The Great Abortion Debate

[Romero]

I have no problem explaining why I see a female doctor.  Thanks for asking!



It's not like one doctor is seeing all these women Ro.  



I can understand the need for such places prior to health care changes in the U.S. but not so much in Canada, a country with universal healthcare.  



It's okay to say you don't know the answer rather than making one up eh.

I've explained what the answer is. There's an obvious need for PP's services. Millions of women have millions of reasons why. If there's a provider, then there must be a demand. Just like health clinics, sports clinics, going to the ER instead of the doctor... why single out only Planned Parenthood?



There are 68 Planned Parenthood affiliates here in Canada. By population, that's comparable to the US. Gee, why do people need them if they can just see a doctor? Because they need to. It's no big mystery or conspiracy.

[Wulf]

Just so you are aware, a male doctor delivered both my children.  I just had a visit with a male gynocologist and I found him to be lovely.  I find it easier to talk to a woman and that is my own personal preference.  Some women feel differently.



Ro, I understand your point and the hours of operation, etc, make sense but when it comes to women's reasons for using PPs over their GPs, you are talking out your ass.  If you weren't, you would have pasted a link by now.  I think that's what gets women's backs up around here - you speaking on behalf of our gender when you really don't have a clue.

I thought Romero was your gender. If I'm wrong, how come I can see his vagina from here?

[Anonymous]

It's amazing how I've managed to get health care without ever setting foot in planned parenthood.  The only service I ever had there actually wound up making me need a real health care provider to clean up the mess pp made of my uterus. I still have rights, too. I can work, vote, get birth control and other services....all without planned parenthood. Go figure.

How did PP make a mess of your uterus if you never stepped foot in one?  Careful with your words hon.

 Careful with how you read my words?  I think it's pretty clear what I said. I didn't say I never set foot in one. I said it's amazing I received women's health care without ever setting foot in one. Meaning.....I was and am completely able to get health care without planned parenthood. Or income.

Oh I can read.  You said you never stepped foot in one then you said the only service you ever had there required real health care.  Again, how could you have had service provided there without ever stepping into one?  It makes no sense.

So you intend to force the meaning you derived from my statement and thusly tell me what I said and expect me to answer a question based on your interpretation of my words?  No. This question doesn't apply to what I said and I'm going to ignore it if it's asked again. I'm sorry my post confused you.

You contradicted yourself in plain English in the same post.

 Do you understand what I was saying yet?  I'll clarify. I've received health care just fine without planned parenthood.  The one time I did go, I had an iud inserted and a real doctor had to save me from the mess that place made. Better?

[Anonymous]

I have no problem explaining why I see a female doctor.  Thanks for asking!



It's not like one doctor is seeing all these women Ro.  



I can understand the need for such places prior to health care changes in the U.S. but not so much in Canada, a country with universal healthcare.  



It's okay to say you don't know the answer rather than making one up eh.

I've explained what the answer is. There's an obvious need for PP's services. Millions of women have millions of reasons why. If there's a provider, then there must be a demand. Just like health clinics, sports clinics, going to the ER instead of the doctor... why single out only Planned Parenthood?



There are 68 Planned Parenthood affiliates here in Canada. By population, that's comparable to the US. Gee, why do people need them if they can just see a doctor? Because they need to. It's no big mystery or conspiracy.

  There are snuff films and child porn on the deep Web that have several hundred paying viewers a day. I suppose we should fund them with our tax dollars because there is clearly a demand for it.

[RW]

It's amazing how I've managed to get health care without ever setting foot in planned parenthood.  The only service I ever had there actually wound up making me need a real health care provider to clean up the mess pp made of my uterus. I still have rights, too. I can work, vote, get birth control and other services....all without planned parenthood. Go figure.

How did PP make a mess of your uterus if you never stepped foot in one?  Careful with your words hon.

 Careful with how you read my words?  I think it's pretty clear what I said. I didn't say I never set foot in one. I said it's amazing I received women's health care without ever setting foot in one. Meaning.....I was and am completely able to get health care without planned parenthood. Or income.

Oh I can read.  You said you never stepped foot in one then you said the only service you ever had there required real health care.  Again, how could you have had service provided there without ever stepping into one?  It makes no sense.

So you intend to force the meaning you derived from my statement and thusly tell me what I said and expect me to answer a question based on your interpretation of my words?  No. This question doesn't apply to what I said and I'm going to ignore it if it's asked again. I'm sorry my post confused you.

You contradicted yourself in plain English in the same post.

 Do you understand what I was saying yet?  I'll clarify. I've received health care just fine without planned parenthood.  The one time I did go, I had an iud inserted and a real doctor had to save me from the mess that place made. Better?

Yes, we figure you had been there despite your original sentence.

[RW]

I have no problem explaining why I see a female doctor.  Thanks for asking!



It's not like one doctor is seeing all these women Ro.  



I can understand the need for such places prior to health care changes in the U.S. but not so much in Canada, a country with universal healthcare.  



It's okay to say you don't know the answer rather than making one up eh.

I've explained what the answer is. There's an obvious need for PP's services. Millions of women have millions of reasons why. If there's a provider, then there must be a demand. Just like health clinics, sports clinics, going to the ER instead of the doctor... why single out only Planned Parenthood?



There are 68 Planned Parenthood affiliates here in Canada. By population, that's comparable to the US. Gee, why do people need them if they can just see a doctor? Because they need to. It's no big mystery or conspiracy.

  There are snuff films and child porn on the deep Web that have several hundred paying viewers a day. I suppose we should fund them with our tax dollars because there is clearly a demand for it.

Yes because that's comparable.  Planned Parenthood is JUST like snuff films and child porn.



