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#30
September 06, 2015, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"A cut or piece of bacon. I guess it's an Aussie or British term?

So, it's a single slice of bacon?



My husband's family is from Holland..



They like bacon and eggs..



And meatball soup.

Renee

#31
September 06, 2015, 09:07:45 PM Last Edit: September 06, 2015, 09:08:36 PM by Renee
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"MSG is naturally occurring and found in foods such as tomatoes, potatoes, mushrooms, Parmesan cheese, etc.



It's been used for over a hundred years in food.


 Gultumatic acid is a naturally occuring protein found in tomatoes, potatoes, etc. and when it cooked it breaks down and becomes glutamate. Adding salt stabilizes the  broken down protein. MSG is not naturally occurring. It is a artificial combination of glutamate and salt.

Renee is our living encyclopedia.

 :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:

Only she's not correct.



Here, a link!  http://www.foodinsight.org/monosodium-glutamate-msg-umami-safe-allergy-health#sthash.Ndh4E2xO.dpbs">http://www.foodinsight.org/monosodium-g ... 4E2xO.dpbs">http://www.foodinsight.org/monosodium-glutamate-msg-umami-safe-allergy-health#sthash.Ndh4E2xO.dpbs


The actual commercial MSG most of us are familiar with is NOT naturally occurring. It is derived and created thru a fermentation process. What you are confusing it with is glumatic acid which is a naturally occurring protein found in vegetables and sea kelp.



http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/its-the-umami-stupid-why-the-truth-about-msg-is-so-easy-to-swallow-180947626/?no-ist">http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-cult ... 26/?no-ist">http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/its-the-umami-stupid-why-the-truth-about-msg-is-so-easy-to-swallow-180947626/?no-ist

">http://faculty.georgetown.edu/sandj/MSG ... Fall05.pdf">
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.

Frood

#32
September 06, 2015, 09:08:19 PM
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"A cut or piece of bacon. I guess it's an Aussie or British term?

So, it's a single slice of bacon?



My husband's family is from Holland..



They like bacon and eggs..



And meatball soup.


yes



Like this.



http://community.diabetes.org/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/7162i022C099BC51AADB7?v=mpbl-1">
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

#33
September 06, 2015, 09:09:43 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"A cut or piece of bacon. I guess it's an Aussie or British term?

So, it's a single slice of bacon?



My husband's family is from Holland..



They like bacon and eggs..



And meatball soup.


yes



Like this.



http://community.diabetes.org/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/7162i022C099BC51AADB7?v=mpbl-1">

It looks the same yet different from the bacon I have bought.

RW

#34
September 06, 2015, 09:10:41 PM
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"MSG is naturally occurring and found in foods such as tomatoes, potatoes, mushrooms, Parmesan cheese, etc.



It's been used for over a hundred years in food.


 Gultumatic acid is a naturally occuring protein found in tomatoes, potatoes, etc. and when it cooked it breaks down and becomes glutamate. Adding salt stabilizes the  broken down protein. MSG is not naturally occurring. It is a artificial combination of glutamate and salt.

Renee is our living encyclopedia.

 :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:

Only she's not correct.



Here, a link!  http://www.foodinsight.org/monosodium-glutamate-msg-umami-safe-allergy-health#sthash.Ndh4E2xO.dpbs">http://www.foodinsight.org/monosodium-g ... 4E2xO.dpbs">http://www.foodinsight.org/monosodium-glutamate-msg-umami-safe-allergy-health#sthash.Ndh4E2xO.dpbs


The actual commercial MSG most of us are familiar with is NOT naturally occurring. It is derived and created thru a fermentation process. What you are confusing it with is glumatic acid which is a naturally occurring protein found in vegetables and sea kelp.



http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/its-the-umami-stupid-why-the-truth-about-msg-is-so-easy-to-swallow-180947626/?no-ist">http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-cult ... 26/?no-ist">http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/its-the-umami-stupid-why-the-truth-about-msg-is-so-easy-to-swallow-180947626/?no-ist

">http://faculty.georgetown.edu/sandj/MSG ... Fall05.pdf">


Your first link supports everything I've said.
Beware of Gaslighters!

Renee

#35
September 07, 2015, 05:32:45 AM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "RW"MSG is naturally occurring and found in foods such as tomatoes, potatoes, mushrooms, Parmesan cheese, etc.



It's been used for over a hundred years in food.


 Gultumatic acid is a naturally occuring protein found in tomatoes, potatoes, etc. and when it cooked it breaks down and becomes glutamate. Adding salt stabilizes the  broken down protein. MSG is not naturally occurring. It is a artificial combination of glutamate and salt.

Renee is our living encyclopedia.

 :smiley_thumbs_up_yellow_ani:

Only she's not correct.



Here, a link!  http://www.foodinsight.org/monosodium-glutamate-msg-umami-safe-allergy-health#sthash.Ndh4E2xO.dpbs">http://www.foodinsight.org/monosodium-g ... 4E2xO.dpbs">http://www.foodinsight.org/monosodium-glutamate-msg-umami-safe-allergy-health#sthash.Ndh4E2xO.dpbs


The actual commercial MSG most of us are familiar with is NOT naturally occurring. It is derived and created thru a fermentation process. What you are confusing it with is glumatic acid which is a naturally occurring protein found in vegetables and sea kelp.



http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/its-the-umami-stupid-why-the-truth-about-msg-is-so-easy-to-swallow-180947626/?no-ist">http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-cult ... 26/?no-ist">http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/its-the-umami-stupid-why-the-truth-about-msg-is-so-easy-to-swallow-180947626/?no-ist

">http://faculty.georgetown.edu/sandj/MSG ... Fall05.pdf">


Your first link supports everything I've said.

