:33:27 AMPutin killed a lotta people with invasion of the Ukraine.
Including little children, old people and mothers.
I don't see what's so noble about that.
Likewise the Russian soldiers he sent to die on the battlefield are suffering immensely as well. Russia's death toll is well over 50,000.

I don't see how their country could not be bursting at the seams at this point.
Ya'd think it would result in a Civil War.

I know what it is like to grow up without a father and thinking of the Ukraine and Russian fathers who have been killed is worse than disgusting.


It has been going on for over 2 years.

See what happens if Trump takes charge.

Quote from: Filthmuck on June 30, 2024, 04:00:03 AMSimilarly, if by the "third building" Caskur is talking about WTC-7, I watched it collapse live on television the afternoon of the day of the Twin Towers collapse... twenty minutes after the journalist insisted it had collapsed. I therefore an in a position to state emphatically that and "proof" that exists to the contrary would have for have been manufactured after the fact.

You can deduce that much for yourselves even without my say-so of course. WTC-7 collapsing before the twin towers makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. People had been going about their business as though it were any other normal day... until the attacks on those two towers took place. They came down quickly... it has been said too quickly since no other skyscraper in the entire world had ever collapsed in such a fashion from anything other than controlled demolition... until that day when we were sold the most incredible tall tale that not only could it happen, but that it could happen to THREE buildings, and all in the one place.

I'm not that gullible. We were lied to.

Yes I am talking about building 7 which had a fire and came down BEFORE the twin towers. Buildings do not come down from fires alone.

The two Jewish brothers who owned the buildings did not have enough money for asbestos removal and demolishing the towers so arranged for the demolishon anyway.... they applied to have the buildings demolished and authorities wouldn't let them but it has been over a decade I looked into it and some of my memory is faulty and I cannot be bothered really researching it a second time. I just know it had NOTHING to do with the government as lefties like to throw shade over Bush and the Iraqi war.

Quote from: caskur on June 30, 2024, 01:51:15 PMI just know it had NOTHING to do with the government as lefties like to through shade over Bush and the Iraqi war.

I think it did caskur caskur

After the buildings fell, the wreckage of the buildings was quickly taken away without a proper forensic analysis. It was a coverup by the government of George W Bush. His henchman Dick Cheney is also a war criminal and a crook. They got away with murder.

Notice how neither shows their faces in public anymore?
And if they make the occasional appearance its with an entourage of bodyguards. W Bush is still hated by his most of own people - the citizens of America - who largely blame him for plunging them into the Iraq War.

Quote from: JOE on June 30, 2024, 01:57:57 PMI think it did caskur caskur

After the buildings fell, the wreckage of the buildings was quickly taken away without a proper forensic analysis. It was a coverup by the government of George W Bush. His henchman Dick Cheney is also a war criminal and a crook. They got away with murder.

Notice how neither shows their faces in public anymore?
And if they make the occasional appearance its with an entourage of bodyguards. W Bush is still hated by his most of own people - the citizens of America - who largely blame him for plunging them into the Iraq War.

I do not believe any of that for a second. Our Prime Minister John Howard was with Bush at the time and saw how Bush was shaken to his bones over it.

That crime was bigger than anything the world has ever seen.

Bush is a decent person..  I don't know About Dick Cheney.... I know of him only.

Frankly the left are truly disgusting bullies in the later 4 decades.

But people fear the right whingers too so most of us are stuck between the proverbial rock and a hard place...


Both sides of politics have made the world unsafe for women and for that ... well, I have already been too unladylike over the past 2 days so I will hide my nasty side now.

I am watching Piers Morgan and a panel of Americans right now talking about Bidens lack of competence. On Piers Morgan Uncensored.

Quote from: caskur on June 30, 2024, 02:18:51 PMI do not believe any of that for a second. Our Prime Minister John Howard was with Bush at the time and saw how Bush was shaken to his bones over it.

That crime was bigger than anything the world has ever seen.

Bush is a decent person..  I don't know About Dick Cheney.... I know of him only.

Frankly the left are truly disgusting bullies in the later 4 decades.

But people fear the right whingers too so most of us are stuck between the proverbial rock and a hard place...


Both sides of politics have made the world unsafe for women and for that ... well, I have already been too unladylike over the past 2 days so I will hide my nasty side now.

I am watching Piers Morgan and a panel of Americans right now talking about Bidens lack of competence. On Piers Morgan Uncensored.

Joe has a colection of about four or five talking points that he uses to troll over and over again. The blame Bush bs is one of them.

He has been schooled on all of them, but he doesn't care. As long as posters like you and Lokmar keep indulging his addiction to attention.

Quote from: Brent on June 30, 2024, 02:37:20 PMJoe has a colection of about four or five talking points that he uses to troll over and over again. The blame Bush bs is one of them.

He has been schooled on all of them, but he doesn't care. As long as posters like you and Lokmar keep indulging his addiction to attention.

He obviously believes the left wing propaganda of those earlier years... those lefties knew something was wrong about the whole 9 11 thing. It has stuck in his head. It makes sense to him.

But it doesn't make sense to me because there is no way you will ever get me to believe the American government would murder 3,000 just to start a war over oil.

The former Chief United Nations Weapons Inspector was Richard Butler, an Australian guy that ended up GOV GENERAL of Tasmania who went around the world telling the Americans and the Brits and Australians that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction that is why they went to war... Richard Butlers faulty intelligence.

I am the only person that goes around telling people about Richard Butler BECAUSE everybody is too invested in the politics and the story gets changed along the way.   

Those 3 leaders at the time, Aus. HOWARD USA  Bush, UK Cameron was it? went to war with Iraq was because Richard Butler United nations chief weapon inspector gave outdated advice...

Meanwhile Sudden Hussein hid the WMD in Syria.

I was glued to every news program out there and thankfully on some issues I retained the information.

I don't mind talking to Joe... he likes to respond...I like that he gives his opinions.