 

[Anonymous]

I have no problem explaining why I see a female doctor.  Thanks for asking!



It's not like one doctor is seeing all these women Ro.  



I can understand the need for such places prior to health care changes in the U.S. but not so much in Canada, a country with universal healthcare.  



It's okay to say you don't know the answer rather than making one up eh.

I've explained what the answer is. There's an obvious need for PP's services. Millions of women have millions of reasons why. If there's a provider, then there must be a demand. Just like health clinics, sports clinics, going to the ER instead of the doctor... why single out only Planned Parenthood?



There are 68 Planned Parenthood affiliates here in Canada. By population, that's comparable to the US. Gee, why do people need them if they can just see a doctor? Because they need to. It's no big mystery or conspiracy.

  There are snuff films and child porn on the deep Web that have several hundred paying viewers a day. I suppose we should fund them with our tax dollars because there is clearly a demand for it.

Yes because that's comparable.  Planned Parenthood is JUST like snuff films and child porn.



 

 we may as well give people all the freedom they want, right?  Why not fund it?  How would you feel about your paycheck partly funding child murder?  Honest question.

[RW]

I have no problem explaining why I see a female doctor.  Thanks for asking!



It's not like one doctor is seeing all these women Ro.  



I can understand the need for such places prior to health care changes in the U.S. but not so much in Canada, a country with universal healthcare.  



It's okay to say you don't know the answer rather than making one up eh.

I've explained what the answer is. There's an obvious need for PP's services. Millions of women have millions of reasons why. If there's a provider, then there must be a demand. Just like health clinics, sports clinics, going to the ER instead of the doctor... why single out only Planned Parenthood?



There are 68 Planned Parenthood affiliates here in Canada. By population, that's comparable to the US. Gee, why do people need them if they can just see a doctor? Because they need to. It's no big mystery or conspiracy.

  There are snuff films and child porn on the deep Web that have several hundred paying viewers a day. I suppose we should fund them with our tax dollars because there is clearly a demand for it.

Yes because that's comparable.  Planned Parenthood is JUST like snuff films and child porn.



 

 we may as well give people all the freedom they want, right?  Why not fund it?  How would you feel about your paycheck partly funding child murder?  Honest question.

If that is an honest question then you need your fool head checked.  And that's an honest answer.

[Anonymous]

I have no problem explaining why I see a female doctor.  Thanks for asking!



It's not like one doctor is seeing all these women Ro.  



I can understand the need for such places prior to health care changes in the U.S. but not so much in Canada, a country with universal healthcare.  



It's okay to say you don't know the answer rather than making one up eh.

I've explained what the answer is. There's an obvious need for PP's services. Millions of women have millions of reasons why. If there's a provider, then there must be a demand. Just like health clinics, sports clinics, going to the ER instead of the doctor... why single out only Planned Parenthood?



There are 68 Planned Parenthood affiliates here in Canada. By population, that's comparable to the US. Gee, why do people need them if they can just see a doctor? Because they need to. It's no big mystery or conspiracy.

  There are snuff films and child porn on the deep Web that have several hundred paying viewers a day. I suppose we should fund them with our tax dollars because there is clearly a demand for it.

Yes because that's comparable.  Planned Parenthood is JUST like snuff films and child porn.



 

 we may as well give people all the freedom they want, right?  Why not fund it?  How would you feel about your paycheck partly funding child murder?  Honest question.

If that is an honest question then you need your fool head checked.  And that's an honest answer.

not really. Many people look at abortion the same horrified way in which most look at child murder. Those people shouldn't be forced to pay for a place that provides services like abortion.

[RW]

People pay for a lot of things in society they don't agree with.

[Anonymous]

It's called system slavery

[cc]

Just a point of interest



Today - New Hampshire defunds Planned Parenthood facilities



Washington Times‎

[RW]

Now what happens if Planned Parenthood is found innocent of the alleged crimes?

[Romero]

Planned Parenthood Was Defunded by Texas: Here's What Congress Can Learn



The number of women served by clinics within the Texas Women's Health Program dropped significantly between Fiscal Years 2011 and 2013, when the funding changes took effect. According to a Texas Health and Human Services Commission study, there was an average 25 percent drop statewide, with two of 11 HHSC regions reporting more than 50 percent drops.



As a result of this change, some Texas patients had trouble finding alternate sources of family planning and women's health, in part because other providers in their area had not previously been providing specialized family planning services and had to first get expensive, time-consuming training in those areas.



"That high quality family planning is very difficult to integrate into primary care without specific programs to do that," Dr. Janet Realini, the chair of the Texas Women's Healthcare Coalition, a coalition of organizations working to assure access to preventive women's care.



Rep. Jim Keffer, a Republican state senator in Texas who worked on the defunding measures, also acknowledged that the state is still working to address lost provider capacity.



"As Planned Parenthood has been going through their spiral here, we have been bolstering what Texas can offer through this other network," Keffer said. "You can't just close it off and wipe your hands of the situation because comprehensive women's health care has to still be provided."



A related issue is that some women might not go to a general practitioner -- even one that introduced family planning into their practice -- because they prefer going to a specialist.



"Some women prefer to go to dedicated family planning providers to get dedicated contraceptive services," said Amanda Stevenson, a researcher at the University of Austin's Texas Policy Evaluation Project working on the impact of excluding Planned Parenthood from the Women's Health Program in Texas.



Stevenson noted a 2013 review from the Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive health policy group, which found that women say they prefer going to specialists for this care because of "the respectful, confidential, affordable and high-quality care they receive from them."



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[RW]

I knew you'd come through for me Ro.