You still have to break the glumatic acid down through fermentation to form glutamate and then extract it through dehydration. That doesn't occur naturally; it's an entirely man made and controlled process. Glumatic acid does not become what we know as MSG until it is processed. Look at it this way, in principle it's the same as making whisky. Corn does not become whisky until it fermented (with yeast and a little barley) then heated and strained. It needs to be processed in order to form the alcohol.    



There in lies the problem with MSG. Like moonshine; MSG it affects the body differently when it is in it's processed form.



"Glutamtes that occur naturally in food come intertwined with different chemicals or fiber, which the body is naturally inclined to regulate, explains Amy Cheng Vollmer, professor of biology at Swarthmore College. MSG, however, comes without the natural components of food that help the body regulate glutamic levels. It's like taking an iron supplement versus obtaining iron from spinach or red meat: the iron supplement creates an expressway between the iron and your bloodstream that you wouldn't find in natural iron sources."





Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/its-the-umami-stupid-why-the-truth-about-msg-is-so-easy-to-swallow-180947626/#GH4ErEX5SrSsbPhd.99">http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-cult ... rSsbPhd.99">http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/its-the-umami-stupid-why-the-truth-about-msg-is-so-easy-to-swallow-180947626/#GH4ErEX5SrSsbPhd.99

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In other words, for some people, eating straight MSG dumped on food as a flavor enhancer affects the body more adversely than when it's in it's glumatic acid form. The body cannot regulate the intake fast enough to avoid the side effects that MSG can cause. Why; because it is broken down and separated from the natural elements that are required for the body to absorb it at a proper rate. All I know is that when I eat food with MSG in it my ankles and knuckle joints in my hands swell and I get headaches and it doesn't happen when I eat tomatoes or potatoes.
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.

RW

#36
September 07, 2015, 11:48:55 AM
You just contradicted yourself.  You said foods are rich is glumatic acid yet quote "foods rich is glutamate..."  Glutamate itself is found in foods.  If you don't believe me, read your own quote again.



Glutamate itself is also one of the most prevalent neurotransmitters in the body and is involved in cognitive function and memory.



There is also currently no scientific evidence that supports MSG as being harmful.  Scientists have not been able to replicate issues from MSG in a scientific setting.
Beware of Gaslighters!

Anonymous

#37
September 07, 2015, 11:50:39 AM
This thread is like a science class being taught by Renee and RW.

Frood

#38
September 07, 2015, 11:51:08 AM
Quote from: "RW"You just contradicted yourself.  You said foods are rich is glumatic acid yet quote "foods rich is glutamate..."  Glutamate itself is found in foods.  If you don't believe me, read your own quote again.



Glutamate itself is also one of the most prevalent neurotransmitters in the body and is involved in cognitive function and memory.



There is also currently no scientific evidence that supports MSG as being harmful.  Scientists have not been able to replicate issues from MSG in a scientific setting.


So why must I violently vomit after eating items with added MSG, RW? For real.
Blahhhhhh...

Frood

#39
September 07, 2015, 11:51:50 AM
Quote from: "Fashionista"This thread is like a science class being taught by Renee and RW.


It's weird. I'll give you that.  ac_smile
Blahhhhhh...

RW

#40
September 07, 2015, 11:52:36 AM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "RW"You just contradicted yourself.  You said foods are rich is glumatic acid yet quote "foods rich is glutamate..."  Glutamate itself is found in foods.  If you don't believe me, read your own quote again.



Glutamate itself is also one of the most prevalent neurotransmitters in the body and is involved in cognitive function and memory.



There is also currently no scientific evidence that supports MSG as being harmful.  Scientists have not been able to replicate issues from MSG in a scientific setting.


So why must I violently vomit after eating items with added MSG, RW? For real.

How can I answer that?  I can only report what science says.
Beware of Gaslighters!

RW

#41
September 07, 2015, 11:58:06 AM
For more information: http://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/FoodAdditivesIngredients/ucm328728.htm">http://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPack ... 328728.htm">http://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/FoodAdditivesIngredients/ucm328728.htm
Beware of Gaslighters!

Frood

#42
September 07, 2015, 12:02:05 PM
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "RW"You just contradicted yourself.  You said foods are rich is glumatic acid yet quote "foods rich is glutamate..."  Glutamate itself is found in foods.  If you don't believe me, read your own quote again.



Glutamate itself is also one of the most prevalent neurotransmitters in the body and is involved in cognitive function and memory.



There is also currently no scientific evidence that supports MSG as being harmful.  Scientists have not been able to replicate issues from MSG in a scientific setting.


So why must I violently vomit after eating items with added MSG, RW? For real.

How can I answer that?  I can only report what science says.


Science can say a lot yet little on any given subject.



Have you ever investigated the links between Multiple Sclerosis and Glutamate Blockers, RW?
Blahhhhhh...

RW

#43
September 07, 2015, 12:04:24 PM
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "RW"
Quote from: "Dinky Dianna"
Quote from: "RW"You just contradicted yourself.  You said foods are rich is glumatic acid yet quote "foods rich is glutamate..."  Glutamate itself is found in foods.  If you don't believe me, read your own quote again.



Glutamate itself is also one of the most prevalent neurotransmitters in the body and is involved in cognitive function and memory.



There is also currently no scientific evidence that supports MSG as being harmful.  Scientists have not been able to replicate issues from MSG in a scientific setting.


So why must I violently vomit after eating items with added MSG, RW? For real.

How can I answer that?  I can only report what science says.


Science can say a lot yet little on any given subject.



Have you ever investigated the links between Multiple Sclerosis and Glutamate Blockers, RW?

Can't say I have.  I'll read up on it right now.
Beware of Gaslighters!

RW

#44
September 07, 2015, 12:16:38 PM
Interesting but lacking in a concrete connection to MS itself.
Beware of Gaslighters!
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