Treatment for Pedophiles

[RW]

What does it matter what it is sharky?  Pedophilia is pedophilia regardless of the cause.



Personally, I think it is a sexuality which apparently is seen in other species as well.

[the shark hunter]

What does it matter what it is sharky?  Pedophilia is pedophilia regardless of the cause.



Personally, I think it is a sexuality which apparently is seen in other species as well.

... if there's child abuse going on then something should be done by way of interdiction.  but when it's nothing more than looking at photos i don't think it's a law enforcement issue ...

[RW]

What does it matter what it is sharky?  Pedophilia is pedophilia regardless of the cause.



Personally, I think it is a sexuality which apparently is seen in other species as well.

... if there's child abuse going on then something should be done by way of interdiction.  but when it's nothing more than looking at photos i don't think it's a law enforcement issue ...

Child pornography is illegal to possess.

[the shark hunter]

What does it matter what it is sharky?  Pedophilia is pedophilia regardless of the cause.



Personally, I think it is a sexuality which apparently is seen in other species as well.

... if there's child abuse going on then something should be done by way of interdiction.  but when it's nothing more than looking at photos i don't think it's a law enforcement issue ...

Child pornography is illegal to possess.

... yes, the government has made that very clear.  however what they try to call child porn is ridiculous.  for instance any nude pic of a minor is child porn to them, even innocent photos ...

[RW]

No, it's not.

[Frood]

What does it matter what it is sharky?  Pedophilia is pedophilia regardless of the cause.



Personally, I think it is a sexuality which apparently is seen in other species as well.

... if there's child abuse going on then something should be done by way of interdiction.  but when it's nothing more than looking at photos i don't think it's a law enforcement issue ...

Child pornography is illegal to possess.

... yes, the government has made that very clear.  however what they try to call child porn is ridiculous.  for instance any nude pic of a minor is child porn to them, even innocent photos ...

Or pictures of those in their mid to later teens could be child porn even if they're not.

[Anonymous]

I understand what you are saying but it's treatment or no treatment.  Which is better?



The problem is, if they aren't afforded patient confidentiality, they don't come forward.  So what do you do?

 apparently, as you stated, the problem will take care of itself.  There is a accountability with recovery. There are limits on keeping an addictive issue secret.  If I work at a pharmacy I have to tell them I'm a recovering heroin addict. If a recovering pedophile moves around children he/she should have to notify families. When you are in a situation where your 'substance' will be present, you have to subject yourself to accountability. That's a huge part of true recovery, and if you are unwilling to do that....you are no where near ready for the painful, hard work ahead of you. We are only as sick as our secrets.  Offering them recovery treatment without accountability and integrity is redundant and a waste of time, it's enabling.  It's called "working your own program", and those who do it their way or avoid the uncomfortable parts don't recover. They relapse. They die.

[RW]

You're talking about recovery.  What of those who have never offended?

[Frood]

If those who have never offended are forced to be put on a list of offenders, many will lose their careers, families, friends, and social standing despite them being innocent of any crime. That would be the only crime committed and on them.

[RW]

Thought crime.



They should be treated without fear of being reported for their thoughts.

[Anonymous]

You're talking about recovery.  What of those who have never offended?

 The offending isn't the illness. It's the symptom. You can live your life as dry drunk. You are sick, even though you are not using.

[Anonymous]

Thought crime.



They should be treated without fear of being reported for their thoughts.

 The treatment isn't the punishment.  Accountability IS treatment. That is a huge part of treatment.  If a person says they are suicidal and you put them inpatient psyc, is that though crime punishment?

[Anonymous]

You're talking about recovery.  What of those who have never offended?

 The offending isn't the illness. It's the symptom. You can live your life as dry drunk. You are sick, even though you are not using.

I hadn't thought of it that way Dove.

 ac_umm

[Anonymous]

You're talking about recovery.  What of those who have never offended?

 The offending isn't the illness. It's the symptom. You can live your life as dry drunk. You are sick, even though you are not using.

I hadn't thought of it that way Dove.

 ac_umm

 With addictive destructive urges, the 'using' is the 30 percent tip of an iceburg. You can cut that tip (the using) off. But you still have that pesky 70 percent mass under the surface. This is a sort of cbt. The 12 steps are geared for this.  As long as the root remains, the weed is GONNA grow. It's a matter of time/circumstance/opportunity.

[RW]

You're talking about recovery.  What of those who have never offended?

 The offending isn't the illness. It's the symptom. You can live your life as dry drunk. You are sick, even though you are not using.

Which is why they should get treatment.